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PHI townswapping II
03:38:02 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Moe Lester:

Now, I'm one to usually mind my own business, but when they (they, being PHI. Who else?) do this so provocatively I think an opinion needs to be aired on the matter.

There had been rumours circulating earlier in the round that PHI (allied with MAD) were taking MAD cities (who were warring Carnage at the time, while PHI had NAP'ed them) to deny Carnage the opportunity of gaining precious warspoils, while MAD were unceremoniously being routed. I thought they were merely vicious rumours that had been circulated, and had little weight to them until later in the round, when we actively saw MAD kick its own members from the kingdom, and with PHIs participation, take over those cities to feed each other; essentially aiding the previous preconceptions and rumours veracity. Now, you can give them the benefit of the doubt once, perhaps. And maybe turn a blind eye the second. But three times? This takes the biscuit.

What is to be done PHI's blatant transgressions? They're creating accounts, building them up with cities in their core, then kicking them out to take over their cities to feed themselves. No need to waste money on growing when you have other accounts to do it for you, eh?




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So, does PHI think we're blind to their townswapping? Disgusting.


05:11:42 Nov 9th 07 - Duke Meganeura:

That explains so much....they went a whole 10% up and now dropped 4% down again. But it makes sense why the rose so quickly, thier swapping towns! What *beep*s! I thought Mavich was better then that........


06:21:58 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

Ok. To clear things up.


The ruler of that city went inactive a long time ago, but was never kicked.
When I found out that inactives were getting kicked...I decided to take the city. Yup...13k city...not willingly gave up, but someone went inactive. Hardly the constant abuse seen from eras ago is it?

06:28:15 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

didn't edit fast enough: above post continued.

So this...is obviously wrong.
"What is to be done PHI's blatant transgressions? They're creating accounts, building them up with cities in their core, then kicking them out to take over their cities to feed themselves. No need to waste money on growing when you have other accounts to do it for you, eh?"
1. First, not plural.
2. 2nd, not creating account/s. Real player, played, left for some reason (no clue why, I just came back to VU.)
3. Building them up with cities in their core? (ya...13k is built up...)
4. feeding themselves? (Nope, 1 inactive kicked for the era, 1 city 13k...so much for feeding) and as far as I know, that's the only city he had...not sure though.
5. multi accounts? get real :P.

Sorry. I forgot to contradict you point about Gwn being first era.

You should probably check era Hoh, I'm sure he's in there, and I knew him my first year of phi...


07:26:52 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Mongi:





what!!! another LGC jump?





07:59:14 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Legend:

Give me a break....Gwn had --------> "ONE" <------- city and had been inactive for over two weeks....we decide to kick him and you call it townswapping and feeding. Come on now lets get real here!!! Plus u call us cheaters for multying?? I think thats a little much. Plus get your facts straight----MAD did not kick their own players to reap the benefits but three of their own decided to leave peacefully, no problem there i see. Also about Carnage spoils, Carnage was nowhere near us when the MAD incident that u think you know about happened. When you know whats actually happening then how bout you come talk to us, but for now.....you just look dumb.


09:00:47 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Titty Titty Bang Bang:

Despicable from Phi. What happened to you Phi, you used to be cool.


09:53:17 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Architect:

@ Legend:

"Plus u call us cheaters for multying?? I think thats a little much."

Multying is cheating, period.  If you have multiple accounts, you are a cheater and thats the end of it.

"MAD did not kick their own players to reap the benefits but three of their own decided to leave peacefully, no problem there i see."

So, are you telling me that they left "peacefully" and then they took their towns?  That does not sound so peaceful to me.

"Also about Carnage spoils, Carnage was nowhere near us when the MAD incident that u think you know about happened."

The only reason Carnage was not near MAD, except with a few armies of 5K, was because you guys were pleading with us not to attack MAD because you needed them as a buffer between you and LGC.  I have many convos saved on my computer that can prove this, if you wanna see em, just ask.  It's kinda despicable to ask MAD to take the brunt of LGC's force for you guys so that you can sit back and farm.

@ Mr. Ignis Bored And Back

"3. Building them up with cities in their core? (ya...13k is built up...)"

A perfect 13K mining city w/o any mining science or Cavers or any other plusses coming in at 7 gold per mine will net you roughly 75,833.33 gold per tick..  Do this enough times and yeah, it becomes a very big source of income.  No need to spend money on building a city, no need to deal with the low productivity in the beginning of a city, no problems, just come in and get a 75K boost. 

