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TDE Traitorous Scumbags
16:30:17 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

Right after we had made a truce, the dark empire attacked us without warning. There excuse, was, that one of our members took one of his cities. But our member took the city before we had made the pact...


16:30:27 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

Flame on


17:43:41 May 14th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/14/2009 12:49:50 PM) GOOD BAD
what the f did you just do? I thought we we had a NAP.
You (5/14/2009 12:52:39 PM)
I thought so too. Until your KD took two of my KD's cities. I then messaged your leader and this was his response.

You (5/13/2009 9:43:54 AM)
Why is Gawaine still attacking me even though we are CF'd?
General Zondervan [LD] (5/14/2009 12:16:12 AM) GOOD BAD
no idea.

No attempt to stop the problem.

So i messaged gawaine.

You (5/13/2009 9:42:44 AM)
Why are you attacking us when we are CF'dMr. Gawaine [LD] (5/13/2009 10:13:12 PM) GOOD BAD
Took the base before we established the CF. If you would like to further pursue this, reach an agreement with the leaders, although I am a diplomat.
Mr. Gawaine [LD] (5/14/2009 12:52:17 AM) GOOD BAD
I would also recommend that you don't try to fight us by attacking me. I'm going to station plenty of troops in all my bases, in fact, atm each one has enough to hold off large numbers of troops. So I recommend if you don't want me to redirect my 100-200k army on you, then you just wait. Since it's almost the end of the era anyways....

Which were all lies as he took it the next day so i decided it was pointless if he is a diplomat and this is the skill level of your kd diplomats
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/14/2009 12:58:51 PM) GOOD BAD
I want record of this. And i think it was wrong of you also to take my cities with out notifying me that we had broken the cease fire. that city coasted 6 mill to build.
You (5/14/2009 4:32:52 PM)
If your KD had not attacked me and continuied plundering and killed 2K cata of mine i would not of attacked you or anyone else.

I notified your leader that he had broken the CF. he seemed un alerted by this development. it was clear to me he did not care either way.

I explained it to you twice....... anyone with intelligence will not flame. We had the city til a day after you CF''d us so do not lie and what about this then.

09:14:28: Death lead by Gawaine attacked and took over Smashin. Our peasants managed to escape with all the resources to Blah. We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Archers, 0 Knights, 0 Magicians, 0 Catapults and 0 peasants in the battle.

This was when i decided it was pointless. this was 3 ticks before you messaged me claiming you had not attacked us.


18:46:44 May 14th 09 - Archangel Argyle:

Flames are hot, if you do it wrong you will burn your finger.


18:47:58 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

hehe, yup.

I am still awaiting a reply from Gawaine


19:15:41 May 14th 09 - Sir Santa:

Can anyone show us the message in which they agreed to the CF with the time ánd the notification of the first attack?


19:31:47 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/11/2009 5:10:20 PM) GOOD BAD
will do


this is when he agreed to the Cease Fire, and that is when i sent out messages to the kingdom stating the we had a Cease Fire.


19:33:32 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

It may be us however that are Traitorous Scumbags :D

I am still waiting for Gawaine's reply



GOOD BAD


19:41:21 May 14th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 7:02:47 PM) GOOD BAD
thats not a good idea.
You (5/11/2009 7:08:48 PM)
your attacking the cities i am trying to take. withdraw from there and i withdraw from here.
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 7:11:04 PM) GOOD BAD
or how about i just destroy your army?
You (5/11/2009 7:14:06 PM)
how about you dont :P i could just wreck your city if you want? I raze if you attac my army
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 7:29:43 PM) GOOD BAD
alright, I guess thats fair. Leave my city alone and i will leave your armies and cities alone. Consider this a personal truce. If i were you, i would not decline this personal Cease Fire.
You (5/11/2009 7:31:26 PM)
I accept. I just hope you are a man of your word.
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 7:32:53 PM) GOOD BAD
You are in the presence of a man of honor. I always keep my word, and every agreement that i deem reasonable.
You (5/11/2009 7:34:08 PM)
I see your a vice.......any chance of you trying to extend it to your whole KD lol
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 7:38:36 PM) GOOD BAD
This offer is far reaching. Unless you offer some sort of gift, i do not see this discussion going any farther. I have no idea however how you might be able to serve us. But that is in your hands now. If you can convince me, then i will discuss this with my leaders.

If you have nothing in mind, then I have a few things that I can suggest.
You (5/11/2009 10:48:11 PM)
Like?
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 10:51:03 PM) GOOD BAD
try to be more supportive in my kingdom page in the politics page...

