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Mantrax 56
21:09:37 Jan 17th 18 - HorusPanic (Lord Horus C):

Can't believe there isn't a thread yet...


Kingdoms in Mantrax
House Mormont11King Burninglegion The Wrathful204
Forgotten Warriors17Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal185
Royal Order of Claidhmore10Battlemage Mcmax The Humble100
Army of Anubis5Prince Anonymous79
Pestilence6The Oppressed48


14:43:57 Jan 29th 18 - HorusPanic (Lord Horus C):

ROC takes a tumble


Kingdoms in Mantrax
House Mormont11King Burninglegion The Wrathful679
Forgotten Warriors17Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal538
Pestilence6The Oppressed155
Army of Anubis6Prince Anonymous153
Royal Order of Claidhmore10Lord Horus C100


05:08:27 Feb 12th 18 - HorusPanic (Lord Horus C):

Kingdoms in Mantrax
House Mormont11King Burninglegion The Wrathful611
Forgotten Warriors16Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal311
Pestilence4The Oppressed219
Army of Anubis5Prince Anonymous156
Royal Order of Claidhmore10Lord Horus C100


16:49:35 Feb 20th 18 - SockHer (Soccer Sockher Face):

who is winning now


17:16:28 Feb 20th 18 - Venomz (High Warlord Venz):

Well, now that the mass NAP to fight FW has likely come to an end it's anyone's game.


17:44:12 Feb 20th 18 - HorusPanic (Lord Horus C):

I think Mormont is the  top dog now,,, so the pile on continues


17:54:06 Feb 20th 18 - SockHer (Soccer Sockher Face):

ally me and lets go after mormont!  Only 40 more days in protection :) 


05:13:10 Feb 21st 18 - Mr. Kosses:

seems like the era is staying pretty action packede its way more fun then the bs happening on fantasia 


Kingdoms in Mantrax
House Mormont11King Burninglegion The Wrathful100
Pestilence5The Oppressed34
Forgotten Warriors16Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal29
Army of Anubis6Prince Anonymous26
Royal Order of Claidhmore10Lord Horus C23


06:42:58 Feb 21st 18 - Ella (Ms. Ella II):

So you want to compare Fantasia and Mantrax?
Ok lets take a look.
You have two major forces, one clearly better kingdom on each world
Mad on Fanta and FW on Mantrax.

What do the other kingdoms do? They join up to fight them
On both worlds, nothing different there.

Lets take look at number of battles.
Fantasia has been running longer time, but the number of fights is far superior to Mantrax. So can't say its not action packed...

It might look less fun for you cause on Mantrax you already won 
And you're enjoying it more I guess?
But main reason you won is because FW does not have enough members
Mad has much more members and thats one of the reasons they are doing much better against an alliance of all other kingdoms.

Cause lets face it, the same thing happened on both worlds.



Fights:
Mantrax


Forgotten Warriors
Battles won: 130
Battles lost: 126

Mormont
Battles won: 115
Battles lost: 112

Pestilence
Battles won: 58
Battles lost: 22

Army of Anubis
Battles won: 14
Battles lost: 17

Royal Order of C
Battles won: 15
Battles lost: 24



Fights
Fantasia

Mad
Battles won: 362
Battles lost: 266

Ascension
Battles won: 99
Battles lost: 73

Albatross
Battles won: 128
Battles lost: 217

Abydos
Battles won: 84
Battles lost: 65









06:48:37 Feb 21st 18 - Mr. Bane:

The wars are actually very different.

AoA and Roc were fighting FW.
Mormont interrupted that war, trying to bottom feed as always.
Pesti assisted AoA with rooting out an orc from FW, before mormont attacked Pesti, who in turn counter attacked Mormont. 
AoA and RoC took their time to rebuild but are now counter attacking Mormont, while FW are seeking vengence. 

Fant, it was 3 kd's shat themselves and decided to fight one. End of story.


