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War Declaration on LDK
15:30:36 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

OFFICIAL WAR DECLARATION ON LDK!

When the era of CrissxCross started, LDK was the first kingdom the riders of Mirror met.
We spared their lifes after the first attacks and decided to offer them a non-aggression pact.
One of the terms was that neither of us would open gates for enemy kingdoms to get access into the area of the other kingdom.
This NAP has been beneficial for both of us almost all the time.
However, LDK decided to grant Baccus Monks access to our area. When we asked them how that was possible, they "didn't know".
Furthermore, when we then asked for access to Baccus core, they told us we could go there with a great delay, almost around their core.
The reason for this: "Baccus came to know about it, and they told us not to open our gates for you"

When we asked them who in their kingdom told Baccus about our plans, they just replied that someone in our kingdom must have been the leak, since none of the LDK
members told Baccus... (give me one good reason why someone from the mirror viceroys would tell baccus we wanted to attack them..)

After that they told us some more lies, and we're sick of it now.

Is this what you get in return for sparing a kingdom's life?

Mirror will take revenge for this betrayal.

FOR MIRROR!

~~~~King Azaruc of Mirror~~~~

p.s. Twamao says: DIE LDK!!


15:44:45 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Love:

Nap breakers!

Let the flames begin


15:46:14 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

good thing here is that I didn't have to end the nap: they were the ones that broke the NAP, by letting Baccus in..



15:59:58 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Stormvenz:

Go get 'im Aza:D


16:08:52 Jun 3rd 07 - Lord Senturu:

go git em Azaruc


16:12:31 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. William II:


it wasn't there fault! the monks were just so drunk mirror thaught they went to a stripclub or a brothel... and everybody knows you guys got the best girls!


16:12:55 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Smuff With A Shemale:

Woo))0000PPPppp fight fight fight!!111!!!


16:19:13 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Patas:

:) it would be fair to say that Mirror (after killing Music) didnt have any enemies... the closest KDs were LDK and Baccus Monks... so why wait till Carnage, LGC and DB take over LDK cities... oh Mirror, u are all so greedy :))


16:46:52 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

@ Patas.
Yes, LDK was the closest kingdom, but we were napped, so we asked them to let us move through to get to baccus (we still wanted to take revenge for last era..)


16:49:50 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Patas:

and u want to get over the main core with all the armies... then u see such amount of armies moving around ur cities, it can scared anybody... there were other ways reaching Baccus, but... it was only the reason for war with LDK from ur side...


17:13:03 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

@Duke Azaruc

Nice story you created here. First thing to say, that you call me liar for no reason, Second, no Baccus Monks Armies were let through to your core or lands. Please show me where they are on your territory, where, huh WHERE????


17:18:44 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

And yes everybody, go get them nice job Azaruc, they deserve it.

But you dont know anything. I didnt lie to anyone, and if you thinks so you can think from start again.

Just come and crush us, my talks here are done. You just could declare war just like that for no reason, it would be better than saying these things which are not truth.


17:25:01 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Toke:

Dear Dovydas

You let small Baccus armies through a gate, wich leads them openly to illuminati empire whos gates have been destroyed, and therefore a nice clear path to our core. I dont know if you guys did this on purpuos or not. But still, we were not allowed through your gates to reach baccus, and our agreement said that you where not supossed to open your gates for other kds to reach us aswell.
If we were to go around, it would have taken about 200 ticks.. and that means a morale drop on 50% and *beep*.. so i would prefer not to. War was the only way for the bunny to get its revenge!


17:30:38 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

It is still our territory ther Dear Toke. So i dont see any problem here. and there was no gates to let em through, and how the hell we are supposed to deny them walk around as we are in Alliance. That would be again NAP breaking or Alliance breaking acctualy. And I repeat that territory is ours where Baccus small army is walking.


17:32:59 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Patas:

no huge armies from Baccus went towards Mirror territory, thats for sure.


17:36:19 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

Where did I say they were huge armies?


17:41:45 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Patas:

u dont say it, but Mr Toke said

"You let small Baccus armies through a gate, wich leads them openly to illuminati empire whos gates have been destroyed, and therefore a nice clear path to our core."

It seems that if some small armies can reach some places, so why not the huge ones... I dont think that Mirror cant save their cities from the small Baccus armies. Moreover, that SMALL Baccus armies were never passed through our gates that keep the entrance to ur territory.


