LOL Ms. Quietone cant seem to stop flaming LOL
It all depends on the situation.

what Daimyo Chuck Norris is saying is partly true, Thay did attack and took over one blocker witch was a violation. But we also opend our blockers coz we had no other choice as i already explained to the Leader and wont have to explain again here

@ dalak That was a exident he Still had his Gates Open from the time that one of your KD member wanted to go true. in fact it was you. I orderd him to close it but it was already to late.

Mr. Smuff [BoW] (10/9/2007 5:16:07 PM)
take'em back and take ANY of his citys you can see. i wont kick him, too many players are leaving BoW for go to Phi next era. we need to get him back next era. but you can kick his a$$ as much as you like for the rest of the era

Thats the honor of BoW.
I couldn't hold my self to post this... sry...
But BoW - you suck!

Finally.
Thanks for understanding and kicking him...
I thought I'm gonna blow up.

wow, the number of honorable kingdoms left is so low after this era, so sad! good thing phi is back. sad to see carnage leave. where is mirror? even monks were honorable in my eyes. osi needs to get abydos back as well.

(LGC can flame those kingdoms as much as they want, but at least they were honorable)

all i can say is, FF FTW!!!!!!!

@Soccer: Yes old friend, we are indeed leaving, you see the mothership has finally sent us our boarding passes and we are off to our home planet of Rigel IV (not Rigel V, reggae loving bastards!).

nah....just kidding ya;)

We are all joining BoW next era:D

or are we???

or are we just bull*beep*ting the vu community???

Stay tuned for more!

On a serious note, BoW has had some good fighters in their bunch to be sure, but there needs to be more serious coordination (which will come over time) and probably a change in leadership?

@Xuaron: Sure man, if thats what you want to believe (looks at screenshot of nemesis blocker with closed gates and zeon army on one side and a second screen of zeon army on other side of wall with closed gates).....

Too be sure, if zeon wanted us bad enough, they would be more than happy to burn your blockers. But at least a token closing of the gates to show solidarity with your allies would have been nice:(

*An overwhelming smell comes over the whole room, everybody looks at eachother when suddenly Septim flies from the ceiling.

"Skydiving accident, wasn't spying on you from the ventalation shaft at all, nope, no way...wussup?"

Relictor ignored all my pm's and messages on msn. no idea why he attacked zeon. but at the end of the era i couldnt be bothered to kick anyone. all the vices and karac would have had to have been informed ect and internal communication has collasped over the last couple of days. and i didnt want a nother Zackira running around tearing *beep* up. but in hindsight i can see someone needed to kick him.

BoW has had a ROYALY *beep* era, which i think you all no lol. cant say im happy about it, dont think anyone is. but things can only get better.... i hope.

Well war in 48h, (47h I guess now).

hahaha, oh zackira do you worst. BoWs core is about to be over run so you 500k is really of little concern. my post wasnt flame bait, but if you chose to take offence then be my guest....

and as for you being a vice, karac didnt even want you as a vice. the only reason you got it was cus you winned and winned about it. rofl.

Err...

Dessssst & CO (merged)

Commander: Mr. Kurosaki Kingdom: Nemesis Size: Horde (Millions) Status: Moving North East

	Bayonets Owned by Prince Kenobi
	Nazzies Paradise Owned by Mr. Brannigans Law
	Brutus Owned by Mr. Diomedes
	Achooo Owned by Sir Coligynerfolka
	Tight End Owned by Duke Borazon
	Clocks Owned by Mr. Brannigans Law
	Touchdown Owned by Duke Borazon
	Potent Owned by Sir Archias
	Holy Owned by Mr. Asystole
	Balance Owned by Mr. Asystole
	Yellow Owned by Mr. Brannigans Law
	Business Time Owned by Mr. Tanc

Lmao at smuff,You can barely had  a real merge this era  never the less your people don't even know how to merge or supply troops to a merge.Who are you trying to fool?yourself?

No,I do not have any sarcasm toward any players of BoW Nor the Bow kingdom,though I already had my amusment.

hang on one sec rump, you lead some of our hords and YOU *beep*ed up with it. maybe if Heero Guy had been in command of it in the first place we might have held out for a bit. so dont come and lecture me about merges lol

and i acutally bought time to keep carnage busy,I didn't :*beep*" it up...how ungrateful you people are Ahhhh well I got my amusment like  I said.Kurc nor any Vics are active enough to acutally do somthing so please shut the *beep* up.

Wow, now the flaming is getting good, someone pass me the marshmallows!!!

On a serious note, I dont have anything personal against nemesis, no hard feelings really. Most of them have been really nice and fun to talk to. But there are several members in there that need to learn what diplomacy means and learn to think before acting....

Now then what about smuff farming? I hope he has a carnage approved license for whatever he is growing:(

zack im not a farmer. lol just shows how much you were playing attention. i have only build 5 citys this era, 1 mine 3 armourys 1 lumer and 1 food (wait that makes six lol oh well)

it also begs the question WHY did you have over 200k troops in our core while we were fighting other kingdoms?

