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should this game be called HU
22:43:08 Oct 6th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:

for hypocrite utopia or Naptopia or whinetopia?

Last era Fate napped a bunch of people, warred a bunch of people and held one world and farmed up some huge armies. by the time people woke up they had an impregnable fort of a world and started napping any real threats. they then dominated the game for an era.

This era a few people are trying the same thing, whats funny is that some people who whined about it last era are attempting the same thing LOL, and better yet a couple people in fate are upset at being hammered out.

heres the thing, the game is pretty much all about relations at the kingdom level and being able to play strategically as well as tactically, what we need are more alliances like ours that just have fun whether we win or lose.

either way there are some nerds who need to shut the hell up if they arent playing and there needs to be some sort of accountability for whiny forum nerds.

anyway I will end by saying, Pimple is a nerd.


22:55:11 Oct 6th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

Or if we follow those ideas, we could just do like a pee-wee tee ball league and have no winners, nor keep score?


22:56:23 Oct 6th 09 - Prince Mielo:

What really should be done is learning most of the current players some ethics. Back in the days people respected each other and respect had value (at least in a sense where they rather get killed then pussy out with a few hundred naps ...). Now a days all you guys do is whore, nap and point fingers.



22:58:40 Oct 6th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:

yay for peewee ball LOL.

Mielo, some people keep their word no matter what some people dont think their word is important, thats why you have nap breakers and rules lawyers who spam.  frankly people should just play the damn game.


22:59:12 Oct 6th 09 - Sir Epyon:

hollywood undead?


23:01:42 Oct 6th 09 - Mr. The Born Loser:

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04:56:23 Oct 7th 09
What really should be done is learning most of the current players some ethics. Back in the days people respected each other and respect had value (at least in a sense where they rather get killed then pussy out with a few hundred naps ...). Now a days all you guys do is whore, nap and point fingers.

 

Agreed. Players nowadays need to learn how to not townswap like Dark Blood or get other kingdoms to do their dirty work for them like JUICY :)

Perhaps we should do a case study of prime examples of kingdoms with all the henious qualities that you speak of. Dark Blood and JUICY would be prime examples. What say you? :P


23:04:44 Oct 6th 09 - Dark Prince Stirlin:

you sure love DB!


23:04:46 Oct 6th 09 - Mr. William The Vendingmachine:

this has been the case since the game's core gameplay was created... so this mostlikely will never change. we can keep debating this but as people leave they are replaced and the whole thing starts all over again...


23:05:04 Oct 6th 09 - Endless Death:

who is upset at being hammered out Ryan? I needs to know so I can give em some <3 and spankings :)


23:06:07 Oct 6th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:

Hey you TBL, no using examples in this thread that dont start with fate! LOL.

I find it funny that some of the worst offenders are the biggest whiners in this game.  where is  Farmer lewhina when you need her?


23:06:37 Oct 6th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:

I dont like your new name.


23:18:12 Oct 6th 09 - Prince Mielo:

Lol Tbl, pathetic ...

You do realize:
A. You weren't even playing when DB did that one townswap. Many were against it, yet it happened. I would say that we shown more loyalty and respect towards other kingdoms then you could ever possibly come up with. But then again, stating that to a man of no standards, no honour ... Is a foolish thing to do.
B. That you are the guy, who joins a kingdom and suprizingly by the end of the era, they show hardly any morals anymore? ... Not saying you haven't got a finger in that, but actually I'm sure you do.

Basically, you are a big factor in twisting this games ethics to the little or nothing as it is now.

Have a happy raging. :)


23:19:19 Oct 6th 09 - Mr. Finwe:

yeah.. there was only ever one good kd..... GOOOOOOOOO NoU! (come one i knew you were thinking of abydos)


23:19:20 Oct 6th 09 - Endless Death:

mine? or someone elses? if mine.. read Gaiman's The Sandman and you'll see I still have a few other Endless names to play :p

certainly interesting timing with this one?... or just a hunch  ^_^

One day every century, Death lives (and dies) as a mortal, in order to understand the value of the life she takes. She does this by becoming a mortal fated to die that day.


23:27:19 Oct 6th 09 - Mr. Pingvinai Daug:

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23:43:59 Oct 6th 09 - Duke Bad Kitty:

I liked dylyrias and happy meals. anyway im off to play some madden online bbib


03:26:56 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. The Born Loser:

@Mielo

I love raging. Science has proven that a little bit of adrenalin rush gets the blood pumping, the heart ticking well, and the brain developing healthily :)

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05:18:12 Oct 7th 09
A. You weren't even playing when DB did that one townswap.