17:44:27 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Kimma:

how the hell we are supposed to deny them walk around as we are in Alliance. That would be again NAP breaking or Alliance breaking acctualy

and it is not NAP breaking to let them enter our area?
it only shows you hold the Baccus NAP higher than the NAP with mirror.
in that case, you don't need us, do you?


17:48:03 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

i would explain the situation with picture. pls wait you *beep*s!


17:48:48 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Fra Gusti:

Ok...Sorry Mirror guys. But you are very tree NAP breakers!...if the things i am reading are true.

But here are the facts:

1- We did not care about you at all. So we did not send any armies

2- There was 1 scout outside your area...that was sent before LDK built wasll. The Monks did not ask for any passage and LDK did not open any gates.

3- Patas got the point. You could still come to our area without declaing LDK (anyway, your Nap did not talk about opening gates, if I am wrong)....but yo ustill declare LDK.

4- Whatever you do, you wont be able to take revenge from your loss (after you declaration after last era) as we are fighting many KDs and we have one feet into Nirvana at this point.

So please NO BS:)...you are just NAP breakers.....and from a KD with a glorious past like Mirror (at least this is what tehy always told me)....that is pretty unusual....:(


18:04:54 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Smuff With A Shemale:

Fra it seems to me that you may have done this. you have sent many 50k armys at Phi rescently which came through GoD blockers, in much the same way as LDK have done with Mirror. but when one person disagrees with another person like this there can be no truth found.


18:08:37 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

A fra: then why on earth didn't Dovydas just say that they didn't let them through... apparently they did let some scouts through..

+ he said he would be talking with his viceroys to grant us access. We would receive answer within 20 ticks.

then the next day in one of his messages he tells us none of his viceroys had been informed about our plans...

he was just trying to buy time.

And Mirror did never end a NAP in the past (at least, not during an era, only between era's). But this was just plain non-cooperation/betrayal from their side. We're not stupid.


18:13:31 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Basch:

ldk might have thought you wanted access into their core just so you could have an easy win against em but this is only what ldk may have thought nothing else


18:21:02 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Fra Gusti:

Smuff,

What you say it is just in your mind. We took the first ex-Dorian blocker by ourselves. The second was open when you guys already attacked them. So, I did not do anything you claim (instead you should ask what Phil did):)..

Also, to Azaruc....there is always a first time for not top KDs to break Naps....and this is the one for Mirror...sorry to say that. A Nap is an agreement. When you sign, you gotta bear to it...so you better be careful what you agree.

I dont know what Dovydas told you but this is what I see. Just an ex-glorious Kd bullying a new one (LDK).....with BS. And remember: You might declare on us:).....you might defeat us.....but as we are almost dead....this wont cancel your 1 vs 1 defeat last era...(especially now that Mirror is not allied just to Legacy...but also to legacy 2, Carnage etc.).

Good luck with your quest.


18:27:35 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

Duke Azarus :

"A fra: then why on earth didn't Dovydas just say that they didn't let them through... apparently they did let some scouts through..

+ he said he would be talking with his viceroys to grant us access. We would receive answer within 20 ticks."

Fra Gusti:

"2- There was 1 scout outside your area...that was sent before LDK built wasll. The Monks did not ask for any passage and LDK did not open any gates."

And the walls as you can see has holes, as one of our cities already taken by Mirror. You dont read but just say what you want to say...

Im out, Welcome to LDK. Maybe some Vodka before fight?


18:31:51 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

Ah and about that you still dont understood my Vice problems they all were offline through that day, how am I supposed to consider it with myself? I know that waiting is very annoying especialy when you are told you will get answer but still no result. What could I do about it, nothing that was our problem I guess... And nobody was buing time again you Duke Azarus dont read.

1- We did not care about you at all. So we did not send any armies - as Fra Gusti said...


18:31:54 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

hehe, Fra, I know what a NAP is, you don't have to tell me that.
But first we spare their lives in the beginning, and than later in the era they're telling us lies? Is that the way to say "thank you" in vu? I think not.

And by telling these lies he signed his own death pact.
We really didn't want to attack them, ask the members involved in the war planning and you'll see we really didn't like to have the NAP with LDK ended.

But the other side is that I just didn't trust LDK anymore. And I think no other king would trust them anymore after they've been lying to you like this.