Also, you are not denying that you did this here, you are simply stating that it is not built up, which in a round-about way means you are admitting to having used this to your advantage.

If anyone can logically explain to me how you jumped up 10% on us (Carnage) and then dropped 4% all within like 12 hours, while we are only gaining land and troops, while loosing nothing and you are supposedly at a stalemate, then I MIGHT reconsider my thoughts, but until you can explain this to me, you are town swapping.


10:16:29 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Mongi:

Ohh.. we are being gang banged. 4 enemies at once. hehehe..


10:49:11 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Zerocool The Berserker:

wow. mods really are starting to piss me off. deleting a post when its against LGC. always.

and some carnage @sses started to show up again when they arent included in the fight.


always the LGC fish bait. as stupid as always

you guys are so pitiful! get a     LIFE


11:09:22 Nov 9th 07 - Lord Software Bug:

We love you to, Zerocool.


11:15:27 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Carolus Rex:

Hahaha, pure comedy :)

kudos to you legacy


14:03:18 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Moe Lester:

Looks like I wasn't the only one to notice PHI's shady side. Yes, that is very interesting Arch, I hadn't noticed the figure drops and rises myself, but now that you point it out, it certainly fits, especially when you take into consideration the MAD/Carnage debacle, and the MAD/PHI/kicking of members instance. :)

Still, even with their hand caught firmly in the cookie jar, PHI tries to deny any form of townswapping and feeding? I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad. Mind you, this is spineless-PHI we're talking about.


14:20:27 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Legend:

1st) I was saying it was a ridiculous statement when they know we arnen't multying. I never said multying was okay or not cheating i was saying they know we re not multying so why bring it up.

2nd) They did not want to be a part of MAD so they gave up their towns, making it peaceful. This means that MAD did not kick them then take their towns and then they had to kill all their armies.

3rd) Please know what you are talking about, we are warring DB, Legacy, and FF. Having a NAP with one kingdom doesn't seem too crazy for me. I'm pretty sure our intentions are not to farm here, but thanks for the advice. Somehow i don't understand how we were sitting back and letting MAD take on legacy. We have control of all of the blockers leading to our core......

4th)The jump in power....I think it was over a much longer period of time than you are talking about and there could be many factors. First, an increase of 75k income for 1 player will not give 10 percent more power to an entire kingdom at this time in an era, thats just ridiculous. Second, you all are warring a couple kingdoms and probably losing many troops, even though making many land gains. This could be an explanation for a small shift in power.

5th) So your strategy of looking at cheating is guilty until proven innocent??


15:32:17 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Lenard:

47. Mr. Gwn Phi Empire Dwarf 1199269 - Era 22

Seriously, doesn't LGC have something better to do than pick on some guy who went inactive?

To Archi, that was hardly a perfect mine...look at the pic. It wouldn't even get 5/7 being a mile from the mountain. 13k buildings takes what 6 hours to make? Ooo big deal. And taking towns is hardly perfect prod, if you've ever taken one you'd know it kills all the peasants.


15:40:11 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Mongi:

@Archi why not take LGC/DB/other kingdom head on until the era ends. based on history, you just take LGC from start but not finishing the war. try to change. take on LGC and finish the war!


16:07:10 Nov 9th 07 - Lord Ladybug:

@ Mongi: We just got a new diplomat and I don't want you to chase him away. To answer your question: We could had finished the wars we started if there are no mega-alliances against the both of us at the same time. Everytime we fight to a stalemate, (with Carnage in a slight disadvantage most of the time...) some other folks will decide: hey Carnage/LGC/DB is now easy meat; lets get them. Then we will all ceasefire and go after our own enemies. Somehow, we always prevail against the vultures.

To think that almost towards the end of era, we will almost always be called the vultures.......

Credit to MAD and PHI before, they had at least fight 1 very "clean" war (that lasted almost the whole era) against LGC before. But at that time, they only had minor disruptions from others. And that was one "feel-good" end of era, because it was fun for the both of them, and no mud was slung from one end of the map to the other. And LGC folks actually praised PHI (and the compliments were returned). But somehow, the feeling is degenerating....


16:17:39 Nov 9th 07 - Pirate Lewatha:

Pretty funny how the people  that left MAD to go to another world 2 weeks ago, are still creating cities inside their core...

