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01:31:56 Mar 27th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

However different they might be, we're all entitled to our own views, perspectives, and opinions on the same topic. Bling, I respect your criticism man. I just view the situation very differently than you do.

For me, intentional feeding is very different than having to kick an inactive player and taking their city. And you're welcome to think otherwise. I ain't stopping you :)

Come back to skype now <3

01:33:37 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Nah, done with VU.

01:35:52 Mar 27th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

Alright then. Well I hope you have a great time on your cross country road trip! Have fun.

05:58:16 Mar 27th 17 - McMax (Battlemage Mcmax):

What RoC would have done?

Well that hasn't been an issue and therefore not discussed.

I know that I personally would not have taken those 2 cities as I already had 2 90K cities of my own. I might have suggested that a restarted player or one nearly killed off could have taken one of them - or left them alone - or burned them down - I don't know. The situation was not actual for me and has never been.

On Fant however, the kingdom I play for, offered me one of Freya's cities, a 40K or something on that size (it's now up on 75K). I took it as I had a very poor income after loosing some cities to Albatros.

Reading the earlier posts, I recon I have been using feeding too. But in very small scale, that couldn't tilt the game. As I want to hold my personal pig-path clean, I will personally abstain from such from now.

09:33:37 Mar 27th 17 - Lala (Mr. Tinky Winky):

lol Blingo even if you did feed on someone poor inactive's cities, you wouldn't know how to use it. All you'd still do is farm Gaia's.

10:13:15 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Bling:

At 117k naz, I've held the greatest naz army known to VU. Lala, you have no idea how easy it is for me to crush you at anytime.

10:26:24 Mar 27th 17 - Knigh (Sir Bloody Knigh):

All sounds like a lot of whining to me....

It's simple really... wen that player went inactive... we lost that players strength.... that strength was re distributed amongst the kingdom.... kingdom power therefore stayed the same...

Less whining more winning needed

10:58:19 Mar 27th 17 - The Real Josh (Mr. Equinox The Arma Caster):

20:13:15 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Bling:

At 117k naz, I've held the greatest naz army known to VU. Lala, you have no idea how easy it is for me to crush you at anytime.

Incorrect, Largest nazzie army was 500k Nazzirs... squashes your puny army!

11:15:57 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

It's simple really... wen that player went inactive... we lost that players strength.... that strength was re distributed amongst the kingdom.... kingdom power therefore stayed the same...

If you can't see the massive flaw in that logic I don't think I can help you :)

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"Tell me if you had a human 200ker owned by one of your player's who is inactive what would you do? Leave it there to be plundered as a treasure trove by invading or allied armies or have it taken by a member who required it more or could utilise it more."

or the correct option - burn and destroy.... I don't know why so many people have trouble with this....
No wait.... Greed ofc.

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"For me, intentional feeding is very different than having to kick an inactive player and taking their city."

Not really. Either way you end up taking a 200k inside your core that you didn't build, for absolutely no cost/effort.

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The only kingdoms that can be remotely proud of their efforts this era are FW and the now non-existent one man kingdom Gong show. (You know how depressing that is?)

Other than that this has been a complete failure of an era. Massive NAP fest. Kingdoms sitting around doing nothing for weeks and to top it off town swapping. It's one redeeming factor (if you can even call it that) is that no one was actively market feeding like last era...

12:01:11 Mar 27th 17 - Princess Aisha:

Well this era is pretty much over.

Congrats WSS and Mormont for the win.

Please work on arma fast.

Regarding the town swapping, hard to say what I would do in a kd I lead, 200k city is a waste to burn but I would most likely give it to late starter or person with lowest land in the kd. Or maybe burn if everyone is ok with it in the kd, because 200k city gives a huge advantage. Nobody planned the person to go inactive, what happened is what would happen in all kingdoms. While back I noticed FW was doing that teleport thing - prep small city, teleport city elsewhere, take city, army travels long way, that is also cheating. Think it was Bling that reported it.

Think I will sit back and wait for arma. Gg everyone

12:38:10 Mar 27th 17 - Osiris (Dark Lord Rahvin):

To be fair we would be winning witour stewie taking that 200k. Our other armies are just far stronger than the ones you are sending out after all that farming

13:25:56 Mar 27th 17 - Knigh (Sir Bloody Knigh):

Aisha I don't expect that kind of defeatist attitude from u. It's one guy and one army.... it can be killed and we aren't even attacking u yet....

So much complaining.... this is war... war isn't fair. Get on with the era. Just keep farming and come back with bigger armies... jeez

13:35:15 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

I have over 32k naz. so fuck your silly army.

If you think the principle of cheating should be allowed, maybe its time i take the VU server down for good.

14:13:43 Mar 27th 17 - Princess Aisha:

That I do not know Osiris, might as well be true, might not. We would never know what would happen in a fight if Freya did not go missing.

Knight its not 1 army, its 23 vs 22 people, and among those 23 there is an army that is more than 3 times stronger than anything we have, and income possibly more than double we have. So unless you guys do a series of mistakes there is no way era will end any other way.

