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Well earned victory
10:41:44 Aug 10th 10 - Mr. Barny:

It will be exceedingly difficult to deny it now.




10:57:15 Aug 10th 10 - Mr. Path:

Well by this point it is certainly not news to anyone, but having it archived in the forum is probably a good thing.  In the "very important" thread
I already stated my opinion on the matter but I might as well reiterate that this is the most pathetic effort by a round winner in...a long time.

A mediocre player with a mediocre round just feeding off allies.  Strangely fitting, considering the direction VU will head now
that everyone can multi and farm up cities to feed friends on other worlds.  The eras of the average skilled lame feeders have begun. 

I'm quite pleased with the timing of my break from the game.


11:04:07 Aug 10th 10 - Pirate Lewatha:

How did I get a sudden jump in score of attacking Karac?

It's quite obvious I'm just giving his armies exp... Which has been done for aaaaaaageeeeeees


13:41:44 Aug 10th 10 - Wolflord Karac:

And only on two armies -.-

 

Thanks path for letting me know Im mediocre, good to be at the same level as you.


13:49:40 Aug 10th 10 - Mr. Radioactive:

By a clear mile Path is far away from being a mediocre :) , imo Path deserves era win for his kickass Era :) <3


16:45:03 Aug 10th 10 - General Farming:

Every city that has Paradise in the name belonged to Rasit. So you have no idea what your talking about there, Lew was giving him exp there.

So whats the deal?


17:08:14 Aug 10th 10 - Mr. Petite Penois:

Farmlord Faggot. Terrible player for years, leader of terrible kingdoms. Manages to win an era through pure farming.


Hope it's worth it. Arguably one of the worst era winners, period.


23:47:29 Aug 10th 10 - Mr. Barny:

This is in the top 10 worst era wins. It wasn't farmed, it was fed. He won because he was fed exp and cities, and the win resulted from the former.


Also, "General Farming"; I would recommend that you simply shut the fuck and do not post again. You see, idiots like Lewatha have already come before you and made posts in other threads like "Oh I came so close to the era win but these 10 extra ticks killed my chances!", when she knows damn well that she never had a chance because her own fucking kingdom member has fed Karac 66 battle wins worth of Nazgul Exp. Then when I point this out, she denies it. Or when someone mentioned feeding to Karac, he acted like he had no clue what they were talking about. Or when Zondervan brings it up, he mentions "Oh you know just 3 14k cities fed to Lewatha".

You see, what makes this era win pathetic isn't just that Karac was fed an Era win via Exp and inactives. It is how people have reacted to it. LuLZ/RR noobs go so far as to congratulate it, and anyone in a leadership position just denied it all era.


If these kinds of tactics are now considered acceptable, I can't wait to see what next era will be like.


23:53:43 Aug 10th 10 - Ms. Kuntzz:

next era will be Fantnoobsia, think most of the others are quitting or playing lower worlds 


23:59:14 Aug 10th 10 - Mr. Jelly:

next era will be Fantnoobsia, think most of the others are quitting or playing lower worlds

So after biatching that someone farmed to era win, all the really good skillful players who'd never do such a thing will head to the lower worlds and feed off noobs?

Outstanding


00:04:09 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Kuntzz:

Bitching about being FED the era win ;)  


If you were paying attention on skype, many players were talking about quitting or playing on lower world to chat, read forum threads and generally catch up with what else you can do when fed up with VU before the era even started ^^


00:14:26 Aug 11th 10 - General Farming:

I am zondervan you fucking dumb ass.

And if anyone is wondering, I was yet again asked to join DOA. But hey, i dont join pieces of shit like Barny. Good job feeding those last era when you went "inactvie". Now your dead and someone did it, its bad? Grow the fuck up.

its people like you that have ruined this game adn caused so many to quit, its simply not fun anymore and is becoming garbage. Dont dare blame zeta, he trys to change the game for what he thinks is for the better.

Its the PLAYERS, Look in the damn mirror before you post on forums, how about that? I myself know how i am and i hate it, but what about you and the rest of the sorry VU world?

 

I know of only a handleful players that are legit good players. The rest of you can show it for i fucking care. use to love to play this game as did many, now i could careless if it was here or not. Nothing but a bunch of low life scums trying to make an online name


00:26:34 Aug 11th 10 - Duke Drakos:

Weird, Kaka goes on suicide run and loses many battles against another kingdom yet Karac gets the wins in the above posts. Karac takes Raist cites yet its feeding by someone else. LOL

Go lay the fukc down and stop posting brief snapshots of the era you moron. I can slant any era by a few screenshots. Where's all the screenshots of Karacs 500k's and hordes taking Glad cities??  Huh? Hard to take an unbiased screenshot when your going down on Cobra isn't it?