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16:31:34 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Mongi:

@Ladybug... maybe its only your thinking. you haven't fought LGC strait an era long. like MAD/PHI did. but where's the mega alliance against us. when we did that a few eras ago. you can always try though..


16:33:57 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Mongi:

another one. when MAD/PHI fight a clean war against LGC/DB, it should be repeated again but the LGC done a crosswall then wall jumped...they are the ones that make this war dirty.


16:38:42 Nov 9th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

<rubs hands eagerly> Oh boy, I was getting tired of reading about starta^^

 

@Zerocool:  <always the LGC fish bait. as stupid as always

you guys are so pitiful! get a     LIFE>

I guess its a good thing you know how to play the game so good, otherwise I cannot fathom at all why Phi would continue to put up with you.I thought it was funny how there was very little personal insults going on until you showed up. Is it possible you can carry on an argument without resorting to childish behavior?

@Mongi: <@Archi why not take LGC/DB/other kingdom head on until the era ends. based on history, you just take LGC from start but not finishing the war. try to change. take on LGC and finish the war!>

 

Riiigghhhhtttt........because you yourself are so knowledgeable in the carnage/legacy history...being a member of either kingdom....what? you werent?

<shakes head>

Carnage and Legacy has both fought each other plenty of times in the past, several of those eras we fought till the end of the era..many eras we choose not to fight simply because both kingdoms have gained a battle hardened respect for one another...bah....i have no need to defend ourselves to anyone...

 

As can be seen, many in carnage have differences of opinions on many things (you should see our forums:P) but we have never tried to restrict freedom of speech (if we did, i would have gagged Venomz along time ago) so take what they say as their own opinion.

 

FLAME ON!!


 


17:40:26 Nov 9th 07 - Dreadlord Noiralav:

beetle hardened respect?!

 

:o


17:48:48 Nov 9th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

uhhhmmmmmm.....

riiigghhhhtttt........

<backs away from valarion slowly>


19:20:09 Nov 9th 07 - Sir Patton:

Mr. Zerocool, what you've typed is one of the most insanely 1d10dic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent reply were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.


19:44:56 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Dragonfly:

Mr. Zerocool The Berserker

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11/9/2007 12:49:11 PMwow. mods really are starting to piss me off. deleting a post when its against LGC. always.

and some carnage @sses started to show up again when they arent included in the fight.


always the LGC fish bait. as stupid as always

you guys are so pitiful! get a     LIFE



OMG we are more then just great asses you know...
and stay out of the fight??   :(
zero is such a provoker and he is in charge of diplomacy hahaha.
He shure knows how to make enemies..


20:32:34 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Legend:

I'm pretty sure sure isn't spelled shure lol


20:48:01 Nov 9th 07 - Pirate Lewatha:

and that's exactly what this thread is about!


20:48:35 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Architect:

Ladybug, who is our new Diplomat?  I've not heard, or at least not realized.

@ Legend:

"3rd) Please know what you are talking about, we are warring DB, Legacy, and FF. Having a NAP with one kingdom doesn't seem too crazy for me. I'm pretty sure our intentions are not to farm here, but thanks for the advice. Somehow i don't understand how we were sitting back and letting MAD take on legacy. We have control of all the blockers leading to our core...."

1st, I never said that having a NAP with a kingdom was a problem.  I am saying that you are sitting back while MAD is doing your fighting.
2nd, Your farming, which is increasing your power immensely fast would be considered "sitting back" and letting MAD fight LGC.
3rd, My point exactly, You have control of all YOUR blockers and nothing else, you are staying behind the lines farming.

"4th)The jump in power....I think it was over a much longer period of time than you are talking about and there could be many factors. First, an increase of 75k income for 1 player will not give 10 percent more power to an entire kingdom at this time in an era, thats just ridiculous. Second, you all are warring a couple kingdoms and probably losing many troops, even though making many land gains. This could be an explanation for a small shift in power."

1st, I agree with you entirely, a 75K boost at this time in the era will mean nothing, however if you do this many times over, it will easily do so.  I still see that you are not denying it, just making up reasons for why it is ok.
2nd, yes, fighting could be an explanation for a SMALL shift in power, but not a 10% jump.  If you are "Holding you blockers", you wont be gaining anything while we constantly are.  For every troop that dies on the field, we make 2 more, therefore e are constantly growing, there is no way we shrunk by 10% or you jumped by 10% without some alternate means.

