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Valhalla 40
21:48:37 May 6th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

that too...


10:16:02 May 8th 16 - Erica (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):

This made me sad...


ratio is 6:25 for mines pls~ \o/
Duke Chade The Macho Thing (5/2/2016 9:29:14 PM)GOODBAD
:D lol im just trying to survive and will not attack anymore :) only trying to keep my current score in the history :) I will appreciate if you wont attack.

05:06:19 - 208 walls in Connection got destroyed by magic!

05:06:12 - 216 walls in Connection got destroyed by magic!

05:06:10 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing attempted to cast a spell upon us.

05:05:59 - 247 walls in Connection got destroyed by magic!

05:05:57 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing attempted to cast a spell upon us.


11:15:46 May 8th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

My mages were not happy with their wages and were on strike....literally, unfortunately ;(


18:05:00 May 8th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

LOSS

I'm terribly sorry Mr. Bigfield The Farmer. But we have lost the battle.

We killed or injured a total of 986 enemy troops.

chance=93
dice=96.21001


How the heck???


18:07:35 May 8th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

the dice mate


18:11:38 May 8th 16 - Woody (Mr. Lovechild):

Dice needs to be lower than chance


18:57:52 May 8th 16 - Erica (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):

All I ever wanted was to farm all era ( T-T)


13:02:11
More Spam lead by Mr. Longer Rulername attacked and took over Connection. They also took 202655 gold, 12008004 stone, 0 tree, 0 food and 33 slaves from us! And 222052 of the peasants in the city where taken as slaves! We lost 0 Swordsmen, 497 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 23405 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters,  210062 peasants and 1 dog in the battle.


19:15:44 May 8th 16 - Tyrin (Mr. Thuper Thenthitive):

Sounds like you wouldve been better off in H&S with their peaceful ways :)


Your John Wick story line doesnt work though since you didnt build that city. Trying to act like it was your home and you were just farming is like white settlers taking the natives lands and then calling them aggressors. 

Reminded me of this
http://imgur.com/nou9Mbr


19:32:05 May 8th 16 - Erica (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):

I could have taken over everything but beating up people when they're already down isn't my style, more so if they already pleaded to stop. I kinda just retired after taking a couple of cities when I could have taken more.


Who knows? maybe it wasn't his house to start with. He did take that other dog as if it was his. :d

Also, i'm not clicking that link. :(
last I did, it opened a gay porn site courtesy of Shyers. ( ._.)


19:50:28 May 8th 16 - Tyrin (Mr. Thuper Thenthitive):

Nothing about what he said to you looked like pleading to me, especially the part where he said


 "...of course i will understand if you attack :) you have the full right to do so :)"

 in a later conversation.


 But I know I sure didnt ask for any mercy. If I wanted it I wouldve voted in favor of the arma you so hilariously canceled.


19:53:51 May 8th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

Dear Lady K,

When you are saying that people "pleaded to be left alone" if you are referring to my message, then I will respectfully disagree.

I only said that "I will appreciate" if you won't attack me. As I have stated in my private message to you, my kingdom and my friends within it are more important to me. Besides "appreciating" is not offical relations. That message was about a week old before I cast any magic on you and within this week we, KH have not received any official communication from your leaders.

Usually if I am to agree a personal relation with someone out of my kingdom, I will always follow up requesting confirmation.

And I told you in a follow up conversation (several days later) that KH have decided to play against all odds and continue the war.

Regards

Chade


19:58:08 May 8th 16 - Mr. Ivanhoe The Great:

Lol...


20:06:37 May 8th 16 - Erica (Lady Erica The Damned):

I never casted arma tho, I don't even have enough magic level to do so o3o

If what you meant was when Alex attacked the arma city then I have no clue if that was a ploy. but he did have a really strong AM army that I have no chance of defeating at the moment and most of the strong armies have already left for H&S then If I remember correctly. 



He did asked not to be further attacked, if you didn't notice.

