And if all else fails turn them into shopping malls!

Starta is seeing a lot of new banners and the loss of a few as well, no longer is the landscape swarming with red, purple and rapper bearing flags. Although there is still a lot of red/orange, well played Rebirth, well played.

Yours still wanting a jumping castle'y, Lilly Telvanus II

yeah we are loosing ground pretty fast but hey we had a good run but before the era ends can i have berlin back? LOL

lol, lets spice it up:P

You (6/15/2009 9:11:37 PM)
lol, have you guys been farming all era just to get revange:P?
Mr. Gladiatorul [MAD] (6/16/2009 1:24:29 AM)
I only showed you a face to face war - last era it was not a war, but donations from our side. You though that playing Orc is the recipe to success just because you have been succesful last era by backstabing us - now you see; I killed 5-6 of your HoH armies (mainly orcs) with a single army; The game is still interesting - but if you lose you have no excuse Overcome - you are full armies of 28 people defending and we are not more than 10 people attacking. Good luck
You (6/16/2009 9:37:48 AM)
hahaahah xD now you do the same as last era xD u have no idea whats going on here:P its ridicules to hear you say we are "28 people defending" and "backstabbing"? we have never backstabbed anyone! and orc!? xD what a funk are you talking about? i have played orc all eras except for 2 :P and orc sucks this era, everyone knows that:P and 5-6 HOH armies, name them now (Y) cause we have only had 2 HOH armies up there;) and now, for the "28 people defending" we have 9 players that havent been on for 8 days. 1 player started yesterday and is totally *beep*. and we gat 3 that can only logg on 1-2 times a day. sum that up and you have 9-10 players fighting Fate, LD, Crazy, RVL and MAD. KD's sounds fair to you? and Aby told us you have been farming all era, and now we can see why:P pathetic xD
Mr. Gladiatorul [MAD] (6/16/2009 9:39:40 AM)
I see you have behaviour problems - you learn how to talk and then I may anwer you again. Die nicely.
You (6/16/2009 9:40:34 AM)
hahahaaha xD do you have ANY idea how ridiculus you sound xD?

<3 Revenge Rules<3<3<3
Good luck rebirth, might need it :P

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10:52:19 Jun 16th 09

"and now, for the "28 people defending" we have 9 players that havent been on for 8 days. 1 player started yesterday and is totally *beep*. and we gat 3 that can only logg on 1-2 times a day. sum that up and you have 9-10 players fighting Fate, LD, Crazy, RVL and MAD. KD's"

well I think you started the wars whit LD   and crazy  you could  have had the same start as we by farming at era (we had some oop wars to )  start but you statrted wars  .. now that we attacked you  you are wynning around that you have to many wars .  i ques its  mostly your fold so deal whit it and  fight  honorable  stop flaming around .

like  you said its revenge for  last era :) )  and the war is not over yet ! :)  we  dindt expect any  war from you guys last era aether so its the same situation .. .

Let's just calls this.... that we have plans to invade Fantasia too. you are just in our way. ;)

and besides, we always farm even though its a war game. :))

woops get rid of the 1 in front of rebirth lol

farming still gains you 0% respect though, where-as fighting the whole era gains you much more.

Just stating, no offense.

now here is where the debate just turns into something else: when Ryan and accuse me for "justification" and making excuses. where did i do that?

im telling it like it is. you guys farmed (both admitted), we warred (both admitted).

i saying that we didnt expect an attack from MAD and battle them for a lower world. eh is that an excuse? then i think you had me wrong. it was a way for me to let you guys now where we made our misstake.

why is it that we cant just talk, instead of making everything into flames and downtalk. it all get so irrasjonell.

and people like me and Lew believe in war, cause we like to think thats the way of acheeving honer, and farming having the oposite effect (i think its about the balance in game, but i wont say more and go offtopic). i dont talk down towards those who farm, and i expect others to dont talk down about those who are fighting:P