I will inform our leaders that you are asking for a cease fire now, as soon as you agree to change your mind about the kingdom i am going to build.

Please feel free to post something you think will be productive for my success next era. I would like it if you could think of something creative...


-Paracelzus
You (5/11/2009 11:01:47 PM)
Merging your KD with mine would be creative :D
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 11:05:30 PM) GOOD BAD
that is in our best interests right now, i am sorry. Lets just stick to the original plan.
You (5/11/2009 11:08:19 PM)
lol whic was?
You (5/11/2009 11:10:20 PM)
will do
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 11:08:55 PM) GOOD BAD
try to be more supportive in my kingdom page in the politics page...

I will inform our leaders that you are asking for a cease fire now, as soon as you agree to change your mind about the kingdom i am going to build.

Please feel free to post something you think will be productive for my success next era. I would like it if you could think of something creative...


-Paracelzus
Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 11:11:41 PM) GOOD BAD
thanks!

The CF was formed then


19:48:45 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

that was the same thin i posted

you said Will do

as in, ok


19:49:19 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

what is the point in repeating what i had already posted?


19:53:45 May 14th 09 - Sir Santa:

Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 7:32:53 PM) GOOD BAD
You are in the presence of a man of honor. I always keep my word, and every agreement that i deem reasonable.

AND

Mr. Paracelzus [LD] (5/11/2009 11:08:55 PM) GOOD BAD
try to be more supportive in my kingdom page in the politics page...

I will inform our leaders that you are asking for a cease fire now, as soon as you agree to change your mind about the kingdom i am going to build.

Please feel free to post something you think will be productive for my success next era. I would like it if you could think of something creative...


Do not go very well together. What is honour without honesty..?


20:03:19 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

what do you mean? everything comes with a price Santa. I had done nothing before hand and Corollin started to prep on my city. I was simply moving my army to take out a city that was not part of a kingdom, and corollin moved upon my city and started to prep. and i sent me that message.

Since i didn't have any armories up there, i could not put up a formidable defense for someone even that week.

That was why a truce was going to come with a price. Asking for advice and support is not a hard thing to do santa. Obveasly there are no claims against my bad leadership. So corollin and other people were false to assume that my kingdom was a "fail". So therefore i wanted the debt paid for littering my kingdom page with crap.



It was Corollin who attacked MY city after gawaine attacked (which i am still not sure he did), and he attacked my army. Before he even said ANYTHING about us breaking truce.

And tell me again what honesty has to do with me "not" being honourable?



20:16:51 May 14th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

Paracelzus. Read the times i messaged. I told Gawaine and Your KD leader that your Kd had broken the truce.
i told them the day before i took your city. them not telling you is not my fault. I have *beep*ligation to message all vices or the whole KD saying it has been broken.


20:20:25 May 14th 09 - Mr. Shogun:

i can take all of your cities, if that will solve the prob :p


20:21:00 May 14th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

who me?


20:27:47 May 14th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

well, since i was responsible about this truce, i was the person you should have pm'ed.

i don't know why Zonder didn't tell anyone about this. But i carry most of the responsibilities in LD.

I don't know what there is to discus here anymore. Unless you have some other point to debate i am finished here. Zondervan can take care of the rest.


20:57:37 May 14th 09 - Sir Thomaas:

It is reguler to mail the leader, unless the kd info says to post someone else


21:00:39 May 14th 09 - Sir Santa:

Yes, lets take Rebirth for example. It states clearly that Thomaas is their diplomate so he should be contacted. I see no fault in Kath contacting Zondervan.

And what I ment about honour and honesty was that you call yourself a man of honour(can be true, I dont know you) but what is it worth being honourable when you're not being honest?(referring to you wanting Kath to change his opinion on the forum in exchange for the CF)


