Forums / In game politics / MAD Traitors

Okay Minx, thank you for your input.

Hohenheim would you care to make a response? The basic thing your original post showed was that MAD apply NAPs but make sure they have something they consider to be a viable get out clause, the conversation was finalised when the offer was accepted by IoK, afterall you offered the agreement to the NAP...

Good. Now were back at the main topic.

Yep Hilario offered a NAP to them but the agreement is still not closed. I usually see that every NAP agreement we had were sealed and ended completely as our vices posted it in our relation thread.

We were only told (PM) by our Ryan to cease all attacks against IoK. That's why iam asking Elldorian to give us a copy of their conversation and posted it in here and to discuss. (As you notice, no vices of MAD were active to reply here even got online for these past few RL days. As they have internet problems in Philippines.)

Now according to Talents forum. One of our member attacked IoK, I believe its Milk. And Ell were claiming that MAD had NAPed with IoK. This issue was brought into our forums. Then Ell retaliate in public forums and start prepping on a MAD city. Ell's army was kicked after a 24hr notice. Then he retaliate again in public forums saying that MAD were traitors. This could have been settled easily without flaming in the forums. Then a series of attacks in both ends happened.

After that, we couldn't even discussed that problems in our forums and I, personally and some members recommend to our councils to destroy IoK since Ell called us traitors in public forums.

Sorry ive been inactive for a day. i PM'd it to aloy but ill put them here.

You (8/3/2009 3:49:49 PM)
I was writing this message to offer MAD a MAP against talents defense force, the Dynamite members about to attack you and forgotten ones on talents.

My Kingdom and ignis the war have been warring for a few days now but with those armies coming from the south it would be in both of our best interests to join forces and attempt to repel them together.

Divine Elldarion
Leader of The Imperium Of Knights
Mr. Hilario (8/3/2009 3:59:58 PM) GOOD BAD
I can only agree in NAP. Aloy is not yet around.
You (8/3/2009 4:01:56 PM)
Okay. a NAP will be fine.
Mr. Hilario (8/4/2009 1:53:48 PM) GOOD BAD
Will put it on forums now
You (8/4/2009 2:01:29 PM)
ill do the same :P


this is what aloy said

You (8/12/2009 9:43:45 PM)
You (8/3/2009 3:49:49 PM) I was writing this message to offer MAD a MAP against talents defense force, the Dynamite members about to attack you and forgotten ones on talents. My Kingdom and ignis the war have been warring for a few days now but with those armies coming from the south it would be in both of our best interests to join forces and attempt to repel them together. Divine Elldarion Leader of The Imperium Of Knights Mr. Hilario (8/3/2009 3:59:58 PM) GOOD BAD I can only agree in NAP. Aloy is not yet around. You (8/3/2009 4:01:56 PM) Okay. a NAP will be fine.
Mr. Aloysius (8/13/2009 2:50:39 AM)
He said 'I can only agree in NAP'. Is that a yes?
You (8/13/2009 8:16:55 AM)
That was just the relevant part of the messages i then said yes and he said hel put it in forums
Mr. Aloysius (8/13/2009 10:32:01 AM)
where it is? can you make it complete.
You (8/13/2009 11:15:36 AM)
You (8/3/2009 3:49:49 PM) I was writing this message to offer MAD a MAP against talents defense force, the Dynamite members about to attack you and forgotten ones on talents. My Kingdom and ignis the war have been warring for a few days now but with those armies coming from the south it would be in both of our best interests to join forces and attempt to repel them together. Divine Elldarion Leader of The Imperium Of Knights Mr. Hilario (8/3/2009 3:59:58 PM) GOOD BAD I can only agree in NAP. Aloy is not yet around. You (8/3/2009 4:01:56 PM) Okay. a NAP will be fine. Mr. Hilario (8/4/2009 1:53:48 PM) GOOD BAD Will put it on forums now You (8/4/2009 2:01:29 PM) ill do the same :P

