hello nirvana it has been a while. let the fun begin?

haha love how it doesnt seem to start at the tick change..

*almost* everyone in my kingdom seems to be sitting on their hands while this fukkin orc speads like a disease in our core... such a waste of friggen time... i *almost* wish i solo'd

Kingdoms in Nirvana
	Vie Zenith	9	General of Beautiful Women	239
	Valar	10	Lady Charlize Theron	194
	Juggernaut	3	Mr. Salazar	129
	Candlewax	10	Prince Dakarta	100
	Gorillaz	2	Mr. Kype	62
	The Fellowship of the Thing	2	Mr. Aragorn	62
	Bomber Brothers	3	Mr. Wolf Slayer	52
	Olympus	3	Mr. Apollo II	31
	Sleepless	4	Mr. Roq	14
	Laughs	2	Mr. Hello Than	8

Kingdoms in Nirvana
	Vie Zenith	9	General of Beautiful Women	175
	Valar	10	Lady Charlize Theron	137
	Juggernaut	3	Mr. Salazar	100
	Candlewax	9	Prince Dakarta	62
	The Fellowship of the Thing	2	Mr. Aragorn	44
	Gorillaz	2	Mr. Kype	43
	Bomber Brothers	3	Mr. Wolf Slayer	37
	Olympus	3	Mr. Apollo II	24
	Sleepless	4	Mr. Roq	11

Only 2 kds with name starting with a V.

So far... my kd has no relations...

We're already fighting 3.... so... technically we have relations lol...

Please remember that only Binh can have my cities.

Let's see... 

Post how many cities he has captured 

I'm just a solo lil' hobbit,

Congratulations to Valar, Zie Venith, and Bomber brothers on their group efforts of repelling Juggernaut from Valar's core.  

Zondervan is a pussy.

While I may not particularly enjoy the methods employed in this era, I nevertheless recognize the prerogative and permissibility of these KDs to band together in a united front, on a lower world, against two players. 

He is a single player against a ten man KD. I would suggest you disband the KD or restart somewhere on the map, preferably within the safety of someone elses core.

lol ... come on Zenith and BB i'm sure Valar don't need your help against a solo ? 

:-) my mistake i only factored in the Valar and BB empire i didn't know i had to worry about a third ...sister  

water is stronger :p

Stormy, 

Zondy is a cat.

at least we all agree on what i eat :D

09:47:28 Feb 23rd 13 - Zond (General of Beautiful Women):

Hmmm its a toss up there mate ..

OK, a semi serious post here.

- COMMENCE TOO LONG DO NOT READ PLEASE IGNORE AND AVOID POST -

Salazar, Zondy tells me that you are a high-potential player that Binh is currently training. From my observations, you are also very active and reactive (in a good way), and you seem to have learned (or are learning) well from one of VU's best-ever players. The fact that in Fantasia, you play with Legacy, also exposes you to the playing style, strategies and thoughts of many good and experienced veterans.

You are off to a very good start, and are getting opportunities that very few players would ever get.

Do just note a couple of surrounding factors here (OK, lecture begins, but please don't think I am being patronising or condescending here :P).

The first is that the players in Valar do not really take this map seriously (no offense meant to anyone at all here guys :P :P).

If you know the history of the Valar players, you will find that many of them have been kingdomates and close friends for many many eras. Stormy and Dalak have been kingdomates ever since the year 2006 or 2007 (could be even earlier). I have been kingdomates with several of my Valar mates since the era of Agent Smith. I knew Kobuskan even earlier before that.

Pretty much 8 / 9 out of 10 Valar players are very close friends with one another.

Many of us used to be serious Fantasia gamers. For many eras, we would be competing with the best kingdoms on Fantasia for the crown. We've all worked together or fought against each other many many times in the past. Heck, 7 out of 10 players in Valar used to be in Carnage / Foundation / Fate, a key Fantasian mainstay of the past.

We have all gone through the entire gamut of competitive VU gameplay - the stress, the agony, the pressure to succeed, the highs and lows, etc. We've been thrown through the proverbial "meat grinder" so to speak.

However, after many eras of playing on Fantasia, one does get tired and jaded after awhile. I am sure from your recent Fantasia experience with Legacy that you know how it is like to play in a very competitive kingdom - VU is a precision and coordination game, where you have to be online at the right time in order to coordinate moves. It is also a reaction game - you have to be able to react to your opponent's various moves and changes - thus it requires high amounts of activity at the highest competitive levels. It means one may have to be on for hours at an end, in order to be able to stop a powerful enemy, or to push an attacking momentum decisively.

It also means that players tend to burn out. And many players take breaks from this game, some for several eras, some for several years, others permanently.

And seriously, do we really have time to be playing a game seriously if we have a family or a job to maintain?

However, it is also the nature of VU such that, in going through such highs and lows with ones comrades, special bonds and relationships are formed. Friendships are forged when you go through tough times and victorious times together.

Valar is made up of that. A bunch of old friends. Legacy has many "old friends" too - players who have played together for many years now. Some way back to the betas (proverbial dinosaurs... like Roxbury).

As with friendships forged over the internet, it is hard to maintain such friendships since there are geographic and personal obstacles to them. For example, its going to be very hard for me to visit Stormy or Julie, who are flippin 10,000 miles away, or Dalak, who is 4,000 miles away. Not to mention the timezones are totally incompatible. And some folks are married and have families, and the spouses and kids wouldn't really be happy to find strange men (and one woman) suddenly waltzing in and occupying their husbands' / wife's / fathers' time.

Thus, this was the reason Valar was created on Nirvana (several eras ago). It was a hang-around joint for a couple of old friends to play the game casually, log in every now and then, have some "shit and giggles".... but most importantly, maintain that bond of friendship.