And this was already after they attacked the city, of course i'd have every right to retaliate. I had every right to attack even before that. :/
 "...of course i will understand if you attack :) you have the full right to do so :)"


20:25:23 May 8th 16 - Tyrin (Mr. Thuper Thenthitive):

I meant your kd as a whole cancelling arma :P I was unaware Alex managed it, I had thought you guys had Kath do it on purpose as part of giving him refuge. That makes it quite less funny.


Skipping the splitting hairs about how his initial statement isnt really "asking" (I understand you discerning that from the context that was there, but it certainly wasnt "pleading") youre still in no position to play the victim here. What did you expect us to do, play "2d middle earth town building simulator" while you and H&S hammer it out? Informal mercy makes no sense to me

 And if I killed you dog, its only cause his doghouse was built on a sacred burial ground you forced from our people. 


20:28:08 May 8th 16 - Sir Moon Shine:

Alex did takeover the arma city in the last 16 ticks from ending


20:44:28 May 8th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

As we reached a mutual agreement with Lady K in private, we will now crack the peace pipe and get high together!


20:53:17 May 8th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

No one is able to cast Arma.


Can we get a vote on it, or must we war a leaderless kingdom until the end of an Era?


20:55:19 May 8th 16 - Erica (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):

Don't sweat it lol, I guess this was my fault after all. 


It's already been 3 times just this era when I was requested not to attack and granted the "unofficial" request. Only to end up in a situation similar to this.

I'm never one to rely on these "official" arrangements since they sound like traditional irl politicians. Which we all know is nasty.  

Actually there was a time when Valhalla is the closest you get to "Sim Middle Earth." the actual reason why I played in Valhalla. I just recently played after quite a long time and im still trying to catch on the ropes since I don't know what have changed since I stopped playing so I thought i'd play somewhere where there is sunshine and rainbows. 

BTW, whos Kath? o_o

I kinda remembered someone casting arma for a few ticks then I tried searching for the arma city but I couldn't, much less the Rulername. :d


21:07:19 May 8th 16 - Tyrin (Mr. Longer Rulername):

@ Bigfield, of course I would rather you keep warring until there is a clear winner, but I think if enough people message Zeta asking for it to end he will cast it. im not certain he would in this case though with so much war going on.

@ Erica RL politics do suck, but in my experience in this game people are extremely honorable about the diplo. Its also my first era back after a long (5 year) absence (also trying to shake off rust, didnt realize I had so much but glad I got most of it outta my system before we hit Fant) and there has been in 2 major disputes concerning diplo that Ive seen. Not trying to make any accusations, but the common denominator in both was your now absent kd leader ><



21:24:24 May 8th 16 - Mr. Ivanhoe The Great:

"BTW, whos Kath? o_o"

He should be Sesugh as much as i know.


21:24:57 May 8th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

yeah what Ivan said

@Ivan - pls change your nickname mate....Im not used to having another Ivan in VU. Ive got to be the only one!!!!


21:33:03 May 8th 16 - Mr. Ivanhoe The Great:

Lol... My nickname will be Ivanho, don't worry. :P Though my name is Ivan. And right now i'm not taking a nickname as i'm playing in Valhalla with a secret name. :D Let this era finish.


I gave -h-o-e after Ivan, still not feeling comfortable! come on man. :)


21:53:59 May 8th 16 - Erica (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):

You mean this assylum? he went too craycray so I had to... process him.


I was the only one near him and he asked to be left alone to farm for a decent era end score. And I'm usually like "sure why not?"

Then Sesugh attacked a newbie ruler who's under my protection.

@Tyrin Yeah I get that :d, It's just that I grew up in a neighborhood where I have a good chance to get a bullet in my head for not being true to my words, it's been a bad habit of mine to trust people's words at least once, sometimes twice if they gave me a good movie recommendation. :D


22:27:05 May 8th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

22:33:03 May 8th 16 - Mr. Ivanhoe The Great:

Lol... My nickname will be Ivanho, don't worry. :P Though my name is Ivan. And right now i'm not taking a nickname as i'm playing in Valhalla with a secret name. :D Let this era finish.


