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Abydos Low Blow
05:22:57 May 24th 07 - Sir Wolf Ruga:

Well, it seems when war is at it's peak, everyone starts pulling really low blows. I'm sure half of you will sit here and try to tell me this is okay, and while it's not like they were going against the generally accepted rules, Falazar makes himself look much worse, which is always worth reading about, right? This story starts out with me creating an armory near Abydos cities and prepping on one of their other cities.

Sir Falazar [Abydos] (5/23/2007 4:49:50 PM) GOOD BAD
Whatcha doing Wulf?

I have peace with you, but if you attack my friend peace is off in teh west as well and I will take all those cities.... talk with Durza....


As you can see, Falazar blatantly tells me that there is no current aggression towards the two KDs. I banter back and forth with him for awhile, mainly about LDK and Abydos chickening out. I talk to Durza and Karac, and both seem pretty clueless.


You (5/23/2007 11:41:07 PM)
I'm not believing for a second that NAPing with BoW isn't just a ploy to get us off your asses now that LDK is here. Can't handle the heat, or what? Do you really think I'm that stupid?
Sir Falazar [Abydos] (5/24/2007 1:58:31 AM) GOOD BAD
Oh, thats what you think :}

No, not that either....
You (5/24/2007 2:44:06 AM)
Then you need to leave Dorian Empire alone too.


I see no real reason to keep prepping on their city, even though it's completely undefended SEVEN HOURS LATER and I have a 100% chance. Abydos says there is peace, and I'm not sure why they wouldn't leave Dorian Empire alone if they would us, seeing as how D.E probably has way more fight in them then BoW does and both KDs are under attack by the unhonorable LDK. Apperently I am mistaken.


Sir Falazar [Abydos] (5/24/2007 2:54:04 AM) GOOD BAD
Uhm, were not really bargaining with you, we were just considering peacing you.... we may now peace them instead... dunno...


Of course, this he says AFTER I have stopped prepping and have moved my army in the direction of LDK. In fact, by now, I'm a tick or two off, and in a nearby city, Carp and someone else (Don't remember their name right now) both have armies heading towards me.

You (5/24/2007 2:56:05 AM) Well, I have no problem turning my army around...


So I do just that, and I boost myself ahead with a bonus turn to get closer. Unfortunately, I am not quiet close enough, and Carps troops make it to the city a tick after me. Boom, they attack, my troops die.

03:40:16: New Menz Plx lost a battle against Crocodiles from Mr. Carp. We lost 1 Swordsmen, 654 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.


So, Abydos, Falazar, anyone from that side want to explain to me what the *beep* that was all about? I prep on a city, you tell me we have peace, and when I withdraw, you change your mind?

The feelings this leaves me with is akin to that of fondling chewed gum on the subway. Just, bleh.


05:43:13 May 24th 07 - Mr. Zerocool The Berseker:

hey, wolf, havent you learned anything yet?? falazar is a *beep*.  he never can be trusted. he talks as if you are an ally then when you turn around he hits you.  hes a stupid unhonorabel coward.


05:48:53 May 24th 07 - Sir Fizban:

Only one way to deal with him. Go bump him off the HoH listing.


05:50:11 May 24th 07 - Mr. Jetleeomg:

You prepped on their city even after he told you that he had peace. By saying he had peace it was a clever move - because its not full blown set in tone diplomatic relations, but it was enough to stop you from attacking.
Basically you *beep*ed it and are having a cry here about losing 600 hammers. Go back to mantrax.


06:21:16 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Well lets see, at any time did I or anyone come after YOU?  or say we were warring YOU, or anything in fact?  No, you turned around and came back and prepped on the city.... Carp defended it... what did you expect?

Nothing to do with me, I was peaceful with you, and even talked with your leader, which it didnt look like you did.  I let someone else run free with an agreed peace, and dealt honorably with him... You said a whole bunch of weird stuff that I didnt even understand, and I didnt make any aggressive move toward you.  You are very confusing.

