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The Empire's Death
20:10:26 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Knife:

Coming Soon...

Yes I know they have disbanded!


20:11:36 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Eros The Pimp:

lol


20:11:57 Dec 24th 08 - Endless Delerium:

It already died  :)


20:15:53 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Crimson Xtc:

not really funny beating up new players
srry to say that but its the truth :/
Bad vets!!!!!


20:23:08 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Hirgon:

Bloody brilliant.  Instead of teaching the new players who landed on a veteran world because the admin doesn't understand the game dynamics, let's beat the crap out of them for a couple of days, and then instead of advising them  how to improve, let's brag about destroying them on the forum.

Yep, that'll help the game grow, for sure. 


20:23:44 Dec 24th 08 - Endless Delerium:

Hi Sir Crimson Xtc :)  Did you finally get to build your blocker city? :)


20:26:17 Dec 24th 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

i dont recall anyone beating on them for a few days and bragging, if its knife then no idea who he is anyway


20:30:00 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Eros The Pimp:

Hirgon...theres History here...and it all begins with a tale of treachery. Bad blood spanning 3 era's now. They got what they asked for.


20:30:13 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Spoon:

Knife is my *beep*.


20:34:13 Dec 24th 08 - Lady Hellish Holly:

It actually has to do with me and not Dark (The Empire).  I betrayed Predators 3 eras ago because they were attacking my real life friends and bragging about it. 

Before then I never betrayed anyone or did anything dishonorable.  Since then I have never betrayed anyone or done anything dishonorable.


20:39:25 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Vishnu:

NO0B!!!!!!


20:41:13 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Hirgon:

Pimp, I know what you are talking about, and like Holly said, it has nothing to do with Dark.  Over half the players in Dark weren't here three eras ago, and we knew we weren't ready for Fantasia, so I'm not sure how you can say we got what we asked for.d

Finwe, what would you call this topic, other then bragging about the end of a kingdom that only lasted a few days?


20:41:52 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Spoon:

I'm Knife's pimp.


20:55:50 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Eros The Pimp:

lol Spoon...shuddup...im trying to be seriously pissed...you keep breaking my rythme....lol


20:57:05 Dec 24th 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

as far as i know knife didnt beat anyone? at least not in any area im in


21:06:42 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Hirgon:

Then why did he post about the Empire's death?


21:07:46 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Sloth:

If you never see how Fantasia kingdoms attack, how are you ever going to be ready for Fantasia?


21:08:28 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Vishnu:

he meant to put this in the rp forum...?(hirgon)


21:14:22 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Hirgon:

Bwahahaha Vishnu, nice.


21:20:43 Dec 24th 08 - Lady Hellish Holly:

Sloth.  They need to learn how to build cities first and do the VERY basics before they should even be learning how Fantasia attacks...


21:29:39 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Eros The Pimp:

Then teach them in groups of 5 not 50


21:33:49 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Crimson Xtc:

I never learned from anyone everything I know I winged it on :P

So jump on fant and wing it like i did ;)


21:38:33 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Sutekh:

Everything is very tricky here. When vets are happy - new players are not. And from another side...
Most important thing to get everybody happy - more total players in VU.


21:40:35 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Samulis:

Vishnu, if you just called holly a nub, then you are in for death. I think I did that once... ouch...


21:42:46 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Vishnu:

Lol?

Oh did I call him(lol) a nub?


21:50:17 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Sloth:

Sloth.  They need to learn how to build cities first and do the VERY basics before they should even be learning how Fantasia attacks...

Build a city near mountains. Build homes and mines. Build an armory. Train troops. Fight to the death. If you lose, kick out the half of the kingdom that sucks, go back to Zeta and find more players. Repeat as necessary until you start kicking butt. It's that simple...  staying on Zeta and never trying a challenge will mean you will never know what it will take.  It doesn't take 3 eras to figure out the first 5 steps above......


21:51:11 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Samulis:

Holly is a girl, fool.

I didn't know nubs were allowed to post in discussions. I thought they had to post in the 'I want a kingdom' section only... lol.


21:51:53 Dec 24th 08 - Sir Samulis:

good guide sloth... mail it to whoever is in charge of them.


21:55:39 Dec 24th 08 - Lady Hellish Holly:

Jees.  Why doesn't Admin just send that message to all the new kingdoms!  That would fix everything!