History is always recorded Mielo :) There are tons of threads recording Dark Blood's devious act for posterity. All of us were not even born when the World Wars happened, yet, we all know to call them a dark and terrible period of time. Your kingdomate, Raistlin, swapping a bunch of 90K cities to rob the era win from Legend, was not a mere "one town swap" act... it was an unprecedented occurence ^_^ So we all know that Dark Blood (and its reincarnation, JUICY) is the perfect example of a prime evil :)

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05:18:12 Oct 7th 09
 I would say that we shown more loyalty and respect towards other kingdoms then you could ever possibly come up with. But then again, stating that to a man of no standards, no honour ...


I believe that ALOT of your old NAP partners did not like how you guys treated them. Especially if they may pose a stumbling block to DB's / JUICY's pursuit of an era win :)

Prince Mielo


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05:18:12 Oct 7th 09
B. That you are the guy, who joins a kingdom and suprizingly by the end of the era, they show hardly any morals anymore? ... Not saying you haven't got a finger in that, but actually I'm sure you do.


Compared with your kingdom, which actually had zero morals IN THE FIRST PLACE, I think I am pretty damn scrupulous :)


04:29:19 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. Jet:

TBL stop talking about the failed DB experiment (and its second incarnation Juicy). If you stop talking about them, their former members will go away.


15:06:48 Oct 7th 09 - Lord Wraith The Inactive:

You've gotta be sad if raging over the internet with people you'll never see in your life gives you an adrenalin rush :)


15:18:28 Oct 7th 09 - Lady Quietone:

so funny TBL jumps into this thread to bash DB and Jet follows right behind him... TBL known for cross logging with other players- known for feeding and town swapping not once...not even twice..lol and yet he jumps in here to speak of a kingdom who he had no dealings with what so ever.  Jet who cant make his mind up - and forgets completely that i was in his kingdom for a really long time and could name countless things that went on in that kingdom. 

Oddly enough the town swapping incident that TBL keeps referring to involved Legacy and was actually a town of Legacy's that they begged one of our members to help them swap between their own kingdom members and yet some how when that topic comes up it's always DB being talked badly about and not Legacy.

This game should be called hypocritical utopia if we're going to rename it.  People who would rather flame people and kingdoms for something they themselves do in the game constantly -- you both are pros at that but then we all need some accomplishment in life dont we ....

btw Jet- if DB was such a failed experiment why do you cry so much over it?


19:58:28 Oct 7th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:

PU

Penguin utopia


20:00:11 Oct 7th 09 - Sir Gingerbread Man:

PP

Pengy's Playhouse?


20:11:45 Oct 7th 09 - Duke Nukem:

TBL stop talking about the failed DB experiment (and its second incarnation Juicy).

Didnt DB pwn you along with Fant for a few eras?? :P
But let me guess you were inactive and couldnt play and your full :P


20:21:47 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. Ezatious:

lmao i can't believe people tool TBLs bait. Q loser you quit, why you checking the forum lol saaaaaaad


20:23:18 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. The Born Loser:

I was about to tell Jet that I would stop talking about that failure of a kingdom, but than Quietone is in da house! This is too good a flame opportunity to resist <3

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21:18:28 Oct 7th 09

so funny TBL jumps into this thread to bash DB and Jet follows right behind him... TBL known for cross logging with other players- known for feeding and town swapping not once...not even twice..lol and yet he jumps in here to speak of a kingdom who he had no dealings with what so ever.  Jet who cant make his mind up - and forgets completely that i was in his kingdom for a really long time and could name countless things that went on in that kingdom. 


If I had dealings with JUICY and Prosapia, that means I essentially had dealings with Dark Blood, since the essence of JUICY was the essence of Dark Blood :)

BTW, I have no clue where you got your information on me being naughty, but I have been told alot of things about you and your kingdom as well. I just only talk about the stuff that is properly recorded for history :)

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21:18:28 Oct 7th 09

 Oddly enough the town swapping incident that TBL keeps referring to involved Legacy and was actually a town of Legacy's that they begged one of our members to help them swap between their own kingdom members and yet some how when that topic comes up it's always DB being talked badly about and not Legacy.


LOL! OMG Quietone, you are hilarious :) I think if you were a lawyer on the opposite side, I would send all my juniors against you.... you are a perfect training tool for them :)

The town swapping incident I am talking about is Raistlin swapping a whole bunch of 90K cities from his kingdomates in Dark Blood in order to grab the Grumpyoldbastard win :) Anyone who looks at the past threads can see the entire fiasco in black and white. Your attempt to smokescreen this incident was abit too feeble :P

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21:18:28 Oct 7th 09

This game should be called hypocritical utopia if we're going to rename it.  People who would rather flame people and kingdoms for something they themselves do in the game constantly -- you both are pros at that but then we all need some accomplishment in life dont we ....