I gave -h-o-e after Ivan, still not feeling comfortable! come on man. :)

Report

My RL name is Ivan too :D LOL


22:29:26 May 8th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

Imma take the walk of shame on this one

@Tyrin Yeah I get that :d, It's just that I grew up in a neighborhood where I have a good chance to get a bullet in my head for not being true to my words, it's been a bad habit of mine to trust people's words at least once, sometimes twice if they gave me a good movie recommendation. :D




21:35:27 May 11th 16 - Stelius (Baron Gandalug):

Well Vivi has forsaken The Titans. I am assuming leadership going forward. Seeing as he is still the actual leader of the KD after this era eventually ends I will be creating a new KD that hopefully the rest of the current KD will be joining while we let The Titans die in a fiery pit from whence it will never return.


21:52:47 May 11th 16 - Prince Chade:

I welcome your decision mate, it is very dishonrable to a captain to abandon ship.

It reminds of that italian geezer , the capt of costa concordia



22:11:37 May 11th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

I will not make a decision without responses from my board of Trustees. I have received an envoy from The Titans requesting a cease of hostilities.

As I said, I will await responses. We were the defenders in this incident. I am of the opinion that if a new Kingdom is to form, it should be formed now, rather than later. If players were to no longer fly the flag of The Titans, we would be less inclined to pursue conflict. For Outposts to fly the flag of the Titans on our Horizon, however, is to denote a target.

Again, we do not have a final decision yet, but we would rather know which cities are loyal to the corrupt mob boss and which rulers are of level minds. 

A final decision will be coming soon. 


22:11:42 May 11th 16 - Stelius (Baron Gandalug):

I was reluctant to do so since Vivi pretty much taught me how to play the game but due to questionable decision making and then his eventual abandonment when those decisions blew up in his face  it had to be done.


22:13:42 May 11th 16 - Stelius (Baron Gandalug):

Mr Bigfield, I will table this with the rest of the KD


22:17:15 May 11th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

Understood.

Bigfield, CEO of Hammer and Shield


23:04:01 May 11th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

The Following is the draft proposal being discussed. This is not yet a proposal, but this is giving you an idea of what our thoughts are:

We would like some fight to continue this era. We are a peaceful KD, but this era is approaching it's terminus. We play the role of merchants, as such, we want to establish areas of peace. We understand that you were unwilling participants in this war. As such, we are thinking the following, but this is subject to change when a formal proposal is submitted:

1) Within 48 hours, anyone flying the Banner of The Titans will be considered a target to be terminated. Kingdom-less players, HnS, and the New Kingdom (NK) are free to attack these cities.

2) The NK and Kingdomless agree to forfeit all cities and claims located in the South West Quadrant, and recognize this as the territory of the Hammer and Shield Company.

3) The NK agree to forfeit any cities and claims located West of Blackwing Lair, and defenses will be vacated. HnS agrees to not settle any cities on the North West quadrant East of Blackwing Lair, or North of Blackwing Lair. HnS agrees to not pursue any conflicts on the North West Quadrant unless provoked. 

4) HnS agrees to not settle any cities on the North East quadrant, or pursue any conflicts therin unless provoked.  

5) HnS and NK will consider conflicts conducted on the South East quadrant to be fair game for the purposes of securing land and profits. 


In short:
Top Left (Split, Peaceful), Top Right (HnS stays out),
Bottom Left (NK stays out), Bottom Right (Free for all)

6) Kingdoms will work towards the ability to cast Armageddon without Zeta's help. 


23:10:38 May 11th 16 - Ms. Jasmina:

You guys have someone able to cast arma right?


23:20:21 May 11th 16 - Dragon Prophet Theophilus of Ferakin:

Lol No where close, but we want to see some war now that people decided to be stupid and bring it to us. 

We assume you guys do. 


23:20:31 May 11th 16 - Stelius (Baron Gandalug):

Our mage is currently level 8 and needs 100mil to get to 9. I have directed him to farm until he can cast it.


