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Starta 27
20:43:37 Jan 13th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

I want in.


20:47:47 Jan 13th 14 - Sir Sorra:

This is a good idea in theory, and sounds like fun, but its been done before. What ends up happening in practice is friends end up secretly teaming up on everyone else, and those others are easily eaten up, now without the protection of at least some KD. Then, when only friends are left, a nasty web of NAP/MAP develop and the era ends up as a long farming spree. 


Also, the entire world will be haflers and no magic will be developed. It becomes a pure melee fest of a single race, which reduces strategy to that of 'pump or out pump'

Its been done in the past/before on other worlds. Not once, but multiple times. No KD eras, and what ended up happening was a long, unnecessarily protracted era where once the easy fodder is eaten up everyone becomes so timid and decides to play defensive. Not to mention it requires near 24/7 activity if you to survive.

So skill and tactics are not even on display. Just how many bonus turns you can afford coupled with how little of a RL you have.  



This is a fun Idea, but a special world would have to be created for it with special rules/circumstances in place by Zeta. Otherwise, it just ends up as a long nasty mess. Very similar to the idea of boats. 


21:08:25 Jan 13th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

@Sorra, now I understand why you are cowering under your KD against me and the 6-man KD of BDSM.


21:23:14 Jan 13th 14 - Sir Sorra:

Cowering because I have participated in no KD eras in the past, multiple times seen it unfold the same way everytime and understand the game Mechanics? I don't know what to say? Good for you? 


00:11:20 Jan 14th 14 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Jellybean):

Well, It'd be willing to do this as a Dwarf.. so not just Haflings :P though, I do understand as a Dwarf I'll probs be pwned. 


00:21:15 Jan 14th 14 - Grandmaster Of Imperia (Mr. Spot Lock Destroy):

HEAR ME ROAR , ORC TIME 


08:31:48 Jan 17th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

Why does KH/KHS Armies near me are running away? Why I am the one chasing them around instead the one defending my core? Isn't your numbers aren't good enough?


08:52:10 Jan 17th 14 - SFD (Duke Sfd):

only army other than yours worthy of the time on the map is darkmoors :P


09:44:04 Jan 17th 14 - Mr. Halfamage:

@binh I'm in, and not as a halter! Lol


18:20:43 Jan 23rd 14 - Ms. Jasmine:

As era comes to an end, lets discuss awards for the era :)

Kingdom victory:
Kingdom Hearts kingdoms (as victory was never in question, even thought the numbers were on KH side, they controlled the era well, took more time then they should have, but KH kingdoms were victorious)
 
Players awards:

Best overall player:
Pascal of Companion Knights

Best out of protection player:
Evans of BDSM

Best late era player:
Von Darkmoor of Kingdom Hearts

Best farmer:
Jasmine of Kingdom Hearts Starta

Best magic user:
Corvus Corax of Kingdom Hearts (I think?)


Please discuss and give your own awards?


22:31:47 Jan 23rd 14 - Mr. Evansss:

Kingdom victory: 
Companion Knights for somehow holding in a tiny little corner
 
Players awards:

Best overall player:
Arthur Dent, the only KH player to stop me early in the era and give KH the time needed to get their act together

Best out of protection player:
Evans of BDSM  << I'm not gonna turn this down :P

Best late era player:
Not Vonn, his army was not that amazing he had too long to train it, i managed 80k of his 120k in three days with other threats, therefore I'd give this to paschal for his knight rampage

Best farmer:
Bob Dylan, for having a huge army army yet being utterly inactive.

Best magic user:
Woden using his magic to save KH early in the era, again giving other players time to train


01:07:57 Jan 24th 14 - SFD (Lord Search For Destruction):

Kingdom victory: 
Companion Knights for somehow holding in a tiny little corner
 

best overall player:
obv has to go to paschel, didnt do much at the start but mainly due to the fact he bounced some armies and put a little fear in the bellies of his enemies for a while ;)

Best farmer:
has to go to darkmoor personally, he lost a bit of land from evans after oop yet still managed to work back up and bring out a beast army

worst player:
has to go to arthur, the fck destroyed my 90k even when i was already dead!!!!
only a sht player does that :P

worst Kingdom:
Has to go the KHS, was close between KH but KHS just stole it imo GJ Guys *Overly dramatic High Five* "P

Best magic user:
No idea my army got froze but no idea who did it :?