@ Lenard

"To Archi, that was hardly a perfect mine...look at the pic. It wouldn't even get 5/7 being a mile from the mountain. 13k buildings takes what 6 hours to make? Ooo big deal. And taking towns is hardly perfect prod, if you've ever taken one you'd know it kills all the peasants."

I never said that one was a perfect mine, I said that any perfect mine would yield that.  I never stated that the one people are fighting over is this kind of town, I was taking the best of all cases and compiling them.  Slaves help fix the Production problem...  You knew that right?

@ Mongi

"@Archi why not take LGC/DB/other kingdom head on until the era ends. based on history, you just take LGC from start but not finishing the war. try to change. take on LGC and finish the war!"

First off, LGC is on the opposite side of the map from us, making it obscenely hard to mount anything that can break their lines.  LGC is a hard fighting Kingdom and we would need to have major armories near them to be able to break through, right now we don't, making this idea a physical impossibility.  Go ahead and kill LGC, lemme know how the whole "finishing the war" thing turns out for you.

Now, go ahead children, pick it apart as always... =D


21:22:33 Nov 9th 07 - Lord Lithos:

Now, I'm one to usually mind my own business (are you kidding) , but when they (they, being PHI. Who else?) do this so provocatively I think an opinion needs to be aired on the matter.

There had been rumours circulating earlier in the round that PHI (allied with MAD) were taking MAD cities (who were warring Carnage at the time, while PHI had NAP'ed them) to deny Carnage the opportunity of gaining precious warspoils (Carnage has been on a completely different side of the map until very recently, like the past few days, I don't even remember seeing carnage armies until just recently obviously you're not going off of fact) , while MAD were unceremoniously being routed (I'm pretty sure you can't prove this, it never happened). I thought they were merely vicious rumours that had been circulated, and had little weight to them until later in the round, when we actively saw MAD kick its own members from the kingdom (they couldn't be active anymore and left, we already covered this dumbass) , and with PHIs participation, take over those cities to feed each other; essentially aiding the previous preconceptions and rumours veracity (who started these rumors :)?). Now, you can give them the benefit of the doubt once, perhaps. And maybe turn a blind eye the second. But three times? This takes the biscuit (that expression doesn't even make sense).

What is to be done PHI's blatant transgressions (You haven't shown we've been guilty of any transgressions)? They're creating accounts, building them up with cities in their core, then kicking them out to take over their cities to feed themselves (we took a city from someone who hadn't logged on in 2 week; you're). No need to waste money on growing when you have other accounts to do it for you (no, there isn't but again we don't have multis the only 'evidence' you have is one city being prepped on youre being ridiculous), eh? (eh?!?)




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So, does PHI think we're blind to their townswapping?  Disgusting. (You're blind to something... disgusting)



21:31:30 Nov 9th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

Has gone blind from such liberal use of the color red....


22:15:53 Nov 9th 07 - Duke Meganeura:

Seriosly dude.....don't do that again. Use green or blue.


23:17:05 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

Ok. First of all. It doesn't matter what color it's in...red doesn't hurt anyone's eyes.


Second, this thread was started because a person in legacy mistakenly thought Phi was townswapping, but that's obviously not true. I not even going to bother to explain it again.

This topic since then has gone way off topic, with people all of a sudden talking about Phi farming...and I'm basically the only one on phi doing any farming (because I just came back, duh.), and also random people are jumping in, trying to make themselves look smart, by taking things out of context and trying to interpret it in their own way. Please stop.

The topic was started because legacy mistakenly thought Phi was town swapping. It was proven wrong. Topic over. Lock please?

23:24:48 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

Just a side note: I checked the city I took. Aww...town swapping? No.

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23:39:57 Nov 9th 07 - Mr. Tommy Chong:

                   




23:53:57 Nov 9th 07 - Dreadlord Noiralav:

IŽd like to hear more about that "beetle hardened respect" tbh.

 

As for PHI, cmon everybody knows they do whatever they have to to achieve certain goals. I wouldnt put it past them to trade towns amongst themselves or with MAD.


00:06:15 Nov 10th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

UHmmm.....you might want to re-read Val.....its says battle hardened^^

And theres alot of posts being deleted:(


03:22:42 Nov 10th 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

ABuse of powers i say. there should be done somthing about it.but we cant do anything we need the help of our dear god Zeta.