00:51:27 May 12th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

Alright, our terms are pretty much what is posted above.

HnS concedes all territorial claims North and East of Blackwing Lair. We will not settle any cities in those areas. The cities of Boo, Cackle, and Booo will be reclaimed by Mr. Spoook or liberated to him. The cities near Fortitude will be Forfeited to Mr. Lovechild.
She base will remain under it's owners control. HnS concedes all territorial claims on the North East Quadrant. We will not settle any cities or send any armies there unless provoked by the new Kingdom.

Any player still flying under the banner of The Titans will be a fair target for HnS, including cities, even if mentioned above, if they are still a member of The Titans by 12:01 am on Sunday of this weekend, Eastern Standard Time.

We will remain neutral in the fight against KoH. We will consider any conflict between any new Kingdom and HnS on the South Eastern quadrant to be fair sport, and we will keep our conflict limited there. We will not attack your mage working towards armageddon if he stays out of the way. 

We are also willing to accept to our company any players seeking an economic and farming era next era. 

These are our terms. The offer has been made. We will begin moving to lock down our claimed territory (South West Quadrant, part of Northwest Quadrant) and ask that you remove forces from those cities immediately. If we do not hear any additional comments or an acceptance from your Kingdom, the war will continue until it's conclusion. 

-Bigfield, CEO Hammer and Shield


00:59:44 May 12th 16 - Stelius (Baron Gandalug):

Accepted, the new kingdom with be known as From the Ashes


03:34:41 May 12th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

Excellent.

We look forward to solidifying our properties:

Lizard King, Giggity, lost, Petoria, Iifa Tree, Infinity Fob, Daredevil Door, Cult of the Wor, Flesh Crucible, Gate Security, Pang Tong House, Lovechild Grave, Belegond, Booo, Boo, and Cackle.

The 'Warzone' shall be considered essentially the are of Gemcutters and to the South, as well as Iron fort and Gold, and East of Steel Fort, Water Fort, and Woolloomooloo East. (Those three cities are outside of the Warzone.

As a reminder, we are at peace with KoH currently. HnS will not operate in any territory North and East of Blackwing Lair, which includes the entirety of the lands of the North East quadrant and 2/3 of the North West quadrant. 

We encourage you to pursue Armegeddon as soon as possible. We discourage the cancellation of Armegeddon. We do not intend to attack Kingdomless players, even in the war zone, unless provoked. We will attack all cities flying the flags of The Titans, regardless of territory.

Now that the terms are abundantly clear, we wish a happy end of the Era to each of you :)

-Bigfield the Farmer, CEO of Hammer and Shield


04:01:54 May 12th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

Tis indeed, a great Era for we, the owners of Hammer and Shield!
With Bigfield the Farmer, whose dwarves worked much harder, so stone and high gold we could yield.
And what ye, of Booob, for he is no noob, but has amassed great wealth and great beasts!
And even Vice Spoook, whose cities they took, but neverthe less, is victorious at our feast!
A toast to Lovechild, who lay dormant for a while, but arose to become a great force,
And a toast to Arkan, the dwarf with no plan, who was able to show Mr. Valhalla the worse.
And Alrisaio, what can we say, o? But that we wish we had seen, of him, more,
And Blackwood, our recruit, where is his loot? Does he have a city? Or does he sleep, do I hear a snore?

But a great era was had, an Era for We, an Era for Hammer and Shield. The trees they were felled, the stone cutters yelled, and the gold and food, our workers did yield.

Vallhalla had peace, we all had a feast, and we set our sights on a brawl. Which rulers will Raise, which rulers will tarry, and which, from there perch, would fall?


08:01:31 May 12th 16 - Duke Chade The Macho Thing:

OK now that we have decided the peace stuff we can end the era :) Well done everybody, it was a trully fun era :)

@ZeTa - can you please cast arma, because as you can see, we don't have a player capable of doing so at the moment. Thank you


13:28:39 May 13th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

It appears that only 3 members have joined from the Ashes. 

