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Fant 23
23:06:12 Dec 11th 13 - Mr. Hengest:

so whos actually playing this knit-tastic era?


13:33:58 Dec 12th 13 - SWIFTRY (Mr. Bad Bell Mate):

Not sure if you can ever call Legacy's participation as "playing".

 

They merely exist to buff up the number of KDs on the map. A minor distraction in BEO's perpetual dominance.


21:08:30 Dec 12th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Wait, what? Legend and Whorey are no longer in LGC? Please tell me this is a joke.

Is there anybody actually left there now? The spine (or what remains of it after I went) of the KD is slowly being chipped away.


21:09:24 Dec 12th 13 - Mr. Try:

We are all being kicked according to the leaders :D But wait, i left long ago.


21:18:46 Dec 12th 13 - Mr. Token:

Good lord, Swifty. Stop obsessing with LGC, it's more than old now.


22:19:02 Dec 12th 13 - Princess Aisha:

I have not seen an era where two or three large kingdoms were not placed on the same location. This is really a crappy mechanism that VU us running on, this is no longer random, every era you get dropped right next to another large kingdom.

I am losing my patience with this game.


22:26:10 Dec 12th 13 - Mr. Evansss:

I'm on Fant :D


22:29:21 Dec 12th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Princess Aisha



Report


21:19:02 Dec 12th 13
I have not seen an era where two or three large kingdoms were not placed on the same location. This is really a crappy mechanism that VU us running on, this is no longer random, every era you get dropped right next to another large kingdom.

I am losing my patience with this game.


Good. You should have deleted your account a long time ago as it is.


10:21:59 Dec 13th 13 - Timur (Sheriff Timur):

Kingdoms in Fantasia
Pink Legacy20Mr. Binh The Madman393
Poodles From Hell16Sheriff Timur100
The Immortals17Duke Leviathan76
Mod Abusing And Cheating Bastards4The Cheating Abusing Mod76
Relentless9Mr. Xxpumpxx73
Mad and Dangerous10Sir Aloysius52
Knitler Youth5Mr. Hengest46
The Phoons 6Mr. Kokimoto Tenn27
Freelance Alliance2Mr. Evansss6
Beothuk Evil Ops16Ms. Jenna Side3


10:34:00 Dec 13th 13 - Timur (Sheriff Timur):

The above list is a bit deceptive as we are only 7 ticks? into the era.  Poodles, for example, have not yet had most players spawn.   This late start was by design, as we wanted to look around and have some options before landing <I've mentioned the 4 orc strategy before....> 

Regardless, it looks like Legacy will be the kingdom to beat this era.    Or at least die valiantly against. 

If any smaller kingdom wants to nap, map or cf until Legacy is dead, or even temporarily merge into Poodles, let me know.   Against multiple smaller opponents, Legacies central command and magic will have a huge advantage.



15:14:46 Dec 13th 13 - Binh (Mr. Binh The Zerker):

That's good to hear Timur. I thought that 50-75% of Poodles and Immortals members are inactive from the power list. It would not be a fun era if there isn't a lot of peoples to fight against.


18:55:12 Dec 13th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

I love it when Binh challenges to the rest of the Fant KDs to take on LGC. It usually goes something like this:

  • Binh: "LGC is going to take on all the Fant KDs at once!"
  • Binh plays OOP. Spams some gaia.
  • Binh goes AWOL. Isn't seen for days/weeks on end.
  • The rest of the vices have to pick up the pieces and lead in his absence.
  • LGC is overwhelmed by the numbers and dies.
  • More people leave LGC.


19:49:44 Dec 13th 13 - Mr. Token:

I love it when LGC does anything on Fantasia. It usually goes something like this: 


* LGC gives a challenge for some fun warring. SwiftFail responds with typical derogatory remarks.
* Swifty, like a fanatic of the ancient gods, worships LGC, but hates the players because they have rejected him.
* The vices perform well without Swift's leadership. SwiftFail gets on the forums to whine, but deep down inside, is crying because LGC doesn't need him.
* LGC enjoys the challenge and dies. Swifty rejoices in hopes that LGC will ask him back. LGC doesn't, because LGC doesn't need him.

Fantasia since the kicking of SwiftFail:

Constant stalker-like comments about LGC out of SwiftFail, always surrounding LGC. 




19:55:35 Dec 13th 13 - Mr. Hengest:

 and he is terribad at FF. man poor guy. He should visit us in the Knitler youth, we have a special kind of chamber for his kind


20:02:06 Dec 13th 13 - Bran (Mr. Bran Bran Monk):

err how about he doesnt


20:11:52 Dec 13th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

Bran rejected swifty, ouch

is "james" at an all time low?

struggling to share the households only computer with his sister, constant abuse in dumb dumb chat and no progress in the virginity department, the poor lad(old man) must be at his whits end and now bran sticks the knife in and destroys his hopes of finally getting back into VU.

can it get worse?