03:30:23 Nov 10th 07 - Mr. Architect:

Where exactly was this proven wrong?  No one has put forth any evidence that it did not happen.  All I see if a screen shot stating very obviously what you say is not happening.  How was this proven wrong again?

Again the only reason Carnage was not all over MAD is because PHI was begging of us not to attack them so that they would not have to face LGC.  As as favor to them we did not attack, therefore we were denied war spoils.  And, after this happened, they erected Blockers keeping us away from MAD so that they would not have to face the big bad LGC machine, and, thus again denying us our war spoils.  Carnage has alot more to do with this than you are giving us credit for.


03:40:33 Nov 10th 07 - Mr. Sean Elderson:

@ Architect.  Word...


04:14:09 Nov 10th 07 - Mr. Gothrim:

Architect wrote: "If anyone can logically explain to me how you jumped up 10% on us (Carnage) and then dropped 4% all within like 12 hours, while we are only gaining land and troops, while loosing nothing and you are supposedly at a stalemate, then I MIGHT reconsider my thoughts, but until you can explain this to me, you are town swapping."

The effect probably occurred when Kibayaki Sena woke up that morning and decided to train a handful more troops. A "handful" by his standards is probably like a couple hundred level 3's, lol. You do know who he is, don't you? Indeed, it isn't just him. Quite some few of our top people could pull a stunt like that. They are very good players. There are eras named after some few of them. More than one is up to 2 million/tick ahead of me and I'm not such a bad dwarf myself. I've been learning a lot.

As for your other comments, you do know that gaining land doesn't up your score all that much, don't you? In fact it can lower your score temporarly since your troop costs rise, usually before you've fixed up fully exploiting your conquests. Meanwhile, if you're at war then, even if you aren't losing troops, at the very least you have them on the march, and thus costing money.

Now just to confirm a few things. When Carnage warred MAD at the beginning, MAD fought them off--Carnage had only one guy there, really, and very far from home. All Phi did was build blockers to keep more Carnage forces away from MAD.

This was written to me:

Mr. Wolf Spider [Havoc] (10/26/2007 11:33:43 PM) GOOD BAD
If you want another armory, you may take Axes and Saws. I threw all my troops at MAD and lost. =P

I didn't expect anything else. On the bright side, my army upkeep dropped +40k after getting ride of all those gaia. =P

This offer is for anyone of PHI....except perhaps Zerocool. He was so rude to us earlier. >.<

I'll hang onto Atsarga and see if MAD forgets about that city. All it has in it is GTs. XD IF they do end up going after it, go ahead and take it before they do. =P
[end quote]

So as you can see, Wolf Spider was offering me a former MAD city, while admitting that MAD had defeated him. In actual fact, MAD took both those cities back.

As for the other complaints that we were town-swopping, the pictures Legacy posted in the earlier thread showed MAD prepping on Phi towns and Phi prepping on MAD towns in order to burn down those towns. This was done to clear space for the new wall.

That wall is manned by us. In fact, both the major northern walls are manned by us so as to protect MAD from Legacy, Dark Blood and FF.

Finally, one of the people in MAD who lost his mine burned down to make room for the wall wrote me a bit. Here is part of it (part only):

Mr. Fraser [SBL] (10/28/2007 4:00:43 AM) GOOD BAD
hey, i got told by Mr. Zerocool The Berserker to raize your city. im just letting you know...
You (10/28/2007 5:33:47 AM)
Very well, I'm moving out now. It's still building troops, unfortunately, but not a lot.
Mr. Fraser [SBL] (10/28/2007 5:36:40 AM) GOOD BAD
i can give u maybe a few ticks if you need but i think it needs to be raized so a wall can be build... i think thats whats going to happen? lol im going to be loosing my only mine, so il be on minus gold pretty soon. tell me when i can destroy it... il be there in 1 tick
You (10/28/2007 5:42:08 AM)
No, destroy it as soon as you can! It shouldn't be a problem as I'm moving out all it's trained so far. I just meant you might take some small few casualties from the few troops it might still build. Nothing much I can do as i'll be offline soon.

...oh and just be careful to click on Fort Argonath and not Argonath Militia, lol. j/k ;)

Mr. Fraser [SBL] (10/28/2007 6:05:26 AM) GOOD BAD
destroyed... thanks for taking the troops out :)

[end quote]

Anyhow, he was one of those whose chances got pretty much wrecked when their part of the land got razed for the wall. So these guys talked among themselves and decided to form a new kd, as I understand it. They were not kicked by MAD but resigned, and I believe the idea at some point was that they would restart on another world. I don't know how successful they were at that and I suspect they may have bounced back onto Fant because the last hadn't left yet or some such.

