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After LS Killed Landry and I at the start of the era, I restarted and landed inside your core.  Oxydon messaged me and asked if I wanted to be friendly since I landed there... I said, well I suppose so... built/trained... Landry attacked the KDless Lazy, and got beaten back, about a week after that I killed lazy, helped beat back Aurora's army when asked from Oxydon to help out.  After I did this, I asked for solidifed relations and we agreed to a MAP, didn't specify terms but asked us to help out with Green Tag as well...  However, Landry had tried to get pang tong to open the gates, he said very clearly no I will not open these gates so Landry replied with open them or I'll take the city.  We also messaged Oxydon who didn't reply within more than 30 hours, and Pang Tong still had not opened the gates so he took the city.  Afterwards, Pang Tong decided it would be worth it to attack Landry's army and killed a large number of troops from his.  How many troops Pang Tong had in training is beyond me, but there were only 20k stationed in the city at the time, and it didn't seem that many were coming through, but I wouldn't know as I never prepared an attack on the city.  In retaliation I sent out my troops around the core and took basically every city.  Extreme I suppose, oh well.

Man, I want to rage quit so bad!!!

Okay, let ME apologize for the fact that my KD decided it'd be a good idea to close the gates on three army groups that were attempting to help us. I guess I'll take the blame because obviously Pang Tong isn't going to do it even though it was clearly his fault. We lost him and Angel and at this point it's pretty pointless to attempt to fight back.

What i see wrong here is the fact that you gave orders to pass at any cost even taking over. The moment he absolutely denied to open gates you shoulda kicked and dealt with him. What I see here is bad leadership.

What does that prove zond?

Ah I see. Didnt angel of death do the same thing?

So all NAPs and CFs and MAPs end if person does not write in 24 hours?
That is awesome.

Well, like I've said Endo we waited more than 24 hours for the gates to be opened before taking the city while messaging the leader as well with no response in that time.

23:06:46 Feb 23rd 14 - Mr. Oxydon IV:

Okay, let ME apologize for the fact that my KD decided it'd be a good idea to close the gates on three army groups that were attempting to help us. I guess I'll take the blame because obviously Pang Tong isn't going to do it even though it was clearly his fault. We lost him and Angel and at this point it's pretty pointless to attempt to fight back.

Plus in addition, you had pretty much 75% of your troops still inside the "shared core". By even attacking anyone and they retaliated, you would use every excuse to take the entire core. It is a dirty tactic and everyone knows it to be true. Honourable play, and that kingdom has none.

Pang Tong, I stated we have an MAP IN THE KINGDOM FORUMS.

He asked you to open the gates, I TOLD YOU to open the gates. The Green Tag armies were not coming for Shu Base, they were there, but they were attacking Denko. It would have taken at max two ticks for the army to pass and for you to close the gates. I've done nothing wrong. I said that we have an MAP with them and that should let you know in itself (especially when I told you to open the gates because they're trying to help) that you should OPEN THE GATES. 

I agree with Pang Tong Here.

1.  I took out most of the kingdom with Swordsman that I trained after Pang Tong attacked Landry's army.

You (2/15/2014 2:13:21 PM)
so hows things going? you winnin your war?
Mr. Oxydon V (2/15/2014 3:00:28 PM)
Nooooot really, it's hard to tell right now. But when H20 hits us from the East, we're going to die unless we don't get support.
You (2/15/2014 3:31:25 PM)
Well once I finish off Lazy here, I'll help out... slaughtered his 6k nazgul last night :)
Mr. Oxydon V (2/15/2014 4:53:17 PM)
Nice! :) Hurry up lol or maybe you guys could negotiate a CF, because in the end, even if you beat Lazy, H20 will run us all through
You (2/17/2014 12:28:40 PM)
Tomorrow in the east I will have 150k knights, 150k MU and for casting I have over 450k MU level * magic and over *million income the dwarf army is 144k axeman I can handle that NP, then I can probably help with the Orc as well. Landry is getting his cities back from Lazy so he too will be able to fight well, are there stronger armies than those near? I only see the halfling army which is relatively weak.

