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The Honour of GoTF
01:18:29 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

So, here is how it plays out.

Guildmaster Chade (8/10/2009 1:05:56 AM) GOOD BAD
What if i make it that all my members do not cross your boundaries anymore, and we set the borders to be agreed between me and you - would you agree on disengaging the hostile actions?


Guildmaster Chade (8/10/2009 1:40:03 AM) GOOD BAD
just to let you know, this is the copy of the kingdom message i have just sent:



This is to all

We now have 12 ticks CF with WWF... All forces, intended for Brett, are to stop where they are. This is serious and i dont want anyone disregarding my orders atm.

I REPEAT - TERMINATE ALL MILITARY ACTIONS AGAINST WWF UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!!!


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just to show you that i am loyal to my words!

Mr. Dragon (8/10/2009 3:47:27 PM) GOOD BAD
Go ahead and take Dragon Hold I it is empty of troops.
You (8/10/2009 5:40:52 PM)
Looks like your guys done read their kd messages
17:34:27 All troops in Piper have died!
17:34:27 Piper lost a battle against Durex from Mr. Jay.
Mr. Dragon (8/10/2009 5:47:47 PM) GOOD BAD
I'll Look into it... immediately.

Mr. Dragon (8/10/2009 6:42:58 PM) GOOD BAD
Mr. Jay should be sending you an apology. I hope this error on our part will not cancel our CF.

I am interested in increasing relations between us and establishing a border where Dragon Hold and Shmehs Here are. I will place my own honor on the line for this and seriously hurt any that break a Nap between us.

If you are willing I would like to establish a NAP between us under the following terms.

Standard Nap terms for Guild of the Fallen

1. This NAP agreement shall be in place on (all worlds, or specify world here)

2. This NAP is to last the entire length of the era and cannot be honorably ended unless agreed upon by both ruling parties.

3. The forces of either kingdom will not engage in battle or attempt to capture each otherís cities. Nor will any magic be cast between the two kingdoms.

4. If a member of one kingdom does initiate an attack on a member of the other kingdomís army they forfeit one city of the offended members choosing as agreed to by the Kings or their Viceroy Representatives.

5. Taking a city of the other kingdom requires the forfeiture of that city and one city as agreed to by the Kings or their Viceroy Representatives.

6. If the member continues their assault they will be removed from the kingdom and shown no support. And attacked by both sides until dead or both kingdoms agree to stop

7. Any scout or army landing on a city can be killed without reproach but will normally be given 24 ticks to move. A report showing the offense is required.

8. During the term of the NAP, if either of the Kingdoms become NAP'd or MAP'd with one of the other kingdoms enemies, the kingdom whom is NAP'd with the enemy agrees to stay neutral in any battle which involves the second kingdom. Any blockers allowing access are to be closed to both sides of the conflict to be fair.

9. Neither kingdom will accept war refugees unless agreed upon by the kingdom the player was fighting.

10. Either kingdom is allowed to have relations or make war with anyone outside the agreement without notification or repercussions from either party within the agreement.

11. Neither kingdom will move armies through core areas of the other kingdom without notification and permission.

12. Kingdom jumpers of an enemy are not covered under this treaty for a period of 72 tics (days). ( If a player that is part of an enemy kingdom or is an enemy in their own right joins or switches Kingdoms in the middle of a war, that player can still be attacked for a period of 5 days. Any armies placed in that players cities are subject to attack without retribution)


As you can see, these terms have in place consequences for either side for breaking it. And if you like them and will agree to uphold them I will ensure that all terms are enforced. On this you have my word.

and if you like we can even put in a 72 hour cancellation clause instead of era long.

What do you say?
Guildmaster Chade (8/10/2009 8:25:41 PM) GOOD BAD
Brett, is it possible for us two, GOTF and WWF to get a permanent CF with 24 ticks notice of breaking?
You (8/10/2009 9:20:56 PM)
Would prefer at least 72 ticks notice, as this prevent any silly mistakes, or controversies.

