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| Fantasia 70 | ||||
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| 19:56:04 Sep 16th 20 - Konstant (The Ancient Ressart): Hey! Hey! Hey! | ||||
| 06:39:41 Sep 17th 20 - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Jesus Left Toe): I'm trying to farm in peace, and Holy keep attacking me. Can someone confirm that it is Blasphemy to attack me? ;) | ||||
| 08:51:00 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): Anyone willing to point out how's fighting who, currently? | ||||
| 10:03:00 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Bogdan: Holy and CE are clearing out the remaining cities from Berzerkerz and mad, there are 3-4 strong armies remaining, but hopefully they will be cleared in the next few days. Not too much action. | ||||
| 10:05:21 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): Thanks Bogdan, So Holy and CE are allies? | ||||
| 10:11:17 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Bogdan: Yes, CE was defeated by Berzerkerz oop and we decided to nap them after that so that we can focus on Berzerkerz, because we've had some very strong suspicions that they are cheating (specifically their leader, pdc). | ||||
| 10:20:39 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): Thanks Bogdan, Still they must have done quite well if you need 2 large Kds (of 30) to bring them (11) down. We thought the era will be finished soon and we are now in CE's core. I was thinking that CE is fighting you, and didn't want to interfere in their fight. Now that I know they don't have a serious enemy, we can have some fun until end era. | ||||
10:38:39 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Fake Bling:Mr. Bogdan: And so you NAPED the whole map... what a bunch of... | ||||
| 10:47:57 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Bogdan: Gladiatorul, well it was not really 30, CE was just rebuilding, they've recently started sending armies towards mad. | ||||
| 11:05:02 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): I can see what you say, Bogdan. 11 (B+M)) defeated 15 (CE) OOP, while H was farming. 15 (H) NAPed CE and defeated 11 (B+M). Because you and CE have NAPed your joint enemies are only B+M. That's 30 to 11. It's not my intention to point fingers, just to give some credit to B, with the assumption they weren't cheating. | ||||
| 11:21:46 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Bogdan: If you like doing the math like this, yes (but you are ignoring a lot of things, like half of our kd isn't / wasn't playing, CE didn't help fighting B, but still they've had some very good armies). | ||||
| 11:26:29 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): It's suspicious indeed to split a KD in 2, when you can have a larger and stronger one. I wonder why Zeta does nothing about it. It would be easy for him to figure out if they give cities to each other. Or which other forms of cheating do you suspect they did? | ||||
| 11:53:06 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Bogdan: Last era one MAD farmer had a wh city which pdc was using to boost his army. This era we didn't have vision over their core but we've seen city swapping in the area where we had vision between B and M and back to other B members. | ||||
| 11:59:20 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): I think it would be strange to use scripts. I am not a coder, but doesn't that mean that he's messed with Zeta's code? Regarding the MP, is there a possibility that he didn't have any MP on his army, you dispel, check freeze chance and find it same? | ||||
| 12:04:43 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Bogdan: I think it would be strange to use scripts. I am not a coder, but doesn't that mean that he's messed with Zeta's code? Not really, you can just create a scripts which will do things for you automatically."Regarding the MP, is there a possibility that he didn't have any MP on his army, you dispel, check freeze chance and find it same?" No, he had mp applied. | ||||
| 12:09:32 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): And that script wouldn't be detectable by Zeta if necessary? | ||||
| 12:16:08 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): Well, if what you say it's true, Zeta should try looking for clues. Otherwise, it's bad for the game. | ||||
| 12:23:33 Sep 17th 20 - Mr. Bogdan: I don't know what kind of logs Zeta has or if he is even interested into checking this, but I was hoping that maybe some of them have some decency and won't accept playing the game this way any more and if the cheating players won't have support any more they might stop doing it. | ||||
| 13:05:51 Sep 17th 20 - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Jesus Left Toe): I may have landed 5 rl days late, and bought med sci instead of mining acidentally, so I might not have been paying that much attention; but the only feeding I saw going on was CE feeding PDC and Kool, and Holy leaving any undefended cities they could find for Bogdan. I will admit, I did see some cities swapping hands between MAD and Berserkers; but given they were either blockers, or subsequently B&D by an orc, I'm not sure I see what you're whinging about. As for cheating, 1) why would you bother? & 2) Magic is cheating. ;) On a side note: If you think someone is using scripts to cast their magic for them, why not keep dispelling magic until they burn up all their MU's; the script won't care about odds or losses; then SS them, problem solved. I remember the days when their was the burden of proof; but Bogdan seems to want to be Judge, Jury and (pitifully weak) Executioner. | ||||