02:04:26 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Barny:

General Farming- Idiot, I recognized that you are Zondervan. The title "General", as well as posts about how you intend to quit and farm lower worlds made it all too obvious. You were asked to join DOA as a joke, which you will recognize in due time if you do not actually leave and were just whoring yourself out for attention. I went inactive last era, and I also said why in another thread. I am sure you read it. Do I agree with being kicked from DOA and fed to Raistlin? No. But to be fair, I left on short notice and did not notify anyone in DOA.


People like me have not ruined the game. I honestly would have preferred not to have posted this, but it had to be done. You as well as many other denied it, and I wanted it to be crystal clear and archived, so that years from now people will know why there was an Era of Karac and there will be no debate. If people quit because I posted this, then so be it; it would only help to purge this community. The rest of your rant is hard to translate, but you do mention something about good and legit players; either this a highly ironic statement or you are admitting that you are a bad and illegitimate player. Either way, it matters little. You are leaving VU, and in your last era you led a mediocre kingdom that did nothing noteworthy save for feeding someone an era win; and then denied it.

Drakos- Kaka clearly fed Karac exp. So did Lewatha, so did someone else I did not have LoS on. You absolutely cannot deny that. Was Raist's shit feeding? That is subjective, but it was worth including, because almost all of the land went to Lewatha and Karac; which must have been a conscious decision. Was my initial post one sided? Of course, it was made to prove a point. May Karac have attacked Gladiators successfully? Yes, but that is not justification to feed a player Exp and cities, and consequentially an era win. It may be hard to understand such a concept when you are going down on Karac.


At any rate, you can all get as angry as you like. Karac was fed an era win, and you cannot deny it. Denying it outright or lying about the scale of the feeding does little, save for making you look like idiots.


02:55:46 Aug 11th 10 - General Farming:

First first paragraph didnt bother reading the rest. And wasnt a joke, you are the joke. Ask your DOA vices and fellow kd members.

 


03:21:54 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Barny:

Excellent rebuttal, it reeks of defeat.


The era ended. Can you quit the game now?


03:27:26 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Samual:

Tomorrow I think I will decide whether I will stay till next era or not as look


Current date: 2010-08-11 02:16:32 (VU Day 1047)

So according to this the era has stopped, though at the same time it is still going as I can still move my armies, take cities, destroy armies, cast spells etc just like normal. I also am not sure about making a new kingdom yet due to the fact I am not sure if my members will be able to come with me as they can only join once era end. Also according to this the era is till slowly going by...

News
The current game (era) will last for -0.5 more day(s) (-12h). There are currently 84 players online.

So it is just becoming ridiculous all these updates are coming to the game and it is making it to the primary backbone of the game, what is to have an era, make armies, cities etc all screwed up

To be honest I think all these updates are not needed and right now I would much rather it goes back to how it used to be without this stupid 'character' thing and all this news update and stuff..


07:50:46 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Whywasibannedlewatha:

23:47:29 Aug 10th 10 - Mr. Barny:

This is in the top 10 worst era wins. It wasn't farmed, it was fed. He won because he was fed exp and cities, and the win resulted from the former.


Also, "General Farming"; I would recommend that you simply shut the fuck and do not post again. You see, idiots like Lewatha have already come before you and made posts in other threads like "Oh I came so close to the era win but these 10 extra ticks killed my chances!", when she knows damn well that she never had a chance because her own fucking kingdom member has fed Karac 66 battle wins worth of Nazgul Exp. Then when I point this out, she denies it. Or when someone mentioned feeding to Karac, he acted like he had no clue what they were talking about. Or when Zondervan brings it up, he mentions "Oh you know just 3 14k cities fed to Lewatha".

You see, what makes this era win pathetic isn't just that Karac was fed an Era win via Exp and inactives. It is how people have reacted to it. LuLZ/RR noobs go so far as to congratulate it, and anyone in a leadership position just denied it all era.


If these kinds of tactics are now considered acceptable, I can't wait to see what next era will be like.




Please quote me where I deny Karac being fed cities for the win? Please quote me where I say I didn't feed Karac exp? Stop putting words in my mouth and go get some achievements in this game before you start pulling one on me.


07:54:13 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Iron Maiden:

oh, I forgot one part, I gave about 4 of his armies exp, each of 1500 advents... all the rest of the wins he got from Glads (afaik.)


13:24:57 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Jelly:

Mr. Barny
.... I wanted it to be crystal clear and archived, so that years from now people will know why there was an Era of Karac and there will be no debate.

