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| 16:14:50 Nov 7th 12  - Mr. Shinsei: I was unable to see the other one, so I made this one :/ Max lv1 - (first built - also a wall city) Total: 400 
 Max lv2 - (size after first built) Total: 6,400 
 Max lv3 - (square) Total: 14,400 
 Max lv4 - (first circle) Total: 25,600   Max lv5 (2nd circle) Total: 40,000 Max lv6 (3rd circle, first compact outer edge) Total: 57,600   Max lv7 Total: 78,400 
 Max lvl 8 Total: 90,000 
 Can also be found at: http://cloud.visual-utopia.com/images/hum#.gif (Replace # with 1-8) http://cloud.visual-utopia.com/images/orc#.gif (Replace # with 1-8)  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 17:26:19 Nov 7th 12  - al (Mr. Flexible): As an addendum to that, perfect production ratios: 
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| 00:45:31 Jan 3rd 13  - Dakarta (Prince Dakarta): I understand these tables.. However, that leaves them unprotected. Is there a table somewhere, or has someone figured out, the perfect production ration with say, 2k GTs and up?  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 00:51:32 Jan 3rd 13  - heroix (Mr. Davy Jones): Well it's only simple math left to calculate production with other buildings... homes = total_buildings / 6 mines/farms/lumbermills = homes * 5  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 01:18:35 Jan 3rd 13  - Dakarta (Duke Dakata): Okay, for example:  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 01:39:16 Jan 3rd 13  - Yukan (Mr. Grandline): Does this work for you? (Personally I don't like production towns under 25,600 in size) Guard/Magic Towers provide work for 5 (2000=400 homes) peasants each, so they are included Normal Production Cities City Size:   6,400  -   1,067 Homes  -   3,333 Mines/Mills/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers  -   2,400 Homes  - 10,000 Mines/Mills/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 25,600  -   4,267 Homes  - 19,333 Mines/Mills/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 40,000  -   6,667 Homes  - 31,333 Mines/Mills/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 57,600  -   9,600 Homes  - 46,000 Mines/Mills/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 78,400  - 13,067 Homes  - 63,333 Mines/Mills/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 90,000  - 15,000 Homes  - 73,000 Mines/Mills/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers Halflings (Farms)/Dwarves (Mines) City Size:   6,400  -   1,175 Homes  -   3,225 Mines/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers  -   2,723 Homes  -   9,677 Mines/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 25,600  -   4,891 Homes  - 18,709 Mines/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 40,000  -   7,678 Homes  - 30,322 Mines/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 57,600  - 11,084 Homes  - 44,516 Mines/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 78,400  - 15,110 Homes  - 61,290 Mines/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers City Size: 90,000  - 17,355 Homes  - 70,645 Mines/Farms  -   2,000 Guard Towers Did this quickly, so I hope these came out all right :|  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 02:03:35 Jan 3rd 13  - Dakarta (Duke Dakata): Yeah, that seems to work out. Thanks.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 01:56:11 Jan 4th 13  - Yukan (Mr. Grandline): Thought I may as well add this since it has something to do with city sizes... ![]() Pretty sure about this* When placing (for example...) a 90k city, the squares from when you do ctrl + a shows if anything is in the way. In this picture, Brook and Thunderbolt were not built with any mountains/forests/water in the way, so they will be 90k cities. Shusui on the other hand had a small bit of the square going into the water, which caused it to be a 78,400 city :[ I usually use paint to decide where I'm placing my cities at the beginning for 90kers.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 22:36:21 Dec 19th 15  - AwkwardNoah (Mr. Noah Mediati II): can you make a army size one?  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 20:33:43 Dec 20th 15  - shyers (Mr. Shyerclause): Thx for this btw  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 21:58:38 Dec 23rd 15  - Mr. Richard Childs: Yukan, the ctrl + a shows the picture size. Since a 90ker is slighly smaller than the box (especially in the corners) it is actually possible to build a 90ker if the box is overlapping terrain. Just not by enough and if you wanna be safe you should stick with the box ;)  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 02:55:05 Apr 16th 16  - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Jesus Left Toe): I use this guide far too much for it to fall off the guide pages, soooo;  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 20:13:12 Jun 8th 16  - Cloutier (Master Cloutier XXX): do remember some races can get 90k if there in trees or mines  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 03:30:05 Dec 31st 16  - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Heyzeus): Max lv1 - (first built - also a wall city) Total: 400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum1.