03:49:31 May 15th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

[19:01] Mr. Paracelzus: did you use to own Fallen Timbers?
[19:08] Mr. Duneidinaman: I want to talk with you...
[19:08] Mr. Paracelzus: did you use to own fallen timbers?
[19:08] Mr. Paracelzus: sure
[19:08] Mr. Paracelzus: i am all ears
[19:08] Mr. Duneidinaman: yes
[19:08] Mr. Duneidinaman: it was for armouries
[19:08] Mr. Paracelzus: ok
[19:08] Mr. Paracelzus: thanks
[19:25] Mr. Duneidinaman: I learned something in the process
[19:25] Mr. Duneidinaman: your are most welcome
[19:25] Mr. Paracelzus: did you make sure you copied ALL of the news?
[19:26] Mr. Paracelzus: like from the beginning of when you started?
[19:27] Mr. Duneidinaman: started from the top at 1 days ago
[19:27] Mr. Paracelzus: so you started yesterday?
[19:28] Mr. Duneidinaman: yes. I don't have fallen timbers on it
[19:28] Mr. Paracelzus: do you know why?
[19:28] Mr. Duneidinaman: I get tired of all the paragraphs on it and delete it
[19:29] Mr. Paracelzus: oo ok... well that sucks
[19:29] Mr. Paracelzus: sorry i have been bothering you this whole time
[19:29] Mr. Duneidinaman: I am sorry that I didn't get want you wanted
[19:29] Mr. Duneidinaman: like i said I learned something.
[19:30] Mr. Duneidinaman: I see gawaine did take fallen timbers
[19:30] Mr. Duneidinaman: like you said
[19:30] Mr. Paracelzus: why didn't you know of this before?
[19:31] Mr. Duneidinaman: I didn't check it. I was too busy reading and typing
[19:31] Mr. Duneidinaman: my bad :(
[19:31] Mr. Paracelzus: oh ok
[19:32] Mr. Duneidinaman: I do know he took the city with ease
[19:32] Mr. Paracelzus: lol, yeah, we all make mistakes sometime
[19:32] Mr. Duneidinaman: I make more than I would like too
[19:32] Mr. Duneidinaman: humbling
[19:33] Mr. Duneidinaman: did you want to know how many soldiers he had?
[19:34] Mr. Paracelzus: nah, i was just wondering when exactly he took your city
[19:34] Mr. Paracelzus: or just the estimated time
[19:35] Mr. Paracelzus: like then did you find it missing? today? yesterday?
[19:35] Mr. Paracelzus: two days ago?
[19:35] Mr. Duneidinaman: yeah 2 days ago
[19:36] Mr. Paracelzus: are you absolutly sure?
[19:36] Mr. Duneidinaman: actually it seems to be about Monday
[19:36] Mr. Duneidinaman: I remember
[19:37] Mr. Duneidinaman: My leader told me we had a cease fire with ld
[19:37] Mr. Duneidinaman: the day he sent me the message I was like really!!
[19:38] Mr. Paracelzus: so it was taken after the cease fire? or before
[19:38] Mr. Duneidinaman: because gawine took my city that day or the night before
[19:38] Mr. Duneidinaman: well it was taken. I then I got the message from my leader that it was a cease fire
[19:39] Mr. Paracelzus: so it was before the message from your leader
[19:39] Mr. Duneidinaman: exactly
[19:39] Mr. Paracelzus: could i have a copy of the message? I am trying to clear up a few things
[19:39] Mr. Duneidinaman: sure
[19:41] Mr. Paracelzus: ok thanks!
[19:42] Mr. Duneidinaman: they took me tuesday
[19:42] Mr. Duneidinaman: wed. I got the message
[19:42] Mr. Duneidinaman: yeah. anytime.
[19:42] Mr. Paracelzus: so they took the city tuesday, and you got the message wed..
[19:42] Mr. Duneidinaman: yes
[19:43] Mr. Paracelzus: alright, i guess i don't have to bother you anymore
[19:43] Mr. Paracelzus: lol
[19:43] Mr. Paracelzus: sorry
[19:43] Mr. Duneidinaman: don't apologize

and this was the message that Corollin sent Duneidinaman:

Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/13/2009 1:42:56 AM) GOOD BAD
we are CFF'd to LD
You (5/13/2009 6:27:37 AM)
you mean to join them
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/13/2009 7:04:47 AM) GOOD BAD
No. CF as in they can not attack us. Cease fire


I am sorry Corollin, but either you are mistaken, or you lied.

Duneidinaman said that he was attacked before the cease fire.



I have talked this conversation over with Duniedinaman, and told him the purpose of my questioning over privet messages, and he said it was alright to post this.


04:03:58 May 15th 09 - Sir Sorra:

Corolin, you prick, you have been exposed.

Dishonorable lieing snake, it's because of people like you that we have a lot of backstabbing going on these days.


