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What is the point ....
00:23:27 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Paul Mcc:

of this game anymore?

It's being dominated by tossers who attack people straight OOP - the same tossers are now spread to ALL the worlds and new players don't have a chance.

Really going for good now (like a lot of established players who don't seem to be around anymore) and good luck in recruiting new if it keeps up like this.

VU?  RIP.

Donut


00:27:46 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Air:

As i said in the msg, u start in the middle of our core, u and lady galadriel, both being orc, and u didnt make any contact, what did u expect?
use ur brains pal.


00:39:40 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Paul Mcc:

Not sure why I'm bothering to answer - guys like you do your own thing anyway without any thought of the effects.  But, Zeta hasn't deleted my account yet so may as well use the time till he does.

As you also said in your message (or words to this effect):

"you think you're the first we killed OOP?  It gives us a kick and makes us feel well 'ard to come online and attack people clearly much weaker than us.  My therapist says it's to do with my (well founded) feelings of inadequacy in real life but what does she know?"


Oh, and the word is "your" not "ur" - "ur" is a sound made by neanderthals.


00:45:13 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Aligreat:

Wow donut.....wow.

Just cus u suck OOP doesnt mean you should make a thread and try to blame it on other players.

You have been around long enough. You should have picked up some survival skills.

And what world did this happen?

 


00:46:04 Apr 4th 08 - Duke Arzoon:

Hence his use of it Donut : ) JK, I thought it was funny though :P

I thought you and Galadrial were gone though, why are you not in PKS?


00:53:55 Apr 4th 08 - Dreadlord Actively Inactive:

You should know by now that people always try to secure their core Donut. Nobody likes wildcards next to their mines.


00:53:59 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Air:

Mr. Paul Mcc

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4/4/2008 12:39:40 AMNot sure why I'm bothering to answer - guys like you do your own thing anyway without any thought of the effects.  But, Zeta hasn't deleted my account yet so may as well use the time till he does.

As you also said in your message (or words to this effect):

"you think you're the first we killed OOP?  It gives us a kick and makes us feel well 'ard to come online and attack people clearly much weaker than us.  My therapist says it's to do with my (well founded) feelings of inadequacy in real life but what does she know?"


Oh, and the word is "your" not "ur" - "ur" is a sound made by neanderthals.

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right...


00:57:39 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Paul Mcc:

Slight fallout with PKS Arzoon - to do with integrity & all that.  Don't want to open old wounds cos it was a simple difference of opinion (and some of the company they were keeping)

As for world etc - Mantrax, and OOP survival skills don't stretch to 2.5k ponys using multiple BTs to hit, while hitting you with multiple freeze and ROF - only way to combat that OOP is to buy BTs right the way through and frankly, I've got better stuff to spend on :P

Still, if kicking people that much weaker than themselves gives someone a sense of self-worth, far be it for me to disrupt their counselling ;)


00:59:47 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Air:

and what did i hit with multiple freeze and ROF? your moving armies maybe? towards my mines perhaps?
good reasoning dude :p


01:02:29 Apr 4th 08 - Duke Greater Penor:

"Oh, and the word is "your" not "ur" - "ur" is a sound made by neanderthals.

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right..."

Hey Donut, Air agrees with you!



01:03:09 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Phoenix Highlander:

you dont need to buy bt's for that. i can get around 5k ghosts oop and enough magic to freeze a little without buying BT's im always in mant save this era died off. =-)


01:06:09 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Might the God of Cows:

and what did i hit with multiple freeze and ROF? your moving armies maybe? towards my mines perhaps?
good reasoning dude :p


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You took 4 of my towns in 1 tick with the same army :P


01:10:30 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Air:

Mr. Might the God of Cows

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4/4/2008 1:06:09 AMYou took 4 of my towns in 1 tick with the same army :P

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cool, since its about 3 ticks of walk between your spread out cities, that tells us i must have had about 12 bts, and i didnt even notice!