To be clear, all cities flying the flag of The Titans by Sunday at 12:01 will be targeted for acquisition by Hammer and Shield Company. 


16:28:28 May 13th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

It is clear that The Titans have players that refuse to stand down.


Any Titan that is moving armies towards cities claimed or owned by Hammer and Shield will be assumed to be hostile, making hostile actions. We will answer in kind.

We are allowing players a benefit of the doubt that they perhaps havent logges on to see the terms of needing to vacate and join From The Ashes.

There will be no such benefit given to those moving armies anew under the banner of The Titans.

You have been warned.


01:25:02 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong:

"Lizard King, Giggity, lost, Petoria, Iifa Tree, Infinity Fob, Daredevil Door, Cult of the Wor, Flesh Crucible, Gate Security, Pang Tong House, Lovechild Grave, Belegond, Booo, Boo, and Cackle."


Not "your" properties, but since you are attacking ahead of the midnight before Sunday. You sir, lack the honor of your own words. This caused most distrust in your organization. You've lowered yourself down to mere Duke Sesugh, which is pretty low even for your standards. If you cannot fathom your own egotistical ideals because you simply cannot maintain your own hold of terms you cannot uphold within your own rules. Simply, you lack the basis of being an honourable man among men/women and shall be stripped away with all distinguishes you thought you have.

Pretty much, The Titans who do remain, shall have the honor to win or die where we hold. Which most in this realm does not have it seems now.

- Pang Tong


01:40:48 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

As if. Large armies:

Orcs, Fleet, and a host of others, still flying under The Titans, move towards our cities. Our amnesty was to those leaving The Titans. If you want peace, leave the Titans.

Mr. Robopants has left the Titans, and his cities are not going to be taken until 12:01 on Sunday Morning. The same is still, and has been the offer, to any remaining member of The Titans. 

Leave, or die. 

The agreed terms (can a Kingdom truly agree without a leader?):

Not a Single city you listed is within the agreed realm. We have not taken any cities within the territory that The Titans conceeded. Members of the Titans have provoked us, within our own territory, and we are responding. 

Let us not forget, it was The Titans that started this conflict. We were willing to cease if 1) Members left the Flag of those that attacked us. 2) Ruler left cities of war footing near our cities.

We went above and beyond, as the victors in the war by 1) Conceding any claims in what was the historic core of the Old Kingdom, 2) ignored expansion in a vast chunk of the map to allow a new Kingdom to be able to grow and develop, and 3) Allowed an area of the map for good sportsman like conduct to continue, because no one likes being killed off.

Last I checked, it isn't often that the winner in a conflict makes concessions. If that is 'dishonorable', then that is on you.

HnS concedes all territorial claims North and East of Blackwing Lair. We will not settle any cities in those areas. The cities of Boo, Cackle, and Booo will be reclaimed by Mr. Spoook or liberated to him. The cities near Fortitude will be Forfeited to Mr. Lovechild.
She base will remain under it's owners control. HnS concedes all territorial claims on the North East Quadrant. We will not settle any cities or send any armies there unless provoked by the new Kingdom.



02:06:19 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

What I don't grasp is that we gave an out for players to have fun through the era without being wiped out. 

Players interested in peace would 1) Log in. 2) See the deal. 3) Leave The Titans. 4) Prepare for a fun free for all in the lower right quadrant and rebuild in the upper right quadrant.

What has instead happened is players 1) Log in. 2) Have no intent of leaving, or making peace. 3) Move large armies towards our cities. Frozen our armies 4) Insult us and call us dishonorable, and saying that we have attacked.

Who did we attack? Where? What Cities? What Armies? We said we would be moving armies up. We declared which cities we would be moving armies toward. We declared very clearly that those with no intent to make peace and have fun would not have peace. 

Am I missing something here?


04:01:18 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong:

Mr. Robopants has left the Titans, and his cities are not going to be taken until 12:01 on Sunday Morning. The same is still, and has been the offer, to any remaining member of The Titans. 