20:21:08 Dec 13th 13 - Zond (The Cheating Abusing Mod):

shut up before i ban u all 


21:11:17 Dec 13th 13 - Mr. Token:

Hey Zond, can you confirm or deny the TRUTH....

that Swift's constant insults of LGC players has NOT resulted in a ban...

....because you pit him.


21:18:39 Dec 13th 13 - Zond (Sir Hoo Lee Schittt):

Pit him?


I did do the whole THIS IS SPARTA! thing and kick him a pit of doom once.. but then he left lgc and does free lance now. 


00:15:00 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Hengest:

 Poor swiffers


04:42:32 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Token:

SwiftFail,

Why don't you join Lock's KD? 

It could be like OLD times, after all there are a lot of ex-LGC sitting around. 
Maybe you could call it - SF LGC (SwiftFail LGC)


06:32:15 Dec 14th 13 - Ms. Drizzt Urden:

I wish poodles was good enough for swiftly 


14:33:43 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Jenna destroying LGC verbally today, just like she repeatedly destroyed them ingame. Felt embarrassed for Danwell when she had him on the rails with the constant beat downs.What a woman.


[11:03:17] Jenna: so dont be all lgc

[11:05:42] Jenna: ou just wish you had my win and era records

[11:04:10] Desperate Dan: gotta be consistant to be considered a grea tkd
[11:04:25] Jenna: well if we have to kick your asses again like always yeah maybe

[11:07:24] Desperate Dan: Beo struggle to string eras together
[11:07:30] Desperate Dan: the players are not motivated
[11:07:37] Jenna: and still won
[11:07:39] Jenna: wow
[11:07:47] Jenna: must say somethign about lgc

[11:08:46] Jenna: whatever take you lose like a man
[11:08:52] Jenna: man up bitch

[11:09:47] Jenna: just sick of talking to shits like you guys lgc
[11:09:53] Jenna: oh were so good
[11:10:06] Jenna: only good when were not kicking your ass
[11:10:15] Jenna: only time you win is when we aint there

[11:10:51] Jeroen Bennewitz / Legend: So pointless Danwell... Your a damn bad loser

[11:16:36] Jenna: you aint lgc  leg
[11:16:40] Jenna: since when
[11:16:45] Jenna: you booted too
[11:16:50 | Edited 11:17:21] Jenna: back stab
[11:16:55] Jenna: like the rest
[11:16:59] Jenna: :D
[11:17:15] Jeroen Bennewitz / Legend: Wanted to kick Lock. And zond made a new kd
[11:17:41] Jeroen Bennewitz / Legend: And I dont like dicktakership



My sides!


14:37:16 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Hengest:

dicktakership wut


14:46:23 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Token:

Swift, when are you going to realize that the worse you make LGC look, the more stupid you appear. 


I mean, if LGC sucks so bad and you were kicked from it... what does that make you?

SwiftFail


14:49:44 Dec 14th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

Jenna wont admit it publicly but she prefers me to swifty, i make her clit twitch


14:50:22 Dec 14th 13 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

Looking at 22 previous Fant eras as in HighScores:


Wins:
Ravage Regime :                  1
iPWN :                                  1
Relentless :                          1
Abydos :                             1
 Dark Side :                          3
Hex :                                     2
Legacy :                              4
All You Can Eat Buffet :   2
Mad :                                  1
Beothuk :                           5
Immortals :                         1



Most successful Beothuk, Legacy and Dark Side
Still waiting for Poodles to win, and we are expecting more from Immortals
I was surprised to see MAD winning recently, they were a large kingdom?
Shame Dark Side and Hex are no longer playing.



14:51:04 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Hengest:

who are you token? I enjoy this mini flame war you and swiffers have but im not familiar with the name


15:02:11 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

@Dark Spawn

A more interesting stat would be how many wins each KD has across those 22 eras, as a % of the number they've participated in. I imagine Beo must nearly have 100% played/win, whereas LGC probably has the lowest of all the KDs?

Might ask Reedle to do it. He's my sandbox mathsman.


15:22:49 Dec 14th 13 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

The four in row victories in Fantasia are impressive, that is true
The previous era victory is luck, nothing else, having a good starting position we had no problems that era. It would be impressive to do one more era and prove to everyone that Beothuk is best even with few people not playing. But there were just too many of them in need of a break.