Damn!  Wow.  I have a bunch of friends who have never skied before.  I was going to take them this year.  Instead of taking them on the easy trail a bunch of times and teaching them.  Then bringing them to the next step up and teaching them.  I am going throw them on Triple Black Diamond and let them go.  When they suck and hate it.  I will get a new group of friends.  Keep tossing them on the hardest one till I find a few that can handle it. 

I mean it's pretty damn simple.  You go to the top of a hill.  You push off and ski down!  Just turn when you need to.  I am actually going to write a manual to the ski instructor.


22:08:06 Dec 24th 08 - Endless Delerium:

Sir Samulis

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12/24/2008 12:51:53 PM
good guide sloth... mail it to whoever is in charge of them.



Kind of uncalled for I think, but all the best to you just the same.
Cheers.


22:11:13 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Eros The Pimp:

If they all part of your KD, feel free to throw them off as many mountains as you want


22:11:55 Dec 24th 08 - Monarch Vampire Queen:

What some have forgotten is not all of us want to put in that much time or care that little about those we play with

some of us play to hang out with friends and have fun

not to get on a leader board

if we get there fun - if not fine

we leave it to those who want to play 20 hrs a day and are willing to toss friends under the buss

they have their world and we can play on lower worlds


22:19:26 Dec 24th 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

tell me. have you ever been in a fant kd? i think not if you belive the BS you just told, the only reason a lot of people stay in thier fant kd for up to 10+ eras is because of the friends they made. 20 hours a day. pfft im lucky if i manage 1. dont use random bull*beep* as an excuse for anything because it rubs a lot of people up the wrong way.


22:23:33 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Vishnu:

Yeah I know shes a girl samulis thus why I said "him(lol)" as in a joking manner....


22:25:01 Dec 24th 08 - Endless Delerium:

I invite all the Fant oldtimers to open up a facebook account and add the warbook application, if you make it to the leaderboard  without joining the top alliance or even have fun in the game (read their forums and hear the crys of a dying to near extinct game) I'll make a point of coming up to Fant sooner so you can kick my *beep* again :)

For now I'll stay put on the lower worlds and have fun while learning


22:32:31 Dec 24th 08 - Monarch Vampire Queen:

Dark Lord Finwe

my response was to Pimp and if you read his ramblings was in line with his argument

I agree Endless

Lets see anyone of them get to the leaderboard on WB without the top alliance allowing it


22:32:40 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Vishnu:

Damn!  Wow.  I have a bunch of friends who have never skied before.  I was going to take them this year.  Instead of taking them on the easy trail a bunch of times and teaching them.  Then bringing them to the next step up and teaching them.  I am going throw them on Triple Black Diamond and let them go.  When they suck and hate it.  I will get a new group of friends.  Keep tossing them on the hardest one till I find a few that can handle it. 

Lol, I went snowboarding yesterday my first time snowboarding (skiing is fun too) I went down a diamond trail, and I can say that was fun as HELL!!!! Luckily I didn't break anything, but Lol wiping out is actually pretty fun. 

I was even trying to wipe out badly. I went down this really steep hill, and I was going straight down, and as I keep gaining speed I kept getting lower, and lower, to the ground then I would try stopping myself, or in other words wiping out. If I could I would like to do that again....


22:33:22 Dec 24th 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

no one is suggesting your kd should have come to fant so soon thats the admins mistake it seems. but when you did arrive you handled it badly and didnt ask enough questions imo.


22:34:59 Dec 24th 08 - Lady Hellish Holly:

That's actually awesome.  I was very similar, but I've taken a lot of people on the mountain.  Everyone is a little different and like to do it their own way.  The majority like to casually learn from the bottom up.  Others like to just jump head in.  But cause someone doesn't want to do it your way, would you harass them about it and force them to do that?



22:40:08 Dec 24th 08 - Monarch Vampire Queen:

Dark Lord Finwe

We tried to get Mant or anything but Fant from the Admin and it was Fant or nothing

You may feel we handled it badly but we are mostly nubs and 1 era players who were told suck it up die and learn.

It took a lot of talking to even get the kd to land - many just wanted to quit before even landing

And once landed it didnt get any better.

We tried a number of things, looked at all sides of the issue and made a strategic decision based on what was best for the whole of our kd.