"we had no real  oponents just like rebirth had nojne  last era ."
Way to go (Y) you just said that the GOTF/BOW allience aint a real oponent. and Veggie/Rebirth vs MAD/YUM apprently sucks to:P


and one last thing Ryan: you say that i make excuses? take a look at the thread when us and Veggie beated MAD and YUM last era. if you stood on my side, you would be laughing your ass off xD

well, that just made no sence Ryan. cause you just ignored what i said:P

the positions has changed yes, but we are not making excuses like you did last era:)
and no, it wasnt only YUM:P you will see that Gladiator was probly the most active in the complaining and making excuses=)

and that is the reason i couldnt help message him:P thats why i made the "sounds fair to you?" comment. as he complained it was not a fair fight last era^^

and then i ended the message with what i regret:  "and Aby told us you have been farming all era, and now we can see why:P pathetic xD"
that was just born out of frustration, cause if you read it you will see that he lied

"last era it was not a war, but donations from our side." - exacuration, in my point of view it was a lie. (as we fought the war over 2-3 weeks)

"You though that playing Orc is the recipe to success just because you have been succesful last era by backstabing us - now you see; I killed 5-6 of your HoH armies (mainly orcs) with a single army;" - Lie: like i said in the message, i have played orc almost every era since i started. and backstabbing? what da funk does he mean by that? we have never had relations with MAD. And he choose not to comment on my message back. but im hell sure that he cant name 5-6 HOH armies from Rebirth, cause that many hasnt been up there. i count max 4 big armies that he has killed. (and he killed one of them with another army)

"The game is still interesting - but if you lose you have no excuse Overcome - you are full armies of 28 people defending and we are not more than 10 people attacking." - Lie lie and lie. i dont have an excuse, but i have facts that prove we are not 28 people fighting their 10 (total Rebirth players: 20, 4 fighting on Fantasia, 1 player just started and 2 that are almost never online and 1 inactive for 18 days. total: 11 players fighting MAD/LD and Crazy), and what does he mean by full armies? we have lost a huge amount of troops in the wars we have been in, and we didnt have time to farm at all.

i feel like writing this with big letters: THIS IS NOT EXCUSES, THIS IS ANSWARS TO GLADIATORS LIES.

that feelt good^^

meaning you gat no comeback^^ and peace was not the word i was expecting^^

i suggest you dont read what i write then;D
try writing Norwegian and u would know how i feel:P

@Aloysius: well you said it yourself:P you have farmed, while we have fighted all era, meaning our income sucks, and your doesnt.  Also, how many KD's are you fighting? :P

@ i guess we just share different opinions there. i dont have a problem with admitting misstakes, and not forseeing you guys come was just that. By the time we realised you guys were going to attack (i think approx 6-7 days ago) we didnt have time or capeablillity to sett up defenses.

before that, we didnt consider you guys a treath. a misstake*
Veggies is now Dynamite (correct me if im misstaking) and are located both in Starta and the world south of us.

and yes, i can sympathise your location on the map

When a single player kills you 6 HoH armies bellonging to several different players - hard to justify 'no ready for war' message.

ah - wait - actually you have started the war with us - one of your members took Strawbery's armory; so how can you say your were not ready; you probably though it would be piece of cake to kill our armies (thinking of how many HoH armies you own);

I assume a good leader chose a good timing when to start a war, isn't it; and you suggesting us - MAD surprised you.

You also mentioned Abydos let you know about our invasion - that probably happend at the start of the era, as at that time we (wrongly) comunicated your intention to Lewath (is this Hounorable, Lew - we were a NAP partner). Again, as a good leader you should have chosen your fights with care. If you ignored MAD - now is time to die.

8 players out of Rebirth KD - and guess who's taking the lion's share: Dwarf cities; the king of course;

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I'm a good farmer, well maybe not even good... better than average.

But I do not ask for it to be respected.

Once again Glad, you choose to speak of for 1 of the arguments form your own message. why dont you mention the rest instead of bragging about killing HOH armies and farming all era?