04:49:48 May 15th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

he's manipulating sentences. That one that's about attacking had the subject of a city I took BEFORE the CF was established, so it was perfectly fair. Then he changed it to say I attacked their city Smashin, which I've NEVER even had troops that far north before!! He forged the attack as a horrible attempt to get me Forced out. Here's the messages I have, and you'll see they match. look at the subject, it says 'Fallen Timbers' which is the base I took from them before we had CF and they attacked me first, so I had another right:

Messages

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FromConcernsDate recivedDel
Mr. Kratos WolfArchmages14th May (22:40)
Mr. Theophilus IXTheo Coin14th May (21:37)
Mr. LazarusArchmages14th May (21:20)
Mr. Paracelzushehe14th May (20:58)
Mr. Kratos WolfWhiskey14th May (20:10)
Divine Grandmaster CorollinFallen Timbers13th May (04:42)
Sir Atomic PepperYour kingdom13th May (02:02)
Ms. MzzeryTalking6th May (19:17)

Secondly, here's the message that matches to Fallen Timbers message:

Message From Divine Grandmaster Corollin

Fallen Timbers

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Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/13/2009 4:42:44 AM) GOOD BAD
Why are you attacking us when we are CF'd
You (5/13/2009 5:13:12 PM)
Took the base before we established the CF. If you would like to further pursue this, reach an agreement with the leaders, although I am a diplomat.
You (5/13/2009 7:52:17 PM)
I would also recommend that you don't try to fight us by attacking me. I'm going to station plenty of troops in all my bases, in fact, atm each one has enough to hold off large numbers of troops. So I recommend if you don't want me to redirect my 100-200k army on you, then you just wait. Since it's almost the end of the era anyways....
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/14/2009 6:23:42 AM) GOOD BAD
If you attempt this it will be killed by rebirth
You (5/14/2009 5:35:13 PM)
Attempt what? I'm screwed anyway if my giant army fails. It'll all screw me over lol. But I'm proud, since I've only been in this era for 20 days. =P
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/14/2009 5:39:15 PM) GOOD BAD
Maybe join a better KD coff mine. we are CF'd with the invading forces. and are competent.
You (5/14/2009 5:40:22 PM)
I would, but you guys have attacked my Kingdom. I'm not going to march on y'all unless you mess with me, and I think that's adequate. If you change the picture for your kingdom, maybe next era I'll be with you. ;P
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/14/2009 5:41:19 PM) GOOD BAD
:O whats wrong with our picture?
You (5/14/2009 5:42:11 PM)
Don't like it. Make it more symbolic, instead of ppl lol.
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/14/2009 5:42:56 PM) GOOD BAD
lol next era im going back to the KD IoK i used to run. :P. our Logo was a symbol :D.
You (5/14/2009 5:43:40 PM)
I'm also thinking about restarting TAK, but my friend that used to be in it hasn't responded to me about that proposal.
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/14/2009 5:46:56 PM) GOOD BAD
TAK sucked
You (5/14/2009 5:50:12 PM)
Key part of that word was the 'ed'. The leader was too inactive and quit this game and others. We couldn't be good without a leader....
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/14/2009 5:51:30 PM) GOOD BAD
So join me. Im a good leader. TAK had a good idea but choice the wrong fights and had too much arrogance.

Also, more proof here in this message Paracelzus sent me and has already posted that says I only attacked BEFORE the ceasefire, by ONE DAY. That's a fair amount of time before, 24 turns approximately.


Corollin you're a liar and a cheater, and you framed me for something I didn't do. Quit trying to get members out of their Kingdoms for you to recruit you scumbag.


04:57:11 May 15th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

Also, more proof is, look at the 3rd post in this thread. The second word of it is "lead" which should be "led". I don't think VU would make such a basic mistake in something that happens as commonly as a battle. So he may've also forged that letter in hopes of recruiting me.


06:08:53 May 15th 09 - Ms. Doc Bolger:

I can see your banners.  I think VU grammar mistakes are not uncommon.


08:49:09 May 15th 09 - Ms. Hirragi Tsukasa:

Traitors, backstabbers, liars and...typos and wrong grammar? ... heck! VU is full of em... No real surprise there.


11:19:29 May 15th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

okay now look at this. Paracelzus look at the date i informed him of the CF. due to i admit bad leadership he was informed of the CF 2 days later then it was made. so..... it still stands that you broke it lol.

and gawaine that is the message i sent them so wtf........


14:35:59 May 15th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

Well you still have no ground on this *beep*, your member attacked me first so I retaliated. So YOUR kd broke the CF and I merely responded.


15:39:45 May 15th 09 - Sir Santa:

We have the CF on 11 may:
Divine Grandmaster Corollin [TDE] (5/11/2009 5:10:20 PM) GOOD BAD
will do

Your own words Paracelzus

And we have:
[19:42] Mr. Duneidinaman: they took me tuesday
Which is may 12. CF existed when he attacked. Corrolin was late sending the message but thats not the point of discussion here.
Its your own proof Paracelzus, and its agains you.