Finally, Gwn (Guner) is an old Phi player from long before my time, about 6 eras, he said. He's always played for Phi and his name has always been Gwn. But he'd been getting less active the last while and was kicked for being awol for 2 weeks, no less. That was his starter mine.

That's it folks. Legacy is making a lot of noise 'cause they're outclassed. It's still possible we could lose against all of Legacy, DB and FF, of course. But Legacy themselves don't cut it against these guys I'm with now.


04:36:43 Nov 10th 07 - Mr. Might:

LGC/DB/FF all the way!


05:03:37 Nov 10th 07 - Lord Software Bug:

Couple hundred of level 3s? I do hope there is a typo there, as I usually train a couple of hundred of nazzies.


05:07:55 Nov 10th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

Oh boy.....where to even begin with this....

<The effect probably occurred when Kibayaki Sena woke up that morning and decided to train a handful more troops. A "handful" by his standards is probably like a couple hundred level 3's, lol. You do know who he is, don't you? Indeed, it isn't just him. Quite some few of our top people could pull a stunt like that. They are very good players. There are eras named after some few of them. More than one is up to 2 million/tick ahead of me and I'm not such a bad dwarf myself. I've been learning a lot.>

 

Annnddd......your point is? Right....gotcha...you felt the need to brag? Not impressive. For starters, its no secret that the agent smith crowd is in Phi. So your point then would be that Phi has alot of good players? Okaaayyy....but so does legacy, db, carnage, even zeon and ff.....so i dont really see what the use of this post was ( i know i know, you were poitning out the change in %, but still....could have chosen a better argument like Legend)

 

But I do like your careful selection of pm's regarding our brief conflict with the mad guys. You seem to be portraying it as one carnage player being whipped by mad and we backed down immediately......hmmmmm.....should i bring out these saved convos with mavich, zerocool, etc.... that certainly portrays a different picture?

Nah. Im too lazy......and i respect mavich too much....

Heh and we're not to far way now from the eastern side now.....we're cooommmiiinnnggg...........


05:35:46 Nov 10th 07 - Sir Patton:

Jeez Stormy, I didn't realise you were such a screamer. Nor did I really want to know.


05:39:16 Nov 10th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

awwww come on Fiz.....you know you liked it....

you know what they say....once you go....wait.....that doesnt work.....never mind......


05:53:48 Nov 10th 07 - Mr. Ignis Bored And Back:

Uh Architect.

This thread was proven wrong the second Phi explained the inactive part of the story. (AKA the only true part) That was legacy's only evidence, which actually backfired on them because by posting this they proved Phi once again is not townswapping. But there are still an awful lot of people that pop in this thread...just for fun and go...

"Yup. Phi. Those losers. Town swappers. " with no evidence.

Anything else about earlier era I've heard has been talked about before, and again, no evidence at all, just wide speculation on legacy's part.

Ms. Dung Beetle, his point was that a couple "hundred" (he meant hundred thousand, obviously) being trained all of a sudden, can greatly screw with the rankings formula, leading to the change. It's not important if he was bragging or not, seriously, it's not relevant.



05:54:11 Nov 10th 07 - Mr. Titty Titty Bang Bang:

WTF who gave these *beep*s license to post in the forums.

LOLLOL ROFLURPIMPLESONTHEBACKSIDEOFVU


06:27:28 Nov 10th 07 - Ms. Dung Beetle:

Uhmmm....just because you dont see something as important does not mean you can assume that everyone else feels the same way mate....

and i did get his point, as evidenced by my saying that he was referring to the % change.....

Beauty of these forums is I can post my own observations, regardless of how irrelevant some may see them.....


07:09:53 Nov 10th 07 - Mr. Sean Elderson:

I find this interesting.

Mr. Fraser [SBL] (10/28/2007 4:00:43 AM) GOOD BAD
hey, i got told by Mr. Zerocool The Berserker to raize your city. im just letting you know...
You (10/28/2007 5:33:47 AM)
Very well, I'm moving out now. It's still building troops, unfortunately, but not a lot.

Apparently Zercool calls the shots in more than one KD.


07:14:12 Nov 10th 07 - Duke Epyon:

wth is SBL?


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