You (8/8/2009 3:59:38 PM)
Lord Ryan, This fight between MAD and IOK has gone on for too long. it is an uneeded war and if MAD have any honor they would cease there attacks. But regardless from honor This war does not benefit you in anyway. Even Ignis admitted the price for the troops he lost is more to him then the cities that he gained which were mostly wrecked. I ask that you return this area to us and give us a few days and in return we will aid you in your wars against Dynamite and any other Kingdoms that you wish help against. Divine Elldorian Grandmaster of the Imperium of Knights
Mr. Ryan The Archion II (8/8/2009 4:06:45 PM)
Nah, I don't think you are capable of aiding us. I've seen you play for a long time. Eversince you are just a teacher and not a warrior.
You (8/8/2009 4:08:41 PM)
Ask ignis himself. Our kingdom wiped out over 8/10 of his troops and killed most of Hannibals armies. If you allow us the time we can aid you. Ask around of when i was in G O D L I K E. i am a teacher when the time calls for it. but i am a warrior when needed.
Mr. Ryan The Archion II (8/8/2009 4:15:00 PM)
I haven't seen your warrior side if it's true you have it. Sad to say I can't rely to your promises. I can't accept the offer.
You (8/8/2009 4:15:32 PM)
It is not just promises. which is why i ask you to before you decide enquire with Ignis.
Mr. Ryan The Archion II (8/8/2009 4:16:36 PM)
Nah. Even if I inquire with Ignis nothing will be change.
You (8/8/2009 4:17:47 PM)
I see. okay.
Mr. Ryan The Archion II (8/9/2009 1:08:32 PM)
Uhm..could I change my mind? It seems we will now focus at Dynamite. Wanna be a Protectorate?
You (8/9/2009 1:19:07 PM)
dunno wat that means but would we be allowed some of our cities back?
Mr. Ryan The Archion II (8/9/2009 1:22:10 PM)
Nope. We will just be stopping in attacking you guys. So you could build up there. Still you will aid us against any enemy withini your sight.
You (8/9/2009 1:23:28 PM)
well it may take some time for us to aid you then as you have killed some members completely...... it would make more sense to give each of our playerswho you have killed one city back..
Mr. Ryan The Archion II (8/9/2009 1:33:48 PM)
Nah. We are giving you a good deal for this. Still you ask for more..
You (8/9/2009 1:41:29 PM)
I accept then.
Mr. Ryan The Archion II (8/9/2009 5:30:55 PM)
Ok then... It's now on our forum.

Mr. Malimor (8/14/2009 2:46:32 AM)
The enemy has 1771 soldiers armed with Magic weapons and mithril armor. They have 0 peasants traveling with them. We have 100% chance winning this battle. Please State your business Or Be Slauterd........ If You are stuck and cannot move from my city E-Mail VU Admins email can be found at the V-U Login Page.
You (8/14/2009 2:52:28 AM)
i was trying to talk to you on chat and got ignored...try opening your city walls for me to move...
Mr. Malimor (8/14/2009 5:09:58 AM)
Right now there is a post stating that one of your members attack Dropkick ( Member of MAD ) Due to this action I am not able to open my gates and let you move your army. Please Speak with Aloysius regarding the opening of Dalingard's gates, Thank you. Sir Malimor.
You (8/14/2009 5:12:33 AM)
Hmmm well i dont quite understand that as what happened is Milk attacked my army that was prepping on heaven and then we attacked some MAD cities.
Mr. Malimor (8/14/2009 5:18:16 AM)
Please awnser to PMs.

the above one is about the blockers. its good to see after ryan said MAD will halt attacks they havent :)

he asked me to answer pm's on chat. go and ask him. i thn did speak to him on chat......

haha man this is funny

@Eldorian,
Hilario was not active enough to play this era, he forgot to post that half cooked NAP. I apologize for that but I believe apology is not needed since you cant wait for me and you dont asked for any recuperation.
I really thought you and Ryan sorted it out already. I believed Ryan informed all my members to cease all attacks on your good IOK kingdom.
But, you still cant get over it or cant stop posting the traitors that is MAD. Congrats to that.. you brought Ez attention. I owe you one. :D
You are a fine leader to me, its just that you need someone at your side to help you run a kingdom so that 12-24hours is not too long for you to wait for some of us to get online. There is no such thing as ideal kingdom.
ps. I can ignore Ez anyway. jk.