So one can't say that they dominate Fantasia. When you look at high worlds, you can only say that Forgotten Warriors are dominating Mantrax, no other kingdoms have put such a dominance on a world like they have. And they are basically Legacy if I am not mistaken.


15:31:56 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

In fairness though, Mantrax has always been considered one of the "lesser" worlds. It isn't as competitive or as difficult as Fantasia, so it doesn't carry as much prestige.

That's largely why FW is essentially LGC-lite in terms of members. LGC has used FW on Mant as a means of letting off steam, beating on weaker KDs and getting easy wins to keep morale high while they took repetitive beatings on the "main" map, Fant. FW is just a distraction to the daily defeats.

IMO BEO are the best KD of all time. These back to back wins only confirm it.


15:44:50 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Salazarius:

Nothing you say is "fair." You're just LGC's ex-bf. Nothing more.  


If we are going to be fair, we can't pick and choose which eras we want to win. Fair is playing consistently, and allowing your consistent gameplay reflect in wins/losses. 

In LGC, the worst and stupidest players are booted (like you Swift). People leave, new players come in, etc. LGC doesn't take an era off just because we have a change in roster. 

If we want a true test of Beo's strength as a KD, we need to see them play consistently. How can a KD be great if you only see them half of the time? I'm not pointing fingers at Beo, but I am saying the evaluation of strength is a weak one, since we are missing a lot of activity in which we needed to evaluate strength. 

Right now, we have a Beo who picks which eras they will play in. I've heard from a few sources that they are having internal troubles, players leaving, etc. If that's the reason Beo isn't playing, then it's a weakness. Either way, I would like to a see a more permanent Beo if they are so great. Otherwise, i'm left with the impression they can't maintain their performance. 



16:00:46 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Token of Lgc:

Which reminds me...


How is your consistency doing Swifty? Still hurting with that kick to your bum? 


19:05:41 Dec 14th 13 - Ms. Tribunal:

The four in row victories in Fantasia are impressive, that is true
The previous era victory is luck, nothing else, having a good starting position we had no problems that era. It would be impressive to do one more era and prove to everyone that Beothuk is best even with few people not playing. But there were just too many of them in need of a break.

So one can't say that they dominate Fantasia. When you look at high worlds, you can only say that Forgotten Warriors are dominating Mantrax, no other kingdoms have put such a dominance on a world like they have. And they are basically Legacy if I am not mistaken.

 

fw is darkside  and darkside was great :)


19:07:43 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Salazarius:

"But there were just too many of them in need of a break. " 


Is this true though?


19:09:03 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Salazarius:

Beo took off several eras (Player base issue I heard). 


Beo taking off this era. (Player base issue. Players leaving the KD). 

I mean, good job with the winning, it was a good fight, but aren't you guys having difficulties with your player consistency?


19:25:36 Dec 14th 13 - Tyr (Sir Tyrgalon):

They got rl, its not like they have  losses as a kd or other kd related VU stuff not making them want to play.


19:37:13 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Token of Lgc:

So what you're suggesting, is that FW on Mantrax have a RL. It's not like they have losses as a KD or other KD related VU stuff not making them want to play. 


Right? 


20:07:58 Dec 14th 13 - Princess Bashar al Assad:

The reason why so many beo members needed a break was because they played a boring game of VU. It's like watching a football game of Barcalonas, they may win but fuck me if someone can ligit sit through a whole game (era in vu sense) and say they enjoyed they should be put into a mental asylum. Mass napping/having 1/3 more members then the next biggest kingdom would be boring as all hell. It's not fun when you don't have a challenge and that's why so many beo members require a break. 

Legacy rarely have members leave because they have simply gotten too bored of the game.


20:32:25 Dec 14th 13 - Mr. Token:

Finally, someone who can answer my questions. 


Which players aren't playing VU because of this break, and aren't in leadership? 


00:03:58 Dec 15th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

LGC have people leave due to dictatorships, oh and that we allow "gays" into our kd


00:08:49 Dec 15th 13 - Mr. Hengest:

lol someone left because of that?


00:38:04 Dec 15th 13 - Mr. Salazarius:

Now, if you want to guess who . . .


03:05:54 Dec 15th 13 - Zond (The Cheating Abusing Mod):

lol


this thread is funny.

and the whole gay thing is even more funny. to bad my frans wont allow me to say what i want to say on the matter


04:58:51 Dec 15th 13 - Jondy (Sir Jondrus Kilowatt):

"You don't know the power of the Dark Side"

FW is probably the most coordinated kd I have ever been in. Atleast in the last few ages.

ps. Too many worlds and characters now.


