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Calling out Heaven Kingdom
04:07:48 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Alexandr Mykolayiv:

                     

Hello everyone.

 

I am new at this game, so please donít roast me if I make a not accurate statement.

 

My buddy who is a more experienced gamer told me to start off in a lesser world if I wanted to learn how to play.  He also told me to join a small kingdom, so I chose one called Lithuania (I donít know how to spell the full name). Lithuania has a Non-aggression pact with a much larger kingdom by the name of Predators.

 

Iím gonna shoot to the point here: I keep getting harassed by a much larger kingdom called Heaven, particularly one man in heaven, Mr. Adanos.  I have been killed by him three times now, and I have no other option but to start off on ďStarta.Ē Now, I am not aware of the political status of Heaven Kingdom, but in the rankings, Heaven is the second most powerful nation, so why do they harass Lithuania Kingdom, which has currently only one active player (me).  I am aware this is a combat based game, so why are the world of Startaís two most powerful countries at a Non-aggression pact with each other?

 

I donít mean to make this public and call you out personally, Mr. Adanos, but could I just ask you to lay off for a while I try to learn and playÖor at least allow me time to build up my defensives. I am pretty much on the opposite side of the world from your nation, and I really donít care about Heaven Kingdom or attacking it for that much. Honestly, I would leave if I could, but it appears I am stuck on this world, so could we try and solve this?

 

Thank you all for hearing me.

AM


04:12:06 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Honestly, as long as your a member of LDK your a target for us and won't be able to restart on any other world :S Whichever world your kingdom is on, that's the world you have to restart on. If you want to restart on another one you'll have to leave LDK.


04:27:45 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Alexandr Mykolayiv:

Save for that, who else are you fighting other than Lithuania Kingdom.

Quite frankly, I don't want to leave, I don't know how to leave, and I don't want to go through that application thing again.

If you're going to make this hard for me, I can just find another game to play...


04:39:48 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Well Mr. Alexandr for one by leaving the game your giving them kinda what they want; satisfaction of killing lower lvl players. And its not hard to leave you just press the kingdom Icon on the index bar in the upper right hand corner and scroll down to leave kd. And honestly if your the only active member then you need a new kd. If you want ill let you into The Devastators. Here we can help with the game. Building cities,Sciences,defenses, blockers etc whatever you need.


04:49:42 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Alexandr Mykolayiv:

Thanks man, but the thing about it is that they say that they are a good nation, and will be back in full force next yeara. I don't know, this is really confusing. I still don't understand why the largest nations are at peace with each other in a war game...


04:51:12 Feb 19th 09 - Demonslayer John Berkeley:

Visual Utopia is changing from a game of war to a game of peace...people find it more fun to farm and attack the weak because they cannot do anything else good.


04:53:44 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

well thats the key to survival really. Thats what really everyone does. Rome and GOTF are NAPed here on Nirvana. Im betting RET is NAPd with a few top kds on Fant. Its a continuis thing and if you plan to survive you should atleast NAP your kd with atleast 1 top kd...If you want i can send you a guide made by sloth a while ago that can possibly put you on even terms with everyone. It will give you all the info of sciences, building all that.


04:54:47 Feb 19th 09 - Duke Herodotus of Halicarnassus:

Mr Alexander if you leave Lithuania this era and join Mr Justin you can learn the game basics and become a better player.  Next era you can rejoin  Lithuania as a better player, when they are more active and can take advantage of the skills you will gain.  As for your other question, I have no comment.


05:06:05 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

The two most powerful kingdoms are NAPed because they have bigger problems than each other from other worlds.... Heaven has been in constant war without a single moment of peace right from OOP until now so don't even try to insult us Deallus. Heaven's had more action than about any kingdom in any world right now.


05:10:56 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Everyone has problems from other worlds. Right now my kd of 3 ppl are taking on Preds and BoW combined and have been doing so since OOP maybe a day or 2 after and my guys are doing a great job of holding. That was after RET kicked mine and phoenixs butts when we were on Fant in Fraternity(<3 Fraternity) which was another OOP war. Your not the only ones with problems so its not necessary to be a di(k.


