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Fantasia 104
16:43:33 Apr 9th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

Error goes down to MAD

Imladris and Black Chain warring

SDS and Rohan vs Ducky

Fire is.. somewhere.. doing something

Exciting era so far. What will happen next?

Find out next week on Dragon Ball Z


16:51:48 Apr 9th 25 - Prophet Hanky Panky:

Find out next week on Dragon Ball Z




16:52:15 Apr 9th 25 - Prophet Hanky Panky:

😂😂


17:26:10 Apr 9th 25 - Matthew (Mr. Barney):

Rohan and SDS do not have any relations, and I have just reiterated this and made it explicitly clear to everyone in both KDs that this is the case just as a matter of fair warning/good faith.

I personally orc dropped on Ducky because I saw that Ducky was orc dropping SDS while also being orc dropped by 2 other orcs- this created the best opportunity possible to potentially damage the strongest KD on the map.

The map is as follows:

Imaldris vs Black Chain
SDS vs Ducky vs Rohan
MAD vs Error (Error dead- Fire probably dead next)


17:30:27 Apr 9th 25 - Prophet Hanky Panky:

Say, anyway


I rolled up at heavens gates and got to go to hell


17:37:13 Apr 9th 25 - Matthew (Mr. Barney):

Here is what the map looks like- location of 'Rohan' redacted but you can probably infer our location based on the location of the other kingdoms:


18:25:40 Apr 9th 25 - Professor Eric Cartmen:

The way this is cut up reminds me of the map of all the warlords that battled each other during Dynasty Warriors. 


19:00:47 Apr 9th 25 - Konspyre (Captain Ducton Junior):

uhu yes all very believable, yup


03:05:13 Apr 10th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

Redacting yourselves... You have blockers with closed gates. Everyone knows you're in the bottom left, honey.  

Yes it's probably not technically SDS and Rohan versus Ducky as in you have an official alliance, but have you/are you fighting each other or are you waiting until after Ducky is defeated (if defeated). I only said that cause I had not seen an altercation between the two of you occur. I could be wrong. 

BC is also at war with MAD.

Anyone from Error here? What happened, how did you die to what looked like a single 2x army from Aloy?


06:51:51 Apr 10th 25 - Prince Mirelurker:

Talk to Binh. He knows we don’t do oop.


11:43:33 Apr 10th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Uldec):

So if anyone spawns near you you just build a 40k for them to take?


12:01:15 Apr 10th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

I'm really not saying this to be rude, there are ways to fight oop as less active players

I would really like talk strategies with you guys so we could make sure Fantasia continues to grow as a world. 


07:08:33 Apr 11th 25 - Prince Mirelurker:

Its about teaching the rest of the players what to do around you. Over the time I will teach everyone to leave me alone at oop. And then once nobody is looking I come with 20k Ponies day 15 of the era and nobody can stop me.


11:53:32 Apr 11th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Uldec):

I don't think giving people free 40ks is going to teach them to leave you alone at OOP lol


12:40:00 Apr 11th 25 - Professor Eric Cartmen:

Oh dang, that’s a rough burn.


12:59:13 Apr 11th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

I'm not trying to burn anyone. I was merely excited for an era with 7 decent sized Kingdoms. But that's not what we got because it feels like Error spawned in, and built nothing but econ, or at least very few GTs or Troops. It looked like Aloy took their whole core with a 2x army. 

You guys always talk about how inactive you are but like... just build 2-3 GTs in your cities. Do a low count starter. You can start with one city and be pretty safe oop. 


13:24:09 Apr 11th 25 - Percy (Sir Friend of Ducks):

Imperium’s old “if you know you’ll be less active/inactive” guide is essentially what Sable is suggesting here: build a single 90k that gives access to all resources, and turtle until the OOP/early threats are past. Makes it easier for allies to defend a single city, can just stack in more GTs if needed, and generally just denies enemies distributed eco, they have to go all-in on fortresses.


Doing that allows a couple active defenders to assist many lower activity people who still provide some defenses themselves. 