You will find that we do not play at "Fantasian" level intensity here in this map. Unless we are forced to, which is very rare :P Actually, even if we are facing Fantasian type opponents, we will probably still take it quite easy. VU is a never-ending game, so how often can we put up that kind of game face :P

Basically, what I am trying to say... is that having Binh and you (and Erynthul) drop next to us, and looking at us as a "practice round" before the next era of Fantasia..... we're probably not gonna make the best of practice opponents to be honest :P Some of us actually went "meh, whatever" in our internal forums when we realize Binh was core-sharing with us and were quite fine if he (and you) were to give our asses a drubbing (well, I was one of them :P).

We might also get a bit grumpy with being forced to up our activity and our intensity, so do forgive us for that :P

But nonetheless, even at 30% or so effort, we can put up something.... decent (I guess). And more importantly, as a quid pro quo, we did learn something from Binh and you too :P Knowing that orcs can pump out 30K to 40K gaia OOP with a one city drop has some interesting connotations for the next era of Fantasia :D

The second thing I want to tell you is that Binh, Kobu and Zondy are not the only monsters playing on this map. (yes I exclude myself, I have no idea where you got the notion that I was a talented player from... :P).

There are many other good players playing here as well (what the EFF are you all doing here? Please bugger off, this is Valar's exclusive resort map, thank you!!! :P). Some taking this map too seriously, unfortunately (guys, can't you see we are trying to RELAX on this map? Binh, you especially... why are you treating this place like a mini Fantasia run?)

Erynthul, the untagged who is next to you, is Toa from Immortals on Fantasia. As you can see.... he is a very good player, and a veteran.

Tyrgalon and Stewie in Zondy's kingdom are also strong, experienced players. They have been through a lot and achieved a lot, and would be a valuable team member to any Fantasian kingdom.

Bomber Brothers have the actual brothers, Wolf and Phoenix. The first is a previous era winner, and an elite attacker when active, the latter is a very reputable mage (watch out for Phoenix's ROFS, we like to say).

East of us, in the kingdom of Fellowship of the Thing, the leader is Karac, the last era winner before the multi character system, and former leader of a kingdom that fought many times on Fantasia. Elsin (whom you are acquainted with in Legacy) is there too, a multiple era winner.

Then south-east of us, is where a couple of Godzilla type monsters truly lie.

The kingdom of HO contains Jill (last era's Fantasia winner, and leader of Beothuk - aka leader of many capable and experienced players), Crissxcross (previous era winner, one of the game's premier players, and famously known as the player who forced Dark Blood to disband), Roxbury (whom you are acquainted with in Legacy, and is one of the dinosaurs I described above - played since the Betas), and finally, this dude called Path / Psychopath (you should ask Binh about him.... for me, he is, in my experience, one of the 6 best players to have ever played VU in my time :P [Binh is one of the other 6 :P]).

These guys all have some amazing history and accomplishments in VU.

In my kingdom, Stormy is a veteran since the days of Mirror, and one of the game's best OOPers, and the founder / leader of Carnage. Dreadlord (aka Bounce), whom you are already acquainted with through playing in Legacy, is another seriously good player. Chade is the leader of Immortals, and has been a solid comrade and opponent whenever we play together or against each other. Dan / Aussie / Learner won Fantasia about 6 eras ago, and was one of the key Beothuk OOP players together with Stormy this era. Knigh is another Fate / Foundation veteran who is a solid troll player. Julie is one of the game's best mages, and was a vital member of several strong Fantasian kingdoms in the past.

Then we have another Godzilla level player called Dalak, who always flies under the radar and always hides his capabilities, but is seriously one of the finest attacking players to have played this game. He has stomped over so many kingdoms and players in the past, it isn't even funny. (not to mention he is overlord of a giant harem, but that's another story :P)

(man, look at all the flattery I am dishing out here..... you guys need to treat me to tonnes of meals, booze and hooke.... I mean, escor.... nevermind... meals and booze will do).

Basically, in describing all the players to you, I am trying to say that this map is full of talented, experienced, and capable players. All of whom you can observe and learn from.

(and all of whom should not be here... you guys are turning this into some mini Fantasia shite, you know that?)

Now, to wrap things up, why did I go into such a long-winded, boring, semi-emotional post on the Nirvana forums to you?

Well, if anything, I was probably happy to see a new player that is taking an active interest in this game and is taking the trouble to learn it up. It reminded me of the past when Path and I first started this game, and were looking for mentors to guide us and examples to follow.

I am also reminded of VU's better days in the past when the game had a following several times bigger then its current situation, and Fantasia had the player-base to fill several competitive kingdoms every era. Those were some very tough, competitive and fiery eras that yours truly enjoyed participating in :P

And finally, it is kinda with the realization that, since I probably will not be staying for long anymore in VU (well, at least not in Fantasia anyway), if there is any little nugget of wisdom that I can leave for an upcoming player, a little bit of legacy that I can share for prosperity (see what I did there, baby blue banner boys? :P), this is one of the opportunities to do it :)

Salazar, it is truly a shame that this game is no longer what it used to be in the past. You could have witnessed what was a really really good game. On the other hand, hopefully, you are the first of many new additions to the game, which would lead to its revival and bring it forward to more glorious days.


- OK, END SUPER LONG RAMBLING RANTING BULLSHIT POST - PLEASE FORGET IT AND GET BACK TO GAMING AND FLAMING ONE ANOTHER, TYVM!!!! -

well then if thats the case i'll put you as Dumb and them as Dumber .. :-) but i guess napping nearly entire map gives you the time to do what you do best .. cast those annoying spells that you seem to like casting .. dragons , plaque even if there cast inside allies cores :-)