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30 minutes ago DB broke our blocker. This means our defences have been breached from all directions. Game over.

We learned several things this era though and we appriciate the attention given to us. Here are the 3 main reasons why Zeon lost this battle:

• We had inferior magic. This is something we need to work with.

• Although our strategies where correct, sometimes our tactics lacked. For example, both DB and Carnage riverjumped us.
  

• The odds. Well, this factor was nothing we could do anything about. Zeon+Music was fighting Carnage+Dark Blood+Mirror.

Isn't walking other the rivers unhonorable bug?

Its not a bug it just sucks(if it makes you loose a war, if you win bcoz of it it rulez).

River jumping is abuse (zeta stated this) but there is no consequences for it, so its up to the players not to do it. Lets say its a measurement of how the kingdoms look upon them self. End of discussion.

Riverjumping is ALLOWED

its even listed in the FAQ!

Go read and not complain!

-Rob

Crap I shouldnt press the reply button that often!

Fearn, it was a nice fight ;p kudo's for you!

-Rob

We didnt just hop across using a scout if that is what you mean. We took a town that they build across the river and simply attacked that town.

The one where you hop across using a scout, well thats 'illegal' but we didnt do that. They just shouldnt have build a city next to a river :P

-Rob

It's a shame that we see our ally is lost. I hope we can hold out long enough to buy enough time for the rest of Fantasia to face that they'll have the same future as us, if they don't act quick.
I must say I'm dissapointed though. We only lasted 15 real life days. I hoped for surviving longer together, ofcourse.

Well, I must thank you guys though, you were an honourable ally, and powerfull too this era. Thank you for this.

My walls got deleted, why don't their armies get deleted?


Btw- Don't take this serious ;)

Why my trolls can't swim while carnage can? The god is so cruel for me 'haha'

This reminds me of a jack johnson song 'The HoriZEON has been defeated' ahaha i rock :)

congrats zeon, u guys did well. its tough against such powerful enemies. u have surely earned my respect!

Thanks Zeon, I had fun, hope you had the same.

yes maybe it says that taking cities from over a river is possible, but its a cheap way of getting into our core.

using scouts to riverjump into our core like carnage did is also cheap is my opnion

the result of this war proves nothing. you defeated us using cheap unhonourable tactics and in my opinion you deserve nothing.

sure you probably would have broken our blockers eventually and would have deserved the victory, but not now. not even in the slightest.

Dark Blood and Carnage are just really badass...

I call you cowards for following Messiah's lead and just torching whatever you have. The main cause of your defeat wasn't by some 'riverjump'. It's when the flood of armies breaks your blocker. Diversionary tactics are well and good and it's your own fault you couldn't keep them contained, or plan city placement with regards to whether it can be jumped or not.

Still, coming in here and trying to belittle us for a victory is absurd. You had little chance in terms of sheer size, your blockers were left wide-open in some area, costing you more troops that could've been used at your main blocker. Acknowledge your faults, adapt, and move on. However, while you're moving on, take your defeat with a little bit of good-sportsmanship.

And now they just started...

I for one still have respect for many in zeon. They held out remarkably well agianst both carnage and DB. You guys fought a hell of a fight and provided a good war:D (You had me nervous a coupe of times;)

Dont know why some are making a big deal about city jumping and river jumping. These are tactics I have used and seen used countless times by many kingdoms for many eras now. It was actually when our merge took that music blocker that opened up your southern flank to us, causing your troops to have to concentrate on several fronts.

@Hemmer: You'll always be badass in my book spoonie;) You guys did good too, maybe if you switched what kind of music you were playing? Maybe reggae or disco?

Elsin & Fizban. That is excactly what I have been saying, aint it?

If you were saying it, then other members of your kd wasn't and the post was for them.

I think  DB need some kind of anger management classes 'cause thet sure seem to have over active rape, burn and pillage glands :)
I wonder how long us *beep*s in SoS last ?

Simply put, we were outnumbered and outmaneuvered.  Our allies helped, but they were weak and recovering from other wars while we were fighting two kingdoms larger than ourselves in points and members.

I would have *hoped* that Carnage would play honorably.  Zeta clearly didn't INTENT for river-jumping via scouts.  That would mean it wasn't supposed to be any sort of strategy or tactic.

Now that it's over, though, I wonder who Carnage and DB will take on next.  My thoughts are probably not each other (though that would certainly be an interesting fight to watch.)

Well, NAPs are breakable after a designated cancellation notice... though I doubt either of you want a big chaotic practically "civil war" where your kingdoms are integrated.

Mr. Rooster Report 5/22/2007 5:54:44 PM

I think  DB need some kind of anger management classes 'cause thet sure seem to have over active rape, burn and pillage glands :) I wonder how long us *beep*s in SoS last ?

I don't know, though with Stij's army severely weakened, we can find out eh?

I believe you are taking this quite well Messiah, although i'd love to have some cities, i believe you are doing the right thing in your position if you believe defeat.  And it is good of you to understand that the river jumping is easily stopped by not allowing scouts in your land or building close to the river. I guess this makes halflings a bit deadly.
You others speak of honor? look to Messiah, he has done well at accepting this fate, my deepest regards at your lost. Instead of complaining about this or that, he formulates a plan of new attack for next time. To simply flame as a sort of retal is childish, i will not defend anyone on this as it seems all sides are guilty.