Errr, we're playing an online game here, Mr B, not making history for future generations.  Have you nothing important in RL to get a sense of perspective over? I know for a fact that Karac has, so that's another win for him over you


14:58:56 Aug 11th 10 - Wolflord Karac:

Lew is the only one who fed me exp. Lets get that clear, and it was on THREE armies. THREE armies of 2k advents, idiot. The rest of the time she sat there and did nothing, I gained a total of 24 XP from that.

And we seem to be forgetting I was #1 for almost the entire era, even before I farmed -.- Get over it, you suck, should be used to it by now....


18:49:06 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Scipio:

Let's put a stop to all this fakery, Karak You WON,
... but its getting boring now, I personally saw a lot more than Barney posted happening in the RR/Lulz backyard, just did not know to take screen shots and do comparisons like he did - I can understand tho why it was done and hopefully that point is clear to all and we can all resume in the coming eras, hopefully, to some legitimate gameplay
... and people now know to start making and saving comparisons and screenshots so that come era end the truth can be revealed and people making silly denials will be seen as nothing more than that.

General farming has already come clean to an extent so no disrespect meant here but don't bother continueing the denials and lame excuses - accept your win and shush-up


18:57:24 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Admirable:

"I can understand tho why it was done"

As can I. Karac lacks the fortitude required to earn a win through the way of conquest.



"resume in the coming eras to some legitimate gameplay"


Unlikely, now that our esteemed fellow VUers supporting this "win" have assisted in paving the way for all scrubs and nobodies to achieve skilless era wins.


18:58:28 Aug 11th 10 - Wolflord Karac:

Well hey Admirable, you can go ahead and win one now too.....


19:14:28 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Admirable:

I would love to, Karac, as long as you are the one feeding me. Maybe, if I'm lucky, I can even get the same amount of applause as you did from the revered members of the VU community... oh wait...


19:18:36 Aug 11th 10 - Wolflord Karac:

Revered? Who, you, swifty, barny and venomz? You guys are revered? Holy god, please stop, I can't stop laughing, I'm almost peeing.....


21:02:38 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Jelly:

What is all this carp about "the way of conquest" anyway?

From the first post in the thread "What is VU" (written by Zeta and he should know):

 Visual Utopia is a fantasy web game played in your browser. It has an advanced map based on asp and javascript, so you do not need any plugins or downloads to play it!
The goal of the game is to grow an empire stronger then everyone else’s, using strategy and politics.

Nowhere (except in some players mind) does it say the aim is to "win by fighting".  Whatever happened, Karac built the strongest empire (as measured by the game) last era. 

Some of you may not agree with his strategy, but the ONLY point of this game is to find a strategy that works.  He did, you guys didn't cos you were too blind / stupid / neanderthal to look beyond "if it moves, hit it". So he won. 

Simples.



21:35:56 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Kuntzz:

and yet you whine about Fate and Fear NAPing strategy

lmao


21:37:27 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Scipio:

I virtually totally agree with you Mr. Jelly, brilliant observation, deduction and summarisation
... but (always is one or two ;) why deny the methods used especially as some of them have been in widespread use though not exactly in the same class, type or qty's used in Karacs case, along with a few other individuals whom I will not bother to point out as it just fuels more arguement ?

I can only arrive at one reason for the denial which, imo, applies to all, people prefer a win brought about through genuine attacks on whoever the enemy is percieved to be and not a win based on attacks against a NAP partner.

I have put a suggestion forward regarding Zeta implementing a NAP management module which, if implemented, will stop this kind of win in future - I hope Zeta is able to implement it - as though people will always find other ways of beating the system - this would be one major door shut on this type of win which many do not consider to be genuine and for good reason - and this irrespective of whoever the win had gone to by anyone using such tactics.

Let's all get together to help erradicate the game of other flawed methods by not only pointing all the exploits out to create a more even playing field - but also by putting forward methods that Zeta can  implement in code to close them up.

I personally am now of the feeling that I can never achieve a win unless I join in utilising these same methods but I also realise that to do so and take a win would also take away any personal gratification I would otherwise have felt from such a win.

I rest, the ball is now in your court - do what you may with it - but if you prefer a more even playing field for all please hit that ball in Zeta's direction with your suggestions/recomendations in the relevant thread (Suggestions and Improvements )and garner support from the community at large and I am pretty sure Zeta and many other genuine players would appreciate it.


22:22:28 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Kuntzz:

genuine players as opposed to what? fake ones? 


22:29:12 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Scipio:

People willing to play a more genuine game, if I need to explain any further I'll end it here by saying "go figure"
... and if you can't, tough luck - sorry


22:37:30 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Jelly:

and yet you whine about Fate and Fear NAPing strategy

lmao

Did I?  Where???


22:46:06 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Kuntzz:

Genuine as defined by whom? the vast majority of VU players who do not agree on  anything? 