Guildmaster Chade (8/10/2009 11:22:38 PM) GOOD BAD
OK man, i have spoken with my council and as far as i understood, Dragon has just contacted you....but just in case - i would like to contact you myself since most of the talks have been between you and me:
The Guild Of The Fallen offers a CF with 72 ticks of notice of breaking with the following terms:
1. your western border is Royal Rumble; our eastern is Shmehs Here and Dragon Hold. The land in between is neutral (no buildings from both kingdoms, and no scouts and armies
2. You keep the city of Fallomira, and we keep the city of Intel
3. In case any of the members of both kingdoms wants to go through the territory of the other, they should avoid that, and seek alternative routes. In last case, the passing will be allowed only if a mutual agreement between the two leaders is reached.
4. a CF might be broken till the end of the era ONLY with 72 ticks notice, and only given by a leader to leader!!!


Guildmaster Chade: signed
Brett the Hitmanheart:

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P.S. if you want to add something, let me know, if not just write "signed" in front of your name, and forward this msg back to me so i can post it in my forums

TAKE NOTE OF CLAUSE 3
Mr. Jay (8/11/2009 5:17:35 PM) GOOD BAD
Brett, Durex is just passing by. Pls do not attack. Thanks
Duke Darkfaith (8/13/2009 6:47:58 AM) GOOD BAD
hey Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart,

I'm sending you this letter because of my army's in your terretory.
Because of the CF between us I will not harm you, prepare on one of your city's etc. They are just passing, I hope you understand.

Regards,
Duke Darkfaith

You (8/13/2009 10:05:10 AM)
This is a deliberate prep, and by your leaders own words in writting I have permission to kill.
Mr. Dragon (8/13/2009 10:06:08 AM) GOOD BAD
I moved it right away.

It was not intended to be that close
You (8/13/2009 10:06:51 AM)
yes it was. you camped their for 3 ticks before moving at the city.
Mr. Dragon (8/13/2009 10:10:51 AM) GOOD BAD
I was trying to set movement and the trees kept messing with me and so I was going a little at a time and tic change happened.

You (8/13/2009 10:11:53 AM)
Turn around or be attacked.
Mr. Dragon (8/13/2009 10:14:16 AM) GOOD BAD
Attack and break the CF.
You (8/13/2009 10:14:55 AM)
I have permission to attack from Chade to attack any army that preps.
You (8/13/2009 10:09:50 AM)
Turn your troops around and leave this area or you will be attacked as a rogue member of your kd.
Mr. Dragon (8/13/2009 10:12:52 AM) GOOD BAD
My army is headed to the city of intel. If you attack you will break the CF before the time is up
You (8/13/2009 10:13:49 AM)
Your leader was informed last night no troops were to enter, following an attack by another of your members. Final warning.
Mr. Dragon (8/13/2009 10:16:29 AM) GOOD BAD
You would block us from one of our cities?

Again, I am not prepping on Royal Rumble that was in error and I corrected it.
You (8/13/2009 10:18:17 AM)
Yes. Same as I was stopped from one of mine.
As part of the agreement, I would be notified first of any troops headed for Intel.
None of these were granted persmission.
Mr. Kaze (8/13/2009 11:54:16 AM) GOOD BAD
You're trespassing my lands, I don't know about the rest of my KD, but I don't allow that.. Bye bye
You (8/13/2009 12:10:11 AM)
As per our peace terms, and the mail i sent to Chade, these troops are to be turned around and are not to enter this area.
You will have to find an alternate route.
Mr. Kaze (8/13/2009 2:35:38 PM) GOOD BAD
My armies fine ;)

You (8/13/2009 10:03:22 AM)
This was a deliberate prep. You guys are proving to be totally dihonourable.

Dragon Lord VIII owned by Mr. Dragon[GOTF] are preparing an attack on Royal Rumble
Guildmaster Chade (8/13/2009 8:05:16 PM) GOOD BAD
hi mate, just loged in one hour ago - i was absent for 2 days....now i have found in our council that there was a vote to break the CF with WWF and out of 6 members of the leadership 5 are FOR and 1 AGAINST (me) the breaking. I cannot do anything else than give you the 72 ticks notice of breaking the CF. According to my watch the notice expires at 19:00 (GMT) 16th of August 2009. Frankly speaking we need to move freely through your territories as we are starting to move to the east, and diversion cost us a lot of time....
I will make sure that you are not attacked until the notice expires!