08:15:41 Feb 21st 18 - Mr. Kosses:

i agree it seemed more like FW was was focused solely on AOA and ROC and from the looks of things they were winning then once Mormont jumped in FW didn't have enough people in the area to defend its core and after several failed attempts we managed to get inside and reinforce our armies and take the whole core 


on Fant ive only seen MAD successfully attack one kingdom and it was the weakest on the map at the time because ABY is dead this era i guess. and ASC and ALBA teamed up right form the get go because of spawn locations although personally i would of preferred a proper oop war there, it would have been a bit more fun

as far as ive seen there have only been a few active attackers on Fant although it seems to be an increasing number finally there was almost a 2 week lull in activity from anyone which hasnt been the case at all on Mantrax


09:42:42 Feb 21st 18 - Mr. Bane:

mormont are the failures in vu. ones who cant fight in small kds of 4 or 5. 


09:46:49 Feb 21st 18 - Mr. Bane:

They also like to use multi's... KBL taken a leaf from Kaths book.


14:55:33 Feb 21st 18 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion The Ore Hoarder):

Bane your rage fuels me, 


FW are the most active group of players in VU, there are only a handful of them.

FW took out RoC OOP, AOA was barely holding the line.

House Mormont attacked FW for a week and FW held until we broke through and still every city costed us thousands of troops. 

As AoA was on its last leg Pesti also joined in against FW, shortly after House Mormont attacked Pesti

RoC and AoA attacked the biggest kingdom ( House Mormont ) and still to this day the FW core is a battleground with both FW remnants, a powerful Pesti army, RoC, and AoA all joining in to fight Mormont.

Its been a great era. Now try your tears Bane.

-BL


15:52:18 Feb 21st 18 - Mr. Bane:

Leaders within both Pesti and FW both agree you guys have been cheating.

Firstly, one of your own players has been enquiring about how much more XP he can exploit.
Secondly, you started with 11 players, added some new players, and still got 11 players. The new players you added have no history, and if they were nubs when they landed would never have joined you considering they were literally surrounded by an enemy. Then as soon as it gave you the benefit of LoS, they go inactive. 
Players who started the era, also new players, mysteriously get kicked, and your kd feeds. That's a classic multi feed strategy. 
Dude, you seriously gotta think we were born yesterday. After 15 years of this game, we seen it all, and know EXACTLY when to call bullshit... same as we know EXACTLY what type of person you are, who will do anything for an attempt to win.


16:36:41 Feb 21st 18 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion The Ore Hoarder):

I'll take time to explain each of your silly accusations later


16:39:50 Feb 21st 18 - Mr. Bane:

We've watched you do EXACTLY that. And not just one kd, 3 kds have all seen the same thing.  I've asked zeta to pull up the game logs to prove you are a cheat, and then deal with you.


03:46:50 Feb 22nd 18 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Wrathful):

Bane, It is unfortunate you think that. An inquire to any of my dealing you will find a straight forward approach to it all.


Here are our battles this era, and a majority of those were quite large

Battles won: 118
Battles lost: 119


03:48:45 Feb 22nd 18 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Wrathful):

I kicked inactive members who decided to sit the era out, they did not drop. I added .. i think 1 member early on and 1 other member was accepted a couple weeks ago but has very few buildings. That person asked for asylum in House Mormont and I have the pm to prove it.


06:40:28 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

From FW point of view there is no difference between Mormont and Pestilence relations/war choices this era. You both jumped into our fight with AoA/RoC with a few pretty farmed up armies.

The good news (or bad) is I'm back from a holiday now!


06:44:17 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

I jumped in. Rest of Pesti taking the era off.

I also offered FW the same choice I did to AoA. Fight Mormont or sit here and die. They chose to fight mormont, who have so far XP farmed, and fed on players. Big difference.


07:01:47 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

You and Oppressed yes.

"I also offered FW the same choice I did to AoA."

*Elsin checks his inbox for an offer.
* (Not that it would have been accepted...)

My post wasn't about xp farming. If they are guilty of using that pathetic abuse, it will show in science count at the end of era, and we can all "pity" them then.

