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Mant 78
20:25:25 Nov 6th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Plague Between Real):

Come on Igniz, you know you're just trolling at this point. Elle is right, no rational KD would allow anyone else to plunder a person who has been inactive for 12 days. We kept him in the KD assuming he wouldn't be threatened, but with your excellent move you are getting the plunder now. At this point Hanky is free game.

As exemplified by QA shrinking to 8 members...from 15, half of QM wasn't really playing at era start. The KD took in a bunch of local untagged and it turned out half didn't want to play the game at all, but at least some people were kept in the game by QM.

Lastly, without QM there is no one on the map this era. Riven is a perennial loser, Ret had like 3 players. Elle is trying to get a consistent 2nd KD on Mantrax, something that Mantrax hasn't had for many eras now. Probably should be giving her props for her accomplishments rather than trying to tear her down.

Arm

City Info
Owner:Prophet RheaKingdom Banner
Size:86516 building(s).
Kingdom:*No Kingdom*
Race:Halfling
Gates:no gates

We have not attacked them and they have not attacked us.

We own a bit more land than this ruler.

The people of this city has not heard from it's ruler in a very long time!


20:35:21 Nov 6th 21 - Mr. Igniz:

Trolling, really. At least I am not cheating. The part of not attacking Hanky is only because he is KDless. You friends have already taken a city and been preparing on some of his cities for a while now. And probably have plundered him.



The point is not of you guys kicking him is you plundering and taking his cities rather than protecting his cities which you guys could have easily done.

This almost as bad as having a multi and then kicking him out , to only plunder and have His cities. If you guys dont even see the problem here than there is no point to this. 

I only hate this part, and dont care how many members you have and such. More members dont mean much but when you take you own KD members cities and get a boost in hoh and  resources, thats just cheating. I guess there is no fair game here. 


22:34:13 Nov 6th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Plague Between Real):

Sorry Igniz, I'm not as aware of the situation since I've been doing my own thing mostly on my side of the map.

From what I have seen the preparation on his cities only began ~12h ago, since he was only kicked 12h ago. I think the assumption was that one of his cities was already taken by you, hence you took all of those fat spoils, and now QM is just burning his cities/wrecking them.

Obviously we all want a fair and honorable experience, and I really think there has been some misunderstanding here. You also should give Elle and QM a break, as most of the players are fairly new to our community and are just trying to do their best with what they know.


01:57:30 Nov 7th 21 - Endless (Lady Endless Loop):

perennial losers? lol, we’ll keep the name change  in mind if we can convince other semi-actives or longer term inactives  in the kingdom to come back for something other then p/t amusement :). even Chade hasn’t logged in for ages now :(


btw, can Elle clarify if she is Hanky’s relative playing his old account or Merlin’s relative that is playing… she posts like Jasmina but apparently is one or the other mentioned ”new”  players above depending on who she talks to.  just curious 


02:32:58 Nov 7th 21 - SFD (Duke Salvator Fabricius Decimus):

I honestly come to the conclusion she was anonymous relative lol.


EDIT: not my place to question though TBF 


03:02:19 Nov 7th 21 - Konstant (Mr. Farmer Greg):

I mean I haven't seen Riven do anything but lose for over a year now. Not saying that you, personally are a "loser", just that Riven doesn't really do much. I would thrilled if Riven became something again to liven up Mantrax further.

Elle is Elle. She's her own person. Nothing much more to say about that really.

At the end of the day QM has done its best and this era has been much better for it. Unlike last era which lasted (what was it?) 60+ days of farming and ended with just a random arma and FW winning again.


05:07:45 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Igniz:

Sigh I give up since you guys seem not to get the point. 


05:29:14 Nov 7th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Plague Between Real):

Yea, sorry Igniz, I'm not seeing it. We've had a hell of a battle though this era, and your bounce move was inspired. Everyone in QM respected you for that quite a bit.

I'm sure next era we'll return to form with FW being the big baddie.


09:03:16 Nov 7th 21 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

Trying to make it look we are winning because Hanky going inactive? We had other 2 that had only 1 city and when they went inactive we burnt them. But of course you all are free to think whatever you feel like :-)


09:06:24 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

I guess y'all had too many inactives this era including that dwarf Death Mascot guy ;)


09:08:20 Nov 7th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Plague Between Real):

I'm curious IWBAB, you're awfully opinionated about a world you're not participating in; why is that?