Not what was best for Fant

Sure we knew that those who were looking forward to free cities would be mad that we razed them. That is why we razed them.

Tough luck


22:42:30 Dec 24th 08 - Lady Hellish Holly:

Finwe I completely understand where you are coming from.  But to expect a player on their 3rd day playing the game to be fighting Veterans of 10+ eras?  I am sorry, but you guys are wrong.

It's actually quite simple.  I can fix the issue for all of you if you wish.

THE FIX
Having a game you must cater to a lot of different types of people.   Some love to dive and go nuts.  Others like to do it slow and at their own pace.  I understand that we can't have kingdoms sitting on Zetamania all the time.  Creating a model for every person to follow and expect everyone to do it one way will not work.

First.  All successful kingdoms on Zetamania have to go to Mantrax.  Fair?
Second:  All successful kingdoms on Mantrax have to go to Fantasia. Fair?
Third:  You always have the option to go on higher worlds, so if you feel it's too slow paced and you are a fast learner. Fair?

We have a wide range of players whom vary depending on age, personality, and etc.  To expect every new player to know exactly what to ask for is being naive.  You can't just tell them to go to the hardest map and LEARN.

This method may work for some.  Which they have the option to going there.  Some people actually might NOT learn better under stress and frustrations.  Some people actually do better slowly getting the basics.  Then you also have some people who don't even care about learning tactics and just want to play to kill time on the side.

By having the crossworlds, it allows for eras when Fantasia is unpopulated to go to mantrax or other places for a good fight.  They won't be stuck on one world.

If we are having crossworlds, then I would even suggest NOT bumping people to Fantasia.  That is debatable of course.  The veterans can sit here and argue with the new players all day long telling them why they are wrong.  But you have to understand.  What a new player sees is what they see.  You have to accept it.  Everyone perceives and experiences the situation differently. 


22:50:35 Dec 24th 08 - Dark Lord Finwe:

im not expecting you to win :) but to at least try ;). personaly i never wanted this change and i never wanted a whole world. i wanted to make kds from mantrax move up to fant rather then stay on mantrax and win every era.

 

First.  All successful kingdoms on Zetamania have to go to Mantrax.  Fair?
Second:  All successful kingdoms on Mantrax have to go to Fantasia. Fair?
Third:  You always have the option to go on higher worlds, so if you feel it's too slow paced and you are a fast learner. Fair?

that is wha i proposed as well :)

 

my only point was that once you were forced onto fant it would have been worth your while to take the challange head on and if you were going to fail then go down fighting rather then disband so soon, it would have improved your reputation and that of your kingdom and it would have led to a greater chance of securing a nap in the future

 

 


22:51:31 Dec 24th 08 - Lady Hellish Holly:

When we came out of protection 90% of the members didn't even have troops. and we had enemies on their way to our cities as they came OOP.

We disbanded so we could relocate on a different map.  There is no other way to relocate my friend.  We didn't disband to quit.  We just wanted to start quicker on another map so we wouldn't get slaughtered there too.


22:55:40 Dec 24th 08 - Monarch Vampire Queen:

I could be wrong but I think most of us did die fighting with what we had

Not much since the bts I bought didnt get allocated till too late to use to make a army any bigger than standard oop to face armys made with bts.


22:56:42 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Knife:

Sir Spoon

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12/24/2008 8:30:13 PM
Knife is my *beep*.

/me bends over


23:46:27 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Eros The Pimp:

Monarch Vampire Queen

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12/24/2008 9:55:40 PM
I could be wrong but I think most of us did die fighting with what we had

Not much since the bts I bought didnt get allocated till too late to use to make a army any bigger than standard oop to face armys made with bts.
rofl...none of us bought bts to train...we all used the standard build train method


23:48:30 Dec 24th 08 - Monarch Vampire Queen:

speak for yourself Pimp

I know some did in another kingdom

you didnt get to feel the teeth and hoofs of my ponies

I saved them for Retribution

I gave you farmers to kill


23:52:16 Dec 24th 08 - Mr. Eros The Pimp:

rofl...wait...no....not even gonna bother....its pathetic....


23:53:53 Dec 24th 08 - Monarch Vampire Queen:

in case that was worrying you

I didnt build them they were the drop farmers

I knew you wanted a Dark kill so badly I sent them to you

merry xmas


23:54:41 Dec 24th 08 - Endless Delerium:

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