05:19:22 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

I'm not trying to be a di(k, I'm just responding to Deallus.

"people find it more fun to farm and attack the weak because they cannot do anything else good."

I assume that was aimed at Heaven. We attacked LDK core which was right next to ours, they attacked back, they lost... Any city we see of their's is fair game. That's the way VU works.


05:21:10 Feb 19th 09 - Demonslayer John Berkeley:

I don't believe I was insulting anyone.  You must be thinking that I am insulting you so you obviously must have been read my statement wrong.  I directed that statement at no one, but you reacted in a manner that suggested you follow those ways...otherwise there would have been "lols" or "i liek farming" or w/e...your words not mine.  Let's not play the "Who can be a better *beep* on VU" game because you will lose.


05:21:54 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Charleys statement is aimed at the entire VU world actually cuz we are all kinda like that no matter what even if we dont knwo we are doing it.


05:29:40 Feb 19th 09 - Demonslayer John Berkeley:

Everyone loves farming...jeez.  Nub bashing is like an international pastime.


05:30:02 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Sorry Deallus, I assumed your comment was posted on topic rather than being useless sp@m.(Which I agree with you, but this thread wasn't posted for arguing about that topic...)

@Alexandr: I understand what your saying and I can sympathize but I hope you can understand where we are coming from :S If you choose to restart, try sending scouts out in lots of directions to start a second city far away from any of our cities. That way we won't be able to see or find you and you can live in peace. We won't be able to attack you while your under protection so your scouts should have no trouble getting away.

Edit: Btw, welcome to VU ;) Everyone's first era is rough(I died like 4+ times in my first era). Just stick with it and ask for advice from experienced players and you'll be pwning Heaven in a few eras ;)


05:32:59 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

And technically you cant get troops without farming unless you plan on plundering with you lifeguards and doing that way which would be hard


05:55:13 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Prewett The Unreliable:

Part of learning to play this game is choosing the kd you apply to carefully. You want the kd to have an experince leader, active players and good team work. You can find out all of this by reading the forum.

After you choose a decent kd to apply to and are accepted the basics are easy to understand. I was never taugth the basic by anyone but read then on the forum. I was taugth war from others.

A tip would be to start as a dwarf. They're pretty easy to play with becuase the whole tree factor is eliminated but their military sucks. Also, I never realy understood farming I find it more profitable to war and train from your plunders.

Sorry for being killed so often but we all went throught it. It doesn't help when you whine.

All Hail Heaven!


06:02:45 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Actually no dwarf is a bad race to start off with. You wanna experience the tree part. As a dwarf you never have to use it and there for will get used to not using it. BAD!!!! Play Human to stary off with. Decent troops, Decent science cost, great incomes, and they get up to 10% off the markets. For example my best bud who was a co-commander in the beginning of TDS was always a dwarf and he was damn good at it because he never needed tree he just got the stone and gold and trained a 500k axie with 100k MUs. When we asked him to switch to human cuz we need him to be more offensive he couldnt do it. We had to teach how to use tree cuz he never knew. So no its best to start off with Human. Plus humans are the best StGers


06:09:22 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

All of your posts so far are totally confusing and a waste of space Justin-.- If you want to help a new player post less about yourself and the kingdoms you've been in and post information that's actually useful.

Ignore Justin's post and go with Prewett's =) Dwarf is the best class to familiarize yourself with the game.

Edit: Why are you posting in this thread anyway?...-.- Deallus was trying to be helpful, your just kinda here.... You should go from here to there*points to a cliff* and leave this thread alone.


06:16:12 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Wow the wanna be bad ass talks to me. Take your own advice and jump off a cliff


06:16:46 Feb 19th 09 - Demonslayer John Berkeley:

Let's try to be...constructive here instead of trying to be asses to others...and actually, I don't think any of my posts were on topic so you argument is kind of just trying to tell Justin to get out ;)  Done with this topic XD  Read the guides forum ffs :p


06:18:56 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Ruby Knight dont like me cuz AoA, RoC, TDS banded together and whiped out the Heaven/Fuzzy alliance in a matter of a few days. he called me and my kd out and we answered and so did 2 other kds.