01:13:09 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Paul Mcc:

edited for network hang & double post


01:13:36 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Paul Mcc:

That'd be those 2 /2 ghosts against the 6/4 ponys Mr P?  Not counting whatever mil level he's on by then.  Oh, and just having them in the right town by luck.  Or are you talking 5k L5 or 6 ghosts in every town?  If so, I'm impressed.

And yes, those wouyld be the armies Mr Air-head.  The ones that only moved out when it was totally obvious that you were going to attack me. 

If you use online to make up for something that's missing between your legs in rl then good luck to you, but there's porn sites you could go to for that without spoiling VU.

Try:

http://www.ihavenoballsexceptwhenonmycomputer.com


01:29:57 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Bintok:

paul mcc *beep*. You act so *beep*ing inteligent but all you do is whine and offend people. If you're quiting this game save some face and just quit already, VU will be better off without you.

Oh and you say that people dont have a life thats why they make up for it here? so what are you doing? you're pathetic


01:52:46 Apr 4th 08 - Duke Arzoon:

Well if Donut doesn't have a life thats fine cause he doesn't have a life with a certain other person.

Not me... Galadriel... perverts


03:00:36 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Clamps The Redeemed:

Ermm, yeah I would be inclined to try to make nice with neighbors if I was one or two people in a kd. In fact...no matter who you are or how you want to word the flaming on forums, no one should expect to make it far when solo-playing or close to it.


03:17:45 Apr 4th 08 - Lady Vatenkeist:

Solo playing is fun, but you forgot three important things donut.

1 location
2 location
3 location


05:48:08 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Justin:

paul mcc, ur jsut proving to everyone ur a sore loser and none of us would give u the slightest chance to stay alive oop. How is it that the rest of us can survive oop, but u cant?maybe cause we have common sense not to build were other ppl have built, especially a kingdom.


07:09:41 Apr 4th 08 - Duke Greater Penor:

@Justin; In the quiet words of virgin Mary... Come again...


07:21:26 Apr 4th 08 - Prince Gorris Septim:

Donut, the game is turning into sour milk. There is hardly any improvement every era, and even when there is, it is small, insignificant, or pointless, like adding pictures to the buildings and troops, it's cool, but it doesn't really add anything besides a sense of knowing what your men look like. ZeTa doesn't really listen to the ideas, and that prevents the game from getting bigger, which is why I sort of stopped playing and decided to stay on the forums.


07:24:15 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Justin:

Mr. Paul Mcc

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4/3/2008 4:23:27 PM
of this game anymore?

It's being dominated by tossers who attack people straight OOP - the same tossers are now spread to ALL the worlds and new players don't have a chance.

Really going for good now (like a lot of established players who don't seem to be around anymore) and good luck in recruiting new if it keeps up like this.

VU?  RIP.

Donut

paul mcc its called learning from experience. No one is supposed to go easy on anyone cause u just wont learn.

Mr. Paul Mcc

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4/3/2008 5:13:36 PM
That'd be those 2 /2 ghosts against the 6/4 ponys Mr P?  Not counting whatever mil level he's on by then.  Oh, and just having them in the right town by luck.  Or are you talking 5k L5 or 6 ghosts in every town?  If so, I'm impressed.

And yes, those wouyld be the armies Mr Air-head.  The ones that only moved out when it was totally obvious that you were going to attack me. 

If you use online to make up for something that's missing between your legs in rl then good luck to you, but there's porn sites you could go to for that without spoiling VU.

Try:

http://www.ihavenoballsexceptwhenonmycomputer.com

and he is just proving he is a sore loser when his armies get attack, Penor. He keeps this up he wont have any dignity left.


07:24:53 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Elsin:

I'm glad he didn't listen to most of the suggestions suggested last year...

Edit - no need to write in red. Makes peoples eyes go O.o


07:35:12 Apr 4th 08 - Prince Gorris Septim:

Lol, Elsin's right, my eyes hurt after reading that, I suggest highlighting in yellow...easier on the eyes...


07:49:43 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Justin:

 

There. it hurt my eyes to

Mr. Paul Mcc

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4/3/2008 4:23:27 PM
of this game anymore?

It's being dominated by tossers who attack people straight OOP - the same tossers are now spread to ALL the worlds and new players don't have a chance.

