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Why Helping Kds is NOT worth
22:46:18 Nov 24th 09 - Mr. Yellow Bean:

Why Helping Kds is NOT worth it .....

1. No one appretiates it .......

Mr. Deadly (11/16/2009 8:06:56 AM) GOOD BAD
sorry sir , but looks like i won't be able to open clock for you . sorry.

2. people always hate it if you take time to prepare ...


Mr. Slawter (11/24/2009 10:36:11 PM) GOOD BAD
I see that Phi havent left you alone like we thought.

Well, im glad cuz thats what you deserve for not fighting wen we all had a chance.

SIncerely
Slawter

3. They dont use the word please .....

Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau (11/16/2009 1:20:12 AM) GOOD BAD
fight PHI!!!



4. And people not apprecating the fact you waged war on a kd over 10 times your own size .....

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00:23:17 Nov 22nd 09 CRAZY had great allies this era.  Between jellybean burning the ateam blocker sealing our core to the north, fightclub marching past PHI armies, and Domination opening gates we really had only no complaints about Beserk.  because they caused us no harm.  suppose that is par for the course.  the best allies are far away allies.



Was this worth it ....... NO .....


23:00:42 Nov 24th 09 - Mr. William And His Pink Rhino:

pity bean, i hope you did have fun fighting against Ravage though :-)


23:04:13 Nov 24th 09 - Mr. Yellow Bean:

yea ... but armas messed up and its just not fun playing on any more .... i cant wait for next era ....


23:33:07 Nov 24th 09 - Mr. Palp Lost His Marbles:

and mr brick taking one of our cities too...

 

oh and not warring ravage oop even though they didnt want formal relations and giving our word we would never attack them...and watch them let phi through when we should of taken their blockers to secure our core but of course we wouldnt because we said we wouldnt. also we would never of allowed anyone to have a mage cities that had even the remotest chance of warring us( and phi never got one going)....

rule number 1 of vu i guess, never let anyone survive oop who isnt offically napped with you. doesnt matter if they are your former kingdom mates and even former leader of the alliance.

at least phi came from the onset to hit us and, abi aside, did it right. basically let phi through to weaken us and from within decided free cities and farm city over and war us when we had only the slightest chance of success even with fight club's loyal help.

dont complain too much bean, i was changing my opinion of you due to your efforts helping us. one rave post which the member apologised for later about doesnt make what we all think.


23:38:25 Nov 24th 09 - Mr. William And His Pink Rhino:

we didn't even have blockers XD


00:24:23 Nov 25th 09 - Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau:

mate,  I really appeciate it.  look at the long term.  eras are short.  the game is long.  I owe you big time even though you didnt wipe out phi or anthing.  don't think we'll forget even if i sounded sour. I wasn't in a bad mood because of you.  just a bit upset after having the people i sarted the game with form a new kingdom and attack mine after being promised we would help them by not attacking.

anyway it workd out for the best.  we have a new kingdom and you got extra members.  it is not like we were going to win the era or anything.  it is all experience and adds character like general Zee says. 


03:04:57 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. Yes Twamao:

do you want to form a new kd for next era mr yellow bean?


07:52:01 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. Palp Lost His Marbles:

ravage had plenty of blockers, they didnt need them from us as we would never of attacked....clearly they didnt need them from phi either so they were in a darn positionn with two neighbours who didnt attack them while apparently napping either of them...then wait till one is weakened so much its carte blanche and free cities...and in they go with a "fun" war declaration. ironically it was people like doc that changed my opinion of crazy and one of the reasons i joined only to find him in another kingdom this era and choosing to war us.


09:08:25 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. Yellow Bean:

The members that jumped onto my kingdom .... id be suprised if when me and crater die they restart with us ..... :/ ...... any way hmmmmm ok thankz pycbo and palp.
And im never leaving JB ..... The fact is i love jelly beans ... crater will probley stay .
but cash, lux and brick will all problery leave me once me and crater die and not restart on new world .... :(
So is the game :) i had fun on arma till crazy didsbanded then it went pear shaped .


10:10:42 Nov 25th 09 - Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau:

I thought things were okay for you.  you got the real crazies.  ravage took the eletes.  phi took one or two.  dark got the dredges.  armageddon is still up in the air.  Fight club should contain PHI soon.  who is attacking you?


11:39:10 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. William And His Pink Rhino:

let me tell you guys this, we were planning to just suicide on you guys because we thought you were winning anyways. we just had a bad start and wanted to retry. so we thought lets attack crazy, then some of you just showed how big whinners you are. we never even expected to survive for more then a week! but well now we did it seems... so i think that all that is to blame is yourselves for making weak army's..... if i can take out city's with 150k troops in them with only 60k troops i think it says enough....