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc1.gif Max lv2 - (size after first built) Total: 6,400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum2.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc2.gif Max lv3 - (square) Total: 14,400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum3.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc3.gif Max lv4 - (first circle) Total: 25,600 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum4.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc4.gif Max lv5 (2nd circle) Total: 40,000 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum5.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc5.gif Max lv6 (3rd circle, first compact outer edge) Total: 57,600 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum6.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc6.gif Max lv7 Total: 78,400 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum7.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc7.gif Max lvl 8 Total: 90,000 http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum8.gif http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc8.gif Can also be found at: http://visual-utopia.com/images/hum#.gif (Replace # with 1-8) http://visual-utopia.com/images/orc#.gif (Replace # with 1-8)  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 07:12:03 Dec 31st 16  - Strawberry (Ms. Bittersweet): Lvl     Max Build     Homes     Production     Size Code 1        400                 67            333	                S1 (small 1)  2        6400              1067         5333               S2 (small 2) 3       14400             2400	12000              B1 (box 1) 4       25600             4267        21333              R1 (rounded box 1) 5       40000             6667        33333              R2	(rounded box 2) 6       57600             9600        48000              C1	(circle 1) 7	78400		13067	65333		C2	(circle 2) 8	90000		15000	75000		W1	(walled 1) 9 	200000		33333	166667		W2 (walled 2) As long as you know the number of homes you need to build for a city, that is sufficient, you can make any changes or tweaks all you want, for example you want extra homes for training etc. I came up with sort of a size code so that the sizes can easily be remembered, lets say eventhough a 90k elf city looks like an S2, its should still be called a W1 because its based on size and not appearance. So its like "Build an R2 blocker near Disneyland", or "JLT build a C1 forward magic city", something like that.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 07:14:08 Dec 31st 16  - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Heyzeus): Yeah, I was trying to put the images back in. Got distracted. Couldn't remember how, quit.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 08:06:25 Dec 31st 16  - Ivanho (Mr. Ivanho The Ocro Imperor): Update: Max lv1 - (first built - also a wall city) Total: 400 
 Max lv2 - (size after first built) Total: 6,400 
 Max lv3 - (square) Total: 14,400 
 Max lv4 - (first circle) Total: 25,600 
 Max lv5 (2nd circle) Total: 40,000 
 Max lv6 (3rd circle, first compact outer edge) Total: 57,600 
 Max lv7 Total: 78,400 
 Max lvl 8 Total: 90,000 
 This is an edited version from JLT :) Please let me know if you still can't see these pics.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 22:19:03 Sep 25th 19  - Dakarta (Lord Dacarta): I'm baaaaack. Anywho.. Can someone figure out what the limit is to max out a city? Like for a 25.6k city, at X number of buildings, I can put into motion the completion of the city.  I think I remember for a 90k building: once 30k buildings are built, you can start the construction of 60k? So, that'd be 33%. I just want to be sure that's what it is.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 22:29:40 Sep 25th 19  - Schepp (Doctor Schepp): Yes you are remembering correctly  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 22:56:14 Sep 25th 19  - Percy (Sir Percy): You can build into a city double what is currently built plus 100. You can verify this on a new city built, where with 1 GT you can build 102 buildings. So if you build a 25.6k up to 8,500 buildings, you can then land drop the last 17,100 all at once.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 03:36:01 Sep 26th 19  - HorusPanic (Sir Horus LXIX): welcome back dakarta great to see you!  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 05:49:08 Sep 26th 19  - Exalted Trickster Salamon: Dont make it more complicated then it has to be :) if you are into dropping cities, just remember build 1/3 of the max amount drop the other 2/3 later  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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