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Public Apology
23:11:26 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Ptah:

I'd like to Apologise to Lewatha

I would also like to say to members of Retribution

I am also sorry, for leaving Last era on terms of 'Quiting' Fantasia due to inactivity
I am still pretty Inactive yes, 2 hours a day max
I enjoyed my time in Retribution, but Aurora/Godlike is more my style of play from what I've found

I can only Apologise, Especially to Lewatha
Who I have always found to be a nice and genuine person

Much Like 'Friends' I had in Ret
Bran, Killstone  Even Osi at times , etc

No one has asked me to Apologise
I feel its nesercery
I feel like *beep* for doing it in all

I hope You will forgive me for my actions
As Aurora I hope you will

I once again Apologise

~ Revenge

I am Expecting Heavly Flamidge, I deserve it


23:20:38 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Linetwist:

asswipe!


23:22:15 Jan 21st 09 - Dark Lord Finwe:

your not even worth the flaming (but i will do so anyway)

basically you lied to all of us and continued to lie all era.
you then pretty much take the piss our of lewatha AFTER we had a traitor (real smooth btw)
and then continue to tell everyone how you humiliated her.
then you go to other kd chans and tell everyone how aurora is a warring kd and suits you etc implying all we do is farm and mass nap.  then you have the balls to use ME deleting sp@m as a reason? seriously your an idi0t

so pretty much your apology looks fake and forced on you by rora. you shouldnt even have botherd posting.


23:48:53 Jan 21st 09 - Mr. Barney:

You would post this without being forced to? You sure aurora didnt make you?

 

At any rate, I have only ever seen you in VU this era when you took my razed mines, so I don't really care. Best of luck to you!


00:00:57 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Bran:

i think youll be lucky if she does accept this apology, thats if you actually do want her to...


00:01:13 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Erebus:

 why are we known as Aurora? that was just one era, and it was quite possibly the crappiest banner we've had   xD  I think there was a whole thread dedicated to flaming it for awhile...


00:04:01 Jan 22nd 09 - Dark Lord Finwe:

because godlike *beep*s is a terrible name :D could call you elements if you like :p


00:05:10 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Erebus:

 but you have to admit, our banner this era is awesomeness :)    might have something to do with me making it.... :D


01:11:03 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Sleepyhead:

Dark Lord Finwe

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1/22/2009 6:22:15 AM

your not even worth the flaming (but i will do so anyway)

basically you lied to all of us and continued to lie all era.
you then pretty much take the piss our of lewatha AFTER we had a traitor (real smooth btw)
and then continue to tell everyone how you humiliated her.
then you go to other kd chans and tell everyone how aurora is a warring kd and suits you etc implying all we do is farm and mass nap.  then you have the balls to use ME deleting sp@m as a reason? seriously your an idi0t

so pretty much your apology looks fake and forced on you by rora. you shouldnt even have botherd posting.


i seem to agree. exactly what he did to us in PHI eras ago. a lot of lies, betrayal, and lying to other kds that we want to war them, etc, when we had no intention to..

one hell of a lier if you ask me.



01:11:41 Jan 22nd 09 - Monarch Vampire Queen:

yes your banner is great

change the name


01:17:05 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Erebus:

  But then we'd have to change all our names :(     I guess we could just shorten it to "Godlike"  but that just seems arrogant.


01:17:59 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Caradoc:

hey man, id like to say its ok to lie. its great to be a traitor sometimes. its even fun too. someone has to do it, your the perfect fit. so congratulations. i wish i had the balls to do it too!


01:22:05 Jan 22nd 09 - Prince Valan Septim:

You're *beep*ming before you left was teh suckage. So I'll flame you too!

*pulls out his flamethrower*

Die multi of Vengence!

*burns yo @$$*


01:23:36 Jan 22nd 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

Mr. Erebus

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1/21/2009 8:17:05 PM
  But then we'd have to change all our names :(     I guess we could just shorten it to "Godlike"  but that just seems arrogant.

Godlike was used in the past...


01:29:35 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Erebus:

 that too ^


02:19:22 Jan 22nd 09 - Saint Tuff Nuff:

how about 'godlike beeps'


02:23:07 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Frankie:

isnt this like the second or third time he has apologized?


03:29:56 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Righthand of Onuris:

Looks like we have no choice but to make an official kingdom statement on this matter:

1. Revenge's apology was NOT forced by Nubs. As a matter of fact, at the time of his apology, only 2 vices were aware of what had happened: myself and Erebus. We had a topic on this matter posted in our council thread, and the leadership was starting to discuss this matter, and granted, we probably would have forced an apology from Revenge too, at the very least. Revenge however, took his own initiative to apologise, and went one step further by issuing a public apology, and took this part of the matter out of our hands.