So...I get prepped on, attacked, have the terms of the agreement broken within hours of it being made, and they feel that they have not acted dishonourably.


01:22:03 Aug 14th 09 - Divine Elldorian:

this proved you to be dishonorable... the member moved his army within 3 ticks and you still attacked when he wernt even prepping no more


01:22:48 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

00:12:24 Dragon Lord VIII lead by Mr. Dragon attacked and took over Omashu. Due to their overwhelming power our army retreated to Wwf. We lost 0 Hobgoblins, 0 Rockthrowers, 0 Warlords, 0 Mages and 0 Berserkers and 353 peasants in the battle.


some 72 hours...dont think it was 72 minutes.

I even hold my troops back, because Chade and Polly are now in discussions, yet there players continue to attack.


01:28:19 Aug 14th 09 - Divine Elldorian:

well thsi doesnt prove the KD dishonorable only about 2 people dishonorable... and you also acted dishonorably. and you decided to hold your troops back...it wasnt a demand. when me and MAD were talking diplomacy our armies continued to clash.


01:37:58 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

Those were 2 of the 8 the past by. The rest didnt bother pm'ing to ask.
I acted within the terms of the agreement.


01:39:27 Aug 14th 09 - Duke Windscar The Random:

O_O thats a long msg


02:16:13 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

Just laying it out as it happened..seeing how many times their players mention the word "on my honour"...gets funny after 5 days of messaging.


02:22:37 Aug 14th 09 - Divine Elldorian:

i done a search and they never said that...


02:26:56 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

Mr. Dragon (8/10/2009 6:42:58 PM) - " I will place my own honor on the line for this" - thats one of many...if i were to post every pm here you would be here for hours reading


02:42:48 Aug 14th 09 - Divine Elldorian:

o you worded itifferent thats all :P my bad


03:47:29 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Shadow:

because you joined sol the ceasefire ends immediately. the agreement is for the wwf kingdom not just you. just because you left your one member kingdom doesnt give you protection. and due to clause six of our agreement with sol you are still not protected

"6. This Map does not protect new members that left their kingdoms that your MAP partner is at war with."

go read it in your forums if your leaders have posted it.


03:53:52 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Justin:

Man you people and your 72 hour notice crap. That is way to long it should always be 24 or less


04:34:15 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Kaze:

Atleast I can attack him now =)


08:33:25 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Roheran:

you and your arrogance brought this on yourself. we were not interested in a one man kd, no matter how good you seem to think you are. but your constant braggin in pm's and in the forums got quite annoying. do not blame us for therefore smashing you and your armies when we got the chance.


08:36:37 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

when you got the chance??? umm...its the other way around dude...i doing the smashing and you're doing the "get smashed up" part.


08:46:10 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Roheran:

lets have a look at the battlefield in 24 hours


08:50:09 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

ok boss


08:51:34 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Yassen:

Gotf wow you guys... idk cant put it to words but im on brets side and i belive that sol should warn new members of this unfair clause with gotf saying to attack new members wtf kind of crap is that.


08:56:05 Aug 14th 09 - Sir Struddle:

cant we all just get along?


09:08:24 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

Just for you Struddle...no


09:22:22 Aug 14th 09 - Lord Polydeuces:

Yassen, you should get your facts straight before you open your mouth silly boy.


10:30:59 Aug 14th 09 - Sir Woody:

is chade going to pull the 'im going to sue you trick' for 'disclosing personal messeges' like he tried to do to Lew :P, or some crap like that.

Lawl


10:34:37 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Roheran:

watch it woody, he may sue you!!  :p


10:44:46 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

No...not yet. But he did threaten to attack my pc with a virus, which I do believe by FBI is now days considered an act of terrorism, punishable by 8 years in jail.
That was until h found out Im actually a coder by living, and could run circles around his knowledge on a really bad day.


10:46:47 Aug 14th 09 - Lord Wraith The Bloody:

Lol
Fail GotF, just epic fail xD
So much for honour, huh? :P


10:55:43 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

Then there was the 12 million troops on the way to come get me. So far around 400k have turned up. Anyone spot 11,6m "lost" troops wondering around looking for me, point the to Nirvanan please.