13:28:09 Nov 25th 09 - Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau:

yes we blame ourselves for being attacked by you.  mages don't have a lot of defence.  you are the failure.  If I was suciding I'd get it right.  the first time.


13:29:38 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. Palp Lost His Marbles:

well you couldnt take my cities without crushing walls, which was fair enough in doing so, except the nonly way you could crush my walls was with a mage city we wouldnt of ever let you built if we ever thought we would war you.

i dont see how you think it is ok when we were clearly losing against phi(due mainly to abi being in our core and you keeping your cities open for them to walk through easily) and we were just getting a counter offensive going which would not even result in the status quo prior being restored. i recall phi having no relations with LD a few eras back and choosing to war them and crazy to assit hellbunnies...at least in this instance they gave 24 hours notice of war...ou guys just launched on a group mad eup of ex alliance mates who never wanted to fight you and who ALLOWED you to grow and fight other battles. You exist because of our good grace, we could of taken you out in oop but we never dreamed of doing so. this is how you say thanks. it's a pretty scummy move to be honest.

what would of been fun was to join the war against phi like jelly bean and fight club did and restore arma to those who hadnt invaded it, but you chose the easy road so if you get satisfaction from that, well it sucks to be you.


13:35:51 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. William And His Pink Rhino:

luckely it wouldn't suck as much as being a dumb twat that only seems to live for a game ^^ it must suck to be you as well doesn't it ^^


13:40:02 Nov 25th 09 - Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau:

mate, I can not express my hatred.  not only to poach a bunch of members from CRAZY but to give us a line of crap about doing what is best for your kingdom and refusing to make relations with us after leaving.  I really we about to give up playing because I didn't want to attack people that I have been plaing the last year with but since you screwed us over so royally I decided to stick around and make it a pet project of mine to one up your great elite kingdom someday.


16:18:37 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. Palp Lost His Marbles:

Casting Freeze from Buttwiggle Jell upon Ravage William Sexeh Feet with 48% chance of success... and Successful!
The Ravage William Sexeh Feet from Mr. William And His Pink Rhino is now frozen for 10 day(s).

live for a game? lol

i love it when the real life arguments come in...if we are going to use them , then what ravage did is akin to giving your best friend a punch in the face for his birthday or sleeping with his girl.

the war with ravage was the last thing we expected, infact we wouldnt of ever warred you guys.

you could of warred us "for fun" from oop, you could of warred us in regards to A-team"for a reason"(weak as it would be), but no you waited until we were close to dead already to declare war on us without notice and expect us to think of it as a fun war.

my personal life, not that it is any of your business, is highly rewarding and incredibly interesting and i make postive impact on the people i meet every day who all credit me for their success. you would be extremely jealous if you knew anything about my life, but you dont. so stick to talking about gameplay.


16:27:08 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. Mavich:

I don't think anyone living that kind of life would be playing this game or at least spends the time arguing with the issue =)


16:30:30 Nov 25th 09 - Lord Wraith:

Lofl, Mavich speaks the truth :)


16:46:49 Nov 25th 09 - Mr. Palp Lost His Marbles:

well i certainly do...i have a usb modem and a laptop and vu takes little time of my life at all, unless when i have to be online for other things. i was far more active two eras ago, but then i moved to a different country so my life has changed considerably. I have promised to stick out this era,some of the people in my alliance i have known for 2-3 years. but i dont think i will be back next era anyway. i am unsure but i am a very part time player as it is...but then being a mage and filling blockers takes little time anyhow.

insults against the player's personal life are against forum rules so it is typical i guess phi support them lol


18:59:03 Nov 25th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

Mr. William And His Pink Rhino please do not participate in the flame fest. Thank you


19:13:48 Nov 27th 09 - Prince Bartimaeus The Hybrid:

Well I was in Ravage and left before the war broke out with Crazy, but all I know if Crazy was always a loyal kingdom even when Dr. was running it. I also know that Ravage is loyal kd as well. I just don't get how this IS A WAR GAME and people get mad when they get attacked??? Now Ravage had no official terms with Crazy so they weren't bond to not attacking. If Crazy didn't want them to attack they should have demanded terms, but any who my point is ITS A WAR GAME!!!!!!!!! SO DONT GET MAD WHEN PEOPLE ATTACK YOU LOL :p


20:42:20 Nov 27th 09 - Duke Ryan The Laughing Storm:

LOL Ravage is not a loyal kingdom, their actions speak for themselves. One should not need terms with a friend, some loyalties should override.