Really going for good now (like a lot of established players who don't seem to be around anymore) and good luck in recruiting new if it keeps up like this.

VU?  RIP.

Donut

paul mcc its called learning from experience. No one is supposed to go easy on anyone cause u just wont learn.

Mr. Paul Mcc

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4/3/2008 5:13:36 PM
That'd be those 2 /2 ghosts against the 6/4 ponys Mr P?  Not counting whatever mil level he's on by then.  Oh, and just having them in the right town by luck.  Or are you talking 5k L5 or 6 ghosts in every town?  If so, I'm impressed.

And yes, those wouyld be the armies Mr Air-head.  The ones that only moved out when it was totally obvious that you were going to attack me. 

If you use online to make up for something that's missing between your legs in rl then good luck to you, but there's porn sites you could go to for that without spoiling VU.

Try:

http://www.ihavenoballsexceptwhenonmycomputer.com

and he is just proving he is a sore loser when his armies get attack, Penor. He keeps this up he wont have any dignity left.


10:18:00 Apr 4th 08 - The Architect:

Soo, you all realize that what he is saying, which is definitely true, can and does have a profound effect on the game and the new players attracted to it, or lack there-of.  And also, you guys keep proving him more and more right with every post.  Generally, if an un-tagged is in our core, and does not seem to present a threat, I will attempt to give him several options that would better suit his position.  I think if more people did this, this game would be much more enjoyable.  People, myself included, forget far too easily that this is just a game, and killing new players OOP sucks all the fun out of it.


10:31:01 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Air:

architect, sigh, ur missing the whole thing here, i knew exactly who donut and galadriel where, especially with galadriels history showing. = not new players.
they restarted in elements core as orcs, not engaging any contact, since both of them are experienced you can only draw one conclusion, they where actually thinking they had the skill to pull a core jump off.
enough of this bull*beep* now


10:40:47 Apr 4th 08 - Sir Son of Salaracen Vineraven Fro:

 That my be true Air but its besides the point.
The game is suffering from people having a lack in self restraint.
Sure it may seem fun to own new players but what is the point.
I feel that we should be playing roles such as being an elf or an orc, in this game rather than playing as someone who must do whatever it takes to win.


10:52:04 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Threehundredpoundlezzie:

"self restraint" in a game promoting conquest and warfare?

Please say you are kidding and that the choice of words was random... accidental...

*rollseyes*




11:09:09 Apr 4th 08 - Sir Evans:

i got halfway through and i got bored, but i got to the point where he said about 2500 ponies OOP.

So the hell what, i ten dot sit around with 3k rockthrowers... its nothing special , no BT's needed you just gotta plan everything to a tee.

And about all this owning new players.... they join a KD theyll be fine, isnt tht the point.... Or they go to a lower world like Zetamania and theyre less likely to get killed off.


11:28:11 Apr 4th 08 - Sir Slade:

Well being attacked OOP is part of the Game

if your not ready for it you will get killed


11:55:41 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Gothrim:

I feel there are issues which could be discussed, but this isn't it. If you are starting out new, you must join the best kd you can manage. I met up with the awesome Sp00n on my second day and managed to convince him to let me join Music. Sure I was far away from the core my first era and got killed and killed again, but that was half the fun. I never looked back. Music->  BoW-> Phi-> Abydos-> Music. The love of Music never left me, see? ;)

We must put that up in big bold letters for all newcomers:

Join the best kingdom you can asap!

Issues which could be discussed are whether (a) Lack of walls and small maps together are leading to smaller kds getting steamrollered too quickly on the lower worlds this era; (b) Nerfing of dwarves are hitting good, loyal but less active players who otherwise make a contribution to the game but at a slower rate. However I guess those belong in another thread.


