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Ms. Dung Beetle

Now I will have to continue getting pm's from that creepy Soccer guy.....

Not David Beckham?  Couyld you ask him for an autograph?  For my sister, you understand......

New arma from Sir scientist

And what exactly are you trying to say about us Osi?

And i am thinking the asnwer is....most of them are dwarfs?:P

im saying that saying a kd is sick and the new lgc because they are doing well in one era (not doing great or you would own the hoh) is ludacrus and that he should look a little closer at what goes on before saying things like that ;)

thats not totally true :P would you say phi has rampaged across the map? or would you say phi were better then carnage a couple rounds back because they had a hoh player and you didnt? and describing any kd as sick and the new lgc because the have 4 hoh players and top the hoh chart with the most members for one era?

HoH armies dominated by dwarves

i disagree. trolls have been dominating it this era, with some dwarves and a couple halflings and humans thrown in for good measure. orc is the only race that isnt represented

Armies sun armies read!

Ms. Dung Beetle Report 11/25/2007 4:45:33 PM

I loved the ownage of an arma town, damn that was funny:D But did you have to cast it all over again? I was ready for this headache of an era to be over with:( Now I will have to continue getting pm's from that creepy Soccer guy.....

isnt that the only reason u still play? ;)

same question goes for u dak.............. :)

Osi, why are you being all pissy?  You've got nothing to be mad about.  Your playing pissed because you are feeling inadequate on the battlefield so you gotta come in here and try to bash us.  A big reason as stated before as to why Carnage does not own the HoH is because we do not farm... 

You consider Nemesis a great kingdom?  They did the same as Bacchus or whatever, they farmed and did nothing all era.  If Carnage were to stop killing like we do so well and farm for an era I guarantee you'd see Carnage owning the Hoh, but again, it would be because we would be playing like the Majority of Fantasia, that is Farming all era for a top spot... 

As far as Abydos goes, you cant even keep the Kingdom together.  Oya isn't even coming back this time, so it'll probably fall apart again since he did all the planning.  You've tried to piece what it once was back together like 3-4 times now?  Yes, Abydos was once great KD, a Very long time ago, now it is with the small kids on the block.  LGC and DB usually earn their spots by killing things in much the same way that Carnage does, for this reason, they deserve them.

As stated before, you know just as well as any of us that the HoH is really screwed up.  We have 7 dwarfs in a kingdom of 35.  Can you seriously compare that legitimately to a kingdom with 20+ dwarfs?  How many Dwarfs are in PHI?  Can you tell me that?  I'm guessing alot more than 7...

Carnage doesn't farm, lol that's a laugh. You go ahead and try "farming for an era", see if you can survive to the end. My bet is that probably not...dishonorable KDs tend to get backstabbed when they don't make enough armies.

Nemesis wiped out LGC and DB, which is more than Carnage has ever accomplished on the battlefield. Sorry but the KDs you wiped out this era are not even in their league.

Really?  Already sinking to name calling?  I thought higher of you both, guess I was wrong.  I'm done here, there is no reasoning with you people.  Sadly I once considered Sloth and Virgin friends, and used to think Osi was a decent guy, I see I should have just listened to what the rest of VU was telling me, time wasted I guess.

Is Architect the Carnage "diplomat" or is he just freelancing? If the former, then they need to do some serious rethinking, lol. ;)

Lenard,

Look at what PHI has done. There's your answer. If you cant even see that, then I will not take the trouble to explain it.

As always Architect does not speak for us as a kingdom, he is off trying to start trouble again. (Damn son, here i thought venomz was the troublemaker:(

I am not going to even bother responding to alot of the drivel in here. Not worth it, because as history has shown era after era, people will always choose to believe what they want to believe regardless of what is said.

But I woud like to point out several things and then leave it at that.