( You should know they were suddenly moving big armies towards the borders between M and LDK, why would they need to do that if we're napped.)

And btw.. Dovydas admitted in this topic that he let you guys through:
"how the hell we are supposed to deny them walk around as we are in Alliance. That would be again NAP breaking or Alliance breaking acctualy"

Edit: just read your post Dovydas... why not tell us they weren't online instead of letting us wait and tell us 2 days later?


18:38:37 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Fra Gusti:

And btw.. Dovydas admitted in this topic that he let you guys through:
"how the hell we are supposed to deny them walk around as we are in Alliance. That would be again NAP breaking or Alliance breaking acctualy"

Thru their territory...Duke azaruc:)..hehe...c'mon..you work in a top consulting firm:)...or not? (kidding).

And i assume you dont know what exactly Nap means. Conditions are agreed. trust or not trust does not make you a non-Nap breaker if you break teh agreed conditions.

Also...how in the heck you can think we believe lDK was attacking you...if they will be gangbanged soon (as everybody else) by Carnage, DK, LEgacy etc.??...:)...c'mon.

Last thing: how come the declaration came just after you ended Music's war? Weird tha the drop in trust happened just at that time as my scout has been there for 3 weeks now:):).

 

 


18:38:57 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Toke:

Haha, the Fra guy is hillarious. I mean come on, trying to make us Mirror members sad because he means we broke a NAP that LDK put on a thin line.

After our war with Music, we spotted you baccus. We spotted you and decided too reach you so we could fight you. Our NAP Agreement with LDK was at that moment that we were not supposed to help any kd's to reach eachother by opening our gates. There was a little spot surrounded by LDK walls, with illuminati cities inside where an Baccus army went through.

The LDK representive whom we discussed an opening to reach you with, seemed to not answer us at all when we question these actions... and like Aza says, he was just trying to buy time.  Now our KD got suspicious, and took the fight to them. we did what was right!


18:39:54 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

Yes you realy didnt want to end NAP with us. But hell no Im no liar. There was no lies from my side.

And as you begun speaking about armies, you first started gathering your armies in blocks facing too ours. Dont tell me about this bullsh... again....

Yes he was walking in our territory so what is that a crime. Can DB armies walk in your territories too?? I thought that they are our enemies, and we are not supposed to let any enemy army through!!!

Its just pathetic to come up with this crap into public.

As i said you just could Declare War and thats all... I dont mind it...


18:44:18 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

Dovydas: we told you the armies were meant for Baccus and the other kingdoms south of you and that you didn't have to worry about them...
If you would have just told us the truth, even just apologized for letting Baccus through, they would have never attacked you...


18:44:28 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Kimma:

Dovydas: we have no DB armies inside our area.
And ofc. we started gathering armies in our south blockers, we were heading for Baccus (as you know) and naturally strengthened our defenses incase we had to pull back, nothing unusual when prepearing for battle.

i would have replied more, but it will be up to Azaruc to reveal things from our KD forums.


18:46:37 Jun 3rd 07 - Duke Azaruc:

one correction Kimma: we didn't have DB armies inside our area..
now that the NAP is over, why wouldn't they be allowed to pass through our area...

oh and go ahead Kimma, post anything you like, since I gtg for dinner ^^


18:50:48 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Fra Gusti:

 for letting Baccus through????

Please avoid this No-Sense: they did not let our armies thru to your area....the only scout wen thru before they built the walls or thru their wall gaps. Is that clear:)?? This is like controlling the media in a dictatorship:).

And by the way Toke...you do whatever you want....my point here is to just counter the fact you are not breaking the nap.

Instead...it is clear that you are BREAKING A NAP.

The rest..I dont care.

 

 

 


18:51:20 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Kimma:

At Fra: Last thing: how come the declaration came just after you ended Music's war? Weird tha the drop in trust happened just at that time as my scout has been there for 3 weeks now:):).

this is a quote from our KD forums:

Mr. Adelbert

Report


5/31/2007 12:23:33 PM
VICTORY!

Notice the Date. it is now 4 days ago.

meaning it is 4 days (maybe more) since we ended the fight with Music and started preparing for a new war, being vs. baccus.

so the declaration vs LDK came 3-4 days AFTER we ended our attacks with Music, and at the same time we started talking to LDK about us going for Baccus.