2. Revenge's personal actions against Lewatha and Retribution are merely that... his personal actions. Whatever statements he has made in his personal capacity are not official statements or positions of the Nubs.

3. Throughout this era, the Nubs had only two official positions on Revenge: firstly, that he is a new addition to our kingdom this era, and secondly, that we are to keep silent as to his real identity as per his request to us. The Nubs have always maintained their official position of silence on Revenge being with us... if  not asked, we do not tell. Other than this, Revenge was never asked to be a spy or information stealer for the Nubs. We made it very clear from the outset that we will compete against Retribution on our own merits and capabilities.

4. With regard to the Nubs' position with Retribution, whatever Revenge says does not reflect the Nubs' opinion or outlook on the relationship with Retribution. Us Nubs treat our relationships very seriously; we are happy with the mutual benefits and defence that our relationship with Retribution has brought, and most importantly, most of us here in Nubs have a healthy respect for Retribution, for their leadership, and for their calibre as players and as a kingdom.

5. Thus, us Nubs also understand that Revenge's actions have, in a manner, reflected on the image of our kingdom and compromised our credibility. Frankly, if I was in Lewatha's or Retribution's position, I would also be very upset at being deceived, and I would also have a negative perception against Nubs. Not to mentioin that it may also affect future relationships between both our kingdoms. It also goes against our policy of sportsmanship in this game. That is why, the leadership in Nubs will discuss what action to take with Revenge in relation to this matter... how hard a slap on the wrist we will give him.

6. Nonetheless however, Revenge is a member of the Nubs and our comrade in arms. The Nubs always take care of and stick by their members, unless they have committed a truly unforgiveable act. Thus, we would most appreciate if we can be allowed to resolve this matter internally with him.

On this note, I would like to make a direct statement to Retribution and most especially, to Lewatha, on behalf of the Nubs. If Revenge's actions have, in anyway, jeorpadised the standing of our relationship, or caused any upset or unhappiness to occur with the Nubs, then we most sincerely and humbly apologise for his actions and on his behalf. We hope that Revenge and this episode can be forgiven and put behind us.

Thank you for your kind understanding.

TheBornLoser


03:40:59 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Erebus:

  TBL, you write long stuff  -_-,  ever considered being a lawyer?  Pretty easy, you just need to re-word stuff like this:
 
     The actions and opinions expressed by this nub and all other nubs are their opinion and do not reflect on Godlike nubs as an organization, or any second and third part affiliates. Godlike nubs and co., as well as all second and third party affiliates, are not held liable for actions by said nub, which include but are not limited to: Death, destruction, irreversible or temporary mental or physical handicaps and suffering, property damage, death of family members and friends, irreversible or temporary mental or physical handicaps and suffering of family members and friends, and damage of or pertaining to the soul or religious values traditional and individually upheld.

         That's the new liability agreement you must sign before joining our kingdom :) 


03:55:52 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Righthand of Onuris:

Now that the official kingdom statement has been posted, I want to share some of my own personal thoughts as well.

1. Revenge pulled a cheap shot. That cannot be denied. At this stage, he has probably exhausted all his credibility and trust with Retribution, and with alot of outsiders too. He has also dented the credibility and reputation of his kingdom. That is the price for his mistake.

2. However, despite his actions being a cheap shot, they are not as cheap as the stunts pulled by Inchalion and Alban this era on Fate and Retribution respectively. Revenge's actions were more an act of temporary stupidity / insanity rather than an act of true malice and betrayal... the genuine desire to backstab and hurt a kingdom and people in the worst way possible.

3. On that part, I again, hope that people will take these whole matter in the right context, and not crucify Revenge for a greater crime than perceived. Again, while he has done something stupid, what he did does not amount to an absolute betrayal.

4. Revenge was man enough to step forward and admit his mistake. I personally think that him actually putting up a public apology took alot of courage and balls. Certainly many lesser characters would have slunk away and not faced up to the criticism, flames and punishment. For this, his actions, should, at the very least, be commended.

5. Ultimately, I hope that he learns from his mistakes and comes out from this episode a better person. Everyone is human and everyone commits mistakes. The thing that makes a difference between different people are that some would actually work hard and change for the better, while others would happily repeat their mistakes. In that, I hope, and believe, that Revenge is the former.



P.S. Revenge, you better not let me down! :P

P.S.S. Lewatha blew out half my eardrums :( I now need a replacement one :( :P

P.S.S.S. I hate being vice. Sigh... :P


04:02:50 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Righthand of Onuris:

Errr... Nic / Erebus... actually, I was formerly a lawyer :P I was a corporate litigation / commercial crimes lawyer for several years, and was actually one of the best of my junior batch in my country :P Unfortunately, I threw it all away for a life of business... :P


04:07:32 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Erebus:

  I KNEW IT!!!!!!     xD


05:27:07 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Sloth:

Revenge in however many eras you were in Abydos or later Retribution last era  you were about as useful as a slug, now in Aurora I see things from you like, more than 2 cities, and actual armies walking around and you even have a few blockers. I guess either you're learning how to play, or you're spending nearly as much time playing VU as *beep*ming the forums, or you really didn't like us and couldn't be bothered before? I guess this is a half compliment half wtf.. oh well.


