• 11:29:08 Feb 3rd 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):
  With regards to WSS, we've fought RoC, FW, Hornwood, and Mormont for the majority of the era. And the only reason we didn't attack Ferox was because they were restarting.

"those make difference"

Not these days.

this dude be chasing me, not sure it's to give me an apple though :D

"So I don't see why you should be sad about the CF's"

This is the default setting. NAP/CF is like asking to use the bumpers in a bowling tournament ^^

If you've played Civilization 5-6, consider Hornwood a city-state lol. Stelius and I want to have our own Kingdom, but aren't active enough to make a solid contribution anywhere. So like the city-states in civ, we just take a small area and either have small battles, get killed, or do the bidding of who influences us the most, in this case Mormont. 

We've already got our hands full, Binh! Now we have to deal with this bloody farmer too....Thanks a lot mate!

"Yay!!! We got one bloody farmer summoned into the army!"

Better cast again!

"We've already got our hands full, Binh! Now we have to deal with this bloody farmer too"

We've got our hands full too. We need all the farmers we can get. We get los of your armies and move ours to counter, and three more big armies turn up. How many do you have? :o

Yeah aotd is pretty damn good now i am seeing how much it has changed this game. To be honest its that bloody bogdan, blah and binh... alliteration i call it. 

Trick with dealing with aotd is to have as many or more people training aotd armies in your kingdom as well...

"Sadly not enough to beat your AoTD armies"

A 200k AM army, your own 20k naz army, 700k knights!!! on top of your big dwarf armies. Even some of your late era halfling armies were huge.

Until a few days ago you still had a good chance at beating us (or at least a whole lot of mutual destruction). You had the op and player count to do a tonne of damage to us, but things are turning our way now.

"That's one way. Another is to siege trap or rof it."

Or stop it before it begins. If it doesn't have enough op it will get walked over by any high op army.

I do not agree with orc best race stuff. You can do it will elf also (you can get even stronger armies with elf). If an orc fights oop he won't be that strong later (I only spammed to defend oop, rox did the fighting). You don't need crazy amount of coordination, but indeed you need strong magic or strong armies. Orcs get weak armies in case they lose some troops (by slaughter or rof) because nazzies are expensive, so unlike other races they can't easily retrain the troops. If the aotd spell is made harder to cast then it will be even harder for the other races to use it.

I personally would like to see Aotd made into a more high risk spell like ownage and nazguls costs reduced to circa 30k and see how it works.

AotD revives all dead troops in an army from all previous battle(s) {given that you have not merged the army into another army after the battle(s)}.

Oh you don't know? From the last era on Fantasia. :P

And for 200 gold less I had better OP/DP than you than your pony army. 

Obviously maths aint your strong point

Hammerthrowers

300 3 3

Pony riders

800 6 4

Well, as an orc, I play aggressive, so the plunders kept those going all era quite nicely till my nazz were ready, unlike you who couldnt afford your upkeep on the ponies and let them die.

Regarding magic part of the argument.

Wanna beat and orc, play as orc. Simples

"You shouldn't need all those armies + crazy amounts of coordination just to kill 1 enemy army."

You didn't really. You had your own aotdable armies strong enough to counter ours earlier in the era (Like an elf who chose not to have mil sci? I wonder why that was ;D ) but they we're attacking elsewhere, and your "less aotdable" armies were fighting our orcs :)

The main problem you have at the moment is we are 6 weeks into the era (wow). The Elf/troll domination part of the era is ending. This part of the era belongs to orc :D   (and xp Halfling) 

"I do agree with your point regarding "stop it before it begins", but unfortunately that's not always a possibility."

No it's not always possible. Like any elf or late era attacker, an orc is choosing to suck for 3-4 weeks for a shot at ending up with a powerful army. Either they will succeed or they will get killed off during their sucky period. (provided their not CF/NAPing threats to guarantee success, it isn't that big a deal)

"Also, Orcs are arguably the most powerful race OOP, so its difficult fighting them early era as well."

If you want to kill them right oop it can be, but you don't need to wipe them out. If an orc (or any other late era player) is spending their gold filling their mines with gaia, their probably not farming.

I was "interrupted" for the first two-three weeks of the era and my army is only just becoming "deadly" (6 weeks into the era) compared to your high op armies.

"AoTD as a spell needs to be more balanced."

You can push for "balancing" aotd (I completely understand why a dwarf lover would want to) ;) but as Bogdan mentioned making it harder to cast will make it much harder for non-orcs than for orcs. The most reasonable way would be to make % to cast based on the amount of dead op your raising instead of dead troops, however right now aotd is the only thing that makes orc competitive after oop. Orcs troops would need to be adjusted (and so would most of the other races.)

I agree with that or atleast give me a world to try races peacefully and farm.

Cast mp and send scout in city