TWO CENTS GIVING AWAY FOR FREEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

* Nemesis was probably the worst ally I ever had in any kingdom I was in... But at least they didn't attack us...
* BoW held good at Carb, but underestimated our powers... if they kept sending troops to Carb, I doubt we could have gotten in.... well maybe on Music's side
* Zakira and Rumpnissein, don't brag about yourselves too much, doesn't make you any good...
* Nemesis *REALLY* needs to understand what an ALLIANCE is, and what a CEASE FIRE is. And also everything else...
* Personally, as hard as I tried watching the lgc-nemesis battlefield, I couldn't find any good tactics from Nemesis... only brute force... and suicidal LGC stinky orcs.... pff

(This info was sponsored thanks to the Disband Carnage campaign. If you didn't receive my 2 cents, please ask Seloc, he probably stole them... )

Hi, I know this sort of sounds random, but I read up about a lot of kd's in this thread and what they did this era.

I am a ZEON player, and here is my opinion of how the era went for  each MAJOR kd and how ballsy they all are:

ZEON- We NAP'd a ton of kd's, not very ballsy. Also, a lot of our members farmed. But on a positive note, we eliminated tons of kd's and fought some good fights. Also, we had a short civil war due to Russians.

BOW- Also NAP'd a ton of kd's, and eliminated a ton of kd's. They weren't very honorable on their NAP's, harbored known cheaters, refused to boot players who broke the MAP, and possibly was the most disorganized kd this era, and was constantly plagued by civil war and betrayal. Also, they fought pretty well against Carnage.

Nemisis- Fought a good fight with LGC/DB, but they also NAP'd pretty much every kd other than LGC and DB. On a side note, I have read from Carnage members that they weren't too good on their NAP with Carnage.

Music- Again, they NAP'd a lot of kd's just like BOW and ZEON. They didn't really eliminate many kd's this era, but they were very honorable on their MAP's and didn't have any mass-betrayals.

Carnage- Fought hard against LGC/DB at the start, and only NAP'd them after they both realized that the war was non-beneficial to the both of them. But they did have just as many NAP's and MAP's and BOW, ZEON, and Music. I must say that for a kd with so many members, they were well organized, and fought pretty well.

LGC/DB- I grouped these 2 kd's together because they pretty much function as 1 kd. From what I know, they only had 1 NAP with Carnage, and that was only after a very long war with them. They definitely win my banner of respect for being relatively small in comparison to all every kd they were hostile towards, which was pretty much every kd. From what I heard, they defended very long against that full, undivided attention from the strongest kd in the game, and only really lost because they got screwed over by the admin over a wall. On a side note, I give them massive amounts of respect for having like, pretty much no NAP's, something that was rarely found this era.

PKS/FF- I also grouped these 2 kd's together because they had similar goals. They were MAP'd with Carnage, which is pretty much their defining characteristic. I also have to give both of these kd's credit for being good fighters. Also, I need to give FF credit for being so resilient. After all that FF survived you would think that at some point in the era they would have switched worlds, but they stayed alive and strong.

MAD- I didn't really hear much from this kd this era, so it's hard to have an opinion about them. They were in the heart of the Nemisis core, and I believe that they were NAP'd to Nemisis also. They did well defending against the Carnage alliance, and I think they fought against LGC/DB.

LoL, I'm guessing our P% will drop alot these last 57h =)

''and only really lost because they got screwed over by the admin over a wall.''
thats not right

Mr. Kobuskan Report 10/11/2007 9:31:19 AM

The only thing MAD did was NAP and CF everybody, except DB and LGC, because they where ordered by Nemesis to attack (do or die)

thats pure gold.

Army Upkeep:

-42,760,832

I've got to stop exploring

Ok if it was 1-2 days, then by that logic you only warred Carnage for 1-2 days also. Cause MAD was fighting DB from out of protection.

Mr. Asystole Report 10/11/2007 2:55:13 PM

Actually MAD was warring DB long before we joined in and allied them. Around that time LGC NAPed Carnage so it stayed a 2v2 war.

DB/LGC warred Carnage and PKS  immediately out of protection, and MAD a little later. In that time, NMS NAP'ed everybody, explored for a good period of time, then moved on DB's flank, meaning we were outnumbered two to one in KD figures, and a lot more in actual kd percentage (500% from NMS alone, after you had explored). At the point you started flanking DB, we NAP'ed Carnage or else we would of been overwhelmed much sooner.

Call it 2v2 if it gives you that warm feeling in your belly, or want to defend NMS' lack of fighting here. But the actual overall strength following your whoring period and intervention would make it a lot higher, and the time it took you to beat us was pretty embarrassing for a kd who had nobody else to contend with.

Swiffers, they had some honor for them to protect to begin with? I didn't realise it...

Also Asy, you've got to be doing some farming over there, few sane people I know would have that much cash in armies alone, and imagine what profit he's probably making. ;-) (Also, probably a 'bulked up' figure with all his mages, cavers, etc. being out of towns.)