20:45:30 Nov 27th 09 - Prince Bartimaeus The Hybrid:

Hmmmm though that is true friendship is the best alliance over paper, but my point is people don't need to get mad because they were attacked when this is a war game. If you don't want to get attacked go play Farm Town on Facebook lol :p Its all fun in games mate ;) Just enjoy the game and move on


20:51:44 Nov 27th 09 - Lady Liquid Sex Drive:

RL friendship and this game should be separated

Ravage is at war with many kds they have friends in

Ravage as part of the game owed no loyalty to Crazy or Dark as the people who left did so for a reason, the fact that we did not make any pacts should have spoken loud and clear what we thought of Crazy

But I will let those who wish to flame to continue as it is no consequence or relation to RL imo


20:52:00 Nov 27th 09 - Duke Ryan The Laughing Storm:

LOL I am totally OK with warring. My point was very simple, we did not attack Ravage when we could easily have killed them early on, we did not because attacking ones friends is a shitty thing to do especially when its ganging up on them ( a one on one "fun " war wouldnt commence when one of the parties has been drained fighting someone else). apparently Ravage did not feel the same and decided that some easy cities were worth more than trust and respect that was built up over several eras and outside the game.

While I will remain friends with a few people in Ravage outside VU, I will simply no longer have anything to do with them in game and if next era we are on the same world we will kill them out of hand friend or not.


20:53:55 Nov 27th 09 - Duke Ryan The Laughing Storm:

the fact that you made no pacts was abrogated by the fact that you assured our diplo that you were making no pacts with anyone, the fact that this was clearly a lie and you made pacts with PHi speaks for itself.


20:56:27 Nov 27th 09 - Lady Liquid Sex Drive:

You have no idea what pacts were made and when so you are speaking out of assumption. We had no relations with Phi before our declaration on Crazy.



20:59:35 Nov 27th 09 - Duke Ryan The Laughing Storm:

Bullshit. the fact that they walked through your core and didnt attack you or have you attack them is pretty self evident the fact that they still arent attacking you says it all.

and you should be more careful about jumping in to defend your kingdom sometimes the things you are saying to me are not the same things that other people in your alliance say. I may trust you implicitly out of this game but when it comes to VU I will take anything anyone from ravage says with a grain of salt and most likely will not believe them.


21:02:11 Nov 27th 09 - Lady Liquid Sex Drive:

More assumptions

I know that I would not be so quick too judge honor if I were in Dark

Have a good one :)


21:30:04 Nov 27th 09 - Mr. William And His Pink Rhino:

ryan, we had no pacts with anyone before we declared war on you... ask Phi if you want to know for sure. we didn't have a blocked core so you guys could walk through as well....


22:48:51 Nov 27th 09 - Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau:

your dellaration on CRAZY is the action of a MAP.  it doesn't matter if you oicial made an agreement.  you let PHI marh many armies throuh your core. if RAVAGE is so honourable and had no"agreement" then PHI should take your cities.  if they don't then you should have done the same an stayed out of our war with them.  

if phi turns on ravage and starts taking ravage cities you will see wht we mean aboutdishonourable play.  you don't leave a kingdom, complain about dropping, get sympathy and shive them at first chance unless you want a bad reputation.


11:30:40 Nov 28th 09 - Mr. William And His Pink Rhino:

i have a feeling that the only ones that don't like us are in dark.... might be wrong though, if anyone else feels that way please tell me^^ so that bad a rep we don't have i recon.


12:16:23 Nov 28th 09 - Mr. Yellow Bean:

well i dont feel as freindly towards you lot as i did at start of era ... but that was to be expected .....
Having your citys taken off you does have that sort of impact :P


12:20:26 Nov 28th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

Awww Mr Bean you know we love you. But it is a war game.


12:23:42 Nov 28th 09 - Mr. Yellow Bean:

Yea .... i know ..... but it still hurts :P


12:32:06 Nov 28th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

Would it help to know that Mr. Boombastic and I are friends but we are pounding the crap out of each other every chance we get. hehe


13:39:59 Nov 28th 09 - Mr. Mavich:

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09:27:22 Nov 8th 09 there nubs so they dont get it. so let me say this

I DECLARE WAR on CRAZY and any KD that allies/NAP with THEM.

Uhm, I think Zero was clear in declaring that? We really didn't have any plans on invading or attacking KDs in Arma just Crazy.. or I think just Ryan.


14:17:16 Nov 28th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

Mr. Mavich

It just sounds better to some to whine and make up stuff.

Ignore the flame and whine fest if you can.


19:24:06 Nov 28th 09 - Duke Ryan The Laughing Storm:

is it just me who can actually read?

Mavich read what you just posted.