I thought you started the entire trend babe :) I mean, whenever I ask for an example of hypocrites in the game, most people I talk to always give the name Quietone immediately as the perfect classic example ^_^


20:48:49 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. Leavemebeimfarming:

I quite like the game as it is. keeps you on your toes. I didn't play in the 'good ole days' but I am sure players were dishonourable back then as they are now, this is online gaming afterall. It is boring listening to the same old grandad line of 'oh back in my day...', it is a blinkered view and utter nonsense

learn to deal with it or play something else

 


21:51:43 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. Yellow Bean:

Best kd ever ???

legacy



21:57:11 Oct 7th 09 - Duke Nukem:

lol TBL


22:00:06 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. Augh:

I wouldn't say so. Though it depends on what criteria you have. If its just pure ownage that counts the smiths takes it home, but if you count cheating/abusing as being "not good" they are out of the question, but then we get to a point where we have to weigh it, Rambo etc. In the end I don't think its doable to point at one kd as being the best. LGC ran for a long while wich def gives them the award for longest running superkd. But with all the variable's who's to say Serenity, Abydos, V or any of the earlier incarnations of LGC wasnt better at peak level?


22:18:17 Oct 7th 09 - Mr. Finwe:


22:48:20 Oct 7th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:

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21:11:45 Oct 7th 09
TBL stop talking about the failed DB experiment (and its second incarnation Juicy).

Didnt DB pwn you along with Fant for a few eras?? :P
But let me guess you were inactive and couldnt play and your full :P

and they pwned you in the way ;)
oh and we dont count the accident when you got in DB for a month...


23:48:31 Oct 8th 09 - Lady Quietone:

TBL whoever fed you the information on Raistlin is appearantly wanting you to look more stupid than you do on your own.  Raistlin never "townswapped a bunch of 90k cities" from anyone in DB-facts again wrong as per your usual rants twisted truths-  The big flame fest against DB was because we  kicked inactives and took the cities for our own- which is the norm in any kingdom and Raistlin was not the only person in the kingdom who acquired said towns.  Raistlin has never needed to be "fed" to win an era ever.

You seem to bring up Prosapia alot and tie it to Dark Blood and it was a completely seperate kingdom- i'm sorry if Prosapia stomped you but talking badly about DB because you got beat by Prosapia is just silly- as is talking about Raistlin when you have no concept of what went on.

Anyway- thanks for missing me and Dark Blood so much means alot to all of us that you just cant move on with your lives and must keep us in the topic of conversation, it's obvious how boring the game has become without a REAL kingdom to stand up against the loser patrol. 


02:38:40 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Ezatious:

just cant move on with your life and actually leave vu forum ;)


03:34:14 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Ezatious:

Raist was fed, ford was in your kd at the time and confirmed this for us. thankyou. goodbye


15:09:09 Oct 9th 09 - Lady Quietone:

Ford lol that's who you are relying on for your information? lol well that says it all haha! Ford is probably one of the biggest BS'ers in this game... besides the fact that it's a complete fabrication have you even bothered to check the scores?  How much really are a few small towns from one or two inactive players really worth?  You have any concept on how many towns that Raistlin would have had taken over for you to be correct ? Come on stop pushing lies around you just looking pathetic. 


15:25:31 Oct 9th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:

Interesting post Ryan. Iwe been doing abit of diplomacy this era. Im still a VU nooblet but learning as i go.

I think one of the main reasons that things are as they are is that everyone and their mother are busy keeping their relations top secret. One of the first things i did after being promoted to Vice was to contact one of the Fate Vices, to see if i could get an overview of what was going on. The response i got was of such character that i probably never is going to be interested in having any relations with Fate whatsoever. The locked door mentality is simply to much, remember i wasnt even trying to get us a nap or anything, was just asking super simple basic standard questions.

As for ourself i can tell you that we hit the breaks big time when comes to napping. We currently have 3 functional naps and i strongly doubt that we are going to need more. It was very hard to convince the local VU players that we actually didnt need the naps, but that the game is playable without them. Another thing to mention here is that the naps that we actually wanted we had to work realy hard to get. It took over a week of diplomacy to get 1 of them signed. So i dont think you are correct to make a statement that eveyrone is overnapping at all.

