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All I have to say is this era needs to end lol

From my perspective:

In the lead up to Armageddon, Vivi cancelled peace with us and marched to 'wipe us out'. We pushed back. He allowed arma to stop. The war waged on and slowly turned.

1) We were approached by a faction, led by Baron Gandalug, seeking Peace. What we wanted out of it was territorial integrity. That meant the armories that had been built up right on our border either needed to be seized or needed to be burned. 

2) We extended an offer for peace, operating under the assumption that almost all of The Titans was led astray by Vivi and Valhalla, that the majority of them didn't want the conflict. As such, we negotiated a way wherein those who no longer wanted to war us would leave The Titans and join From The Ashes. We had anticipated The Titans to be a derilict Kingdom, with Only Vivi in it, should he return. He abandoned you, it would only seem fair for you all to abandon him.

3) We were surprised that so few members were leaving The Titans but seemed, instead, interested in maintaining conflict. Aside from Baron Gandaluh, not a single former Titan ever expressed interest in Peace. We had moved armies in preparation to claim the cities that would secure our territorial integrity. 

4) In light of the fact that The Titans (larger than we anticipated them to be, as we assumed essentially every player would migrate over to the new KD) moved armies toward our cities. We could only assume this meant that you intended to  attack us, as it was in direct proximity to our cities (Lovechild, in particular).

Had the remaining Titans (which we had assumed would be Vivi) wanted Peace, they should have (and still can) contact us. No such leader has done any such thing. The only threat being posed to our territorial integrity is by armies controlled by The Titans, moving on us. As such, we have renegotiated with From the Ashes, and are isntead moving to reclaim cities taken from Mr. Spoook and to destroy the armories built adjacent to Mr. Lovechild's city.

This is what has transpired. No fluff. These were our observations, and this is what drove our decision making.

Our end goal is, and has always been Low LOW prices for all of Valhalla.
That only happens when we can focus on economic development.
That only happens when we aren't forced into conflicts we didn't want (Like by The Titans).

So we are left with either needing to end the conflict via diplomacy or War. We have worked towards that with a portion via the formation of From the Ashes. No remaining members have contacted us about peace. Rather, we have been insulted, mischaracterized,  and demeaned.

We are a predictable Kingdom. We will play the role of merchants. We want profit, not land. 

The only thing stopping me from all out peace right now is that I have alot of members who have been playing defensive for weeks because of a massive team coming down on us relentlessly. 

Finally we all have nice armies built up, and no one to use them on. It almost seems unfair because it does take weeks to get to that level.

At the same time, it is not our goal to strike fear into the hearts of our customers. Obviously we need land to produce, but at the same time, there is a return on investment with having to defend vast tracts. 

Communication with a Kingdom takes time as people have to log in at different times, etc. 

At this point, I would sort of like to see Zeta cast Armageddon and then all of us make up, and decide that everyone fights everyone and just see where the last 10 days of the era goes. 

My people will be disappointed at this peace because of having finally got nice advanced armies, and we are a company, not a dictatorship, so I would like for them to chime in here.

As i said, i was away in real life myself. So my perspective is indeed correct until corrected. War is not over. Like Bigfield said, may as well go for the free for all. So anyone who thought "war is over", finds that now suddenly they're back in it. So obviously this "war is over", is obviously a dumb announcement that goes all against what Bigfield announced himself. Vivi denounced his own code of honor and we are willingly to fight along the mud that our honor of death shall remain the same. You left because yeah you left of Vivi, but you left of war to be with the top dog now. Honestly, that is something you chose, not what i would have done myself. But i'm not you, so i'm not worried.

Real life is seperated from this game and should never be used as alibi for your obvious shortcomings. As it is true that real life is more important, it doesn't free you from the sin of negligence given your post as vice leader.

I agree with Pang Tong.

I have no problems Bigfield as it is your first time, and you should continue to lead, not too shabby for a first time. Why I am not a leader, usually just a soldier of war :-P

When people left like yourself, you relieved yourself from all duties. Now it is up to the remainder who is here and now in The Titans. So all decisions now rendered fall onto myself and others. So concerning yourself from the issues you have dealt has been dealt by joining HnS. Now they decide on decisions in their own kingdom and for The Titan, you seem to forget that now

MY EYESSS!!! so much wall of texts that i just didnt read most of it...One thing i notice is that you guys are arguing over an era that is more or less over.

Lets have zeta cast arma, and we can sort it out next era, shall we? :) Forget about this era - winners, losers - doesn't really matter.

You guys are no fun, I was enjoying the mini novels.

honestly, lets continue the novels next era :)

Zeta - PLEASE!!!!!

not that i am aware of..

Ive also messaged zeta yesterday to end both Valhalla and Fantasia

From the Ashes disbanded from the Titans because we no longer wanted to be apart of a leaderless Kingdom, and when we did have a leader, we did not support the HnS war, it was a decision made by Vivi without consulting anybody. Most of us didn't say anything as we figured the era would be over soon so oh well. Then Vivi left the arma city undefended - and from the point Iifa Tree was taken Vivi has been MIA.

After criticizing one of our members on the importance to have defenses, he left the most important city undefended and took no responsibility. I doubt a real life situation caused his absence as being a Kingdom leader you would think you would have the decency to say Hey everybody, I have to leave, but instead we got nothing. No forum post, no messages, but he did log in for a couple more days before completely disappearing. -In our eyes, this was a rage quit.

After witnessing this with absolutely zero follow-up from Vivi, Stelius and I decided next era we will join a different Kingdom - we don't want to be apart of this. Now we were stuck in a war with HnS that we didn't want, so we decided instead of trying to fight two wars in a broken Kingdom, we'll regroup and start our own with those who will follow.

Our only quarrel with the Titans is Vivi and Valhalla going unresponsive. I have no animosity towards any other Titan members, and we were hoping the remaining active players would join us, but it looks like this wont be the case.

The only thing I think we can all agree on is to cast arma. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in the Titans, but I'm done sitting on a sinking ship that the captain jumped off.

15:03:13 - Jibbly lead by Mr. Nerdmuscle attacked and took over Well. They also took 126293 gold, 33597 stone, 13286 tree, 3389 food and 28 slaves from us! And 7142 of the peasants in the city where taken as slaves! We lost 0 Hobgoblins, 0 Rockthrowers, 0 Warlords, 0 Mages, 0 Berserkers and 7142 peasants in the battle.

Pang Tong, fight him and take it back. He knew he wasn't supposed to, though at this point in the era it is inconsequential. We are wanting it to end. 

Is anyone researching towarss Armageddon?

6:22:02 May 16th 16 - Dragon Prophet Theophilus:

maybe he is preparing sushi?

Pretty sure it was a joke. He was implying the head of the axe had been completely worn off from sharpening it in waiting of a war that never came and now was only to only the shaft.

That makes more sense lol.

Everyone send all of their armies in an epic 4 way line up, in formations of XXXXX?

10 points to Tyrin.

Pang tong...

It was my first ever time trying to lead. Mistakes were made, and lessons are learned.