>>>this thread is to flame or support Karac's win<<<
need I explain any further? :p

If you really think your ideas are that great >>> 

Forums / Suggestions and Improvements


22:49:20 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Kuntzz:

that was a pluralis maiestatis "you", similiar to a royal "we" Jelly :p 

you can either be a you or not ;)



22:51:59 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Scipio:

If you want to flame or support Karacs win, feel free, go ahead

But don't focus on my posting and repeat suggestions I have made parrot fashion - my aim is to assist in improving the game however I can and garner support for said objective - focus on your aim if you do have one, I sure can't make it out.


22:55:29 Aug 11th 10 - Ms. Kuntzz:

you're pretty full of your self Scipio, you might want to take a dump to relieve some of the pressure?


you're still posting in the wrong forum to achieve your objective


23:17:21 Aug 11th 10 - Endless Dream:

Scipio, ignore that character Kuntzz, she has yet to develop her taunt/rebuttal skills  (just dont tell her kingdom mates the kunt credits are fake)... please continue, I'm still waiting for Jelly to clue in


23:59:40 Aug 11th 10 - Mr. Jelly:

Breaking news!!!!

Spokesman for Iraq forces says the Allies didn't really win!


Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, otherwise known as Comical Ali, broke his 7 year silence today in a statement released from his mother's basement.  Talking exclusively to this reporter, al-Sahhaf insisted that the Allies didn't really win the Iraq war because they cheated.

"Look," he said, "anyone could win by massing huge resources before they even lifted a finger in battle.  We all do it and there's nothing wrong with that. 

But where the Allies went too far is that they practiced against each other to gain experience in things they called 'NATO Joint Exercises'.  Our brave Iraqi troops were picked off the streets and sent into battle to take their chances with no expereince whatsoever.  How could they possibly compete with the treacherous Allied tactics?"

Asked to explain further, the Iraqi ex-foreign minister opened a photograph album and said "Look, I even have pictures with useful notes on them!"










"So you see," he continued, "the Allies may say that they beat us but it isn't true.  The Iraq army deserved the win because they were much better really, and all of the bits of the world that matter know it.  It's just that the Allies didn't play by the rules we thought they should.  The infidels!!!"

When asked for comment, a spokesman for the Pentagon said "Whatever.  We did what had to be done to win.  End of."


00:34:26 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Scipio:

Wow, That explains the various so called "Freindly Fire" incidents by the Americans on our British forces among others
... experience, a lame excuse for their mistakes and the lives lost therein

- please do not bring real war into this to back up silly pathetic arguements, it has no relevance and just brings the painful reminders of trigger happy  hobbos and the injustices of war back to haunt some of us.


00:41:43 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Garret Jax:

Well, he is right. people are whining, for what? The guy won, get over it and just try to win again, when I used to play, i saww this done all the time with no winin.


00:48:46 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Scipio:

Mr Jax, I hope you are not reffering to me when you say "get over it" in support of that last post by Jelly - it indicates you don't have a clue and have neither read my postings
... and what relevance does bringing real war have in assisting his argument - all negative - the only similarity between Karaks win being "Friendly Fire" and if you want the facts on that go to WikiLeaks
... maybe then you will get a clue for by all indications you have none atm


00:53:01 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Cobra:

I was in the military also, and served in the war, stop trying for sympathy. I understand exactly whats going on, and if you rely on WikiLeaks for your info, I pity you.

He is allowed to use what he will, as is your grail WikiLeaks. He makes a humorous point. Plain and simple.


00:55:33 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Arthur Has Lynns Jonny Pickle:

WikiLeaks is horrible.  They murder people.


00:56:34 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Cobra:

Yet thats ok, making jokes bout friendly fire, hold the fecking phone!


00:59:20 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Jelly:

Errr, the relevence was in Comical Ali's (quite famous) statements at the time that things weren't how everyone else knew they really were, along wiuth the fact that all armies everywhere gain experience by practicing "against" allies. 

I spent a good part of my RL doing just that, as well as having real people trying to plant real bombs to blow me up (not that it was personal), for which we also practiced against allies in order to gain experience.

As for friendly fire, I'm not sure how you made that leap but I'm genuinely sorry if I touched a nerve.


01:00:07 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Cobra:

Dont apologize, he'll just antagonize you for that as well.


01:06:39 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Jelly:

:-)  I'm nothing if not magnanimous. 

Seriously, I didn't intend to hit a raw spot but, going by the attitude of  squaddies I've known with bits missing over the years, I'm quite surprised by the reaction even if it was a red-hot poker in the goolies :S 

One of them had lost those as well :P


01:13:58 Aug 12th 10 - Mr. Scipio:

Yeah, I get where your coming from Jelly, just lets keep it in game pls.


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