13:27:43 Sep 17th 20 - Dragon Prophet Theophilus:Jesus Left Toe: Rich rhetoric from the Water Walker himself. Dwarf Boats are cheating. | ||||
| 14:25:25 Sep 17th 20 - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Jesus Left Toe): I did a public service by crossing the seas. Raising awareness of the problem is obviously the best way to get people looking into a solution. | ||||
| 14:40:31 Sep 17th 20 - Konstant (The Ancient Ressart): Glad, I'm not sure how long you've been out of the game, but typically looking at KD #'s isn't necessarily an accurate representation of how many members they have playing. | ||||
| 16:00:03 Sep 17th 20 - Percy (Sir Cuimn of Kilcummin): Good to see you back Glad! As for this era, half of Holy had RL stuff at minimum hinder or (in my case) completely halt playing for 2-3 weeks. When Zerkers fed PDC and he came at us with a super strong army, we grouped up and defeated him, which is what allowed for a swift killing of Zerkers. Much like the last I was in Gladiators Reborn, where we fought a large Kobu Axemen army and I was able to magically weaken him enough for you to kill. We did the same thing here and turned the tide. Been a steamroll ever since. | ||||
| 16:24:18 Sep 17th 20 - Konstant (The Ancient Athena The Wise): That's fantastic. I'm *glad* he's back to hopefully shake up Fantasia a bit. | ||||
| 23:48:38 Sep 17th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): @Konstant The 30 are just numbers indeed. But in these 2 KDs of your have what I thought the 'cream' of Fantasia this era would be: Bogdan, Sal and Percy (as Mage) (in Holy) plus some strong players and evil mage in CE, too. That was the reason I would have given credit to the small KD (B). However, I disagree with any form of cheating and the simple fact that they split MAD, could be a confirmation of Bogdan's observations. I just wish they will unify their KD again, either under MAD or Bersekers banner and stop cheating, if this is what they currently do. Better die with pride than win by cheating. @Percy, thank you for the introduction. That flatters me, although I know I am not as famous as your words say. Frankly when I first looked at the KDs and KDs composition, I expected the Grand Finale for Fantasia Trophy to be between CE and Holy. Therefore, my surprise to hear out it took 2 large and strong KDs to bring 11 players down. I was not aware at that time about the cheating accusations though. And by the way, it was Aloy's army that we had to handle one year back and not Kobu's. @ Alloy and PDC - how about you guys decide to merge your KD (I remember you playing under MAD banner a year back), and have some nice and fair fights for the next era? | ||||
| 00:27:34 Sep 18th 20 - Mr. Mavech: It's so funny how some people think they know every aspect of the game but when the time comes when they can't explain what is happening they blame on cheating. We never fed PDC, PDC basically single-handedly killed off CE. If you had half a brain you can see all of the upper part of the map belonged to PDC (where CE core used to be and putting aside strategic blockers and armory). I'll just leave this last part, If you really know how to play the game, you would know how to maximize your gains (not even talking about stging). If you don't, just shut up you are embarrassing yourself by claiming people are cheating just because you are not able to do it. | ||||
| 00:56:09 Sep 18th 20 - Konspyre (Captain Bonifatius): Let's just take a step back here. What happened with Bogdan's freeze attempts was 100% suspicious, but not in any way true proof. PDC's unhealthy activity has been proven often enough in the past eras. If he truly is active enough to counter Bogdan's attempts like he did this era, then i think we should be more concerned about PDC's own well-being, rather than any cheating, because that kind of activity truly can't be healthy. Try going to the gym, or pick up a hobby or something, i guess? The zerkers+MAD feeding has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, so there can't be an actual argument about that. It'd be like denying 2+2=4. Shame on you guys, maybe go do what Gladiatorul suggested and actually merge up? Cheers | ||||
| 01:02:44 Sep 18th 20 - Exalted Brute Salamon: Mavech get the hell out of that weak attempt of a deflection. We straight out saw PDC plunder a WH from MAD last era. Who knows what else... guess you want to die on your cheating hill with him. | ||||
| 04:59:46 Sep 18th 20 - Mr. Duckk: This era is toxic for all. Y’all are arguing like children in this and the other thread. Can you all vote yes so that the era ends and others can come play on the world as well?? | ||||
| 05:19:57 Sep 18th 20 - Jack Daniels The drunk (Mr. Treasure Chest): i have voted yes 3 times now at this point my only goal is to find no voters and kill them | ||||