10:57:52 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Roheran:

they are all halfer scouts


11:01:35 Aug 14th 09 - Sir Woody:

thats about a 3 RL year merge time? good luck ;)


11:08:15 Aug 14th 09 - Lord Wraith The Bloody:

Nah.. you could probably merge them up in a day or 2... o.O
Though I'm sure GotF can't afford the scouts XD


11:09:18 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

That was week 2 of the game, when army upkeep of 36 million was more than all the players of VU were earning combined.


11:27:42 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Selos:

and to think i was called dishonarable by them as well brett i have many friend in gotf but i have your back on this they were dishonorable (sorry kaze dragon and chade but its true)


12:26:16 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Kaze:

I didn't do anything, I was just moving my army around.. ;)


13:05:13 Aug 14th 09 - Sir Pubeguin The Hairy Cheezburger:

wow... r3tards gotf members... moving your army around when it isnt allowed.
god i wish i was doing solo and in bretts position.. those nubs would be dead now


16:07:43 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Vuggy:

That's what I was thinking penguin. :P that'd be the life. Hehehe.


17:15:09 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Roheran:

pretty scary stuff...

Nope II from Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart
Hobgoblins:11009
Rockthrowers:830
Warlords:601
Mages:0
Berserkers:0


17:41:08 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Path:

I dont know what that proves?  You could paste an eits of a scout here too if you wanted?


18:06:29 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Jay:

Brett, when u first attacking us I dont remember any notice given. You move your army burn our city when we are busy engaging Zombie You nvr call it dishonour. Non of GOTF members were talking abt war with you Brett ! Chade had been working hard for KD relationship with WWF but do u still remember how u respond him? I would say those not involved, you guys dont understand the situation. It is not fair to accuse us of being dishonour. Now those members whose city burn by you fight back, u said they are dishonour. Our attack is according to agreement. None of GOTF members attack WWF ever since when 72 hours CF agreed. However according to agreement when you switch KD you are no longer binding to the agreement. Poly have make his effort to discuss with Chade abt you. I would say both of them are honourable man, me and all of us respect them as leader. But just like Roheran said  you and your arrogance brought this on yourself. My army easily wipe up by you, we may not win this war but u cant expect us to keep tolerate you either. 


18:13:25 Aug 14th 09 - Lord Polydeuces:

you guys did attack him however, when Chade and I were in the midst of talking to see if even due to the past, he could be left alone, so he can help us grow our KD and in our wars.  Chade never answered me abck after saying, hey give us these 4 cities back and we'll probably be able to work something out, never heard from him since then, and that was over 18 hours ago now.  Meanwhile, GotF continued to attack him.


18:15:16 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

Jay. Your leader built an armoury on my doorstep. claiming it was for use against zombies. It was so far away from them, he may as well have built it inside your core. It was built inside an area we both agreed to be no mans land.
Then he said it wasnt an armoury. Until i took it, at which point he said he needed it for zombies. He then declared war, not me.

You (8/5/2009 11:20:04 AM)
you were told not to enter or build here several times.
you have failed to heed the warnings.
Guildmaster Chade (8/5/2009 7:55:36 PM) GOOD BAD
where i built was no man land, as yourself declared, but i guess if you want a war, you will receive a war!!!
You (8/5/2009 7:57:09 PM)
its called no mans land for a reason. as in no people buildings or anything to be placed.
Guildmaster Chade (8/5/2009 8:07:44 PM) GOOD BAD
well, bro, you cant tell me that here is a no mans land, as this is the eastern border of my kingdom....i gave you a promise that no one will attack you till the end of the era, and when i say something - i really mean it...those scouts were free travelers, without any bad intentions!!! That Beacon you have just took - Peace Light - was intended armory for the zombies. I respect players boundaries, and trust me no one would have attacked you!
So if you still would like to resolve this matter peacefully then i am ready to listen to your terms, and trust me they will be respected!!!
If you prefer to be stubborn and just attack us, then we will have to settle everything on the battlefield!
It's your call...


18:19:24 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

You (8/5/2009 8:11:14 PM) dont send scouts east. dont build armouries on my doorstep.
thats all i asked. you guys couldnt work with that, why should i trust your word.

