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Carnage DB and Lgc. who else is there?

your not a major kd yet sonny :D well on your way but not there yet ;)

yes he is saying that.

xD

"Before the era began, I didn't think PKS was very good. After seeing them in action, I was wrong. They're just terrible."

Haha, sloth just won 5 internets.

Well, PKS got shiety scores because they underestimated the WoL players in their core :p
If not for LGC and Zeon, PKS would have been squashed even more.

i feel like lgc is always on top of swifty.......................he is the catcher for the kd right?

Mr. Draven Report 3/21/2008 2:55:16 PM

Abydos crush Carnage lmao Osi, Aby couldn't crush Carnage even if we ourselves helped you

you clearly wernt playing when we beat back then broke Carnages core after beating lgc a few eras ago eh? oh yeah you had 40 members that time too



Osi bro, i have been in Carnage this time 10 straight era's. i was there then, i was there when in the second era of Carnage reformed we sent Aby to another world. i had respect for you and your kingdom, dont believe me ask Stormie, i only lost respect for you when you started these area long flames about member counts. i didn't lose respect for you as a player of the game, just your opinions on the game. i was here as well when we allied Aby also. heck i've known you dont like more then 22 member kingdoms for quite some time. that dear sir doesn't make it a rule of law for vu itself. maybe i'm mistaken, but somehow you seem to think that 30-40 member kingdoms equals lesser skilled players. i'll put my skills against you or anyone else in vu. that's why i say bring it, don't sing it as my motto. these forums feed flames is all. you hate us so bad, come at us, not talk about us. if you want to underestimate me or my kingdom that's fine. just makes an easier target to get through in my opinion. but hey, what do i know right? i'm just a newb or so i know i'll be called, i was there when we battled Mafia, and i'll be here if and when we battle Aby next.

Another retarded topic like this? :(

ok =D

LGC are a bunch of nubs =]

Osi bro, i have been in Carnage this time 10 straight era's. i was there then, i was there when in the second era of Carnage reformed we sent Aby to another world.  <--- funny the only kd that did that was NT in our first era so when did this happen again? and please i didnt start these long flames Archy did i just like responding :)

bring back mirror

Some neutral looks at Kingdoms...

Most of you have been here a lot longer than me (hell I am still learning) but since I have been around, this is what I have seen... I could be wrong and if people can resist the flames, this is a serious outlook and I am curious to see who agrees/disagrees and why...

Not really looking for a what??? We could kill so and so... this view is not about that... Just a quick look at some kingdoms...
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Top Kingdoms...
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Carnage: Always been a top kingdom, some ages are better than others, but they are always a top kingdom.

Legacy: They were not as strong when I started, but every era they seem to get stronger and stronger...they have definitely evolved into another top kingdom.

Abydos: They were a top kingdom, but they seemed to get weaker and weaker each age. I do suspect we will eventually see their return as a front player though.

Zeon: Were always a top kingdom, but this era they lost players I believe and fell quite a bit. No longer top kingdom material, though Like Abydos I suspect we will see their return again.
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Medium tiered kingdoms
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PK: I have watched them get bigger and better and continue to develop into what will be a top kingdom while everyone berates them. I suspect a few eras down the road we will see them in the #1 slot. (Be prepared for more flaming pk...but ignore it and keep getting stronger and stronger). It could be argued they are already a top kingdom, and if not, they are about as damn close as you can get...

DB: Not a top kingdom, but not a bunch of chumps either. They have some VERY GOOD players, Although not a major force, they do play a big second tier role that demand some sort of relations. Either you hit them or you peace them, you cannot just ignore them, when allied with a top kingdom that can make or break a war.
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Bottom tiered kingdoms

Bow, Redhand, falcons...etc... whatever they are called, it is always good to have them nearby... cities are always claimed by those they are near. They are however, the top bottom tired kingdom.

Eternity: Some good players, but a lot like BoW

Everyone else: Free cities
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Hard to say...

PHI: I understand before I played that they were quite good but then they disbanded. Last era they teamed with a very strong Zeon and together gave Carnage a run for their money. During this time DB kept PK occupied and Aby kept FF & Legacy occupied, so Carnage was essentially on their own against Phi/Zeon... It was a stalemate for most of the age, Phi/Zeon began to push Carnage back from a developing north, but the more the pushed the closer they got to a very developed south and Carnage was about to really make a push into the Zeon southern core.  This was actually a very fun era with a lot of strat and equal kingdoms keeping each other busy.

But back to Phi...Allied with a strong Zeon, they were a MAJOR FORCE...But would they have held up against Carnage without Zeon? I'd have to say no, do to how close the era with zeon at their side was. That and the fact that this era, w/o Zeon...they fell fast.

Jester: I miss them...They were quite strong as well, I was still too green to be able to judge them fairly, they seemed a force, but not as much of one as ABY was that age. I know Carnage had soundly defeated red hand and was moving toward jester as the era ended, but I never got to see them really fight, But I got the impression they were quite good. I am sure some of you can better rate them.