06:24:40 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

I forgot you were in on that. We lost, so what... Just another war in the many that we've been in. I didn't call your kd out, I called you out. And you never did answer it. It was RoC that got my cities, and AoA that took out most of my armies. You were just another *beep* running his mouth and not doing anything.

I don't like you because your an *beep*. You like to talk like your a big man when in reality your a tiny man with a tiny thingy and an overgrown head.


06:28:09 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Mr. Ruby Knight

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2/18/2009 9:24:40 PM
I forgot you were in on that. We lost, so what... Just another war in the many that we've been in. I didn't call your kd out, I called you out. And you never did answer it. It was RoC that got my cities, and AoA that took out most of my armies. You were just another *beep* running his mouth and not doing anything.

I don't like you because your an *beep*. You like to talk like your a big man when in reality your a tiny man with a tiny thingy and an overgrown head.


Now read what i put in red and think about it to yourself for a sec and see if that makes you a hypocrite and if you cant tell well i feel sorry for you. Now no TDS owned a few good 90kers. and my 26k nazzies were running around your core merging with my TEAM MATES so the cost of my nazzies didnt increase. Wars are a team effort and since AoA, RoC and TDS were allied and all three of us were right outside your core, well we all attacked and had fun.


06:31:02 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Took me a sec but I think I get your hypocrite comment. You just proved how immature you really are =) If it makes you less "happy" replace head with mouth.

AoA and RoC did the hard work. My final words on the subject. Shut up and find another thread to troll.


06:33:31 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

lol im not even trolling your the one calling me a nub not the other way around. Im enjoying your hypocracy keep going please. Ill pop some popcorn and put on 3D glasses and enjoy the show. I tried to give him advice but instead you critized me and then you start calling me a nub saying i run my mouth which i havent. Your the replacement for my previous attitude. Have fun New Justin.


06:39:01 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

3D glasses and popcorn xD Your so stupidly oblivious its pathetic. Quit trolling for a flame war and go find someone else to bother. If you want to talk with me come find me ingame and do your talking there. Just quit it with the immature trash on here.


06:40:44 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Ha read your post again but i doubt it will do any good. Alexandr good luck with your VU experience my offer is always on the table.. New Justin have fun with watever it is you do. I dont wanna know what that is but have fun.


06:46:20 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

"New Justin have fun with watever it is you do. I dont wanna know what that is but have fun."

Seriously xD Your still the same Ghost you were back then. You repeat the same stuff over and over and over. Its pathetic. Come find me ingame. I'm calling you out like I called you out back then. You didn't do anything then and you can't do anything now and you know it. So what are you going to do? Keep flaming me on here? Your flames have never done more than make anyone laugh. So if they are all you have your a failure.


07:06:26 Feb 19th 09 - Demonslayer John Berkeley:

Topic plz


07:18:22 Feb 19th 09 - Duke Herodotus of Halicarnassus:

Alexandr, welcome to VU    :)   (just ignore everything else and have fun) 


07:23:13 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Any chance a moderator would be willing to remove that whole conversation between me and Justin? Looking back, I really shouldn't have said so much in this thread-.-


07:31:18 Feb 19th 09 - Demonslayer John Berkeley:

Wish I could...but not my area of powa :)


09:06:25 Feb 19th 09 - Sir Penguin:

i suck potatoes


09:23:43 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Adanos:

war LDK(Lietuvos didzioji kunigaikstyste) vs Heaven was oop. You naped preds just because they wanted you to continue to att us. So i beat a crap out of LDK beause they were attacking me. And im hunting you because you are at war with Heaven, like i care that you a new player. You even made a city adanosisahomo, and you want me to stop hunting you now? How should i know that you wont attack us from the back when we are focusing on other matters?


10:01:47 Feb 19th 09 - Flame Lord Phoeinx:

do as justin said and join devestators. he and i can teach you what you need to know to get along. i have taught people before and they are still around and doing well =-D   


10:20:57 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Koss:

kingdoms such as heaven need to learn to attack kingdoms that are not 87 times weaker then they are it is annoying to leave protection and instantly get eradicated by some player from a much stronger kingdom


10:43:50 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Adanos:

people like Koss need to learn to read all the thread before posting


12:33:57 Feb 19th 09 - Sir Fords Boner:

Ruby Knight, why must you try and flame everyone?