Best city:
Obv has to Be Revange owned by yours truely ;) bounced a fair few armies ;) had 99% on sorra's amazeball army and that was after bouncing over 17k naz i think :)
(FYI, all armies except the orc were halfer :P)


07:46:25 Jan 24th 14 - Arthur Dent (Mr. Arthur Dent II):

Aww I love you too SFD ;)  


And thanks Evansss, it was a great OOP.  Unfortunately the rest of the era wasn't quite as good for me.  Good fight!  I'd give best kingdom to BDSM.  They did a lot with their terrible positioning and few members.


12:06:30 Jan 24th 14 - Ms. Leila II:

Companion Knights are good, but hardly can claim the best kingdom this era. They were not pressured at all this era, we did not attack them till late era, I have been on the east part of the map. Basically only people that attacked Companion Knights are Omega, Reid and Sorra (and I attacked later with half my army.

But he did good killing them, even thought I think they went inactive when they reached him, I do not know if they died this long ago, but these people were against Companion Knights

Reidmonger11Mr.HumanStar.16 days
Omega6Mr.DwarfStar.16 days

Now I do not know if they died 16 days ago by Companion Knights, but that is who was putting pressure on them. If it was Pascal that killed them both 16 days ago, then thumbs up for that! So 16 days nobody went there exept me and Sorra, Sorra got killed by that Troll and I was bounced by Human army.

They do have lots of battles, but that is mostly in the same area, they take cities, we come and retake, they take again and so on. Then we got new player Polyduces, he went inactive in middle of war and his cities got taken, which gave your kingdom more battles and more kills.

You did not leave your corner of the map at all, just spread a bit, as soon as we rush at you, you move to your corner. And the post you made on forums "why are you running away from me?" I do not know if you are acting like you do not know gameplay or what, but I hope you do not mean farmed up halfer beats farmed up human with 200k city. I know you are better than that.

You did well, holding so long but without real pressure. However with the lack of real good player this era I do think you did best in the world overall best player should be Pascal that is for sure.

Best farmer:
How can it be Von Darkmoor when he is actually doing some fighting and not really farming, and how can it be Bob Dylan when he was never on top of HoH and Aisha is there claiming she is not farming and she keeps all her armies in cities and does nothing all era, and claiming she is not going for era win ccc :P

Worst player
Probably Kath for talking crap a lot on forums and then get beat up by me in his corner of the map, and then saying he did goood, and that I suprised him or what ever he said :)

Worst Kingdoms:
KH and KHS for allowing Learner to get killed by kingdoms that should not stand a chance against our numbers.

Thumbs up for BDSM for having a nice kingdom, holding for a long time, even thought in the end you did not stand a chance, you gave up only in the very end. Our numbers were just too big. Companion Knights, also good job, you did best you could to be honest.


Worst idea:
Thinking people will be realistic and give objective view of the era, when all they do is simply troll and write lame posts, that have nothing objective about them. If you think someone did well, congratulate them.


12:13:42 Jan 24th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

Best farmer:
How can it be Von Darkmoor when he is actually doing some fighting and not really farming, and how can it be Bob Dylan when he was never on top of HoH and Aisha is there claiming she is not farming and she keeps all her armies in cities and does nothing all era, and claiming she is not going for era win ccc :P

i didnt say longest farmer i said Best, he was the best.
he farmed his cities and came out with the best army on the map after getting most his land destroyed.
thats the best farmer in my boks :P


12:19:37 Jan 24th 14 - Lady Leila:

You can't possibly know who has the best army in the world as you did not eits every single city out there. But agreed, if farmer needs to go out and fight, then you are right, Von Dorkmoor would be the one.


12:24:21 Jan 24th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

well i could see HoH armies and cities and i knew what race's most were (at the time) so i could take a lucky guess it was the best army :P


16:31:53 Jan 24th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

I agree to Leila, CK cannot get the best KD. Why? Because more than half of the era I was alone so there is no basically that you can call a KD. I've got 1 member who don't even respawn so I kicked him after I accepted Maverick.
Sunday - 26 days ago
05:23:28
Mr. Maverick has been accepted into your kingdom!
Sunday - 12 days ago
19:30:09
Ms. Peach has been accepted into your kingdom!

Although I disagree how can I cannot be pressured when I'm alone and there is 3 players threatening my core. That's the reason I couldn't have any expeditionary forces to launch when I need to defend 2 blockers alone plus inactivity. So I needed to sat on my blockers until Maverick can defend one of the blockers. Eventually I managed to kill Reid after that and kill some big armies that lurking near my core.