07:51:03 Dec 15th 13 - Ms. Laura The Gold Miner:

Salazarius sorry that Beo members have real (relatively successful) lives, duties, and commitments that consume time... too much time for them to play era after era (boringly stomping maps with ease). oh yeah, and christmas is coming up, and Beo members have real life friends and family to spend it with and create memories. real life memories.

do you have any real life friends, duties, or commitments? if you answered yes, then you should be understanding of Beo members situations. if you answered 'no' then I feel sorry for you, really I do... but you should also have no excuse for losing to beo then?!?!?


by the way i have to disagree with the above. FW isn't very good, it's basically LGC on a lower world that has no competition... of course they would appear 'organised' and would 'win' alot.


07:53:03 Dec 15th 13 - Ms. Laura The Gold Miner:

i just had an idea... maybe LGC should take a break for an era or two, then maybe when they come back they will have renewed vigor and can create a challenge

or just disband. either works


09:52:29 Dec 15th 13 - Mr. Dung Eating Beetle:

The latest Legacy excuse: "We have never beaten Beothuk, but Beothuk do not consistently play era after era, so we are better than them anyway."


I mean, come on.... this nonsense is getting old, tired and worn out.

You Legacians had 5 (FIVE) chances to inflict a beatdown on Beothuk. Instead, what we have are 5 Beothuk era wins out of 5 eras played.

That's a batting average of 1. ONE.

Then let's put aside the favourable starting position that Beothuk got last era. Let's just do a comparison of Legacy's 23 players vs Beothuk's best 23 players last era.

Beothuk's best 23 players would smash last era's Legacy 4:1 in a 5 era series. Every. Single. Time.

There are many factors that allow Beothuk to triumph over Legacy time after time again. Let me share with you two of those factors.

Factor #1: 

Beothuk vices: Jill, Mike, Crissxcross, Augh, Iceworks, JLT, myself (TBL).

Legacy vices: Binh, Stirlin, Melanie, Pure, Wilberforce.

The last two names on Legacy's leader roll alone resulted in a massive liability to Legacy's strategic direction and leadership versus Beothuk's leadership.

Beothuk - superior leadership, Legacy - several weak, inferior leaders

Factor #2:

The top 5 players in the game (in the eras Beothuk played) are as follows:

1. Binh
2. - 5. (in no particular order) Dalak, Crissxcross, Mike, myself (TBL).

Legacy may have the game's best player on their roster. Beothuk however, has 4 of the best 5. And arguably 8 of the best 10 in the game (Warlock is the only other Legacy player who can compete for a top 10 player position).

Beothuk had some of the strongest and most accomplished players in the game on its core team. However, Legacy's blinding arrogance caused them to underestimate Beothuk's player quality time and time again (heck, even now).




At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether Beothuk plays consistently era after era. What matters is that WHENEVER we play, we play WELL, and whenever we decide to show up in the game, we show up when Legacy is strong. We have never told ourselves: "Hey, Legacy is weak now.... this would be a great time to bring Beothuk back." We tell ourselves: "Hey guys, want to have another run or two on Fantasia for old times sake? Legacy has been doing well, so we should have a good fight on our hands." There's a clear difference in mindset here.

And finally, this is just a game. And like all games (online and real world), they eventually get pushed aside for real life or more important priorities. I could continue to play VU era after era if I did not have 2 careers, a demanding missus, and a pre-planned future to work towards to. Similarly, many of my Beothuk comrades have families, careers and real-life expectations that they are responsible for. Not to mention that it is the year end and we are all out getting some much needed rest away from our stressful regular lives. We don't need a game to inject more stress than is already necessary.

If some of you Legacy folks want to continue talking smack about Beothuk regardless, well, please go ahead. It will not have one iota of an impact on any of us or our accomplishments. Beothuk has already etched its name in the record books.


09:58:38 Dec 15th 13 - Teirdel (Saint Teirdel):

Happy to see this. Forums seem to be far more active recently I think we should keep it up.

 

Also if yall get a chance archi posted one of them voting sites in bt thread earlier. If yall could vote might be able to get fresh blood into VU. just hoping at least.


12:18:08 Dec 15th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

do you even lift? fight us 1vs1



id take every member of lgc over a beo member simply for their view of the game, you can knock this group of players all you like but each era we have fun, we might die to an overwhelming force but we pushed our limits attempting so. this is why as a group we are always here. 
Weve lost members, hell a few eras ago we lost a decent chunk when some decided to try and rival us, we didnt give up, we stuck by, took in several players who are now our core players, its the never say die attitude that keeps us going

Keep your era wins BEO, were still here. i know where id rather be.


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