- yes, but your member is still prepping (attacking) before 12:01 AM Sunday. You offer people short term amnesty, but you're alliance is still "attacking" per se. Prepping is still an attack. So essentially your alliance has already broken your own agreements.


Let us not forget, it was The Titans that started this conflict. We were willing to cease if 1) Members left the Flag of those that attacked us. 2) Ruler left cities of war footing near our cities.

We went above and beyond, as the victors in the war by 1) Conceding any claims in what was the historic core of the Old Kingdom, 2) ignored expansion in a vast chunk of the map to allow a new Kingdom to be able to grow and develop, and 3) Allowed an area of the map for good sportsman like conduct to continue, because no one likes being killed off.

- Let's not forget, we already had a member in your "core" and joined us. Plus Vivi aka Ajax made deals and broken them. For sure we follow under the banner. But nonetheless, leadership still follows with vices, and yet you have yet to message myself or any other vices upon what's going on. Sure you used a "loophole" in bypassing our inactive/abandoned leader, you have yet to speak to one of us about it. Yet you have the audacity to make terms openly and then make no representations on our side to agree or disagree, so you chose for us. What sort of agreement is that?

HnS concedes all territorial claims North and East of Blackwing Lair. We will not settle any cities in those areas. The cities of Boo, Cackle, and Booo will be reclaimed by Mr. Spoook or liberated to him. The cities near Fortitude will be Forfeited to Mr. Lovechild.
She base will remain under it's owners control. HnS concedes all territorial claims on the North East Quadrant. We will not settle any cities or send any armies there unless provoked by the new Kingdom.

- See you ask that you reclaim those cities even though it is under the banner of The Titans, yet you want them back and then eliminate the remaining people with the banner of the Titans. You're contradicting peace and war. If you want them back, you have to offer us something in return. Demands to take them back and then continue to eliminate us is just bad business. No cities are to be forfeited because you want them and yet eliminate us on Sunday. See, if you want them, you have to offer us full peace and you can war with the other alliance(s) in the vicinity. Otherwise your "negotiations" are just full of holes and blunders.


What I don't grasp is that we gave an out for players to have fun through the era without being wiped out. 

Players interested in peace would 1) Log in. 2) See the deal. 3) Leave The Titans. 4) Prepare for a fun free for all in the lower right quadrant and rebuild in the upper right quadrant.

What has instead happened is players 1) Log in. 2) Have no intent of leaving, or making peace. 3) Move large armies towards our cities. Frozen our armies 4) Insult us and call us dishonorable, and saying that we have attacked.

- I dont mind logging in, winning or losing, part of the game, but when this situation comes in and you want this and that and still want to war the remaining of The Titans because it is under your own authority and choosing and yet to give us direct info and proper negotiations to the remaining active vices/leadership so that we can make proper discussions for the remainder of us. We also wanted proper time to then give you a proper reply. Everything you are doing is a bunch of bullshit. I'm calling you out on your inactivity to provide quality demands and returns and what you are talking about because all this contradicts everything you are talking about.

This is a dishonorable act on so many levels that leads to you. 1) Our ex-members flips sides to join yours (unofficial dishonorable act), 2) then potentially use them to fight us, that is another dishonorable act among you. 3) You're members are prepping/attacking even though they left or time hasn't been official yet, another dishonor that your alliance is going through. You have yet receive the reprimands of your member(s) actions upon us, which we required equal payment for this flop/one-sided affair. 4) Openly calling out your demands on here, we would preferred that you have sent it to us vice(s) directly thanks. 5) Demands of cities under The Titans and then still want to eliminate us afterwards.


Honestly, you have provided nothing but aggravating among the many players on Valhalla, created drama in here needlessly possibly could have been avoided if you just contacted us directly instead of making a show in here. This is what happens to be called out on your bullshit terms and deal and what not.


04:01:51 May 14th 16 - Mr. Perilous:

We brought down the Titan's and it appears certain people are salty over this fact. We were a start up Kingdom and did exceptionally well. Look forward to more successful ventures for HNS and its consultants. 