You (8/5/2009 8:15:43 PM)
i never sent scouts out or planted an armoury, nor did i make the first forward move o*beep*gression. My moves have all been reactionary.
Guildmaster Chade (8/5/2009 8:21:52 PM) GOOD BAD
i have told you mate, i have built my city for the sake of the zombies, on the borders of MY kingdom, and MY land!!! All i wanted is a stable base against Zombies....and when i say my word- this means that i keep it...you can ask whoever you want from the whole VU!!! I like to keep my word, and i have been keeping it for 37 years! I am an honorable man, good husband and perfect father of my three sons...aggression is something i dont like, and thats why i try to settle everything peacefully!

And one note - you might be stronger in 1 VS 1, but dont you think that if the two top kingdoms of Nirvana make a full scale attack on you, you wouldnt survive?

Listen, brother, mistakes happen, especially from little children! I have sent two kingdom messages to the whole kingdom, to not send scouts towards your directions, but what can i do, that i am active just for 1-2 hrs per day?

Now, i am not afraid of war, because i know how to win eras, and i have also taken big kingdoms solo, and i have won! A kingdom with a single person is not going to scare me...so once again, what do you prefer peace or war!

The choice is yours, my friend
You (8/5/2009 8:25:59 PM)
Then why place it on my doorstep and not zombies???
They have the same warning about sending scouts my way...do you not think they have tried the same thing...sending scouts via my zone to get to you?
I can assure you my activity is high enough for me to succeed solo. I did it against MAD, i did it against FF, SPQR, MUSIC, RVL, DB and more...
Guildmaster Chade (8/5/2009 8:40:33 PM) GOOD BAD
My friend :)

I have said what i want to say - i have placed in there so i have some time to build a proper armory instead of them using couple of BTs and take it over!
Now all i am waiting for you is to decide would you like to continue the war, or would you like to end it via diplomacy...And mind you - your dealings with other kingdoms does not bother me - Guild Of The Fallen is one of the oldest kingdoms in VU, and it is for a reason!!!

So please just answer shortly - war or peace
You (8/5/2009 8:43:51 PM)
Thats your choice. I dont have scouts wandering around your area getting "lost" and setting up armouries.
I was very clear at the start. My intentions relate to a kd on another map. Yet every time i start heading east, a scout appears to prep on my city, or an army starts prepping on my cities, or armouries start appearing in areas they shouldnt, forcing me to return troops to the frontline im supposed to not be worried about.
Guildmaster Chade (8/5/2009 8:45:35 PM) GOOD BAD
my choice will be decided if you answer this simple question - do you trust my word?
You (8/5/2009 8:46:27 PM)
nope. not after having 2 cities prepped and an armoury placed on the doorstep. I kept my side, you broke yours.
Guildmaster Chade (8/5/2009 8:50:08 PM) GOOD BAD
;)
You (8/5/2009 8:54:12 PM)
very sexy but i dont do the guy*beep*ting on me thing


18:27:18 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Vuggy:

And one note - you might be stronger in 1 VS 1, but dont you think that if the two top kingdoms of Nirvana make a full scale attack on you, you wouldnt survive?


I think that is the daftest thing I've ever seen said. T_T

A kingdom with a single person is not going to scare me...so once again, what do you prefer peace or war!

Big talk for not being able to kill him with more members than SIN and definitely more than WWF. ESPECIALLY Sol Invictus who (no offense brett, but..) could've taken him out in a mere week if not that then less. T_T


21:37:10 Aug 14th 09 - Duke Darkfaith:

I'm just gonna say one thing that may clear some things up.

the attacks or preps can't be talked good, that was a fault of ours.

But what dragon is saying that hes army's got on your city by accident could be true, don't directly say it isn't true. to bad this can't be proven.

about the other things, I've never seen these terms on the forum.

We have our standerd NAP terms, that everyone is following. but terms from a CF aren't there. and normally CF only means no attacks on each other. So for everyone that was passing your territory can't be called dishounerable if they didn't know about these terms.