Oh, I remember I constantly got annoying message from Sorra that time, even if he had only pathetic armies who invaded me a couple of times but failed eventually. I also receive KD invitation while he seem to realized that he is just doing some futile efforts.

As our numbers was only 2 that time, I cannot go farther away from our core as there is always constant threat of big armies that's why I only marched within southeastern tile of the map. Also part of my plan is to conquer and reconquer small cities as I manage to loot some great treasures from them.

Regarding my post 'why are you running away from me?', I only posted it after I launched my biggest army and all your armies near me were scattered and running away so I don't want to chase because of my inactivity.

So saying that there are no real pressure at all was crap.

I also nominate myself for Best Magic User as I managed to repel OOP attackers using RoF mutiple times and managed to use Freeze effectively that made me kick and slaughtered some big armies. And of course the very obvious STGing that keep me alive. Oh, I wanna thank you all for your cheap stones. I think I profited more than 500m on it. :P


18:55:26 Jan 24th 14 - Arthur Dent (Mr. Arthur Dent II):

I second that cheap stone.  It was nice stuff!!


19:06:48 Jan 24th 14 - Lord Maui:

Kingdom victory: 


BDSM - Stuck together under pressure , played as hard as we could in the face of overwhelming odds 
 
Players awards:

Best overall player:

Evans (BDSM) - powerhouse oop , and saved core many times during era from large dwarf armies

Best out of protection player:

Evans (BDSM) - Zerk armies at oop time ... magic 

Best late era player:

Von (KH) - with his zerker army , Paschal (CK) - his Knight Army 

Best farmer ( i am changing this to 'Best recovery from near death"

Jasmine (KHS) - Knew it would happen and it did :-)

Best magic user:

whoever was casting for KH 


23:50:12 Jan 24th 14 - Teirdel (Mr. Chalkz The Smallfolk):

I love era rewards. I cant believe I forgot about these and the flame wars they created. This is great. Here is my opinion on the matter


Best Kingdom

BDSM (No arguments there)


Best player

I find this one hard. Id like to say Arthur for being active and kicking ass, Woden for the same but at same time BDSM had some pretty beast players themselves.


Worst player

I voluntarily vote for myself.


Traitor of the era

None


Farmer of the era

Guys have any of you seen an army of mine the entire era huh?



Flame away! member if no1 can agree its Chalkz.


23:52:55 Jan 24th 14 - SFD (Lord Search For Destruction):

yas T over 200k advents or something if i remember correct, but thats what 3/4 days worth of training for a none fighting halfer :P


23:54:12 Jan 24th 14 - Teirdel (Saint Teirdel):

Bingo!!! I have a few large armies somewhere but at this point im just throwing them at bobs 2 cities. will he kill them. pretty sure. will I stop? prob not.


23:57:46 Jan 24th 14 - SFD (Lord Search For Destruction):

lolol is bob still alive rofl


23:58:28 Jan 24th 14 - Teirdel (Mr. Valael Teirdel):

ya I didn't even realize it until id say a few days ago.


00:00:04 Jan 25th 14 - SFD (Lord Search For Destruction):

has he done anything since i left?


00:04:25 Jan 25th 14 - Teirdel (Mr. Feardellas):

no. tbh im just being an ahole. Hes sitting in his cities minding his own business. I really should just gather all the troops together and try to take it but...well.. era is kinda decided.


01:47:17 Jan 25th 14 - Mr. Herojdp IV:

15:37:35 - All troops in Chain of Memories have died.

15:37:35 - Chain of Memories lost a battle against Swords from Lord Paschal. We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Archers, 13652 Knights, 0 Magicians, 0 Catapults and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.

15:37:19 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 3141 troops burned to death.

15:37:02 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 3931 troops burned to death.

15:36:58 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 4894 troops burned to death.

15:36:53 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us.

15:36:49 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 6404 troops burned to death.

15:36:46 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 8006 troops burned to death.

15:36:30 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 10007 troops burned to death.

15:36:27 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us.

15:36:23 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us.

15:36:19 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 12509 troops burned to death.

15:36:15 - Lord Paschal attempted to cast a spell upon us.

15:36:11 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 15636 troops burned to death.

15:36:04 - Fire rains from the sky on our Chain of Memories army! 19545 troops burned to death.

12:00:13 - There are no buildings left in Bllooccckk. The city now lies in ruins!

06:59:23 - Our city, Hoasfi has been liberated! Mr. Herojdp IV has freed our people.