we did NOT "jump the train" and decided "HEY! LETS GO FOR LDK! make a stupid excuse and go!"


18:51:28 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:




LEGEND:
Blue Arrow - Mirror Area (North)
Red Arrow leads to Baccus area (South)
Purple Circle - Blockers that do not block.
White - Where Baccus scouts were seen.


1. I have informed Honor of LDK that we are not friendly with Baccus.  I suggested they fix the blocker because it doesnt block.

You (5/19/2007 8:25:48 PM)
Hi, good day to you. I was hoping if you would let us control this blocker.
Mr. Honor [LDK] (5/20/2007 2:21:56 AM)     GOOD     BAD
why ? we dont attack you because we have NAP so you dont worry
You (5/20/2007 2:24:18 AM)
yes.i trust you wont attack us. but, the problem is, we cannot control the passage of armies in that area of the map. its not a problem though, i was just hoping you would agree.
Mr. Honor [LDK] (5/20/2007 2:33:48 AM)     GOOD     BAD
dont worry we dont open gates so nobody cant go
You (5/20/2007 2:36:49 AM)
im glad to hear that. thanks
Mr. Honor [LDK] (5/20/2007 2:38:12 AM)     GOOD     BAD
same andi think what your kingdom guys not open gates Lgc or carnage in our teritory
You (5/20/2007 2:39:35 AM)
can you rephrase that last message pls
Mr. Honor [LDK] (5/20/2007 2:56:16 AM)     GOOD     BAD
I also hope that no army will pass through your blocks into our teritory, especially legacy and carnage
You (5/20/2007 3:00:31 AM)
i am sorry, but i cannot assure that. only our king and viceroys can make that assurance. I think that wont happen. But i shall not give my reassurance because it is not right to do so. Pls ask them regarding that matter.



I even tried to show them that the blocker do not block by moving a scout pass their blocker.  But legionas attacked my scout that passed through their blocker. (considered NAP break already)

Mr. Honor [LDK] (5/21/2007 1:52:07 AM)     GOOD     BAD
maybe you teleport you scout :P nobody cant go from this wall
You (5/21/2007 1:55:50 AM)
i just did!
Mr. Honor [LDK] (5/21/2007 3:22:24 AM)     GOOD     BAD
how? show me again
You (5/21/2007 11:19:45 AM)
2007-05-21 - Todays News

* 02:27:37: Support lost a battle against Ate from Mr. Legionas. The army escaped to Death Mine. We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.
* 03:00:27: All men in Support have died!


I would like your kingdom to explain that. It was only a scout. You got scouts in our core and we do not attack them.
Mr. Honor [LDK] (5/21/2007 11:45:45 AM)     GOOD     BAD
I am sorry for that :( i speak with LEgionas



2. I have cleared the area on the east personally.  I have seen only IE scouts, by lanchong and Blood rogue.  NO BACCUS SCOUT!  NO Cities!

I messaged Honor to explain to me how that baccus scout in the east passed thru their walls, when its very clear that those walls do block!  And they let another Scout pass thru the west.  Baccus was able to scout our walls on that area.  It puzzles me why baccus would choose that route.  When in fact, they can freely go thru the walls that do not block and enter our core. 

That is another lie!  They clearly let baccus monk pass thru the walls.  Those walls were built before Baccus was in the south


3. I personally saw Fra taking IE cities in the east. Call me paranoid.  But i think Baccus Monk is planning to build an armory in that area to attack us on that side!


LDK clearly went behind Mirror's back.  Whether its the King or one of their Viceroy, IT DOESNT MATTER!  Do not take Mirror for a fool.  And it amuses me, how come you are posting in the forums now when you are very hard to reach in pms. 

DIE LDK! 


18:57:07 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Patas:

South

Commander: Mr. Draiken
Kingdom: Dark Blood
Size: Corps (Around 50,000)
Status: Moving South
Kingdom Banner

Send Mr. Draiken a message

"we dont have DB armies in our territory"

I dont know, how u can explain how this army come so close!

 

and Haywood, some of Baccus scouts came to that areas then our walls was not built yet. Now u blame us for what? for scouts? scouts not armies, dont forget that


18:57:23 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

You sounded again very funny, whats the problem that honor did built walls not corectly and i cannot correct them.???

And right know i see 2 or 3 DB armies in your core so dont tell me there are none lol...