You (2/17/2014 10:13:15 PM)
Would you care to make more solidified relations for the end era?
Mr. Oxydon V (2/17/2014 10:18:21 PM)
I'd like to just keep a MAP for the rest of the era. We seem to work well together against H20.
You (2/17/2014 10:47:43 PM)
That's fine, better than wondering :p

You (2/18/2014 7:04:22 PM)
No need to be alarmed I beat her army and when Ieft the city to finish her off she BTd to the 90k lol
Mr. Oxydon V (2/18/2014 7:05:55 PM)
Hahahah that's good, thank you much, that relieves a lot of stress
Mr. Oxydon V (2/19/2014 6:48:37 PM)
Can you come down and help with Green Tag now? We need support
You (2/19/2014 7:30:22 PM)
sure I'll see what I can do

so yeah, as you can see we were offering all the help we could.  It was not a pre-planned thing to take over Durins Folk

02:02:12 Feb 25th 14 - Polydeuces (Konig Poly Loses):

1.  I took out most of the kingdom with Swordsman that I trained after Pang Tong attacked Landry's army.

- Okay, whatever, but i am pretty sure that they were knights.

2.  Pang Tong, let me get this straight... you work for over 24 hours?  Because, from the time he asked you to open the gates to the time he attacked and took over your city was 28 hours.

- Yeah, it is called work, then sleep and then immediately having to work again. For sure i am not like every other person that has a 4-8 hour shift work with a 12 hour intermission before another shift with access to a computer/iphone. If you like to know what i do for a living, i work as a cook that has crazy whacked out hours. So basically i could have not been on during that time, sure an "excuse", but it is a pretty damn good one.

3.  I call BS that you had that much in training, you had 20k troops in the city, and it barely rose at all in the time Landry was preparing the attack.

- Let's do some math: 20k axers = 2500 per Axer in total is 50 million gold, another 20k axers training is another 50 million gold = 100 million gold total. Well Axers do considered 32 ticks and with 20k being trained, probably only like a few hundred comes out per tick. But nonetheless, i probably had no MUs in the city, so casting CW from your own army would have been sufficient enough magic to destroy the walls and pass through without myself losing troops/gold spent for impatience.

4.  To deny access for a MAP ally to pass your city is nonsense, I don't know who in their right mind would do this unless the said armies you are speaking of were preparing on your city thus not allowing you to re-close them...

- I can deny, but you guys had other access points to go to as well. I denied because their were armies in the vicinity, once i chased them further down, i would have opened the gates because it was then little bit "safer" to pass through, but i was at work when it happened when you guys were impatient. Well because your LoS is so sh*t and cannot see anything beyond what you see only in the "shared core". I would not let you begin to understand the position i was in against Green Tag. But to open your minds, i had Mr. Disgusted with his nazgul army and Mr. Kev whom was a Human encroaching on a member at his blocker, i chased them away with my Hoh army and then you showed up. But as i sent my big army to use as a deterrent as the position my massive army was, i could have opened the gates so the MAP partner can safely pass through while maintaining an offensive stance. But then again, i was away at work for this moment in time and i was unable to open the gates, but at least some patience again, i would have opened the gates when i was capable of being online. If you were so bored, you could have sent down more troops and merge them up so that you were capable of amassing a stronger army for the fight with Green Tag. But obviously this could not be a sufficient compromise to this and had to attack me instead.

5.  If you were so discontented with losing the city, ask for remuneration not revenge as revenge can be terrible.

- Like you had hundreds of millions on you just for the sake of it. But because i was "mad", using my own judgment, i essentially paid back by Landry losing the cost of his army similar to my own. So we were even at this point. But as it twisted whatever agreement you had with Oxydon, you used my aggression as a means to take the entire core. But taking my city is considered "not an act of aggression". I am pretty sure it was. And i had the right to be pissed as you were pissed about me annihilating Landry's army.

Oh definitely, Oxydon had messaged you many times, but did he offer us anything about the information, none at all. Surely i would have loved to open my gates for you, but i was busy with RL work and other armies in the vicinity. But when i am online and the area is safe, i would have opened it to you. If you Poly had magic in your army, Landry could have waited until you have came down and then you could have CW the city and then move forward. But as of yet again, Landry too impatient, ignorant, he attacked me without using all means of options that were available to you guys and this was an act of aggression that your alliance dealt to me and Durins Folk. Your actions were the initial aggressor, my retaliation was a just act, and you twisting that notion just to not feel the backlash by the community, well it is obviously now seen. You had options, and attacking me was a last option, and you well decided to take it very early and conveniently.

Oxydon proof this wasn't three days, yet again failed.

Mr. Landry

Shu Base'

21st Feb (14:10)

This is where i denied, he wasn't even prepping on me at this point. I was moving my army in position. Then when i gave clearance and capable of opening the gates while maintain a stance, i would have happily have done so. I am sure any person in my position would have done the same strategic thing. But once again, attacking an ally because i wasn't on the computer to open the gates. I find that the saddest excuse.

Mr. Landry (2/22/2014 11:04:11 AM)
My army will pass through here to go to the battle as per order of your leader even if I have to take it.