<Carnage tries to say they're a "war KD", while all they've accomplished is beating up on new player KDs using 2x their amount of players. Currently you guys are NAPed with every single remaining Fantasia kingdom. At least I had the courage to fight good KDs such as LGC/DB when I made my own KD, win or lose. You don't think Naerey's ambitions of winning an era had anything to do with breaking our NAP terms?>

1. We are not napd to every last kingdom on Fant.
2. Courage to fight good kingdoms? Lets takea look in the past at who carnage has fought.

            a.) Several eras ago we fought a good one on one fight vs. Phi.

            b.) 2 eras ago, instead of accepting the offer to join a strong alliance that was beating legacy down, we instead chose to fight abydos, zeon, jesters as well as red hand.

            c.) Last era, we fought 2 solid weeks pretty much by ourselves against legacy and db, then decided we had bigger things to worry about so proceeded to fight zeon, music, and bow.

Looking at the past 3 eras of who we have fought, it would look like we have pretty much fought every major kingdom that has been on Fant. Now if i were to use Auspice's logic in the above statement, none of these kingdoms are good kingdoms.

Seriously, after reading these posts, i wonder if you guys breath smells like poop from all this turd flying around.

 I will admit our relations are a mess this era. But no worries, we are doing no naps at all next era, just to avoid the headaches.

And sloth is right, you can only be the best when you beat all the erst, something carnage hasnt done yet, we will see next era.

Our own nap with Phi is screwed up, with both sides seen as breaking terms. Wont even bother to explain ourselves, just because we dont have to. Now then, believe it or not, there are those in Carnage who are trying their damnedst to keep the nap and peace between us (myself being one of them). Trust me, if we were going to break our nap, you would have already known about it, judging by the amount of troops on our borders with you. Am i to take your claim that we broke our nap as the official stance of Phi? Because if so, then in Phi's opinion the nap is void and we may as well consider you hostile, which i know alot of carnage guys who would love to hear that.

(why else are they so popular in the forums;D)

Google it!

This is why I never bother posting on these forums.

I never admitted breaking the nap terms. How bout you re-read what i said first. I said both sides see the other as breaking the terms. I also said you are "claiming" we broke terms. <looks on what he wrote> Nope, never said we broke the terms. Seriously, its not rocketscience here mate.

Why are our troops on your borders? Hmmm....lets see. Maybe because all of the kingdoms left to fight are behind blockers of napd kingdoms? Maybe....or can it be the very credible evidence we have firsthand of Phi planning on a napbreak themselves and attacking us...could be that too....

About the other stuff i wrote, just my opinion, just as yours is that as well, your opinion. <starts to see now what legacy has been talking about>

But I give up, no since in flaming here. If Phi feels that we broke the nap, and you are intent on escalating the situation between our 2 kingdoms with your insults, then so be it.....i am tired of trying to keep calm heads around my kingdom...

And anyone else find it ironic that I am being lectured on about honor from one of the agent smith crowd?

hmm neither can i

Arch you started it and i WASNT flaming carnage untill you flamed and made lies up about Abydos i was showing that you cant take one era as a kd being the new lgc every era is different

Really?  Already sinking to name calling?  I thought higher of you both, guess I was wrong.  I'm done here, there is no reasoning with you people.  Sadly I once considered Sloth and Virgin friends, and used to think Osi was a decent guy, I see I should have just listened to what the rest of VU was telling me, time wasted I guess.

 b.) 2 eras ago, instead of accepting the offer to join a strong alliance that was beating legacy down, we instead chose to fight abydos, zeon, jesters as well as red hand.

strong alliance? Afaik the only alliance beating down lgc was ZEON and Abydos we were the only kds in the so called alliance and unless someone was doing dip for me (if so please tell me who) you wernt invited because i know i didnt invite anyone to the Zeon/Abydos alliance.

@Lenard
If by the "rest of VU", you mean the dishonorable hypocrites in Carnage that powerplayed PHI the second they caught a glimmer of the HoH, then sure go ahead and listen to them. I don't see Legacy or DB in here clamoring to stand up for Carnage.

What a lame argument is that? Are you trying to say, 'we got more friends then you'? No you don't ...