My post was about my (maybe pointless) quest to highlight the "cheese" that is NAPs and to point them out when I see them. On this subject you have no moral high ground over Mormont :)



07:04:14 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

Feel free to ask Roxy and Venom. In fact i'm still guiding your players out of harms way as we speak. It wasn't a NAP offer, but a chance to get back in the fight.  But whatever...


07:28:40 Feb 22nd 18 - McMax (Battlemage Mcmax The Eye):

We have learned, that FW doesn't accept any kind of deal. And that's perfectly OK as we know they are firm on that.

Not even a little nice "We close our eyes, you close yours" can be made (I have tried).


07:45:58 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

thats fine. but while elsin likes to be macho, some of his kd members wanted to fight on. so be it. i got no problem bashing elsin around every era.


07:48:53 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Pang Tong:

Says the one who announced about quitting VU :P


07:50:44 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

I bashed elsin and roxy has teleported me and my cities around the map for many era's. But fant has lost its magic. So done after this era. 


08:09:46 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

"I bashed elsin"

You may have tried :)


08:11:03 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

You dead aren't you? thus you got bashed.


08:18:06 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Pang Tong:

Elsin is immortal?


08:19:21 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

Yeah, got caught in a clusterfuck this era, but pretty much immortal.


09:53:18 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Kosses:

im confused how have we been xp farming? the only thing i can think of is the Dragons you d***s have sent after not once but twice and if thats farming then its your doing not ours


09:54:23 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

I've sent no dragons ... but one kd reckons you guys kicked one of your players to cast on his city, and thus being able to kill the dragon in a controlled area only you could see, thus gaining massive XP.


11:08:19 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

You starting to see your little manipulation of the game mechanics unfolding yet?

KBL kicked the player, Theo likely raised the dragon, which you attempted to kill, expecting gold, and gaining massive XP, meanwhile Theo is adventing mad sciences right now, and you used that exploit to defeat FW.
We dont like kd's who kill their own pets.


11:32:43 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

"You dead aren't you?"

Not until the last gaia dies!


15:35:12 Feb 22nd 18 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Wrathful):

Theo was involved in the FW fight little compared to Stash/Machete/Mei/Bidi/Pooannie/Sable/Koss


Theo killed one of the two dragons, I am not sure who you are claiming I kicked.... I rarely kick players unless they go inactive because I have a great team who arnt a bunch of whining children (ex. Bane )

Blah's kingdom fought like hell to keep us out of there core and we lost alot of armies to break the line. Blah can attest that we didnt roll over them in a night it took a week or more of constant armies and city swapping to break them.

To be fair, RoC lost OOP to FW and AoA was gonna lose if my kingdom didnt fight FW. 

Since we are the largest kingdom I expected everyone to jump on us, there has been no feeding of any kind. The only player I kicked was Bolek who hadnt played all era.

I dont know where one of the dragons came from, but there was plenty of enemy scouts around our core to use. 


16:08:32 Feb 22nd 18 - Mr. Bane:

You raised 2 dragons and killed them for xp. We already know clown.


17:02:12 Feb 22nd 18 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Wrathful):

Bane your wrong, neither of our halflings killed the dragons, an Elf and Troll did.


Theo wasnt one of them. You know less than you think Baney :P


06:00:12 Feb 23rd 18 - SockHer (Soccer Sockher Face):

Did king burninglegion forget which lie he was telling in a matter of 1.5 hours? UH OH!!!!!


Theo killed one of the two dragons, I am not sure who you are claiming I kicked.... I rarely kick players unless they go inactive because I have a great team who arnt a bunch of whining children (ex. Bane )


Theo wasnt one of them. You know less than you think Baney :P




11:13:22 Feb 23rd 18 - Mr. Kosses:

theo wasnt one of them avreon killed one and mei san got the other. i even tried to talk him into killing one for the xp but he couldn't catch up with it so avreon finished it off instead


06:36:14 Feb 24th 18 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

"i even tried to talk him into killing one for the xp but he couldn't catch up with it"

I'm not sure "We tried to xp feed, but failed" is a great argument :)


10:31:40 Feb 24th 18 - Strawberry (Ms. Mei San):

There's a weird long vertical line traversing the whole map along New Milkerton, Roc Forever and Light cities. I almost thought my laptop screen is broken, or am i the only one seeing this?