See older news

Lord Paschal  After what your magic did to my other armies I honestly didn't wanna go near any of your cities. 

03:55:20 Jan 25th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

@Herojdp, haha! your 97k Knights in exchange of my 20k MUs. :P


06:21:11 Jan 25th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

@Evans,
[Best late era player:
Not Vonn, his army was not that amazing he had too long to train it, i managed 80k of his 120k in three days with other threats, therefore I'd give this to paschal for his knight rampage]

You're wrong about my Knight rampage, I only have at the highest peak was 500k Knights, what boosted my army was my 80k Catas. Although you can now ignore the count as I lost more than half of my army after kicking Vonn's army.

We will fell soon, as KH has a mage that can AotD Vonn's. While I need to AotD myself. But I doubt I can recover since I got only 20% AotD chance on my army by 200k MUs before I hit Vonn, so it might need atleast 500k MUs just to AotD my army now. But will try my chances. ;)


09:27:02 Jan 25th 14 - Teirdel (Saint Teirdel):

Either way your campanion knights are doing very well.


13:43:51 Jan 26th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

hurry up and end mann wtf is taking so long -_-


13:49:47 Jan 26th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

They still can't penetrate our little core. :P


13:54:15 Jan 26th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

guys just forget about him lol, always time to get him next age so hurry up :P


14:08:19 Jan 26th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

Oh, crap! I failed AotDing my army with 450k MUs. We are totally dead now. -_-


14:09:58 Jan 26th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

hahaha, message zeta and tell him to end the world asap so next age you can say you didnt die :P


14:25:14 Jan 26th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

Hahaha! Right! :D


00:23:19 Jan 27th 14 - Teirdel (Mr. Feardellas):

Waiting on arma from zeta atm.


00:24:22 Jan 27th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

you mean 20 people and no arma caster...... nice ;)


00:34:52 Jan 27th 14 - Ms. Leila II:

Funny situation.
So you have two kingdoms of 10 people each, still both very powerful.

And a guy that is about to die,his kingdom is 17% of strength of other kingdoms
And he can ask for armageddon and it will be accepted?
How can that be?

Look at Fantasia then.
There are several strong kingdoms, and lets say someone from Freelance writes to Zeta and it gets armageddon. How is that realistic?

On Mantrax, lets say BoW (has 11% power of strong kingdoms) asks for armageddon and they get it? Where is the logic in that?

Armageddon should only be allowed if one of the victorious kingdoms asksfor it. What do you know, maybe KH and KHS want to do a one on one and you ask for armageddon when you have no right to ask for it.


00:57:10 Jan 27th 14 - Sir Sorra:

Exactly, you have no idea what KH and KHs have planned. Maybe we just wanted to clear the map for a total war between the to, want to see which faction is better, or other such similar things. You have no idea and have no right to ask for Arama. As Leila said, the only people who have the right to ask for Arama is are the victorious Kingdom. This is something known in VU. I dont know why this even needs to be explained. 


01:05:17 Jan 27th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

ok if you want to war them............ how about you dont be the "same" KD next time? simple.
not waste everyones time just so you guys can "see who's better" you have had all era to see.
absolute waste of every single persons time. i mean ok fine if there are at least another 20 people to deal with and thats at least, maybe then we would be fine with 20 people CFing till the end to kill each other, But remind me again how many enemies you guys had  ?? 6 was it?

and since KH did more than KHS i would say maybe, just maybe its them???
I mean they had 6 people to deal with and you guys had 1 after all.

JS :)



01:12:57 Jan 27th 14 - Teirdel (Mr. Feardellas):

either way there are plenty of people with many anticipations for the following era. For example the FFA. I know for a fact a few kh members are interested and I personally would like to see the outcome. I believe overall resetting starta ASAP will be in the COMMUNITY's best interest.


Though also at the same time its up to the victors to decide. We already have however asked for arma.



01:14:15 Jan 27th 14 - Mr. Kye:

Are the current KD's on Starta ok with the FFA?  We would really appreciate that no kingdoms would be on the map.  


01:15:06 Jan 27th 14 - SFD (Duke Hybrid):

Though also at the same time its up to the victors to decide. We already have however asked for arma.

lol then why are liala and sorra getting at ryan for asking rofl :P


01:24:45 Jan 27th 14 - Ms. Leila II:

How is it waste of my time?
Form a kingdom and win, and decide what to do.
Why would we end the world when you want it?
That makes no sense.

If you have problem with a large kingdom, make one yourself and war
Less talk, more fighting please.

