Forums / In game politics / Embassy of the RDR

Actually, the tag of REVOLUTION is KoW, for kingdom of war.  that make no sense becuse they can not be anarchys if they are kingdom....learn yur ideologys befor you make a kd.

Or it doesnt matter what their ideology is since this is just a game and they just wanted a decent name.

lmao, wait till next year :P

actually, we are fighting russians, russians had a revolt...those members of russians that revolted formed a kingdom together and are also fighting russians. that is just how it is.there are many kingdoms fighting russians.

i just see on my friends account in zeta, like all nations fight nation rdr...very cowardly, unless a jihad was called against them i do not no???

actually rdr attacked dr thinking dr was an easy target they found out we wernt

he didnt intervene...he just gave them some advice

tell me if I'm not in the KD then how can I intervene with their there policies? ...it seems to me all I can do is comment on them, which I did.

are you in RDR?

Then I can see why your so uptight, but seriously settle a little; its not that big of a deal.

If you were near the southern end of your Core then it was definitely me.

I would say I have victory....I don't know what you call victory, but here is a lesson for you people don't like being killed or forced into submittion. So one day if you become a leader or a vice do not do what the russians did and accept anyone in there KD.  With all those people theres bound to be trouble especially from Ex enemies. Just kill off your enemies it makes you stronger and them weaker.

And about being unhonorable. We did not attack RDRs core until way past the 24 tick mark we secured our core built up troops and then sent them, and you guys still were not prepared. Thats not our fault.

And this game is NOT real life.........when will people learn? True, betrayal may be successful, but breaking an NAP is not very honorable....and if you're in their core, even the 24 NAP cancellation period is not good enough. That is just cheap, dirty, underhanded playing. Ganging up on a kingdom is pretty low too.

Let me explain this to you Atreides. Revolution and RDR never had a NAP we revolted and decided that ,even though there is no rule for how long you can't attack after revolting, we would wait the standard 24 ticks to make sure that no one would label us unhonorable.

Tell me what else should we have done? Waited 48 ticks just for the heck of it or is that not enough maybe we just should have waited to the end of the era then attack them the next era. would that have been enough for you. Or would you have called us unhonorable either way because you honestly don't have any idea what is going on?

We did what we could to make it honorable, but like Rhiannia said all is fair in war. And by the way we weren't in there core which further proves you have no idea what you are talking about. It took us a good 20 plus ticks added to the 24 we waited before we could even begin attacking their core.

What was so dirty about that?

KoW warred RDR earlier in the era.  KoW had 'internal issues', RDR 'won' the war.  RDR recruited the willing members of KoW.  With several new sizable members, RDR sought a new target, voted on it, and for some odd reason decided to war DR and Godlike at the same time.  As this begins, the former-KoW members decided to revolt.  So troublesome!  Now granted, I don't know what a good bit of the kingdom was doing, but they left an entire flank completely undefended, and had a somewhat weak offensive movement.  I suppose people were just a tad too comfortable with the KoW members that joined the kingdom.  And so it goes...being so spread out, it's a terrible pain to offer reinforcements in a timely fashion; several battlefronts are easy pickings and a handful of people are stuck solo.  People begin feeling like the kingdom isn't worth their time since assistance is scarce, and leave.  And some...revolt!  (Non-KoW members this time.)  All this fun stuff goes on...and Consequence starts to move in from the north...oh noes.  :O  So, divided on...*counts on fingers...one...two...three...four...five* fronts, RDR is left hobbling along, trying to survive.

Anyone with an expansionist ideal takes the chance of biting off more fat than they can chew.  Annexing every possible person into the kingdom wasn't the brightest idea.  Granted it made for attractive numbers on the kingdom page, but that's it.  Too many people, too many opinions, too much area, too much to be coordinated.

Would I have taken KoW into RDR after the first 'war'?  No.  :P  But I'm not the leader.  Did I 'trust' the ones that joined?  No.  :P  Why would you trust someone you just warred?  Common sense if you ask me.  Would I join a kingdom with the intention of revolting later?  Nah, not my style, not something I consider honorable.  Does that mean it's plausible for others to do it?  Of course.  Would I have warred Godlike or DR for fun?  Probably not, but again, not my decision.

@ Brinsbane.  '...6 against 30...' is a foolish statement.  It shouldn't need explanation, but I shall offer some for the fun of it.  Half of RDR is inactive.  30 ACTIVE members wouldn't have been such a pushover, eh?  '6'?  Only...about the number of separate parties attacking RDR.  Parties, not individuals--that amount is significantly higher, as one could imagine.

I'm not claiming RDR is completely exempt from fault;t oo many inactives, too many farmers, too many...people not 100% sure what they're doing.  (This comes as a result of actually allowing new players into the kingdom.)  If RDR was actually coordinated, I'm almost certain things would have gone slightly differently.  Gennady was a good fella, I won't knock him, but for coordination?  We lacked considerably.  Granted, he did have some personal problems going on in real life.  I enjoyed his rhetoric.  :)

I'm sure I had something more to say...but it has seemed to disappear.  Ah well, maybe it will revisit. 