I never changed my mind, your leader sent the message sayign he did not want to Nap us... even then I sent no troops your way, so sorry man...


06:21:35 May 24th 07 - Sir Wolf Ruga:

Jetlee, if you had been literate or intelligent enough to read the entire post through, which I can tell you were too stupid to do so, the very first paragraph. Try reading it, and then come flame me, dip*beep*. Thank you. :)

For the record, I had been prepping on the city before he said anything about peace, another *beep*ic misunderstanding on the action hero wanna-bes part. In fact, this entire thread wasn't even about losing six hundred hammer throwers. Please, *beep*s and flamers alike, read the post before you comment. You'll stop yourself from looking worse.


06:23:56 May 24th 07 - Sir Wolf Ruga:

Yes, Falazar, you did. After I started leaving, Carp and his friend sent out an X and a double X in my direction. The second I left the city and therefore, reset the prep, you changed your mind. Am I going to end up repeating myself through this entire thread?


06:25:01 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Uhm yeah Two armies went to his city, amazing... after you went back to attack it, funny that :}

You used a bonus turn to try and attack him, he used two to get there to defend...hmmm odd huh...


06:26:14 May 24th 07 - Mr. Shyers The Return:

can't we all just get along, i mean for real, you just complain and complain! we need to work together if we are going to get rid of the real threat, Zeon... oh wait, nevermind... i'll avenge you WoF!!! wait i gotta build and army first, hold on!


06:26:59 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Heres a funny snapshot of some of what he sent me in PM

You (5/23/2007 10:57:16 PM)
I never said we had a Nap, reread them.

I said I was peaceful with Durza, and then was checking to see if our leaders wanted to nap, your leader declined recently, so dont blame me, I was nice to Durza and others.

You shouldnt get so upset... if I had wanted to attack, I just would have, was tryign to help you guys out some though.....


FORWARD BELOW:

Greetings sir falazar,

I have heard of your offers to my kd mates of peace, we will regretfully have to decline. Apparently some information was communicated wrongly, we are in fact MAPd with PHI not NAPd, ergo it would be unhonorable to break that. It happened to us this era early on, and we saw the effects of it, we will never stoop to that level of low. So, once again, sorry, but we must decline. If you have any questions, please feel free to message myself, Drakos, or Durza. Thank you, and have a wonderful age.

The Wolflord
You (5/23/2007 3:01:29 PM)
ok, thanks for the heads up :} sorry were on wrong side with you guys...
Wolflord Karac [BoW] (5/23/2007 3:02:07 PM) GOOD BAD
It is ok, its the game, nothing personal. You will always be a friend to BoW.
You (5/23/2007 3:05:09 PM)
Thnks :} Had been not attacking Durza and all west guys, to let them live...
Sir Wolf Ruga [BoW] (5/23/2007 11:16:29 PM) GOOD BAD
Oh, please, you're not going to trick me.
You (5/23/2007 11:23:42 PM)
trick you what? talk with your leader!!!


06:27:03 May 24th 07 - Duke Dork:

Actually, there sin't anything wrong with what he did...  He either wanted peace with your kingdom or did some sheity talk with you to give more time to the rest of the kingdom to prepare. If he really wanted peace your leader didn't, and than it would be weird if Abydos wouldn't attack you seeing as it then should mean... war. And if he just gave you the sheitty talks you bought it. Which only proves it works.

Edit: Those PM's puts you in a rather tough situation to prove it otherwise...


06:27:29 May 24th 07 - Sir Wolf Ruga:

Uh, no, Falazar. It might come as a surprise to you, but the second you start moving the armies, THEY'RE VISIBLE.

So, I know how many people Falazar has playing as him. Which one are you? Or is it true that you never sleep and live on coffee and energy bars?