Justin, next time tell the dwarf guy to have more MUs too. Only 100k with 500k axes, lol.

Alexandr, like everyone else has said, join a better KD. You will learn nothing from hitting that restart button several times in your first era.


12:51:38 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Sepelchure Grail:

Can i just say i feel that preds NAP of them is a complete betrayal of IoK. as is there NAP of BoW. they basically dumped IoK in *beep* and ran away. They promised IoK Military help if they declared on BoW which prior to that IoK had no plans of doing. at that time if preds had done what there vice had promised we would of crushed BoW. but due to several things this didnt happen. ill point out there claims.

1) Apparently because i never got around to answering a question which was sent to me after the MAP against BoW and Heaven And Fusion was made it meant the MAP was unofficial.

2) If you are MAP'd with someone you usually dont take there cities and prep on there armouries stopping us from efficiently attacking BoW and then when you promise to remove the armies only do so when a BoW one arrives that you cant kill....

3)You actually post the map on the forums instead of forgetting to.

4) And the most important. if you map someone against another KD and decide to make peace with the target you TELL your map partner instead of pretending nothing is going on.....

this is not a flame to preds as once i got intouch with there king all of this was sorted out but personally i think that Sir Ducaralho  Should of notified us that he was making peace instead of waiting. His king wasnt even made aware of the MAP until i messaged him because sir Ducaralho hadnt posted it anywere or told anyone.......


12:51:59 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Sepelchure Grail:

and i know that link thing is random but it wont come off lol


13:35:15 Feb 19th 09 - Sir Fords Boner:

Preds are nubs, always have been always will be. Should of killed them ;)


15:19:17 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

"Ruby Knight, why must you try and flame everyone?"

I don't flame everyone, I flame stupidity. Justin's posts were stupid, just like yours was on that other thread. Don't be stupid and I won't say anything.


16:06:07 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Sir Fords Boner

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2/19/2009 3:33:57 AM
Ruby Knight, why must you try and flame everyone?

Justin, next time tell the dwarf guy to have more MUs too. Only 100k with 500k axes, lol.

Alexandr, like everyone else has said, join a better KD. You will learn nothing from hitting that restart button several times in your first era.

Brutii is no longer playing :(. And he didnt need anymore cuz we had him sitting in a blocker waiting for Blacks nazzies along with my archmages which was enough magic defense.


16:57:26 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Alexandr Mykolayiv:

Well, thanks all for the support and advice. I think I'll stay with LDK though. They accepted me and I don't want to just leave. I'll prolly just die myself again and hopefully start somewhere else and hope that nobody finds me. Good day everyone.


17:10:40 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Karl Stuben Graf Von Freidburg:

Hej im just logged in so that makes two active in LDK Vanyaaaa! 


17:23:55 Feb 19th 09 - Mr. Ruby Knight:

Being loyal to your kingdom is a good thing that a lot of people wouldn't do in their first era. Hope to meet you again some day and hopefully be on the same side as you =)


19:25:29 Feb 19th 09 - Sir Fords Boner:

Ruby Knight. Just... hush before any flamers arrive.

Alexandr, loyalty is a good thing but loyalty to a KD nobody plays in, I'm not too sure about.


19:36:33 Feb 19th 09 - Sir Gallyon:

Ruby always says wise things =) and most of the time he is correct ;)..

So, just listen to him :D


20:44:45 Feb 19th 09 - Archangel Argyle:

hahaha, this is a funny thread :D

heaven does not deliberately hunt kingdoms of lower size, right now we are doing the opposite.

But as your kingdom is on our war list (due to the fact you started attacking us) we wont stop until the kd is disbanned, probably. or until I get contacted by your leader asking us to stop with a fair reason, I might request some stuff for us to stop attacking, relations and politics is everything!

I find it most amusing that you would turn to the community for help in this matter, instead of me. As Im one of the few that actually can do something...





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