10:49:24 Feb 24th 18 - Mr. Bane:

its a tripwire...


12:06:32 Feb 24th 18 - Venomz (High Warlord Venz):

This proves the earth is flat.


15:26:29 Feb 24th 18 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Wrathful):

Soccermom I thought Theo did kill the dragon but I was corrected by a member who posted the kill, A halfling didnt kill either one of them :P


00:49:04 Feb 25th 18 - Dragon Prophet Theophilus:

I have never been able to kill a dragon :/

And I couldn't cast a dragon if I wanted to. I had one army with XP when a FW army bounced me, but I lost it via merge and transfer. I think I scored a few farming sciences. (Not farming for sciences, literal farming.)
 Farming
Level 5
Upgrading will cost 208,632,600 gold and 20,863,260 food

I know it isn't tactical to reveal, but here's my magic level and cost. No XP farming, and honestly a little bummed I haven't had the oppurtunity to roll with mega halfers as I always try to do.

Magic Level
Level 6
Upgrading will cost 25,892,527,500 gold, 2,301,558,000 stone, 2,301,558,000 tree and 2,301,558,000 food. 

Someone did ask (High Warlord Venz) about why I build the way I do. I'm an open book. I enjoy the building aspect of the game more than the war, and I've settled on an empire strategy centered around 26k cities with few exception. I find it works well. I've got 23 cities, almost all of which are mine built up. 543k buildings and a few more still filtering through, slowly. 

I believe in having a garrison in every city (Enough times years ago getting creamed over and over and over and over again on Valhalla by Chade and company taught me never to leave things undefended).  I believe if there is a gap for a 14k city it makes a great magic city, and I think having more magic cities makes more sense than 1 mega casting city. This has been the perfect era for basic farming. It's what I did. I'm not ashamed of it, as I play this game to be able to build, and you guys are more or less NPCs that I react to and around. 

I like economics and I am a capitalist, so I love to work through the markets and offer low goods. I love lots of small armies, and lots of small cities. I like diplomacy and I like econ. War is alright, but I like playing defensively. Hate me if you like for it, but I'm an open book, and I like trying to find out how to best utilize standard and intended mechanics in the game to do so. 

The only uncontrolled variable that I can't always account for is other players. That is why I enjoy the game so much, and have played on and off for 10 years and counting.

At any rate, is a 4v1 in order?

Kingdoms in Mantrax
House Mormont12King Burninglegion The Wrathful100
Pestilence5The Oppressed37
Forgotten Warriors16Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal32
Army of Anubis6Prince Anonymous31
Royal Order of Claidhmore11Lord Horus C30


01:00:21 Feb 25th 18 - Mr. Bane:

Your kd attacked all 4 kd's


01:05:26 Feb 25th 18 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Wrathful):

This is a good old fashion 4 vs 1 alliance and even FW is joining in on it. I don't believe we attacked AoA.


but we did RoC and Pestilence for sure, I think it looks bad to have all of your cities intermingled and still only hunting the Bear.

 Its all good, Bring it on Baney Poo


01:10:00 Feb 25th 18 - Mr. Bane:

There is no alliance.

FW is solo on their own crusade as usual and they have their wars.
Pesti are pretty much a 3 man kd.
As for AoA and RoC, I have no idea what their relations are. 
Only alliances are the voices in your head talking to each other.


01:18:36 Feb 25th 18 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Wrathful):

Alright Baney Poo., I don't know what you call this, but it certainly looks like an alliance to me .... plus the hunting down of only Mormont cities and armies with castings coming from different kingdoms until a success hits. Yet all I hear from you is how we cheat.



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