"Glad never lies - he kills instead: here are the 5 HoH armies (og actually they are 6) I was talking about. Overcome - ark the owners of ex-armies - they will confirm these armies were in HoH; I may have a bad memory - don't remember you killing last era any HoH army besides mine (a Dwarf magician) - I think this is explanatory enough."

well thats a backfire:P we killed all your armies last era, that means you really didnt have any good ones besides the one your talking about:P
i really dont care about you bragging about killing 6 HOH armies, but i dont believe you. cause when i checked the HOH before you guys attacked, i couldnt see more then 3 HOH armies up there. you fough Middle, Poly and Necro. Icecream and Crazy arrived late, but you havent killed their armies.

but ill give you this, you took down Middle who was our best player so far this era. (all though he went part time inactive cause of exams) it would have been fun to see if you could have defeated him if he had all armies together;)

and whats up with laughing about my choise as an Orc? first of all im pretty sure the updates came after i had choosen race, atleast i didnt see the updates before i choose. and second i am loyal to orc=)

"When a single player kills you 6 HoH armies bellonging to several different players - hard to justify 'no ready for war' message."
ehhh yeeeah, your a God, Glad o.O good job farming all era, must have been hard to come up with a good army o.O

"ah - wait - actually you have started the war with us - one of your members took Strawbery's armory; so how can you say your were not ready; you probably though it would be piece of cake to kill our armies (thinking of how many HoH armies you own);"

you didnt pay much attention did u:P? i sendt a message along time ago to your leader about discussing a NAP. i never got an answar. then i sendt messages to three of your vices and gat 1 answar from Ryan. he said that there leader was busy. and then i sendt a message back to him that we want to discuss relations, if we dont get a response in 24 hours, i take it we are at war. and i didnt get a replay to that message:P
btw. has it ever occured to you that the HOH might not he the ultimate guide to show the power of an army:P? i had the top HOH army, in front of Zond in the beginning of the era, and he had 96% on my hammers. hint hint (its incorrect)

"I assume a good leader chose a good timing when to start a war, isn't it; and you suggesting us - MAD surprised you."
Its here it gets irrelevant. as you are just trying to insult me. and like i said, we didnt think MAD would attack us before 6-7 days before you launched the attack. we discussed it and hoped it was not likely, cause we had our hands tied.

"You also mentioned Abydos let you know about our invasion - that probably happend at the start of the era, as at that time we (wrongly) comunicated your intention to Lewath (is this Hounorable, Lew - we were a NAP partner). Again, as a good leader you should have chosen your fights with care. If you ignored MAD - now is time to die."
Abydos didnt let us know of any invations, they simply said that you guys was just farming. and again with the "good leader" xD are you a genius from kindergarden:P? i have never claimed to be a great leder, and thats for others to decide. i simply just do my best.

i did choose my fights with care, but taking LD took much longer the we expected. i guess me and my vices was not adjusted to the new updates, where we cant have merges. breaking down a KD takes much longer now.

"8 players out of Rebirth KD - and guess who's taking the lion's share: Dwarf cities; the king of course;
I guess we would all be happy to double our buildings with no fight at this time in the era.
That's a good boost for your KD - I hope we won't see you crying anymore in these forums."

lol, it was prob about 20 cites. we are 17 active people at the moment, and first of all its not the biggest mine. second of all it was closest to my army^^ and thirdly this was the only city i have taken! xD

and i would appriciat it if you talked more mature when we are having this convercations. we are certently not crying. i was provoked by your lies, and wanted to be met with a little understanding =)

who would:P

im terrible at writing short and simple messages:S

urgh ovecome, do you format to give me a headache...

much better overcome ^_^

and glad is alright if you get past the ego ;)

I did teach him everything he knows... so you'd hope he was alright ;)

i guess your right. i  know he is extremly active and have alot of skills. but yeah, i am having a hard time getting past the ego:P
hopefully i will be able to get along with him to, as i want to have a friendly relation to everyone (as person) =)

I am not going to add anything here Overcome - enough has been said, I think. I am looking forward to see how you handle the defeat this era; I think we, MAD, handled it well last era (we only claimed it wasn't a fair fight for us).
Good luck.