06:28:37 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

I herby move for a manditory IQ test or at least a basic check on the level of Whiney-ness exhibited in this game... For each whining complaing or misrepresentation of someone else's words a player should get docked a days gold....
What say ye masses?


06:29:11 May 24th 07 - Sir Wolf Ruga:

Dork, again, as I have told the rest of the retards who seem to be incapable of reading complete sentences, read the first paragraph of the first post and then post again. Thank you for your time.


06:31:18 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Uhm, what? Again?
Uhm I think the armies were visible for quite a while as they came across the map... but they wertn even my armies, so I dont know what you mean?!?

How many people do I have playing me then?  You can ask most anyone, I am an incurable insomniak, awake at all bloody hours of the night and day, on IM always as well, when needed. Dont drink coffee, dont like... nor energy bars... take breaks for sex, but had to take a break from sex yesterday to move my army.. not good, she was unhappy.


06:33:32 May 24th 07 - Sir Wolf Ruga:

Falazar has basically mixed up Wolflord Karac and my own PMs. I would copy and paste my entire mail thing of my and Falazars conversation, but it is extremely long.

For the record, this first part that Falazar posted,

"You (5/23/2007 10:57:16 PM) I never said we had a Nap, reread them.

I said I was peaceful with Durza, and then was checking to see if our leaders wanted to nap, your leader declined recently, so dont blame me, I was nice to Durza and others.

You shouldnt get so upset... if I had wanted to attack, I just would have, was tryign to help you guys out some though....."

This was never sent. It's a pretty bad lie. The only thing right there that is actually true is the very last line, and then, only half of it, in reference to an armory I had placed near Falazar regarding peace. "If I wanted to attack you, don't you think I would have killed the city already?"

He said something similiar to that, only with worse grammar and spelling. I'm assuming that would be the foreign Falazar that wrote that one.

Falazar, maybe you should get all your users together at once and have everyone explain their part of the situation. Hard to make an argument when you're clueless, yes?


06:33:32 May 24th 07 - Mr. Shyers The Return:

look, i said it once and i'll say it again, until there is a formal agreemnet, don't go by words, it's been time tested and mother approved! keep your armies there and then if you really have to, just say later, "look sorry i took that city but, i'll give it back, no harm no foul, and look i even made it better but building _____ (hint :fill in the blank) besides, we all know Ady is evil so you just gonna go with it.


06:33:34 May 24th 07 - Wolflord Karac:

Ok, thats enough. Peace there is not between BoW and Abydos. Enough said. We are allied with PHI, and would not do that to them, this has been said in BoWs forum enough that everyone should know. MOD please just delete this thread.


06:36:29 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Uhm, ok, reread again.... I tried to be nice to you, it was a mistake, I'm sorry... you tried to attack one of our guys... he killed you.... again, I am sorry. 

I will try and refrain from being nice to you in the future.... remind if a slip and dont immediatly take your cities please...  *smiles*


06:37:47 May 24th 07 - Sir Wolf Ruga:

@ Shyers: wasn't really an option. It was either I sat there in indecision as Carps armies approached, I left, or I attacked. I attacked, I risked breaking a possible NAP. If I had waited, the armies would have gathered and been able to defend the place. So I chose to leave and see how things played out, withdrew the army in LDKs direction. I can see I made a bad call in believeing Falazars words.

@ Dork: Read it a few more times. I clearly state that what Falazar has done is not "going against the generally accepted rules".

@ Falazar: The city that carps army came from was maybe, three, four clicks away? Anyways, I'm sorry I went against the general opinion of the community and expected you to keep your word. I like to believe in giving everyone a chance though.


06:39:27 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Can you forward him the same message please though so he wont say Im "tricking" him again... annoying...   


06:41:14 May 24th 07 - Wolflord Karac:

Yo falazar, Zeta is open, maybe you should set up over there? Isnt that what you told our members in the beginning? Yeah, could see how you are aiming to be nice. Wow. Thanks for the courtesy.