The Guild Of The Fallen offers a CF with 72 ticks of notice of breaking with the following terms:
1. your western border is Royal Rumble; our eastern is Shmehs Here and Dragon Hold. The land in between is neutral (no buildings from both kingdoms, and no scouts and armies
2. You keep the city of Fallomira, and we keep the city of Intel
3. In case any of the members of both kingdoms wants to go through the territory of the other, they should avoid that, and seek alternative routes. In last case, the passing will be allowed only if a mutual agreement between the two leaders is reached.
4. a CF might be broken till the end of the era ONLY with 72 ticks notice, and only given by a leader to leader!!!

We've recieved a message from chade with the following.

Message From Guildmaster Chade

Temporary CF with WWF

Back to message list

Guildmaster Chade (8/10/2009 1:39:03 AM) GOOD BAD
This is to all

We now have a CF with WWF... All forces, intended for Brett, are to stop where they are. This is serious and i dont want anyone disregarding my orders atm.

I REPEAT - TERMINATE ALL MILITARY ACTIONS AGAINST WWF UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!!!

so we did.

But offcourse as said above, there happend some issues that look strange, but could've happend by accident.

and well about the terms I would say it was just a misscommunication between leader and members that has some drastical consequenses.

I'm want to apoligze that it had to happen like this. But don't call everyone in GOTF dishounerable because of some mistakes. and BTW its still a game.

oh and another BTW :p chade has stepped down as a leader due to this incident and some RL stuff


22:08:41 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

Yet you all claimed it was my fault because Im attacking your scouts coming through, which was strictly forbidden under the terms of the agreement, which I have laid out for all to see and judge.
So next time you want to point fingers of blame, dont send them my way.


22:15:46 Aug 14th 09 - Lord Wraith The Bloody:

" So for everyone that was passing your territory can't be called dishounerable if they didn't know about these terms."

Thats like saying you can't be fined for having relations with a 17 year old because you "didn't know". (Extreme example but you get the point) Ignorance is no excuse to break the law, ask any court :)


22:35:34 Aug 14th 09 - Mr. Kaze:

For some reason, I'm sure you know what you're talking about Wraith. (Experience-wise maybe?) lol


22:37:28 Aug 14th 09 - Lord Wraith The Bloody:

Lol, I'll remain with my mouth shut on that one :P


23:30:37 Aug 14th 09 - Sir Pubeguin The Hairy Cheezburger:

lol


23:45:09 Aug 14th 09 - Duke Darkfaith:

So next time you want to point fingers of blame, dont send them my way.

euhm I didn't blame anyone, just saying not to call someone dishounerable.

is that a blame?

well I didn't found anything about those terms in the forum, or I missed it. I've been away for like 2 weeks you know :s

and btw I said I wanted to apoligze about the things that happen and I get an answer like that? and did I ever blame you from something??? I thought you where a grown up, but like the way your talking now, I think your more like a child from 14.


01:09:44 Aug 15th 09 - Mr. Brett The Hitmanhart:

wasnt you that was intended. of the gotf players, you have played honourably.
ive had enough of vu now, so seeded my cities to you. fair enough for a fair player
gl all
have fun


04:46:51 Aug 15th 09 - Guildmaster Chade:

It is time to take some serious actions and i will say just couple of lines!

I accept the facts that happened as totally MY FAULT!!! When i send Brett the terms, i had to be offline for two days, and by the time i came back i saw a lot of messages waiting for me (one was from Brett with signed terms which i send to him, and i was awaiting for them to be signed so i can post it in our forum), misunderstanding, and a war going on!

Due to my RL issues and arrangements atm, i had to step down as leader, in favour of Shmeh, because an inactive leader is no leader!!!
I really tried hard to make a peace, but i have failed! I tried to sort out the things diplomatically and i have failed in that as well! Most of you know me and you know that i am not afraid to step up and say I am sorry when i am wrong!

So i would like to say to the one man that deserves to hear that - I am sorry Brett, and i really didn't wanted for that to happen that way! Fact is fact! You can call me dishonorable, and i will take my sentence with responsibility as i take all my actions with one!

All i am asking is to NOT call Guild Of The Fallen dishonorable! Because they were listening to me! So i would like to take all fault on me and myself only!!!


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