Yes, doing this will sacrifice several early era econ boosts from distributed cities and keeping prod/PG high in all cities… but if you’re not going to be active enough to defend effectively (or playing a race that can’t defend early era), that’s the only way to survive long enough to be useful anyways. Anything less just gives the enemy more power against you.


14:16:08 Apr 11th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

That's exactly what I'm talking about Percy.


Why One City Start?
OOP time is very harsh and difficult to deal with when you are playing a non-OOP race or you are less active. This is why we will be doing a One City Start for the vast majority of our non-OOP'rs.

How do I do the One City Start for Orc, Troll, or Halfling?
You first city should be a 90k.
Build up to 2200 Homes, 500 Farms, 750 Mills, 1 GT, and 2,948 Mines. This adds up exactly to 6399.
3a. Once all of your buildings are built up to 6399, drop whenever you reach that point immediately for a "mini-drop".
3b. If you are close to going to bed or away from VU for a long time, wait to drop your city after you get back.
Target 10k Homes, 2k Farms, 7k Mills, 11k Mines, and 3k GTs (if core dropped).
NOTE: Get the 3k GTs up in your city before OOP if there is going to be an OOP conflict.
Wait until you have enough Gold, Tree, and Stone to build all of the remaining buildings at once. Build all of them at once.

This should ensure a safer OOP experience and the ability to drop a full 90k in approximately 7-10d if you land drop as described above.

Human Specific
You first city should be a 200k near to mountain, forest, and water.
Build at a 1 Home: 0.33 Farm: 1.5 Mill: 1.5 Mine Ratio until you reach 25k Homes, 16k Mines, 17k Mills, 4k Farms, and 3k GTs at which point you will have 66k buildings.
Note: Do not do any drops, just build straight through to 66k
At 66k buildings, stop and wait until you can drop the remaining 134k buildings at once.
You're finished.

Sci Path For Human One City Start: Lvl 4 mining > Lvl 4 Med > specific build


14:49:30 Apr 11th 25 - Bran (Mr. Cirkel):

why do so many within this game nowadays (it wasnt this way before i quit 5 yrs ago), think its their business to tell other players who arent in their kd how to play the game?

correct me if im wrong, but noone in Error asked anyone for advice on how to play


14:57:51 Apr 11th 25 - Prince Mirelurker:

Was about to write more silly stuff, maybe start a fight, but was told people do not get the trolls, people think I was being serious. It was a jest cause Binh wrote we don’t play oop. Obviously a little bit activity is required to oop, we were 3 people cause 1 did not spawn. 


We were located in between two kingdoms and third kingdom also dropped a city. Unlike some, I actually have a life, and often I am limited to coning online 2 times per day. Oop will always struggle if you spend 10 minutes online in first 24 hours of the era. 

If you are able to survive oop, and build some income and blocker + army, week later you can play the game by being 2 times online (sometimes I am here 15 times per day too). Solution could be to simply not play if I can only be on 2 times per day, but how is that good for the game? I try oop cause I know if I survive it might be fun later on. I do not hate oop time, I just can’t be online 48 hours when needed. 


15:48:46 Apr 11th 25 - Konspyre (Captain Ducton Junior):

You're all noobs.
Idiots.
You know nothing about any of this.
One city for OOP? Please, you'll be the BIGGEST target of them all!

There is only one genuinely safe approach to OOP: Build as many towns as you can. Keep them small. An orc will see a 20k city and think "MMM JUICY MAMA LOOK AT THAT", but what do you think will happen if an orc sees a 2k city? "sigh not worth the effort to drop, waste of gaia/time".
So make a lot of them.
You'll have 10 cities with 2k buildings each, and the orc will skip them because they aren't worth the effort.
And whoever built that 20k city can go deal with the issue.
Not your problem.

Thank me later.

Peace.


16:23:39 Apr 11th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Uldec):

I was just offering some advice, albeit unsolicited. Not telling anyone how to play but if someone says "It's not possible for me to play OOP" and I know that it is, I don't feel like it's overly rude to share. Logging on two times a day but you built 40k buildings, you easily could have just made 3k Guardtowers and not died to 15k Gaia or whatever. 

By all means they can play the game however they want but if they want to survive to play the late game and have fun then I was merely offering some advice on how they could do that even while inactive. 