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09:27:22 Nov 8th 09 there nubs so they dont get it. so let me say this

I DECLARE WAR on CRAZY and any KD that allies/NAP with THEM.


and yet you haven't. yet one more example of good ol Phi talking out of their ass.

and for the Dr. it actually sounds better to wait until someone has exhausted their resources in a war against a larger kingdom than to declare war openly I suppose. LOL


19:37:09 Nov 28th 09 - Lady Liquid Sex Drive:

Exhausted your resources LOL  you guys were talking about how well you were doing against Phi before we entered.

It was perfectly acceptable to Ravage that Fight Club started attacking us, we didn't whine that it was dishonorable to attack a kingdom that was already at war on many fronts or that it seems that they did it for Crazy/Dark's behalf.

Live or die Ravage has nothing to be ashamed of for declaring on Crazy, or whatever you wish to call yourselves.


19:45:50 Nov 28th 09 - Mr. Mavich:

I don't know.. I don't see any Crazy KD out there anymore.. do you? I wonder what happened.. ???


02:38:02 Nov 29th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

LOL Mr Mavich

They changed names to see if you would stop attacking them. All of us can make assumptions since it seems to be the season for them.


02:42:26 Nov 29th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

Oops bad doctor. Off to play


03:20:18 Nov 29th 09 - Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau:

sounds like the doc is off his meds.  I assume you are going to start you old kingdom again since you sound like you are going CRAZY.  spin it how ever you like.

 


06:58:20 Nov 29th 09 - Mr. Von Moormzzery:

Mr. Yellow Bean, some people in this game have good memories. And they appreciate / value a kingdom that values its allies / friends and is willing to stick its neck out for them. You may think that you are getting short shrift from your current allies, but I am sure that there are some among them who really appreciate what you have done. And I am sure as well that there are some players and kingdoms out there who may not be allied with you today, but because of what you have done, will look upon you with a favourable eye tomorrow.

It is very easy to find kingdoms that would be most happy to "join in a vulture / gangbang fest".... it is much harder (extremely rare, in fact) to find a kingdom that is willing to step in to take a blow for an ally in a bad / losing position....

People can call me old school and dumb and conservative, but these are values that I (and several folks out there) would like in a future ally and friend :)


07:02:25 Nov 29th 09 - Mr. Mike Smith From Calif:

^ Agree with above


13:00:51 Nov 29th 09 - Mr. Boombastic:

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12:32:06 Nov 28th 09
Would it help to know that Mr. Boombastic and I are friends but we are pounding the crap out of each other every chance we get. hehe

yep, its all good !!

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19:37:09 Nov 28th 09
Exhausted your resources LOL  you guys were talking about how well you were doing against Phi before we entered.

It was perfectly acceptable to Ravage that Fight Club started attacking us, we didn't whine that it was dishonorable to attack a kingdom that was already at war on many fronts or that it seems that they did it for Crazy/Dark's behalf.

Live or die Ravage has nothing to be ashamed of for declaring on Crazy, or whatever you wish to call yourselves.

we are warring on many fronts too.. we just took the initiative  ;)


13:17:50 Nov 29th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

Mr. Boombastic we could whine at each other about the attacks. Naw that would be tedious.

(waves across the battlefield :)


14:35:27 Nov 29th 09 - Psycho Delic Retarded Faux Nouveau:

DARK declared on RAVAGE.  who is whining about the attacks?  We are just disappointed that the reds abandoned CRAZY and kept their intentions secret.  you claim to be so honourble but bully smaller kingdoms and couldn't stay out of CRAZY's WAR with PhI. 

you aren't whining but complaining about our opinion in the "don't help other kingdoms" is worse that what you accuse DARK of.  we jsut weren't impressed.  it seems like we keep bringing it up but it is only in response to our insults so you bring it about by your own doing.

anyway you must be dieing to tell everyone so I'll ask the million dollar question.  Why did ou leave your kingdom CRAZY?


14:46:57 Nov 29th 09 - Dr. Happy Pants:

Ok one time just for you and I will not respond here should you post to this.

We do not bully smaller kingdoms. You may not like what we do. But we do not Bully.

We have and had no NAP with Crazy so why would we tell Crazy our intentions. We declared before we struck. Many dont even do that.

What insults. We have tried to ignore most of this tantrum. The only insults that have happened were after long provocation.

No Psycho Im not dying to tell others why I left Crazy.

If you want to know, message me and I will tell you. But its just why I left not why others left. If you want to know from them - message them.

Ryan did contact me in FB and we had a discussion.

I honestly dont expect to hear from you since it is more advantageous to you to continue to vent your spleen on your alliance page, to anyone that will listen to you, in the names of your armies, and on the forums.

Do not mistake this for anything but politeness.


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