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even when we rape ur queen and torture her in front of u???  :P:P

Then I will just have to come and decapitate you :P

Unlike me, Dreadlord is not a loser :|

We dont need to manage our players, Beothuk is like a hive - our Queen Bee Jill only has to think out objectives then we're eagerly running in that direction to accomplish the task.

there's 3 active kds on fant 

fail troll

A couple of little birds are telling me that Legacy will have 40 players next era, 20 of them in a new kingdom (to be called Dark Blood).

Its their way of supposedly dealing with the whole imaginary "2 active kingdoms ganging up against the 3rd active kingdom" issue.

Care to comment, Legacy? :D

Its imaginary because there are 5 active kingdoms on Fantasia. 6, if you count Feckers. There is no such thing as "only" 3 active kingdoms on Fantasia. Invincibility spell casted on MAD and Relentless?

The activity of kingdoms is based on fortunes of war.

I didn't see anyone calling MAD and Relentless inactive kingdoms 2 eras ago. Or 3 eras ago. And wasn't MAD the 2nd biggest power on the map about 3 eras ago and before? Haven't both kingdoms been Fantasia mainstays for a very long time?

Heck, wasn't Immortals considered an "inactive" kingdom last era? What if their inactivity had "extended" to this era as well?

Also, it is not all sunshine and fair weather when one NAPS a kingdom. In NAPping a kingdom, there is the implicit acceptance that we may lose positions, spoils and crowns to our NAP partner. Folks contesting to win Fantasia want as little "competition" as possible to their fight for the top spots - that's what encourages kingdoms to have as little relations as possible and to war as much as possible in order to eliminate various contestants.

NAPping is a double-edged sword.

*chuckle*

And you wonder why everyone loves to stick Legacy one in the eye :D

Yes, MAD and Relentless have their issues. But to switch from calling Beothuk a mass-napper last era to NAPping the "only other active kingdom in Fantasia" this era is nothing short of hilarious.

Legacy and their excuses.

We're not. That's why we made the NAP only after we found out that Immortals were west of us, Legacy and Relentless were north of us, and MAD were south of us ^_^

"We're not"

I think Legacy needs to take responsibility for what has happened this era.Think about it guys.

If they hadn't landed armouries in our territory, this war might never have started. 
Millions of innocent women and children might still be alive today. We could have all lived in peace and harmony, started our own little United Nations, talked through our problems without any of this bloodshed occurring. 

Legacy started this war and we intend to finish it.

Well here I come to comment.

I'm not prepared to read that wall of text. But what I will sat TBL is you shouldn't really come here, refer to a new KD being created, ask specifically for LGC comments on it, then cry foul when we do.

Fantasian politics are stagnant due to Beo's fear of LGC right now. TBL will whip his members into a frenzy, claim we're super active, super informative, super elitist. Basically we're  super, in order to justify taking us on each era on uneven ground. Thats the crux of it.

At least with LGC, you can't predict our politics. One era we might NAP MAD and fight Relent, or vice versa. We'll invariably fight Immortals and Beo too. Other eras we might fight both MAD and Relent in addition to Beo/Immo. Ultimately, we vary our play. We don't create NAPs before the era begins like BEO and we will vary our allies era to era.

Conversley, BEO doesn't alternate its politics. Sometimes it will NAP MAD/Relent, like last era. Other times it will just recruit to 30. But it will always NAP Immortals in either of these scenarios, safe in the knowledge that after LGC/BEO they're the third strongest. You won't ever see Immortals and LGC vs a 30 man BEO and MAD or Relent, because that's how stagnant politics are on Fant. BEO must NAP Immortals every era, safe in the knowledge that there is no equivalent for LGC to fight along side. Case in point: 5-6 MAD or 8-10 Relent playera landing this era.

So there's your answer as to why a new KD, made up of members from LGC, Immortals, etc has been created. To alter the dynamics of Fant politics. But judging by your replies so far, you dont seem to approve if a new a KD.

Now, I suspect its time for you to go into overdrive and start justifying to your members the need for 40 players and NAPs with Blings, Relent and MAD again next era. Oh, and not to forget the set-in-stone, pre era determined Immortals NAP. Anything to ensure you don't have to engage us with on equal ground. :P

I do recall LGC always saying there was no chance for relations of any kind from Immortals, immortals had tried a few times in the past and always shot down without discussion... 