05:52:23 Jan 22nd 09 - Duke Slade The Drunk:

O_o WTF..... i feel abused... you had to make me wait to restart to take in another member(CBF waiting)... but you let Rev in like that >.<

 

not cool.. and i was told i could join >.< last era


06:44:49 Jan 22nd 09 - Prince Mielo:

I told you before slade, what the reason of all this is :) ...


07:24:03 Jan 22nd 09 - Duke Slade The Drunk:

:(


07:30:33 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Messiah:

Slade, Trogdar told u you could join. Then he left VU.
Then you show up the day after era started and want to join.
We just didnt have room.


08:05:58 Jan 22nd 09 - Duke Slade The Drunk:

lol... your king said i could join >.<


08:13:19 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Ptah:

Alright, Here we go

I left Retribution at the end of last Era, as I thought I'd like to try a fresh start
I knew if I had told you guys I was joining Aurora you would have Flipped out
And dont deny it,  you would have

I am 'Upset' in a sense it came out right now
I was going to tell Retribution at the end of this era, that I had played in Aurora this era

Im not really a Traitor, I havent left my kingdom and attacked Retribution with armies etc [ Though In a sense I am a traitor ]
I believe the main reason why you guys are annoyed is at the 'Lulz' thread which Popped into the hangaround thread last night

Im not sure why on earth I decided to post it in Priv forums for one, it came out I had posted it in Hangaround on Public view with Info about Retribution Merges Sizes, postitions
Which Lew told me on MIRC

Im not saying in anyway Retribution plays in a sense of 'Mass NaP and whoring '
At all, I found Retribution, the set up very rigid and Army movements etc very Boring to be honest, Maybe it was the fact I wasn't playing well at all and I couldnt keep up
I did grow bored of this game, which Is the main reason I joined A completly different kingdom
I like the Leadership in Aurora [ Im not saying I didn't like Ret's ]
I like the set up
And the fact that their are more Loose Cannons than just I, which makes for interesting accorences
Maybe Im just being stupid with the differences etc, But I feel Aurora is more of a Home to me than Retribution was, time will tell

Zerocool - You dont know who I am obviously, as Ive never been in PHI, so Zip it ? :)

People - No, No one asked me or forced me to apologise at all, I felt it was needed after my stupidity

Bran - I hope she accepts this, though my expectations are somewhat Slim

Mr. Sloth

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1/22/2009 5:27:07 AM
Revenge in however many eras you were in Abydos or later Retribution last era  you were about as useful as a slug, now in Aurora I see things from you like, more than 2 cities, and actual armies walking around and you even have a few blockers. I guess either you're learning how to play, or you're spending nearly as much time playing VU as *beep*ming the forums, or you really didn't like us and couldn't be bothered before? I guess this is a half compliment half wtf.. oh well.

I played in Aby for Half an era in 33 I think , Abydos's last era
And thereafter 3 in Ret

I never really got going in any of those Eras tbh
Very poor eras indeed, but thats no excuse ofc
This era I started well and had some fun, taking quite a few cities here and there
I dont think the point is More time playing VU, just in the past few eras after poor starts, I kind of lost interest completly
Which isnt the right attitude I know..

Again to Lew and Retribution in All
And to Aurora with my shoddiness have shoddinizzed [ A word? ]
Relations and Good will

I am Sorry

~ Revenge


08:13:27 Jan 22nd 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

Topic please...this isn't a "complain about why I wasn't accepted into a KD" thread...@Slade


08:30:56 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Sleepyhead:

if you were never in phi then you are not the  "Ptah" i know.. or you are just a copy of that person or vice versa. you used his name, and did what he did almost exactly what he did. Ptah in that time also claimed as transporter. 

he was a member of holy and  DB.


11:31:25 Jan 22nd 09 - Ms. Freyja:

Mr Sleepyhead: The Godlike Nubs consist of ancient gods mostly from mediterrianan and northern europe. I believe the Ptah you formely knew just used the same inspiration. You can't claim someone stole a name that is that widespread - atleast not if the player aint wellknown.

Anyway I do understand that RET are upset. But come on calling Ptah/revenge a traiter for changing KD without informing you? I agree its unhonorble to do a kd swap like that but its hardly traitorous.


11:51:11 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Sleepyhead:

if he isnt the same person, then i apologies.