Mr. Haya


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18:41:56 Aug 15th 09
Haya = Ezzy?



You do realise Me and Ez have a long history of being enemies? Me and Ez were fighting eachother on VU before you had the IQ to be able to actually log in to this game.
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Your foruming Speach Makes me Jizz a little.
Please stay

Just one of our members attack you. A newbie. Impatient you are, you retalliate without our response. It's not our fault.

really man, you should have contacted the leaders of MAD before atacking  MAD as milk and dropkick might be new noobs who dont know how to play the game (im not saying you are, just maybe), so maybe you were lead into a trap, and they were trying to lead you into war or you were just to impatient, maybe you were just to arogant or you take the game a bit to seriously, i guess theres other possabilites but yes they shouldnt have attacked you but 2 wrong dont make it right...

you lost stopp crying  about it

For what I know you said before that you have taken Bridge as a retalliation aginst Milk's action. So don't change that fact.

I still think I did the right thing by not letting you past my blocker, the thing is I actually was about to open my blocker but I saw the flashing forum new message and read it and what came up was that Divine Elldarion had attacked a MAD member so I didnt open the gates and I sent you that kind of threatening message, and I did not attack your army I waited for orders from Ither a Vice or the leader, I even told you I didnt think your small army was a threat and if it was my choice I would have let you past my gates but I did not have the proper facts strait or instructions to do so, so ya I just did nothing and sometimes nothing is the right thing to do.

Then you just know the MAD in the past.

/agrees with struddles

this is there level of honor...when exposed for being traitors they rolf... good move ryan...

this is  so funny MAD as got a record of doing things against their nap parterners  last era i remember them opening blockers for bunnies to attack LD and then denied the blocker blocked, when i for 1 knew it did as i tried b4 it was MADs blocker and failed on many attemps, MAD have become a very dishonarable kingdom and i dont know why :( they were a decent KD once but they are no longer and whats worse they bring down them around them. so why are you supprised they might attack a naped partener ? if it benifits them they will do it and make it look like your fault thats their ways.

everyone has a record of doing things against their NAP partners.

yep i was in LD too last era and they opened a blocker for bunnies, i even msged them about it but its direct action was me and another got hit hard and indeed i was wiped out. there was another blocker that opened for an attack on zond as well, and then another player who refused to close his city,despite the agreement,and it became a conduit for bunnies to come through. when confronted about it the player happily admitted he was playing favourites coz bunnies were ex vegies and that LD "shouldnt of picked a war with bunnies in the first place"(we didnt they happi;y admit they just picked us)

@Mielo, relax mate. dont believe everything you read. Small kingdoms never find big kingdoms honorable in situations like these. Their cities are just too small for a percentage on our production page. Why do I need to bother when the whiner never ask for any recuperation. He instead bring the arguments here for what? ofc, for others who hated MAD (up to now) to flame it.

They are just one of the many small kingdoms we have relations this era. I can say out of 10 small kingdoms who we agreed to ignore, only one kingdom decided to bring their grievance here. AND it means we have no more to talk about anymore.

I will not apologize to that Kathandarion player. He chose to bring it here. He can cry forever.

And if he succeeds to decrease our honor level in this game. :D Its ok, I still have friends (multis for Ezzy's eye) who view this mad kingdom the other way around anyway.

and now you are talking about alliance. after this what's next.

lol

Lol Random.... you may not SOUND like you have a pole up your ass, but... ;)

lol at how not a single MAD member has actually even tried to prove me wrong. theyve all just said 'stop crying' and left.

@ Ellodorian (i cbf puttin ure new name)

i only attacked cause u attacked me. i was told by whoever i cant remember i deleted the message that we have MAP with u but i wasnt attacking u and then i signed in 1 day and my cities bridge, chwaa two were taken over by u. i got annoyed because u broke they MAP so i killed u its that simple.

the  reality is that all this big flamers are a bunch of no name guys who  have no knowledge of the  history  VU and  play every era in another  new small   kingdoms whit no  experience...  i personally don't give a rat  about this flames just play the game  like i did  in the last 15 eras or so ..