Mirror: was a lot like PK is today...I was sorry to see them go. I actually started with them, but Music/Jester wiped us out and that is when I personally made the jump to carnage.

Music: I was sorry to see them go too...Again to new to judge them fairly, they seemed like a top kingdom...Others who knew them could judge them much better.


Feel free to add to Kingdoms I missed...

LOL

that's all that needs to be said :P

you should learn VU history before you make such funny posts

Q...that was a sincere post...I am looking for serious feedback... If I am wrong, I really want to be told why, not told the post is "funny"  And I do not know VU history, nor do I claim to...

This is my personal outlook since I began playing...

Abydos: They were a top kingdom, but they seemed to get weaker and weaker each age. I do suspect we will eventually see their return as a front player though. <-- lol we won last era you ass tard so were?

Abydos has won 2 of the last 5 eras. we have only played 3 of the last 5 (including this era.)

Last 5 eras

Abydos  (disbanded a lot of the guys went and formed Nemesis)
Nemesis (Abydos + Smiths)
Phi although the map was one big stalemate really top places are mostly phi close second to carnage
Abydos (although raist jumped to first in questionable circumstances the top 15 is abydos dominated
Legacy (this era)

so please show me how when the last 5 eras have been our best that we were in decline and carnage (who failed to do much at all last 5 eras) has been a constant top kd?

when did you beging playing btw?

Zeon were never a top top kd. never have been. I would put them at the same lvl as PHI.

To compare Mirror to pks is laughable as PKS suck and have sucked for at least 10 eras in a row.

Abydos has been the top kd the last 5 eras in terms of end scores. we beat lgc twice in the last 5 eras Imo although the era ended before victory was 100% sure last era so at least once.

I thought these were funny comments:


Carnage: Always been a top kingdom, some ages are better than others, but they are always a top kingdom.

Legacy: They were not as strong when I started, but every era they seem to get stronger and stronger...they have definitely evolved into another top kingdom.

and

I disagree with your look about Legacy...I think they have become a top kingdom.


You make it sound like Carnage were a top kingdom before LGC, and LGC only recently "evolved" into a top KD, to join the likes of Carnage as the "top kds" in the game. Hehe. Somebody hasn't been checking the old VU highscores. (protip: LGC has won more rounds than ANY other kingdom in VU, and was the forerunner of "top kds" until Serenity, Abydos, and eventually Carnage, etc joined them) =P


Oh well. The award for the best newcomer kingdom goes to: LGC! Well done, you took us all by surprise. ;)

oops I think this is directed at Digger...

I disagree with your look about Legacy...I think they have become a top kingdom.

I also agree it is very hard to rate kingdoms... I found my post very hard to compile... it is why I asked for serious responses... I think if kingdoms and players can put their vanity away for this thread, we could engage in some good conversations that would help to improve kingdoms and play styles for all of us.

I am not looking for PK sucks... I am looking for, if you feel that way I am asking why?

Personally I see greater teamwork, good magic use. Organized attacks, etc...PK is getting stronger in my eyes every age since I started...

Mr. Digger Report 3/22/2008 7:12:36 AM

It's tough to sum up entire kds because most of them change players around a lot. You are very wrong about legacy thunder. Also you've overrated Zeon, Carnage, DB and PKS.

clearly some ppl in Legacy overrate themselves a bit too much

@Spermstorm... Not at all...I keep saying this is my PERSONAL VIEW and only as of WHEN I STARTED... people keep missing that.


Was Carnage always a top kingdom? Probably not, everyone has to start somewhere. BUT since I have been around, albeit not nearly as long as many of you, Carnage has always been a top kingdom.

As for Legacy, I have heard they were awesome before i started playing, and they drove fear into the hearts of men everywhere...I do not debate this, I cannot debate this, I wasn't here. All I said about Legacy, and I do stand by it, is that since I started playing I have watched them get stronger and stronger, and that I consider them a top kingdom...Those are not bad things...


But please keep in mind this is just a quick outlook at the past few ages...not one that delves back into VU history... I mean Most WWII vets could kill me in a heart beat when they were in their prime. But TODAY, I could beat them all up... Know what I mean?

yes but you make it out as if carnage is THE top kd but has won less eras in the last 5 then any of the other top kds. so it makes no sense

Thunder, the point of contention wasn't your admittance that LGC is currently a top KD, but the order of precedence.

You made out LGC only recently evolved into a top kd, after Carnage. Which is why a lot of people laughed.

@thunder: Lol?

You need to attend a VU history class mate...

Snowfall:

Definately a top KD. Won every round they where around:)

Brent and Lewatha really need to read and understand this is only a look at the last few era, and from my point of view...If you feel you are so wise, add to the conversation...Point out what and why you feel I am wrong? Or are you incapable of real thought?

As Twamao realizes and tried to point out, I only speak from my own experience and not for very many ages at all. But since I have been in the Game, Carnage is always a top player, as is Legacy or Abydos, etc...

What I want is serious feedback, not lunacy... if you want Lunacy join me in any of the other threads...I wanted one serious conversation...lol