12:00:46 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Perkunas:

Duke Slade The Drunk Report 1/22/2009 9:05:58 AM lol... your king said i could join >.< sorz slade but you couldnt join even if trogdar would let you in i still would have kicked you :)


12:04:33 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Perkunas:

i just have to say revenge wanted to join us long time ago :) now he finnaly got the chance and he used it :) as sloth said revenge didnt do anything good in ret ;) so you dont need to be upset that he left , but again he did a *beep*ed thing i said that he wouldnt talk in forums


14:33:32 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Hirgon Sadron:

Someone switches kingdoms between eras once because the kingdom in which they are doesn't fit them, and they have to apologize for it, and is afraid of getting flamed for it?  What, are you guys insulted because he doesn't ask you to hold his hand when he crosses the street anymore?  Where he plays is his business, and if he chooses not to tell you, in my mind it says more about the atmosphere you've created in your kingdom than it does about Revenge as a person (whatever that means).  If you're upset about him switching - or switching without telling you, take a step back and think about it - what is it that YOU have done to make him feel as though you would not "let" him leave?  What is it that YOU have done to make not trust you enough to tell you?  There's room for "personal growth" on more than one front here...

*wonders why the heck he plays these silly games anymore*


14:40:09 Jan 22nd 09 - Prince Mielo:

also claimed as transporter. 

he was a member of holy and  DB.

ah yeah, the good ole' days :) I think he did do something wrong to us back then ... I just can't seem to remember.


15:18:46 Jan 22nd 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

Slade....shut the hell up and get on topic. 

Hirgon, there is more to it than that. 
Mr. Ptah

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1/22/2009 3:13:19 AM

I believe the main reason why you guys are annoyed is at the 'Lulz' thread which Popped into the hangaround thread last night

Im not sure why on earth I decided to post it in Priv forums for one, it came out I had posted it in Hangaround on Public view with Info about Retribution Merges Sizes, postitions
Which Lew told me on MIRC


16:08:47 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Wilberforce Pwner:

Rev, its right you admitted who you are and for that I respect you.

My opinion is that:
Of course what you did was wrong, lieing to friends or whatever shouldn't be done! However, kd hopping end of era is hardly a crime so you should of just told them. Like I said, least you've admitted it and publically apologised.


16:09:12 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Frankie:

I give you props Revenge. It takes a sh1t load of guts to publicly apologize here to take all this from other people. I agree what you did was stupid. And as long as ive known you and disliked you i respect you more now for coming out publicly and apologizing.


16:12:46 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Bran:

how does it take balls to make a post in a forum? any old pussy can do it


16:18:56 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Shmeh:

nah your wrong bran


16:24:36 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Stirlin:


Sir Bran

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1/22/2009 4:12:46 PM
how does it take balls to make a post in a forum? any old pussy can do it

too right!


16:25:38 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Shmeh:

oh id best add that i dont support what he did or think that it is alright, i just think that it did take courage to do that


16:52:49 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Erebus:

 so now we're arguing whether or not revenge is a girl?  0_o

how does it take balls to make a post in a forum? any old pussy can do it

nah your wrong bran


16:59:50 Jan 22nd 09 - Mr. Righthand of Onuris:

I have seen alot of people doing alot of *beep*ic / stupid / malicious / bad things, but I have seen very very few public apologies in my VU life here.


17:12:33 Jan 22nd 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

Alright, Here we go

I left Retribution at the end of last Era, as I thought I'd like to try a fresh start
I knew if I had told you guys I was joining Aurora you would have Flipped out
And dont deny it,  you would have
--> you know damn well I wouldn't have flipped, Osi might have flipped, but I would just try to keep you with us and if it'd be impossible, I'd just accept it. Exactly what I did when 1/4th of RET joined fusion in our second era. I tried keeping them, they didn't listen, so I just accepted it.

Im not sure why on earth I decided to post it in Priv forums for one, it came out I had posted it in Hangaround on Public view with Info about Retribution Merges Sizes, postitions
Which Lew told me on MIRC
--> and I'll keep mad at you for that, I really will remain mad about that for multiple era's. I even asked you if I could trust you with the info.

My second last comment = Even after I busted you, even after I learned to know you were Ptah, you still kept saying you weren't. You even tried telling me I had been drinking too much and asked me if I were on drugs.

My last comment is a positive one (after 3 negative ones) I do believe you've made this thread because you're truely sorry. and I appreciate that, however it will not make me less angry. You'll remain the only person on my ignore list on irc. and will probably be there for multiple era's. You have mis-used my trust, and made yourself a valuable foe.


17:24:54 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Wilberforce Pwner:

Bran + Stirlin, TBL just said the exact thing I would of replied to you.

Thanks TBL
*wonders why he hasn't argued with TBL for a few RL days*


18:29:26 Jan 22nd 09 - Sir Justanius Fontainius:

ptah is revenge?


18:31:45 Jan 22nd 09 - Duke Michael Deallus:

Read it and then ask that again...to yourself


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