And what do you mean by KH doing more than KHS?
We had clear assignment take on east of the map, and KH took on west part of the map. I have been fighting all era.
First it was Fula Mboror (Kaths kingdom) that I took 1 on 1.

Then it was time for Zepiroth, guy in corner of the map that managed to farm while I fought Kath. I got some help there from Omega and Hero, in the end I managed to take down Zeph's income and Omega finished enemy armies I think.

Then after that we started moving down south, and since we have been spread a lot as KHS, it was difficult. For example Jasmine ended up alone next to enemy core, so she was almost killed and then returned.

Our enemies were honorable and good sports, unlike some people

Mr. Bob Dylan (1/9/2014 12:13:44 AM)GOODBAD
Seriously go suck a *beep*.


You can take a look at most fearsome list. Out of six of them, its Pascal, Evans, and Arthur from KH
Redicule,Hero and me, all KHS (Redicule just recently joined KH afterhe was accidently kicked out of KHS)

By the way, Jasmine was holding Maui in their core, as he was not able to move north to attack because she was close, he knew that if he leaves his core is in danger. and we had Sorra, Redicule and Jasmine at the same time there, so he could not attack either.

Not to mention cooperation between KH and KHS, into allowing this to move a bit north, so that KH can freeze it and Learner of KHS to slaughter it.

21:18:15 Dec 29th 13 - Ms. Jasmine:

Taste Sweet from Lord Steal For Drugs
Gaia:2
Hammerthrowers:0
Ogres:120712
Shamans:78736
Nazguls:1716
Peasants:0

That was Dec 29th, still all us doing stuff, while most of KH was farming those armies for the final attack. Never thought that was the idea,to let people farm so they can finish the war, because that is what is needed sometimes. P








01:32:10 Jan 27th 14 - Teirdel (Mr. Chalkz The Smallfolk):

Very well put Leila. Yes KHS and KH are to be treated as one kd. call it Kingdom Hearts Kingdom if youd like or KHKD. Either way coordination was key between the kingdoms and Selos and Koss were INSTRUCTED to farm those armies.


As for honor besides one specific individual all parties involved have been very diplomatic and respectful and i would be more than happy to fight them again next era. Honestly if they had a secure coreid like to think with the members they have now (had less when it started) they would do extremely well.


Also id like to point out there are really no hard feelings here since a good chunk of members from BDSM are friends and Kd mates ive played with for a very long time.


cept SFD. he aint a friend more like a fly on the wall that just happens to be everywhere i go.


02:36:13 Jan 27th 14 - Lord Maui:

Why are we still arguing over this ? 

BDSM lost , we fought valiantly but in the end we lost , and the whole you guys farmed all era while we warred is mute .. look at the scoreboard ...
And like posted above every empire has members who are told to farm up large mid/late era armies difference with BDSM we didn't have that luxury because of well organised work between KH and KHS and didnt have the numbers but hell thats war Only thing that 'got up my nose' was sorras 'propaganda speeches ' in the forum and in private messages which is why there was some heated messages between our leader and KH/KHS members . 
But even this was part of the war .. 'get into the heads of the enemies' and they may do something which will give us a advantage .

So well done KH/KHS and since its your world this era do as you will , because thats your right all of us that have fallen there and all the ones waiting will have to do just that ..wait .. :-)


02:36:53 Jan 27th 14 - Ryan the Archion (Lord Paschal):

LoL! Who said I'm sure that Zeta will heed to my request? Of course I know it is the victors decision. I just assumed that since I'm near death, KHS/KH have the same thought. What I don't know is that you might have another lame idea of prolonging the era.

If you truly all believe that you are the victors then kill me already. Prove it, not just say it here on the forums.You guys have 20 members and we are just two (where Maverick just joined almost 2/3 of the era), still every army you send are being kicked. Even the one you called the most powerful army of Vonn. Just make sure your armies are greater than Vonn's army when you prep.

Of course I expect to fall soon. I just hope you make it sooner.


19:05:11 Jan 28th 14 - Ms. Jasmine:

That is strange, I thought two votes for no would not end it right away.
I guess I do not really know the mechanic behind the voting for arma.
Looks like its over.

Todays news
18:17:46
Age 27 of Starta has ended by Armageddon votes! There where 8 people who wanted the age to end, 2 didn't, and 8 did not vote.


Thank you all for a nice era.
Congrats to everyone who thinks they played well.

And good luck to you all who are staying on Starta.
Take care!




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