Bran, when you quit 5 years ago no one wanted to share their secrets because they wanted to be better than everybody else.

God forbid they shared the halfling science hack earlier. Lots of people got to enjoy that secret for a long time. Lol

If it's fun for error to touch down and die with little resistance then far be it for me to stop them, just thought some easy and slight changes to their strategy could lead them to getting to play more, which I (maybe falsely) assume they want to do. 


17:08:59 Apr 11th 25 - Dark Spawn (Sir Dominion):

I have not played Fant last era, and did not play this one either, but you sure trash Error. Were they punching bags last era too? Who was the winner last era, did they kill Error last era too?


17:39:43 Apr 11th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

It's not my intent to trash anyone. I'm merely observing that Error spawned next to MAD and died to a 2x Orc army.


If you think that means they're trash then that's on you. I just noted they might want to rethink their oop strategies. 


18:05:18 Apr 11th 25 - Bran (Mr. Fredegar Bolger):

my impression was you were trashing them thats my reason for commenting , perhaps that wasnt your intention


18:09:35 Apr 11th 25 - The Sprout:

Cant blame him for calling it like it is :P



20:48:02 Apr 11th 25 - Lady Jasmine:

My city had at least 30k Gaia, and I believe I had around 15k Guard Towers among my two cities. Curious how did Aloy kill all these using 10k army, could you explain please Sable? 


Woody had a 50k army attacking Aloy, but Aloy used BTs and took over Woodys city instantly, that was quite a shame, that did hurt us a lot, no luck there. 

But please do explain how did Aloy kill 50k troops using 10k army? 

  1. Mr. Aloysius Mad has won 4 battles, captured 14 cities and killed a total of 53089 men and women.

Sable you think he was using Naz at oop? Could you give your expert opinion? 

Last era Error won, and we had Bran, same team. So we're one player short of being the best on the map, and now we're the worst. Cool. 


21:02:50 Apr 11th 25 - Konspyre (Captain Ducton Junior):

what he said must be an Error


21:03:02 Apr 11th 25 - Venomz (High Warlord Duc Tariffs):

Mr. Aloysius Mad has won 0 battles, captured 6 cities and killed a total of 1753 men and women.


Can't blame people for thinking u didn't have any defence.


21:32:56 Apr 11th 25 - Lady Jasmine:

I sure did. Can't say Error as a kingdom fell against 10k army. If you want to say Mirelurker fell to 10k army, sure. Mire was online once in 24 hours, therefore cities fell. The rest of the kingdom did not fall to a 10k army. 


23:00:52 Apr 11th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

That's fair. Aloy has recently killed a lot of my troops with his 4x. So your numbers are a little skewed. We'd have to have the numbers from when you guys actually fell. I don't pretend to have all the information. I just know specifically that Mirelurker's 40k went down to a 2x, which of course is a snowball effect that allows Aloy to train much more than he normally would be able to. 

Again, I didn't make any of those posts specifically to trash on anyone or be rude. Just getting some action in the forums and trying to continue to get the lay of the land and offer some advice where I can. 


23:03:02 Apr 11th 25 - Sable (Arkanist Kaelzug Veinripper):

But yeah I mean. Winning 5 battles and capturing 14 cities. I think that speaks for itself. Especially when, like I said, one of those battles was him bouncing my 3x army with his 4x army. So he's captured at least 10 defenseless cities. 

Don't know if they were all Errors, don't care. 



11:24:37 Apr 12th 25 - Matthew (Mr. Barney):

Does VU have an ignore function to stop morons from sending you whiney messages?


12:30:21 Apr 12th 25 - Phat (Grand Moff Anarchist):

Could leave em on read? Hope they have a paid account and can see you’ve read it and just don’t give a shit to respond. Lol


13:07:13 Apr 12th 25 - Lady Jasmine:

Going to Discord and arguing with people you want to ignore is really not the way to go :D


14:13:50 Apr 12th 25 - Matthew (Mr. Barney):

Well Jasmina it helps when they dont ping you fist!


That said I respect the ambitious warfare strategy of bringing the fight right to my in-game inbox.


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