Anyways. What would be interesting would be to open up on relations and go public with what maps everyone have. I got some vague ideas on who is napped to who. But of course cant be sure. I strongly doubt you have a better overview than i do. But it sound slike you think you do.

As for your own kingdom. You fill in the role of a joker this era. You are a big kd that lands in a lesser world. That means that you can run it more or less completely without naps and move in wherever you want to at this point. I wouldnt be surpriced to see Crazy armys at our borders soon. I do think that would be a waste considering the size you gained from landing where you landed. 


15:33:17 Oct 9th 09 - Endless Death:

Sort of uncalled for don't you think Deno? You were fishing for information about other KDs from a friend (and not general info but very specific info) and not seeking relations with Fate - so why would I tell you anything?  :p

Why confuse the two... had you asked for a general feel of VU you would have gotten my perspective (for whatever that was worth and probably not a lot).


15:47:53 Oct 9th 09 - Grumpy old Bastard:

Ez:

Jet:

 



15:49:45 Oct 9th 09 - Grumpy old Bastard:

Puppy (you know who you are):
Sit! Rollover! Play dead! Bark! Good boy... :->


16:24:14 Oct 9th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:

The thing you completely misunderstood about my approach Julie was that i wasnt fishing at all for any information about your relations. I allready knew all i wanted to know. I was curious about how you handled your diplomacy and i got all the information i wanted :-)


16:25:44 Oct 9th 09 - Prince Whiskers The Feline God:

Not many KDs would openly talk about their relations and diplomacy with others KDs tbh...unless they were like...MAPed in my opinion.....Typically people don't publicize who their allies are...the enemies are known ofc. :-|


16:31:02 Oct 9th 09 - Chancellor Scrooge Mcduck:

Especially after last era, we felt that it was no one's business who we did, or did not, have relations with.


16:35:08 Oct 9th 09 - Endless Death:

Well Deno, you didn't actually - you had a friend to friend conversation. Had you initiated a relations conversation then you would have gotten diplomacy.  Perhaps in future you can begin the conversation making it clear which hat you're wearing I tend to keep mine separate.


16:36:31 Oct 9th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:

I dont realy see why not tbh, unless you actually got something to be ashamed out. Wich i honestly doubt you do from looking at the maps. All it accomplish with the closed door mentality is that Someone like Ryan is going to Make posts like the one he have made here.


16:37:04 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Ezatous:

So let's get this straight. You're saying those players that were kicked from DB were inactive, DESPITE us having screenshots at the time that witnessed these "inactives" moving their troops out of these cities, and into the open, cynically ticks before Raist took them over?

Damnit, why didn't anybody tell me that it was possible to not log into the game, and yet at the same time control all your armies. Takes "inactive" to a whole new level.



Oh. Hi btw Raist.



16:40:33 Oct 9th 09 - Endless Death:

Deno, the game is played this way. It's not a closed door mentality, it's an invitation only door mentality or something ;) either way I applaud your efforts to change it and c'mon whats wrong with this thread? kinda low on flames but still fun I thought ^_^


16:56:21 Oct 9th 09 - Prince Whiskers The Feline God:

Intelligent and mature discussion is the way to go. 


17:32:45 Oct 9th 09 - Lady Quietone:

like i said swifty- look at the scores and explain how a few towns from inactives gave Raistlin the win there's no possible way -- regardless.. if the player was going inactive knowing we'd kick them they would move their troops out or we'd ask them to so that isnt that juicy of a story it still wouldnt have given Raistlin the win regardless. 

But- lets talk about what else happened that era shall we? Lets talk about how Legacy/Revelation pursuaded Raistlin to help them townswap one of their blockers from one kingdom member to another so that they had higher magic protection and couldnt be CW'd by Osi's kingdom-- lets talk about that shall we? I mean if we're judging kingdoms for what they do explain that one away...i'm sure everyone would like to hear how the kingdom that is oh so judgemental on inactive towns explains townswapping of active players?

Because I'd really like to know if you would be hanging your head in shame if you managed to pull out the win that era knowing your kingdom townswapped to protect it's core- and not only that but flaming the same kingdom you asked to help you do it now... like i said....you're all a bunch of hypocrites lol


18:01:13 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Augh:

Deno, don't bother. Personally I've always been open with the relations of kds I've been in the leadership for. They are going to know our relations anyway so I might just save us all some time.


18:51:16 Oct 9th 09 - Sir Guybrush Threepwood:

No worries Augh. I am actually amusing myself here. I find it rather funny that Julie is trying to teach me how to do my diplomacy :-P


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