I love the paradox of Beo whipping their members into a frenzy and justifying their politics by saying LGC is the best KD, have the best members, best co-ordination, etc at the start of the era, only to say midway through and towards the end that we're shit, Beo is the best, so on, so on. Every time. Without fail. :p


You can't have it both ways, guys. We're either the best and require you to mass recruit/mass NAP on alternating eras, or we're the worst and you shouldn't need to mass NAP/recruit, after all.


I forgot about Fred btw. Don't tell me you're STILL NAPed to him in the corner? You actually decided to NAP 1 guy OOP because he would draw forces away from other fronts? LOL!

Normally after 3 defeats in a row a KD will implode.

I doubt there ever was an era when people did not NAP even when there are 3 large kingdoms around. This can never work due to a simple reason; if two kingdoms fight and let third farm for a while, that third kingdom will be able to run over the other two kingdoms.
And also a common thing in VU is to ask for cease fire as soon as two kingdoms attack you, you ask from one of them to stop war so they can concentrate on the other attacker. You will rarely see three kingdoms in all out war everyone for themselves.
It all depends on the location in the map. So many flaws in this game that its not even funny any more, admin tends to drop many kingdoms in the same place and leave half of the map empty. I still dont know why that is. But I always encourage leaders to have 1 person walk to the completely opposite side of the starting point, because that is where most will start.
As you could see this era, we all started on the east side, most large kingdoms, and as era went on, we could notice that west is almost empty. It would be cool if large kingdom leaders agree before start that one kingdom takes north east, the other north west, third south east, fourt south west, and have people travel there are start of the era. Of admin could change starting points and make them not so much random, when there are large kingdoms on the map, they should be placed in distant areas.

@Blood

The only problem I see in this is people, they rather win a boring era, than lose but go down with a huge fight and lots of fun. Am I under the wrong impression that we play this to have fun?

And just so you know, last era there were no relations between Beo and the immortals. We just never met, and we rebuilt inside blings core.

Almost OOP again, which one of you feckers is going to beat the snot out of me this time :p

Sigh. I had to at least reply to Swifty before I go to sleep.

Every time I beat Legacy, the same shitty excuses come up again and again.

Standard Legacy Defeat Excuse #1:

You guys mass-NAPped - aka there's no way you could have beaten us if you had less NAPS (whatever that means).

Standard Legacy Defeat Excuse #2:

You guys mass-membered - aka there's no way you could have beaten us if you had exactly the same amount of members as us or less.

Standard Legacy Defeat Excuse #3 (not used this era):

You guys are nothing but farmers - aka if only you guys had an OOP war, there's no way you could have beaten us then.

And now, Swifty has come up with the latest Highly Improvised Legacy Defeat Excuse #4:

You guys NAPped the only "other" active kingdom on Fantasia - aka you only beat us because your sole NAP made you so overpowered against us that we were guaranteed to lose. Our NAP was with a no good kingdom, so it wasn't fair to us.

Every victory scored by a kingdom against Legacy has to have an asterisk next to it. Regardless of the actual facts and situation on the ground. There is never any: "Good-play chaps. You beat us pretty much fair and square. See you next era, it will be our turn to beat you next, but still, you were worthy opponents."

There is never any asterisk when it comes to a Legacy victory. A Legacy victory is simply because they are "leet". The other kingdoms are "less" or "nublars".

In playing this game, ones eyes are opened to the clear difference between playing against men and against boys. The men (generally older / more matured folks like the Carnage / Fate peeps, Elements lads, and Binh Binh) will give kudos and credit where they are due - they have class. The boys.... will come up with some stupid excuse to justify why their defeat wasn't a fair one and put an asterisk to everything.

Previously, I faced this crap from a certain bunch of people from the Dark Blood gang (Quiet One, Raistlin, Cobra, Oya, Arzun, Wilberforce, etc.). Now I face this crap from a certain bunch of people from the Legacy gang (Swifty, Wilberforce, Warlock, etc.). Is it any wonder that Dark Blood was a spin off from Legacy?

Folks like them and me are like oil and water. We will never get along together. I always just go: Whatever the eff you say, old chap. Whatever the eff you say.

And I repeat: thank god this is just a game. God knows how miserable life would be if I had to seek justification for real life progress from Swifty-type people. There will be too much "if-onlys" floating around.