-Perilous


04:24:10 May 14th 16 - Mr. Pang Tong:

We brought down the Titan's and it appears certain people are salty over this fact. We were a start up Kingdom and did exceptionally well. Look forward to more successful ventures for HNS and its consultants. 


-Perilous




 - Sure you brought us down, but it is not what i am talking about. I applaud your excellence in staying for so long. But this specific situation is where our leader is inactive for 2 full weeks. There was an open threat and demands on the boards here that specifically demanded the dissolve of The Titans, the retaking of The Titans and area cities taken/built. As well then re-start the The Titans vs HnS after retaking your lost cities. Plus our ex-members joins you and then wants to continue to war the remainder of us. Basically you gained dishonoured members and now want to war by using them against us. This makes it really bad looking upon HnS for doing this. If you start the war again, you made everyone under your banner a dishonored fight. We all know what honor and dishonor is about in this game, i am for one know significant about it. I have upheld my own and we have warred based on Ajax's abuse on breaking agreements. But since your leader has made this agreement on here, basically you suckered into this stupid bullshit scenario. You could have just continue to wipe us out entirely or ceasefired with new agreements. But right now, ex-members joins you, your alliance demands cities from us only to take us out a couple days later. Honestly, if you cannot foresee how this makes any sense from this for you and your alliance. Question yourself and others within this. Was this a good move or not? Because now you made this and now shit hits the fan and honour and dishonor comes into play about certain members leaving to make new alliances and seek amnesty and your leader demanding cities from us (The remaining of The Titans), only to declare war on us in two days plus accepting our old members into your ranks only to have them wipe us out for you. Honestly, your alliance have made so many mistakes right now.

04:58:28 May 14th 16 - Erica (Lady Kamunagi of Chains):

@Pang Tong

First of all, I wouldn't even attack an enemy unless provoked much less an ex-kingdom mate.

Second, I'm preparing defense against Bidi lest he pursues to attack me again as I see him amassing troops in his city near my north-east territory, hence the movements of my armies.

Third, I'm not stupid enough to trust the remaining Titans that they will not be hostile without confirmation that they wont, nevertheless I still give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for the first punch to come from them until I attack. And you call me dishonourable? 

I have been planning to join H&S since I lost all respect to Vivi after that "you should be playing the sims instead comment"  but he's been MIA shortly after that and thought it unfair to be jumping ships when you'd be warring 2 strong kingdoms so I decided to single handedly take on KoH(with some exemptions) even tho I knew full well that it'd be a losing battle for me without the slightest magic support. But after one of the Titan's vices decided to disband, I deemed it not necessary any longer to be delaying KoH as it'd be more or less a fair fight between the recovering members of KoH and the restructured kingdom of Titans aka From the Ashes.

From what universe did you get the impression that i'm attacking the remainder titans you butt!? 

Basically, you're just being a paranoid whackjob.



05:24:44 May 14th 16 - Mr. Bigfield The Farmer:

This is what I got from someone in your KD. No one else from the Kingdom reached out for peace. Not a single one. We conducted this in the open forum here. Not a single other player from The Titans expressed a desire for peace. 


Baron Gandalug (5/11/2016 2:59:42 PM)GOODBAD
Hello Mr Bigfield,

I know we are in no position to negotiate currently but I am hopeful that you are feeling generous. Our leader Vivi (and his friend Valhalla) have forsaken our KD. We attacked your KD on his orders. Seeing as he is gone, arma was cancelled, and KoH is returning to power I would like to propose a CF or NAP with your KD and return to the peaceful terms we knew before Vivi lost his mind.

I have assumed the leadership role of The Titans and have notified the KD that I will be requesting peace.

I understand if you would like to continue war with us but thought the very least I could do was gauge your interest in a peace agreement.

Regards,
Baron Gandalug
Acting Leader of The Titans
You (5/11/2016 4:03:24 PM)
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