Enough of your something nothing proving facts, just come and fight. Im waiting for my death, for all those lies and bla bla bla...


19:01:40 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

To make things simple: 

Mirror has seen weird going ons in the LDK areas.  We suspect LDK in cooperating with Baccus to spy on M.  Dovydas clearly stated that they were allies.  We had prepared armies for Baccus.  But the problem was "If we attack Baccus, what if LDK decides to help their ally and attack us?"  That would be fatal to us. 

Communication with Dovydas proved futile.  Clearly Dovydas was just buying time.  Mirror even suspect that he doesnt talk to his viceroys.

So Mirror have to choose between keeping an already broken NAP or making official the breaking of the NAP.

Mirror did the right thing. 


19:03:25 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

"Enough of your something nothing proving facts, just come and fight. Im waiting for my death, for all those lies and bla bla bla..."

Lol, *beep* ass, im already in your core.  thanks to your blockers that do not block!  Its very obvious that you do not think very clearly


19:03:49 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

This is so pathetic :DDDDD

They accuse us of building not blocking walls, esspecialy for Baccus Monks??

Wow thats unheard thing, why the hell I or any my member would do that??

And as those blocks were build badly I cannot correct them, thats my and our problem, use it as an advantage, while you can...

Everybody in LDK lets DIE together. Soo threatening. You should go see a doctor Haywood. And oh yes, You first have build city LDK Sucks even we were in NAP then, i dont know i think that doesnt mean anything I guess...


19:06:51 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Toke:

Patas.. if you have learned to read all the posts to its complete.. you will see that my dear king corrected that error... We had no db lgc nor carnage scout or armies inside our territory when we was in a nap with ldk. We did indeed let them through after you broke the nap;)

this can most surely be confirmed by both DB and legc


19:08:53 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

Oh man now we were allied with Baccus because we wanted to attack you together... New one I like this mostly :DDDD Way to go man, come I wanna kiss you.

Baccus never mentioned about you to us, and here Fra clearly stated that he didnt have any interest in you.

And i didnt say such thing that we are allied against you. When he came to our core he asked for alliance I accepted it. Who can restrict me to sing NAPs MAPs with whoever I want huh??? AND I TELL YOU AGAIN THERE IS NO ARIMIES OFF BACCUS IN YOUR TERRITORY NOT EVEN SINGLE!!! or i have to say in f... Japanese that you understood??!!


19:10:30 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

Wow Toke and you want to say that DB army went that long whay in some ticks, Nice, they are fast XXX armies, prob with N2O instalment???


19:12:04 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Toke:

Actually yes... its well a good 30 40 ticks since we delceared or something.. so that makes it possible for it to move that far;)


19:15:10 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

Think something else please im waiting for more nonsences here...


19:17:25 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Toke:

yeah im waiting for some more nonsence aswell..  you got some more for me Dovydas?


19:24:04 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Spawn:

Why are you lying toke?
DB had allways had som scouts or armies in our core..
which irritaded me, since u all started to declare LDK for 2-3 baccus scouts.. while we've allways have let db or lgc wander through our boarders;)
Ure no better


19:25:12 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Dovydas:

Yes I got one here, Why dont you just come and kill us instead trying to prove your legal actions with no real Facts... Please. Im going now to have some great time by the lake, when i return tomorrow. Please conquer everything in our land with your N2O speed you have.. That I could go to Nirvana.


19:25:16 Jun 3rd 07 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

Dovydas:

This is so pathetic :DDDDD

They accuse us of building not blocking walls, esspecialy for Baccus Monks??

Wow thats unheard thing, why the hell I or any my member would do that??


No, We do not accuse you of building not blocking walls for Baccus. Im just puzzled.  there is clearly a way where Baccus can get to our area.  And yet they chose the area where LDK blockers really block.


And i didnt say such thing that we are allied against you. When he came to our core he asked for alliance I accepted it. Who can restrict me to sing NAPs MAPs with whoever I want huh??? AND I TELL YOU AGAIN THERE IS NO ARIMIES OFF BACCUS IN YOUR TERRITORY NOT EVEN SINGLE!!! or i have to say in f... Japanese that you understood??!!

I did not say army in my post.  I said scouts.  Maybe if you learn how to read and not just run your dumb mouth you would understand better.



And technically a scout is an army.  There is no option to create scout, only create Army :P


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