09:14:35 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

Posts. Wanna reach 500 posts 🤣🤣😹🐻


09:16:09 Nov 7th 21 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

that guy was last to join us

Almost forgot about him
He actually never was in core
Said he wants to fight till FW is killed
After Konstant killed them he kinda quit
Even left the kingdom himself, was not kicked
I think stopped playing

Dont know if he wrecked cities
But he was closer to Ignis than is
Ignis little bit later owned all his cities

Using Ignis’s logic we are to conclude
That guy is Ignis multi
Thats why he was 1st on HoH for a long time
Japan Kingdom guy also built several 90k cities
Gave out to Ignis, therefore his 2nd multi



Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

I guess y'all had too many inactives this era including that dwarf Death Mascot guy ;)




09:19:59 Nov 7th 21 - Endless (Lady Endless Loop):

Japan kingdom guy was Horus, he was everyone’s jackpot this era


09:21:12 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

And Horus seems gone off again.


Which means, Ignis you should take out rest of his cities ;)


09:59:37 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Igniz:

Yes, he was my ulti great. You didnt even notice that I took native cities(dwarfs). And the Japan guy I wasnt even close to him. 


But yeah i should have a better ulti next time. I will try to learn from you guys better. Maybe creates a kingdom and kick people out. To plunder and take over. And I will defend with I was gonna wreck their cities after getting the resources.

Anyways  I rather not play here when thats you style. Mantrax shall be yours to keep.


10:21:51 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

When you take "Native Cities" you get No Plunders most cases. 


11:29:30 Nov 7th 21 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

I guess the dominance of FW is partly because of other kingdoms, always too inactive or too small so a group of highly skilled FW players manages to own the map most eras. 


Its good for the game to have more competition, so I hope QM stays together for a while. And you guys should also try recruit a bit, get stronger. Its not difficult at all, that new kingdom in Valhalla called Ursidae really messaged everyone they could see to recruit. And they will have a good team. Nothing but respect for that.


20:33:07 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Igniz:

Applause for this wonderful game play!!! Kicking inactive players and plundering them. Wonderful!!!



https://ibb.co/Z168rGD


Yes you guys should take it before I DO!!! I mean those armies wont stop me:)

https://ibb.co/vh0VzLh



Rest of kingdoms on the map, you guys need to learn this. Kick inactive player and robb them before the enemy can. And just blame it on inexperience players or something. And tell others just recruit more players , when all you need is plundering you own less active players:) 

Fw if you only did this:(

QM really nice playing. 


20:34:17 Nov 7th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

Sigh.


FW wins as they're really Pro. They wins & still respected by everyone. But they're certainly never like this.


21:52:19 Nov 7th 21 - Jarl Nero Claudius Drusus:

Im in QM and i havent seen any cheating myself. There are alot of inactive people in the kd including myself which has barely put any time in Mant, I farmed all era as Brain Freeze after i restarted because i was so inactive and got killed. 


04:36:15 Nov 8th 21 - Ryan the Archion (Mr. Archblade):

What the heck! Why is the arma still not casted yet! Why I'm still alive. Damn this imbecile QMs.


05:39:33 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

RoFL.


08:01:44 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ghostface:

Are you in a hurry? Its simple

Just release units, there is that option
We’re in no rush, there is still Retribution to kill and then march all the way back to Arch
At least 20 rl days of fighting as farming will be needed to take that city. 


08:49:55 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Whopper:

you can do all the blaming you want, but we didn't cheat. Lets just keep it friendly here. 




09:19:41 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:


Mr. Ghostface:

Are you in a hurry?


Why would he hurry?? QM is saying from 2-3 days that without Arc going down they won't Arma. Are you saying you need 3 days & still ongoing... to attack a player! 🦥🦥🦥 Btw, it was supposed to be overpowered kd 😜.

Just look at those juicy huge armies from ignis screenshots. 


10:21:08 Nov 8th 21 - Edi (Mr. Edd The Great):

Could you please post actual proof of plundering?



We have not attacked them and they have not attacked us.

This ruler owns twice as much land than we do.

The people of this city has not heard from it's ruler in a very long time!


12:04:36 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Igniz Salzburger:

Yeah and you not preparing on that city as we speak:)


12:19:43 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

I don't think "Plundering" counts as a Hostile Attack, and only Hostile Attacks counts as a valid Attack by system. You can Plunder someone who has 2x lesser land than you.


Hope that clears everything ;)


13:00:31 Nov 8th 21 - Prince Octavian:

Plundering is not hostile act?
Ice please stop spreading misinformation in the forums.
Try plundering someone who has 3 times more land than you in Valhalla
And see if they can attack you. lol


13:24:04 Nov 8th 21 - Konspyre (Mr. Misterious):

The 50% rule simply doesn't block all attacks. You can plunder and it'll be a hostile act, but you can't takeover


13:30:59 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

I wasn't sure that Plundering is hostile attack or not. Good to know.


14:28:01 Nov 8th 21 - Percy (Sir Percy The Adjutant):

For everyone’s reference: any attack option on a city, any attack on army (even scouts) in open field, and any spell cast on an enemy (success or fail) will register as a hostile attack in the system.