| 05:37:34 Sep 18th 20 - Percy (Sir Cuimn of Kilcummin): That’s been our strategy as well... I have no problem casting a fourth Arma, but getting tired of wasting MUs and MTs for people to throw a hissie fit and cause us to wait even further. At this rate, we know for sure it resets in 8 days. I won’t end this Arma until either all “No” voters are either eradicated or will willingly vote yes. | ||||
| 05:41:13 Sep 18th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): How many 'No's are allowed? I guess you will never know for sure where the 'No' comes from. What if it's from Holy or CE? | ||||
| 06:22:37 Sep 18th 20 - Percy (Sir Cuimn of Kilcummin): I know for sure none are from Holy, and I’d like to assume it’s not CE, but it’s anyone’s guess... all it takes is 3 no’s before 50% yes’s to stop Arma from instantly ending the era, and it usually gets that many no’s before there’s even 10 yes’s. | ||||
| 07:34:22 Sep 18th 20 - Ryan the Archion (Duke Ryan The Archion XXVIII): Was Arma casted the third time already? I forgot how it works, so if you don't have any cities you can't vote anymore? | ||||
| 08:23:35 Sep 18th 20 - Percy (Sir Cuimn of Kilcummin): Yes, this current cast is #3. I cast the first time, it failed, so waited and tried to sneak one in when my KD was on and it still failed. So stopped it quickly and waited till people calmed down and did it again. Appears people still weren’t quite calm enough to let the world end yet, so now we’re just gonna let it run out. Good question... I had always assumed just being alive (even just a scout) let’s you vote. I could be way wrong on that, it’s just an assumption :) | ||||
| 09:23:00 Sep 18th 20 - Kobuskan (Sir Kobuskan): That why I still have a city on the map to beable to vote NO | ||||
| 10:04:41 Sep 18th 20 - Lord Caedus: How much of a majority does the game need for instant end? | ||||
| 10:25:53 Sep 18th 20 - Mr. Fake Bling: +1 | ||||
| 15:04:11 Sep 18th 20 - Percy (Sir Cuimn of Kilcummin): There must be 50% of the worlds populace vote yes before there are 3 no’s for it to instant end. Since there’s generally 5-7 people who have been voting no before we even garner 10 yes’s, we don’t stand a chance to end the era... via Arma votes | ||||
| 16:26:01 Sep 18th 20 - Penguin (Clown Saint Josaphat Kuntsevych): @Glad- Bogdan,sal and percy the cream??! Like wannabe cobra, the hairy yeti with ugly feet and the gingerino persimmon can be the cream of fantasia.. Don't make me laugh you good for nothing old fart! | ||||
| 00:26:51 Sep 19th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): @ Penguin Everyone has different experiences - having had a look to the composition of KDs - this is what my opinion was. There are many players I don't know of, that could be part of the list. Say for example PDC. He came in the game at the time I left. So, I didn't know him and didn't expect he will perform as well as he did. I have to admit, I could have included Aloy in this list, too, after his efforts in the last era we fought against. | ||||
| 00:38:28 Sep 19th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): But Aloy was part of the 11, and if I mentioned him, I would have weakened my 'point', wouldn't I. | ||||
| 15:45:21 Sep 19th 20 - Sir Aloysius XCII: I login to check if new era is ready. It's still in the ARMA countdown. Thus, I can't unseen this forum. hahaha First, To @Bogdan and to those who believe about scripting... this era.... It is not possible. Please, you guys are great players already. It just so happened that you and your enemy was both online and that RNG did not favor you. Just man-up and admit that you got owned on that scenario, mate. I played this game for a very long time. Making scripts to automate your activity in this classic game was not worth the money and time. Second, Regarding Feeding, Im sure that me and the remaining two members of MAD did not even bother to trying to feed any Berserkers this era. MAD's plan was to fight OOP since we didn't expect CE or Berserkers to offer NAP. I declined CE's offer of alliance because, hours before them, Berserkers offered NAP first. PDC getting big was because of the spoils he got from OOP war. Don't be whiners about that, PDC took care most of the undefended cities of CE. Plus, no one bothered to compete against PDC in the Tree Market. You farmed-up in your own little corner too. Third... I will still play under this yellow banner, I don't care if I was the only one remaining here or if former members came back. Berserkers, they are formerly MAD members, was a different kingdom with different leadership style. Don't make it sound that we are one kingdom that's split into two just to cheat. You guys are just making yourselves low on your own standards. | ||||
| 02:44:00 Sep 20th 20 - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Jesus Left Toe): Can confirm that a city is required to vote for Arma, if someone loses all their cities, their vote does not appear to be counted. Building a new city will add that vote back to the tally. Given there are only 3 Berserker cities left, and 4 no votes, there would appear to be a non Berserker no vote. | ||||
| 03:15:33 Sep 20th 20 - Gladiatorul (Mr. Gladiatorul): Those in protection can’t vote as well | ||||
| 03:27:13 Sep 20th 20 - Exalted Brute Salamon: that would be dragon prophet... also thanks for coming you guys are a holes | ||||
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