18:56:59 May 15th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

:D:D

Gawaine you post proof then because we know your lieing.


00:25:55 May 16th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

 you maniacle little whore corollin. I never attacked any city called Smashin and you're making fake messages you piece of crap. Seriously, you must have no life if you try to recruit people by getting them expelled from KD's greater than yours.


00:35:40 May 16th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

Corollin is a liar. I beg everyone to not believe him, since I have never attacked or owned a city called 'Smashin', when he sent a message saying I broke the CF by attacking such a city. I attacked one of their cities, but about 4 days before CF because he attacked me first. I got a message 3 days after I took it that was from corollin and it said that I was attacking when we were CF'ed, when he quite obviously said his message was 2 days late, and so 3 days after, I don't know, still a full day of ownership before confirmed CF. So he's freaking lying.


00:48:17 May 16th 09 - Mr. Paracelzus:

chill down Gawaine, it's over. arguing isn't going to solve anything anymore. just let it go...


01:19:29 May 16th 09 - General Zondervan:

from wat i understood he was attacked then the cf was made..reason he wanted it to FINALLY stay alive after dieing so many times.


02:43:38 May 16th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

zondervan..

n.o1 - you guys killed me once.

n.o2 - i CF'd before you reached my new cities so wtf.......

n.o3 *beep* urself gawaine

n.o4 - incase you didnt realize gawaine your own info on when you took the city places you taking it during the CF.


03:31:48 May 16th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

Alright, this is the last I'm saying in this conversation since you are being a r3t@rd and trying to fight against something you've already lost. I always read the KD forums before I do anything in the game involving wars, and there was NOTHING about a new relation when I looked, so you can suck it.


04:04:23 May 16th 09 - General Zondervan:

i need said we killed you more than once, so know wat ur talking about *beep*.

 

and if he attacked you before it was put in forum, so wat. then neither is traitor. sinply it didn't get put in in time. some of us do have lives beside vu..


04:08:11 May 16th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Wow same sh1t different era. Every era we either have someone new or the same people complaining about Kath. Why do we care honestly?


06:30:18 May 16th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

I'm not sure what kath is. ROFLMAO. I've heard it twice now and still no clue. XD


07:27:32 May 16th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

Gawaine equals a *beep*.

Gawaine your own KD have admitted you broke the CF before so go home.
(assuming you play from a internet cafe)

and zondervan your KD are the ones who made this thread claiming we were traitors not the other way round remember that.

and Gawaine you kinda lost the battle when your KD admitted it was you


07:37:33 May 16th 09 - Pirate Lewatha:

We all know Corollin is a liar. Why're you guys still arguing?


07:40:32 May 16th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Corollin=Kathandrion Mr. Gawaine......And i agree with Lew even though she rephrased my statment a little.


07:59:08 May 16th 09 - Sir Sorra:

lol, It seems like kath is a well known liar

Hey Justin, whats up long time no see.

Drop me a message will you


08:09:18 May 16th 09 - Mr. Justin:

haha he is getting a bad rep just like me. Except i learned from it and am trying to get rid of it :P


16:22:58 May 16th 09 - General Zondervan:

my own kd?? i do believe it says created by Mr. Paracelzus

NOT Lightning Dust...


17:07:10 May 16th 09 - Sir Santa:

So your Viceroys can not be seen as representatives of your kindom? :S


17:31:12 May 16th 09 - Mr. Gawaine:

Santa, I did not see it fit to further talk with him. I only have the power to ask/present NAP's/alliances/MPP's/MAP's to other KD's. Or wars. Plus, I don't like it when people try to fight and basically back themselves into a wall.


20:35:23 May 16th 09 - General Zondervan:

yea they can, but my kd as a whole did not decide to make it.


22:50:01 May 16th 09 - Divine Grandmaster Corollin:

Pirate Lewatha



Report


06:37:33 May 16th 09 We all know Corollin is a liar. Why're you guys still arguing?

They admitted they were wrong so *beep* off


06:56:04 May 18th 09 - Mr. Justin:

*Takes shovel out of Kaths hand* Shut up and stop burrying yourself in a freaking hole.


11:29:44 May 19th 09 - Necromancer Lechery:

.. um dont shut up... i read the whole page and its entertaining.... who needs TNT when all the drama you could ever want is right here!


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