I am more upset about losing a promising new player than all this.

14:54:48 Mar 27th 17 - Binh (Mr. Headsmasher):

there is a big difference between two player with 200k land each and one player with 400k land. in a fight between the above two, the 400k land will win if both side have the same tactical prowess. that is why feeding is usually frown upon. it turn one player almost god mode.

im not saying that stewie atm is unbeatable. but he did get insanely strong from inactive feeding which is unfair to all other players on the map.

20:45:08 Mar 27th 17 - Sir Roxbury Kira:

21:06:15 Mar 27th 17 - McMax (Battlemage Mcmax):

Now that screenshot can be misunderstood...

And if it is, that's fine with me.

23:49:26 Mar 27th 17 - Lala (Mr. Tinky Winky):

01:13:15 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Bling:

At 117k naz, I've held the greatest naz army known to VU. Lala, you have no idea how easy it is for me to crush you at anytime.

This isn't some castle on the hill you just built. It's a castle in the air.

Pic or it never happened.

23:58:08 Mar 27th 17 - Lala (Mr. Tinky Winky):

"The only kingdoms that can be remotely proud of their efforts this era are FW and the now non-existent one man kingdom Gong show. (You know how depressing that is?)"

I don't get this tbh. We had an okayish OOP war and I guess everyone else decided to play smartly around it to defeat the mighty FW to take advantage of the situation you guys were in.

And if that smartly includes getting friendly relations with each other to get ahead of you guys, I think they all deserve to be proud of their efforts too imho!

It's a strategy game after-all and diplomacies are very much a part of it. After all it's not like the entire map NAPPED to defeat you guys. It was WSS-Mormont vs Ferox-ROC vs FW.

FW not making any friends early on in the era shouldn't be the fault of other KDs. They assessed their situation and made their decisions.

09:26:25 Mar 28th 17 - Kasakasz (Mr. Bolek The Different):

hmm another inactive player? or did WSS lost 5 cities for no reason ?;p

Jonathan

City Info
Owner:	Mr. Johnny Rotten
Size:	80156 building(s).
Kingdom:	No Kingdom
Race:	Orc
Gates:	no gates

09:29:09 Mar 28th 17 - The Real Josh (Mr. Equinox The Arma Caster):

No that would be Bling...

[2:23:47 AM] BLING: first, I'm taking all. then you will bow before death, and beg it be fast. I am death, conqueror of worlds. I do not forget, I do not forgive.

Prepare your Anoose's bois and Stewie haha

11:06:07 Mar 28th 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

"And if that smartly includes getting friendly relations with each other to get ahead of you guys, I think they all deserve to be proud of their efforts too imho!"

Your a lot more generous than I am. NAP/CF/insert your own agreement is effectively saying "my kingdom sucks and I need help to fight my enemies." Hardly something to be proud of.

"NAP?"
"yep"
"cool"

is not an achievement :)

17:16:27 Mar 28th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

all these unguarded cities make me sooooo horny i wanna touch up justain and stewie at the SAME time

17:34:04 Mar 29th 17 - Mr. Bigfield Ceo:

Lacking the wherewithal to know when not to kick too many bees nests is poor strategy.

Pick fights with 30 members and get an appropriate response. Agreements are simply work arounds to kd limitations.

But I clearly suck at farming. As a hobbit I struggle to reach 2 million without combating someone.

18:35:00 Mar 29th 17 - Mr. Justanius The Elf:

you literally have been touching us up at the same time. I wonder why this cores so sleepy after getting a whooping from fw. But atleast we cleared out the bleeding blinging problem now.

00:17:01 Mar 30th 17 - Dragon Prophet Theo Targaryen:

I actually dont follow. Touching you up?

Weve bren close. We foccused on FW fron fairly early on but some of us naturally farmed. Some mich better than others. Ive got a fair sized army but I find it hard to farm past 2 million even as a halfer. Others can manage to do it. I havent been able to figure that out.

21:18:15 Apr 1st 17 - Mr. Abydos Evil:

The era seems to have slowed down to a crawl, with big stalemates. You guys casting arma anytime soon?

21:23:47 Apr 1st 17 - Dragon Prophet Theo Targaryen:

I can cast it when we need to. We thought RoC/Ferox/Monks wanted to fight?

21:23:48 Apr 1st 17 - Dragon Prophet Theo Targaryen:

I can cast it when we need to. We thought RoC/Ferox/Monks wanted to fight?

21:28:21 Apr 1st 17 - The Real Josh (Mr. Equinox The Arma Caster):

You must be a lil crazy mate, How can someone who only recently came OOP and late starter and one person still in Protection combat this:

Coolcat from Mr. Cougs
Gaia:0
Hammerthrowers:0
Ogres:0
Shamans:28066
Nazguls:15908
Peasants:0

21:29:07 Apr 1st 17 - Prince Ranginui:

Rof it .. :-)

21:33:35 Apr 1st 17 - The Real Josh (Mr. Equinox The Arma Caster):

'How can someone who only recently came OOP and late starter and one person still in protection

those 3 members would make up the whole active roster of Monks, Now i know im not the greatest ElF but RoFing that after being OOP for 24 hours, Seems a little steep.