Mr. Oxydon V (2/22/2014 6:01:21 PM)

I was at work and this wasn't three days given. I am sure you may have mentioned about promising to your fellow MAP ally within the three day period, but i didn't get that message(s) in that time slot, i was only given less than two days.

You (2/22/2014 8:30:17 PM) 18:44:50 - Move lead by Mr. Landry attacked and took over Shu Base. They also took 1772133 gold, 0 stone, 0 tree, 0 food and 2994 slaves from us! And 9183 of the peasants in the city where taken as slaves! We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 29412 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 9183 peasants in the battle.

Oh, it looks like he took it 2 1/2 hours after while i am still at work and haven't given a full whatever hours to respond back to you oh former leader of Durins Folk.

To debunk i have never said to you that i would not close my gates for Polyandrydeuces:

Mr. Oxydon V (2/22/2014 6:01:21 PM)
Open these gates. Landry is trying to help us with Green Tag
You (2/22/2014 8:21:55 PM)
i had work, he took my city which had troops in it, i am going to retaliate
You (2/22/2014 8:30:17 PM)
18:44:50 - Move lead by Mr. Landry attacked and took over Shu Base. They also took 1772133 gold, 0 stone, 0 tree, 0 food and 2994 slaves from us! And 9183 of the peasants in the city where taken as slaves! We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 29412 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 9183 peasants in the battle.
Mr. Oxydon V (2/22/2014 9:26:02 PM)
Let it go, seriously, do you see those armies? They are going for Green Tag. Take your city back later
You (2/22/2014 9:48:45 PM)
Seriously, i was at work, i could have opened the city after i was done work, or at least CW the city, but no, had to take over the city, i had troops training in that city. I lost 100 million gold because of ignorance. I am not letting go of it.

- Anything before that this is what you gave me:

Mr. Oxydon V (2/21/2014 1:23:38 AM)
Can you move this to take out Totally Disgusted in the field?

- I never seen me message you any details i would not allow our ally through to you. I had told Landry their were troops in the vicinity.

You (2/21/2014 4:09:47 PM) sorry, i cannot open this blocker because i have a few armies in the vicinity that i cannot allow them to pass through.

- In this case, Green Tag was at my doorstep already, i got them to retreat, but then i had work. Then Polyandrydeuces attacked me because their LoS sucks. Maybe if they had built a city behind, maybe they could have seen the battlefield instead of assumptions of falsified claims.

- Oxydon, i don't really care about my army, i know i am going to die eventually, by taking away all my economy, my troops cannot outlast. I will die eventually, i at least resisted. But it was a fun era at least, i cannot say it was the same for you Oxydon, but whatever. I know you like to suck up to Poly, so at least someone would favour you for something, just to let your ego just a little bit up so you can feel at ease.

- I doubt Angel of Death really wants some action on the forums, drama is probably not for hi, i applaud him for that, he chose the best survival, i am sure you could have done the same Oxydon or anyone for that matter. It is essentially me and Polyandrydeuces. Angel of Death is a great Elf player, and i am sure he could outplay me because of magic and AM count. But whatever, just another era.

Lol, no I did not know we had the ability to take their core.  I was expecting a lot more resistance.  As well, I only used half of my main army plus another batch of troops I'd trained when this had happened.

You're right, it changes nothing.. discussion finished.

@Endo, I think it's a lot funnier how SFD's still all over the HoH.

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These guys from Green tag are such assholes, check out this horrible communication we have with them.

Mr. Kev (2/26/2014 8:33:08 AM)
Would you mind leaving the gates open so that my KD can fight Poly/LDK/NoKD in the north? Would be much appreciated. ~Kev
You (2/26/2014 9:22:16 AM)
Bro, it has no gates. Lol.
Mr. Kev (2/26/2014 9:29:37 AM)
ehh that works then, just trying to get *beep* figured out without stepping on toes so to speak
You (2/26/2014 9:32:07 AM)
Lol, chill.

@Edgardo,

I don't want to hear that from a KD whose KD pic comes directly from the first page of google images. Obviously we put a lot of thought into our Green Tag, (I didn't make it, I joined afterwards, but nvm.)

You know, I'm normally a very pacifistic person. That's why I usually avoid The Native People. But I've been prepping for 30 ticks AND HE STILL WON'T OPEN THE GATES. Screw that pacifism, if you don't do what I want within 30 ticks, regardless of whether or not you're human, YOU DIE.

THANK YOU.



I didn't mean that btw. <3 H2O2

Arma!!! Someone cast it!

All races except Orc needed nerf. I obviously should have won the era.