12:37:40 Apr 4th 08 - Lady Vatenkeist:

I always try to help them by sending them to the proper world. ^^


13:34:43 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Dolfyn:

well, the lower worlds aren`t what they used to be. A while ago, they were test fields and training camp for what Fantasia was. Meanwhile the whole thing was messed up. Now Fantasia is still Fantasia, but all the rules are changed. OOP wars are heavier and unforgiven more than ever. A tiny slip and half of a KD core is infested. No walls makes the whole game harder and tactical oriented. U can`t go anymore on a solo hunt (exceptions are newcomers to Fantasia who don`t know the drill, e.g. Wolf from Carnage and the kd of DF last era, who alone wiped the whole KD) because everyone is watching and merging is more essential than ever.
Anyway, Gothrim thread from last era was a very good idea. A training camp is a very good idea.


15:50:55 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Hemmer:

Why do people even fight anymore? Sorry, I don't get the point. :P


16:12:39 Apr 4th 08 - Lady Quietone:

I dont like Donut at all..but all flames aside, i do share his sentiment....the game is starting to really suck tbh-  the removal of walls was a big mistake to me.  You only do well if you land in the right spot, and have the most active players...even with that skills in the game hardly count for much anymore at all...

It's forcing more and more part time players to go to lower worlds, making those worlds unplayable for the newer kingdoms.....and it's just an endless ugly cycle to me.... something needs to really change lots of ppl are leaving VU all together or thinking about it-  it's no longer an enjoyable hobby it's more of a full time job if you want to survive the eras


16:20:50 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Dolfyn:

I totally agree with my fair Lady Quietone! :D


16:22:29 Apr 4th 08 - Prince Gorris Septim:

I agree with her too, hell, I stopped playing, the forums are the only reason I stay.


16:36:41 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. William The Evil One:

why in gods name would you wanne start on Mantrax after day 250? o.0 and then you find it weird you get killed OOP. oke ill tell you something. there are way more players then there  used to be. when i started it still was hard to fill in Nirvana. more players need more top worlds mantrax isn't the *beep* world it was in the oldies..


16:38:22 Apr 4th 08 - Sir Soccerispeaceful:

sausage roll, f*ck you.

mod, please remove that pic.


16:40:02 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Fire:

Why?


16:40:45 Apr 4th 08 - Sir Sausage Roll:

Its called having a joke...
I agree with Q and William though

{ If that picture has offended anyone than im sorry }


18:28:59 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Justin:

i love that picture, its funny.william thats why u join a kingdom. so u dont get killed. if join a kingdom that has defenses, and a core set up then u can survive oop. but if ur just gonna sit there with 2.5k ponies and take on all of Mant. or wateber world ur on, then ur a dumb ass and deserve to die. Whne i first started in era 29 nobody gave me a break. i was fighting Templars Crusade, and Three Musketeers until i joined angels.


18:44:18 Apr 4th 08 - Duke Argyle:

How come Paul Mcc didn't contact and tried to make a deal with elements then? Like "let me leave your core and settle up, I will be no trouble for you" it's very simple and many good players usually allow that.


18:58:42 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. William The Evil One:

in era 29 things were harder allready yes.. but the time i started you could just start (except on fant) and play a good amount of hours OOP and then join to see whats your best option.. well times have changed..


18:58:43 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. William The Evil One:

in era 29 things were harder allready yes.. but the time i started you could just start (except on fant) and play a good amount of hours OOP and then join to see whats your best option.. well times have changed..


20:37:00 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Dolfyn:

uh .. ppl .. this is a war game after all .. kill or get killed is truer than ever ... KD or no KD ... the same rules are applied in the survival of a player or the entire KD. Kill whoever is a threat ... keep the allies close and whore a lot, but with common sense still ... :D


20:40:46 Apr 4th 08 - Mr. Justin:

times havent changed. if you have commen sense you can play a long time posibbly the entire era without joining a kingdom. But if you are stupid enough when you are a new player to take on the entire Map instead of making allies well then you deserve to die. Those who think they deserve a break because they just got oop then they need a wake up call. I had 2 income citie, and an armory set up with a 10k army of lvl 2 with humans when i got oop in era 29 and it was my first time. so no one has the right to complain about getting attacked oop if you make enemies and your dumb enough not to train soldiers. without soldiers you will die, commen sense people.


20:51:10 Apr 4th 08 - Sir Soccerispeaceful:

10k lvl 2 coming oop? must have had a LONG time in protection.............


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