You (5/10/2007 12:35:08 PM)
Greeting We are Lietuvos Didzioji Kunigaikstyste , we are honest and good players. We aren't offering peace for every kingdom, we have already peace treaties with some KDs and we would like to sign with you and other KD more , we are peacefull but we like to go into war too, some of our players are here from 3rd era, they know that you have very good players too, and ofcourse your KD is very strong too, so we want to make a peace agreement. We know that with new players almost no one wants to make peace in Fantasia, but we aren't new players except that the KD is 2 eras old. Please make your answer. Kind regards LDK Viceroy Honor
Duke Drakos [BoW] (5/12/2007 6:38:34 AM)
BoW would be interested in an alliance. A NAP is what your looking for? -Drakos
You (5/12/2007 1:31:21 PM)
We looking NAP for same enemies , and some in your kingdom my old friends. with kind regard Viceroy Honor
You (5/22/2007 8:10:56 PM)
so you not accept NAP ?

Mr. Honor copy to me them messages.

Can we wait for an answer more then 10 days? Maybe he will not answer for a longer time. He should inform one of his Vice that the negotiations would be in someones hands. So who are responsible for diplomacy we cant know. We wanted only NAP not an alliance. So as you call as unhonorable, can I ask why we have to wait for an answer that long and didnt receive any?

Mr. Architect, can you please shut the *beep* up and read the posts first instead of trying to get post count? You realize this isn't like most forums and the more posts you get the cooler you are, right? That's not how it is here.

Duke Drakos [BoW] (5/23/2007 4:33:11 PM)
Bull*beep*. They never wrote me again...they are being stupid/lying. I said we would be interested to there origional message, and they NEVER wrote back. *beep*s.

Duke Drakos [BoW] (5/23/2007 4:35:52 PM)
If they want an NAP they need to write me back, they are the ones who dropped the ball and caused the misinformation.

Are you joking man??? So you want to say we should wait for a week? And never answered so you dont read anything...

Duke Drakos [BoW] (5/12/2007 6:38:34 AM)
BoW would be interested in an alliance. A NAP is what your looking for? -Drakos
You (5/12/2007 1:31:21 PM)
We looking NAP for same enemies , and some in your kingdom my old friends. with kind regard Viceroy Honor
You (5/22/2007 8:10:56 PM)
so you not accept NAP ?   Differnce is 10 days man, where is your diplomancy, you can complain for ages but thats not fair from your side not ours...

Verry unhonorable players LDK! They attacked my blocker without even replying to my verry pleasant greeting. :P

I don`t get message from you, and i don`t know where your kingdom location, maybe Dovydas get message?

Of course you did not. your not the one that had went and captured my blocker. It was your member Honor.

Naah... :P lay waste upon his kingdom by all means. Peace : )

If LDK offered BoW a NaP (as it seems to me it happened) then BoW says yes or no until then you dont attack LDK

if BoW offered LDK NaP then LDK can say no and the nattack. But LDK did not say no they jsut attacked no matter what LDK has been unhonorable

I'm not seeing the problem here. There wasn't actually a NAP right....? So LDK are dishonorable because they....attacked BoW? the NAP talks didn't seem to be going anywhere (sure Drakos was away, but they obviously didn't know that), and they were hardly going to just sit back and do nothing now were they?

If BoW doesn't have the courtesy, or even the decency to respond to a NAP offer, and LDK attack them 10 days later after no response has been given, then no it doesn't make LDK unhonourable. By all means, offering a NAP and attacking in the immediate future is unhonourable. But 10 days is more than enough time. LDK could of been waiting for ever, without attacking with BoWs negligence.

But BoW neglecting their messages doesn't surprise me, I had the same problem several eras back with Dracos and Karac. I had found a good number of multies in their kingdom after they had mass-recruited, I informed them, they replied initially and when I asked if they were going to inform ZeTa, they stopped replying to all messages. Needless to say, the multies were eventually deleted much later, but nobody in the BoW leadership seemed to have cared at the time, and were obviously aware.

Ok dave, lets just say I dont know you. Only people who have things to  hide change their name. As for the multies, we had 3 during that era, a lot less than most of the other kingdoms.

Now as for this, I will not say it is unhonorable play. They have every right to attack after 10 days. BUT do not start attacking BoW players, or authority for being inactive, I have just returned from having a child and have not known anything of what has been going on with politics. As for Drakos, he had been away on family business. Most people will say that family is more important than this game, you might not. Thats your right, and your stupidity if that is the case.

Bury our head in the sand? Alright, highly doubtful seeing as drakos, myself, and cave have been voted for as the best diplomats for many eras in a row, but hey, keep to your story.

As for the multies, every kingdom has them, just because one person says that they are multis we are to kick them? Ok, well, dear god, I hope no one ever claims that I am a multi, cause god knows, we will be required to kick them for one persons suspicion, or vindictiveness. As far for how we dealed with them, we decided to wait it out and see, rumor was zeta was going to do a sweep, let him decide, not us. Not our game.

And for another thing, whos kingdom is it? Oh yeah, Drakos' kingdom.... forgot, you know, with everyone telling him how to run it, asking about our internal affairs, and trying to push us around, oh yeah, i could see how i might forget that it is in fact his kingdom to run and do with as he will.

So please, if you have any suggestions, grab one of the cards off of the table, fill it out, and drop it in the box on the way out, and please do let the door hit ya on the way. Oh, and if you fill out the birthday club card as well, we will send you a coupon for a free pizza when your birthday comes around. Thanks.

Male, but nice attampt =P

Allow me to rephrase, my wife just had a baby, i was just there to support, and get screamed at ;) Then i took some time off to spend some time with my newborn son.

check out stiltskin blocker :P  CTRL F then type Erica :P

congrats on your baby.  its worst having to take care of a newborn child.  you have to wake up every 2 hours. lol.  but, the good thing is, you can always get online while feeding your son.  omg. a super active karac!

leave him alone JingleBells Dave.  Congrats again karac

you can get a breast pump.  you can pump the milk out of the breast and put them into bottles.  so your wife can get a rest.

WARNING:  Stored Breast Milk can only last for 24 hours.  throw them away after that.

Bah! you should help her! she just gave birth!  was it CS or normal delivery?

It was natural. April 15th. Took me out of the last two ages. It was beautiful, the lady actually let me do the delivery because i work at the hospital. I almost cried, was the only one in the room who didnt, but almost did.

Damn, that rocks Karac... I think being married is great if you didn't get bored with your wife already that is..

Congrats...

And about LDK, the thing is that their English sucks and it's better not to discuss Diplomacy with them as you cannot reach an agreement and be sure that they haven't understood the exact opposite from yourself :)

EDIT : That's touching Karac, spread your happiness :P

I wish I had a baby and stopped playing VU, it's killing me :((

Honor speaks decent english.

Mr. Legionas [LDK] (5/21/2007 11:55:14 AM)
We not send us scoout in your core,and when you send your scout i thing you spy us so i destroy him

Need I say more?

hey Mr Haywood, English is not our mother-tongue. If u think that everyone in the world should speak and write corectly in this language, u r wrong :)

ok, Mr Legionas wrote a message, but I think u understood it. Dont u? :)

i did not react rough!  patas did.  please read the entire conversation.

in RL but in VU if you are talking about NaP and no one disagrees then there is an unofficial NaP until the terms are worked out