I remember carnage as not giving up ... If I am completely honest, sure they've napped the strongest before, who hasn't? They made it up then by delivering us a pain in the ass and a hard fight in the beginning of last era and more era's ago. Carnage has proven many times before the stripes they are worthy ... So imo you are just spewing Bull. again ...

Jesus what is this on the forums? Is this some kind of hobby/treatment against boredom, all these ridiculous flames that end up on nothing then just another macho stalemate era to see who's the strongest? it's bull!!

it's LAAAME!

why people are getting caught up in using such a technical term is beyond me... used to alliances meant something but now adays it's only basically a nap so you can say that zeon and abydos were in an alliance only while you were just nap'd to the rest that makes it some how better in your eyes?  it's the same thing......you just choose to call it something else and degrade others for it.....

keep your nose out of things you are clearly misinformed about quietone. (ive highlighted words because i know you have trouble reading)

We napped PHI AFTER thats right AFTER beating lgc we didnt nap MAD at all so your clearly wrong thier, and we napped PHI so we could war carnage on one front.

We DIDNT gangbang Legacy at all. if you would remember we ALLOWED lgc to engage phi in a 1 on 1 war because we belive in fair play. we didnt kill mad because they hid behind phi. we allowed jesters to fight preds one on one not because napping jesters gave us any benifit. no because newb kingdoms deserve a chance. could we have killed them both... hell yeah we could did we ?? no we allowed them to war each other and we gave the winner a nap for thier good work.

you see unlike you i dont forget favours. i know when Abydos was new we were given a break by a large kd (yes that was lgc) which allowed us to war kingdoms that wouldnt kill us in hours, grow together and learn as a kd... You know its ok to help out some people sometimes ;)

Ms Dung Beetle wrote: "Am i to take your claim that we broke our nap as the official stance of Phi? Because if so, then in Phi's opinion the nap is void and we may as well consider you hostile, which i know alot of carnage guys who would love to hear that."

As I understand it, Architect evacuated all troops from a blocker, allowed Legacy to take the blocker and move through, and then retook it again. On the other hand, Lord Carnage has kept the gates of Westgate closed and has apparently kept troops inside. A small Legacy army has been hanging around quite some time and even prepped on Westgate, but never took it.

So it seems clear that while one or more members of Carnage have violated the terms of the NAP outright, others have held honorably to it, so it certainly is not voided. What every kd needs to keep in mind, though, is that having a good rep for consistent honoring of NAPs requires keeping discipline among your members.

And yeah, you did well last era against BoW, Zeon and Music. The fact that the first two kd's suffered severe internal problems did detract a little from your victory but that wasn't your fault and nobody knew when you started out how bad it would get. Yeah, they were high on the HoH and you certainly didn't lack for courage.

Ms Dung Beetle wrote: "Maybe....or can it be the very credible evidence we have firsthand of Phi planning on a napbreak themselves and attacking us"

Lol, your spy needs a psych evaluation, then. Only someone really insane would suggest we take on Legacy, Dark Blood, Freedom Fighter and Carnage, lol ;)

zeon and bow are not top 5 kds :P zeon is close maybe a top 6 but bow sucks ;)

the point is you CANT dominate an era when all 4 of the major kds are still alive and kicking it just isnt possible :P

actually Q i think you will find its LGC and DB who come here moaning about alliances .

you Moaned when the big kds attacked you. yes it was a bit of a gangbang but you specifically moaned at Abydos and ME even though we were warring you for a week before baccus zeon and carnage attacked you. you belived thier was an alliance when thier wasnt even a 4 way nap/

your kd then did nap every major kd to come after us. while we were busy warring 7 other kds. a bit of hypocrisy never hurts eh?

my timeline is off? well considering i know when i made the nap please tell me when you think it was made? after lgc were defeated and db were killed by PHI. we were in the middle of a kd vote on who to war next carnage or phi. Carnage attacked us and made the decision for us so we napped phi because carnage outnumberd us 2:1.

and please show how Abydos had mass alliances on a regular basis? because afaik the only Major alliance we had was with Lgc and Hearts.