Cheers,
Psychopomp

this is my story i was a good member of rdr and i like it a lot it was pretty good like when we separated ourselves into cores and different sections. then afte our victory over kow which i didnt help much only a lttle because i was focusing on my economy , i didn't pay too much attention to the new kow members. After i created my first city "kat" i decided to expand my armory and my army so then we had troubles and i decided to train troops the troubles were wheter we should fight consequence or bears when they were weaker. i voted for consequence because we had an nap with bears but someone mr.trenton strongly oppossed to fight cons and wanted to fight bears which was dishonorable because we had an nap with them. after that day i didnt trust him too much. then afte a few days i see the post on forums that we are fighting Godlike and i was like okay lets fight them so we did. i didnt help they were too far away. somehow we were also fighting dr. after i send all my troops down south well half way anyways i noticed that dr broke through our defenses and i brought my army back north but i was too late because dr took one of my cities already. as i was going back i noticed that mr.treton had a lot of troops and wondered why  he wasnt helping down south. so i asked him and i think he told me to mind my own bussiness that he had his own plans. thats when i noticed he was planning something so days before treton revolted i warned grennady of the possible revolt and he says he too noticed it but he did nothing about it. after that i did not know wheter to send my troops to the souththern wall and cover there or send my troops to attack dr. i decided to attack dr. afte that mr.treton revolted and i tried to encourage everyone on the south to leave their cities and go into the cenatral core and protect the walls but nobody listened. so then as a last resort when tretn easily broke through our walls i said i had no other choice but to leave although i did manage to kille like 60k of tretons troops then i noticed it was all over so  i ask mr.treton that if i left rdr he will not attack me, so i left rdr. i'm not a traitor wiith treton out of the way i focused more on dr and took my city back and holded them off for quite some time but again with no backup from rdr i couldn't hold them off forever and one day the took over my defensive city big kat and with that out of the way they proceeded and easily got through and now they are in or core i lost my two big citys and its all over for me. i had no support from rdr but im still loyal i did wat was best for the kingdom and i know it we just weren't organized. Now kill me mr.trenton for lying to you.

To atredies:

No, no you do not. You hav far from it. So you say you wer force into being RDR, but gm told us that first he asked trenton if he need a kd, trenten say he did, and then he ask if rest of ex kows could join with him. you wer in no way forced, you signed the application, you swore the words <<Under oath, I swear to uphold the laws and constitution of the Russian Democratic Republic.>> so not only ar you un honourable but also a liar now too. if you cannot be trusted to hold that oath, what about naps and maps, you will betray those words too!~!~!

And how do you expect me and the rest for be prepared in only 24h??? my armies wer fighting in the east at DR, and the north at HELL. Same with all else. i though that south was secure, but then the betrayel of you. shame.

And Rhianna, unless you are atredies multi or something, stay out of our words. In my country, a man does not just walk into anothers discussion, it considered VERY rude.ty.

Mr. Zateb Kazim Report 11/18/2007 3:58:02 PM

To atredies: No, no you do not. You hav far from it. So you say you wer force into being RDR, but gm told us that first he asked trenton if he need a kd, trenten say he did, and then he ask if rest of ex kows could join with him. you wer in no way forced, you signed the application, you swore the words <<Under oath, I swear to uphold the laws and constitution of the Russian Democratic Republic.>> so not only ar you un honourable but also a liar now too. if you cannot be trusted to hold that oath, what about naps and maps, you will betray those words too!~!~! And how do you expect me and the rest for be prepared in only 24h??? my armies wer fighting in the east at DR, and the north at HELL. Same with all else. i though that south was secure, but then the betrayel of you. shame. And Rhianna, unless you are atredies multi or something, stay out of our words. In my country, a man does not just walk into anothers discussion, it considered VERY rude.ty.

Not in this forum....

And Rhianna, unless you are atredies multi or something, stay out of our words. In my country, a man does not just walk into anothers discussion, it considered VERY rude.ty.



Not in this forum....

well said verll....zateb....since you did not start this thread...and no one has heard from you in it until JUST NOW...i would have to say that it is YOU who has just walked into another PERSONS conversation, one that was going quite well, THANK YOU, until you decided to jump in bashing people and cutting them down for no other reason that i can see but that they did something you didnt like...it is over and done with...get over it and move on...it does no good to sit there and stew over what can not be changed.

If that's so..than why are you still arguing about it. If it were me, I would just take the win gracefully and not stay around and bicker with them about it. If they are sore losers, that has nothing to do with you, you don't have to keep on going and insult them some more and just make their losing even harder for them to stomach.

well said rhianna , BRAVO!!!..3...2...1. okay guys rap it up rdr's dead now delete the embassy thread

this isnt useless crap you are useless crap

they were at war with Dark Riders only. then we attacked and others followed seeing how weak they were. "they're dirty, underhanded tricks." we gave them a 24 tick warning. so we didn't do anything dishonorable. make sure you know what you are talking about before you say something

what is barbaric us or the other KDs

what is barbaric us or the other KDs

The lot of you are, cons, rev, godlike. 3kds on 1 sounds pretty damn barbaric to me. Granted they had 42 members, the most of those members were beginners, and you cant ridicule them for that, this is zetamania after all.

PS<> DR is the acception, on the half that RDR declared war on them.

lol... you guys need to go to Fantasia already Borazon ;)

Dude, im not even on hoh...