14:43:19 Nov 8th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

Its a matter of them trying to make us look bad I guess.
I tell Edi don't plunder and don't attack till I come to burn the cities
I don't think anyone has plundered like I asked, but there might have been a takeover of the city. Takeover would not take much resources esp if Hanky had a warehouse city somewhere. Its pretty simple to just message Hanky in Discord and ask him to confirm if anyone plundered him, to check if it was only Ignis that did that.

Edi even posts a screen shot of him not attacking
But now they are trying to find another way to bad mouth us
Saying plundering is not hostile act only because it works better for them that way?
I even considered disbanding the kingdom after all of this.
But I feel that would just hurt Mantrax more that way.


15:10:52 Nov 8th 21 - Percy (Sir Percy The Adjutant):

You guys seem to be doing fine, I wouldnt let it bother you :) Edi posting that completely clears you guys, as it shows you havent taken over, plundered, or anything on Hanky yet, which is the brunt of Igniz' accusations. 


As for context, since I'm not sure how in-the-know you are of past problems: there's small groups who still play that view those things as "valid game mechanics", and we are trying to put an end to that (hence Igniz' call out). Having been in similar situations, I dont fault him for lodging those complaints, on looks alone they seem valid, but that data point clears you. In the future, going right to those types of hard evidence will clear your name much faster than trying to verbally defend it, cause there's too many people who blur the line between truth/lie with no supporting data that words alone arent enough anymore. Need hard evidence or a given accusation tends to stand, for better or worse.


16:49:12 Nov 8th 21 - Ryan the Archion (Mr. Archblade):

enough of these garbage. end the era already.


16:59:30 Nov 8th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

Release troops so you're no longer top 6 HoH
And we cast Arma right away.


17:08:05 Nov 8th 21 - Ryan the Archion (Mr. Archblade):

Why does I'm the one to do it when your KD is the strongest? Can't really understand your logic.


17:18:18 Nov 8th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

We will end the world when we hold the top.
You're the top now.
You can wait till we train enough to take you down
We can wait :)
If you don't want to wait, release units
If not, wait for us to farm a lil bit :)

You can say we are lame for not being able to kill you
Keep in mind this is my first ever kingdom, and its my 4th era or something
Only real vet here is Konstant, all others are returning or newish players
You might talk about us being bullies, but we are a very new kingdom, not well organised and we have much to learn. Its a new experience so we're not in a rush atm. But if people want new era, just letting you know we will end it if we are in top.

We have arma ability.


17:19:03 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

I guess it's QMs shortcut ;) which is good, i support.


17:23:02 Nov 8th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

The era has been decided while back, when Riven lost their core and when Konstant basically killed Retribution. Ignis might try to make it look like his trip to our core would change anything, the era was decided long time ago, but his final push was really nice. Without that final push we would not have to kick Hanky until era was over, and it would avoid all this drama. But the Hanky situation has nothing to do with the era, it was determined while back. Arch has only 1 city left but like always he tends to train 500k Archers and bunch of Knights, so it will take a while for us to take him down. No rush, as we can test out different strategies now, try see what we can do. It will be 5-6 armies against him, so eventually someone will outfarm him, not a big deal. Ice likes to make comments without any idea about whats going on in the world.


17:54:53 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

If Ignis whatsoever decides to play next era (even though he's really pissed off), I'll join him. One guy was good try to enter QM core, 2 guys will break through QM core 😎💪💪


18:01:17 Nov 8th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

He did not break our core, he was about to get killed, but he settled a city in our core and we bounced him there. Mistake on our part, once again I repeat we are a new kingdom that has a lot to learn :) He's highly active so he was able to take out stuff, before we were able to freeze and kill him. You're welcome to join Mantrax next era so you don't write nonsense all the time but actually have some value in what you write.


18:21:23 Nov 8th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

Never mind on what i write. I'm just up for the post counts 😎😎


Will only play if Ignis plays.


20:35:31 Nov 9th 21 - Ryan the Archion (Mr. Archblade):

I'm not on top anymore. End the era already.


20:59:36 Nov 9th 21 - Mr. Ice With Babes And Butter:

Yup. Please.


22:28:30 Nov 9th 21 - Mr. Ghostface:

Casted plague lost a lot of mages?


23:34:15 Nov 9th 21 - Schepp (Doctor Schepp of The Royal Order):

If you all want some new blood on Mant, I could revive a classic: The Royal Order of Claidhmore.


I’m still a vice in the dormant kingdom.


06:52:48 Nov 10th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:

Like I said

20:59:30 Nov 8th 21 - Prophet Ellestria:
Release troops so you're no longer top 6 HoH
And we cast Arma right away.


09:27:17 Nov 10th 21 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Arc):

damn why are you so id1ot


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