21:38:48 Apr 1st 17 - Prince Ranginui:

oh.. well then .. there screwed unless someone outside empire rofs for you

22:01:12 Apr 1st 17 - Chilean (Mr. Chilean):

I can cast it but I want to walk around a little bit

05:17:59 Apr 6th 17 - Dragon Prophet Theo Targaryen:

That plague hit hard.

12:30:32 Apr 6th 17 - Nayoke the Kid (Sir Eros Monk Funk):

I've got to say Monks getting attacked by Mormont was pretty cheap and pointless. Not quite sure why you guys thought that was best for your KD unless you were feeling super vulnerable for somer reason or KD leadership was super weak and the pleb mob took over? If thats fair to say. Prioritize your effort and pick a decent fight. We told you we simply landed to facilitate the casting of Arma

I see this happen to green flag all the time as well and it kind of pisses me off b/c I feel like people forget about political relations formed outside of the realm of simply kicking and screaming to win. Make any situational excuse you want but this type of shit is what stops more people from even just learning how to play VU. Value peoples time please <-

16:21:52 Apr 6th 17 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Elf Bear):

You cannot expect to land mid era and not contact your much larger neighbors and survive.

I explained to you if you made us an offer it would be considered. As far as I know there is no immunity given because you want to cast Armageddon, without established relations you could help RoC or Ferox in their war. It was interesting that your kingdom only wanted to cast a single spell but some of your members have 100kers that put up a decent fight.

No relations = vulnerable to attack , it has always been that way.

17:17:41 Apr 6th 17 - The Real Josh (Archangel Avacyn Reborn):

Here we go again,

And as i explained to you, I made you an offer, i dont want to ally you, i dont want wanna CF you i dont want relations of any kind from YOU Burninglegion, But if you just leave us be we will be left in peace BUT because i didnt stroke your ego and bend the knee to the mighty Burninglegion King of Cunts and conspiracy! you attacked, Dont sugar coat it, You are a genetic stain on humanity and frankly i think your an utter twit!
As stated in my messages i dont wanna war but if you continue to attack my member(Who you started attacking before he even joined so now thats just KDless bashing)

Burninglegion asking = No relations.

18:31:58 Apr 6th 17 - Osiris (Dark Lord Rahvin):

Why did you even want arma when most of the kds are still alive and kicking. There is plenty of fighting left in this era. Just a cowards way out

18:32:45 Apr 6th 17 - The Real Josh (Peasant Fcuker):

I was a long time off arma lol

19:34:12 Apr 6th 17 - Princess Aisha:

Why were you working on arma?

I think every kingdom on the map has a level 9 magic science player, RoC even casted it for fun and wrecked the city. FW has magic level 9 as well I am sure and so does WSS. Possibly Ferox as well.

When nobody can cast it, its cool people will land to work on it, but when its not needed why bother with working on arma?

20:21:29 Apr 6th 17 - The Real Josh (Archangel Avacyn Reborn):

Because i felt like it?

Im super glad that FW and WSS have level 9 magic, But my reasoning behind landing is much easier explained as "Just landing to cast Arma", I wonder if they have the same love of "Just landed to fuck around with magic"

So when Eros of Ferox asked me to land to cast arma, Gave me a chance to brush up on them old magic skills, By saying "Just here to cast arma" it shows my non-hostile intentions.

I really hope that clears everything up for you Aisha.

21:38:53 Apr 6th 17 - Princess Aisha:

You know very well last time Collective was around, you wrote to me and I said nobody will attack you, and nobody did. I would have no issues with you staying on the map, you are small and are not a threat to large kingdoms, I would not attack you.

But fact is Mormont is NAPed to WSS, and they have the upper hand, and most likely are going to win the map, so they feel like they are the ones supposed to arma it. So they will attack us and take down the arma city when we cast arma, which they did. And we had to wreck it before they took it.

Its a war game, you have to always expect to be attacked :)
No hard feelings :)

21:50:04 Apr 6th 17 - Nayoke the Kid (God Eros Butt Slapper):

I explained to you if you made us an offer it would be considered

Just out of curiosity, what sort of offer are you talking about that would make you guys interested in not wiping us out?

05:28:42 Apr 7th 17 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Elf Bear):

I appreciate you explaining that Aisha,

We could have casted Arma long ago but are not interested in it until less kingdoms are around.

Eros a CF would have been discussed by our council. No bending of the knee required as Josh suggests just a established Treaty... its quite simple really.

Treaty= Peace

No Treaty = War

11:48:50 Apr 7th 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

You don't have enough of them already?

15:04:38 Apr 7th 17 - Chilean (Mr. Chilean):

Last i checked Mormont had 1. Am I missing something?

15:49:55 Apr 7th 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

nope

16:51:30 Apr 7th 17 - Lady Leila:

So any idea when is arma expected?

17:45:32 Apr 7th 17 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Elf Bear):

Well, RoC / Ferox / FW are still kicking

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