 

BoW members, do not post anymore in this thread, we do not need to lower ourselves to the pettiness, stupidness, arrogance and overall bad gameplay that is starting to creep into this thread. *Smiles*


06:43:46 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

That was a low blow Karac.... I told him that cause he had just died... many dont want to restart in Fantasia after they die.. it kind of sucks... I have been cordial to all of you guys, and talked decently to many even as we fought.


06:49:19 May 24th 07 - Mr. Shyers The Return:

ok, didn't i just explain this? Aby is evil, don't believe them... unless you can, but thats another story.... true be told, this is for everyone, no formal nap means no nap.... these things are just not set up this way, and if they are they are from leader to leader, not player to player.....but Wolf, i like you, always have had a thing for BoW might be the whole doggie style thing but it might be Drakos saving my behind once, but i'm just trying to stop all these fires about un-napped naps and the ways naps are napped cuz it's un-nappy


06:50:51 May 24th 07 - Mr. Brizencorbin:

Wow, even im confused now,... and im not even in Fant. lol

Truely, it is unfortunat that when two men throw there fists around, someone allways gets hurt.


06:52:01 May 24th 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

Abydos is evil
Legacy is evil
Baccus Monk is evil
Phi is evil

who's next?


06:53:24 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Falazar is Supreme Evil!  .. look...*points*  It says so right here!


07:00:13 May 24th 07 - Mr. Stormvenz:

<Abydos is evil
Legacy is evil
Baccus Monk is evil
Phi is evil

who's next?>

 

Oh come on man, when you talk evil you have to throw carnage in there, after all we are the ones throwing our men across the river in catapults and having secret rituals involving Efrandor, several dead chickens, and a very randy pigmy monkey^^

 

Come here you naughty monkey......


07:00:25 May 24th 07 - Mr. Shyers The Return:

oh oh oh can't DB be Evil....i was the king of Evil after all.


08:10:34 May 24th 07 - Lord Weirdgrivi The Diplomat:

Wolflord Karac

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5/24/2007 8:41:14 AM

Yo falazar, Zeta is open, maybe you should set up over there? Isnt that what you told our members in the beginning? Yeah, could see how you are aiming to be nice. Wow. Thanks for the courtesy.

 

BoW members, do not post anymore in this thread, we do not need to lower ourselves to the pettiness, stupidness, arrogance and overall bad gameplay that is starting to creep into this thread. *Smiles*

Sir Falazar

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5/24/2007 8:43:46 AM
That was a low blow Karac.... I told him that cause he had just died... many dont want to restart in Fantasia after they die.. it kind of sucks... I have been cordial to all of you guys, and talked decently to many even as we fought.

 

Well said Karac. And Falazar, I fear your cordiality, trying to full us out again, huh?

You're not stupid but neither are we.


08:48:21 May 24th 07 - Mr. Smuff With A Shemale:

God Abydos (well only Falazr really). you have managed to piss off the majority of Fant this era. good job :)

and it still amazes me that falazar still like to spead bs around the place. 


09:34:28 May 24th 07 - Ms. Natalia:

how have we done that???? I'm confused you all attacked us, where we supposed to sit there and take it???

and we're no evil, we are just your gods and goddesses.

lol


11:26:52 May 24th 07 - Mr. Supercalifragilistic:

lmao, this thread made my day.


11:48:57 May 24th 07 - Lord Oya:

im still waiting for BoW to talk to a leader eh (ie: me/osiris).... you may have made peace with falazar but that constitutes as peace with the whole of abydos? yes once again we did something evil :D hurrah for us


14:48:55 May 24th 07 - Ms. Natalia:

i didn't see that as evil, just teaching them a lesson, when Falazar let me run the other era did i come back and annoy him, no. so what do you expect to happen?


15:01:38 May 24th 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

These flaming threads are incredibly stupid, though they can be intresting to read.
Let it go.


15:11:27 May 24th 07 - Mr. Killstone The Destroyer:

um jsut curious but why is phi evil?


15:17:45 May 24th 07 - Mr. Smuff With A Shemale:

because we are flaming them for falazars mistakes. flames against abydos = phi evil

 


15:19:50 May 24th 07 - Mr. Killstone The Destroyer:

ok makes no sense at all but if thats the way they want to paly then ill take it


15:21:49 May 24th 07 - Mr. Bertrand IN Shame:

*deep sigh*


15:24:06 May 24th 07 - Wolflord Karac:

We made no peace with Falazar. That statement is completely falacious Oya.


15:45:02 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Falazar's Mistake?

*geez, you guys are sad*

Weird:  Well said Karac. And Falazar, I fear your cordiality, trying to full us out again, huh?
You're not stupid but neither are we.

What are you trying to say?  That because you werent party to any talks you think you know what your talking about?  Or that you just dont like me cause I did well and you were fighting against me?  Do I jump in your threads and say I hate you and your "not nice" or anything like that?  This is really pathetic.  In fact I find a lot of members reaction in this game really sad... and its not the "Whole" fantasia, that doesnt like me, wonderful exagerations.

I tried to create a peace with a much smaller kingdom than us, for this I get flamed?  I mean really, if I had prepped all my armies for war, then lied and tried to make peace so I could invade them or something I would understand, but this is just stupid.  Anytime anyone posts anything around here, everyone else just jumps in and goes, "Yeah, their awful!" no matter what it is, no matter what happened or anything... does noone see this as sad?

Durza, would you like to post anything?
Mr Nice,  Laxitup,  I have been decent and talked the same with all of these people with no problems...

Olaf, Sir Jadbalja and others that we attacked and killed I ahve still talked with and been nice to.

It doesnt seem like anyone around here can seperate your feeling from you fighting, so just start massive flame wars to vent your rage.


15:49:41 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

Thats cause he only posts snippets.. I had peace with Durza, and the western area, and it was goign well, so I had him ask BoW guys, and I passed us my chain (first) if we wanted to extend that to a full NaP.    It was declined, nicely and Politely by Karac, as was his due, due to other naps.
   The one member that was flaming and complaining to me, was Wolf Ruga.   I told him a few times to talk with his leaders.  It didnt look like he did, and kept getting himself confused.... He wanted us to Nap Dorians before we could Nap him, and then said we had to get LDK to stop attacking BoW before we could Nap him.  I told him I couldnt do any of those things, was confused why he was hagglign like this in his fashion, and told him to talk with his leaders.  \
He then said the only reason we were trying to Nap was cause LDK was gonna kill us.   It started wandering all of the board after that so I just treid to ignore it all, told him he was getting mixed up, and to talk with his leaders.
  I was polite with him, and didnt misrepresent mysekf in any way.  I spoke the truth.


16:27:43 May 24th 07 - Ms. Natalia:

Falazar breath deeply and think of nice carm things, you got so worked up you made a typo!!!!

"didnt misrepresent mysekf in any way"


16:30:57 May 24th 07 - Mr. Killstone The Destroyer:

um think of carm things i think you need to calm down too you made a typo too!


16:37:51 May 24th 07 - Lord Oya:

then if there is no peace, *beep*!! sigh.... you people really get on my nerves sometimes


16:44:33 May 24th 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

Calm down Oya, deep breaths =)


16:45:54 May 24th 07 - Sir Falazar:

I type to fast sometimes... don't bother correcting often :}

Generally dont get upset, am Happy Guy (hence too many smileys) but you can push to far.


17:35:59 May 24th 07 - Mr. Killstone The Destroyer:

i joke alot hence alll the =Ps =D

i dont correct my self often either


18:08:03 May 24th 07 - General Ezatious:

Keel Abydos scum!!! Osiris is a goth


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