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Hold on a second.


TBL comes in here like a marauding moron, crying about Fords KD being a new DB and insulting him and his new members, then asks for a LGC explaination.

Mr. Emulating Mighty Wilber Report 01:52:57 Feb 20th 13

A couple of little birds are telling me that Legacy will have 40 players next era, 20 of them in a new kingdom (to be called Dark Blood). Its their way of supposedly dealing with the whole imaginary "2 active kingdoms ganging up against the 3rd active kingdom" issue. Care to comment, Legacy? :D

I reply, suggesting Ford probably created the new KD because of the stagnation on Fantasia regarding KD politics [pointing out BEO always NAP Immortals, while we vary our relations each era], and then TBL jumps down our throats and accuses us of "making excuses" when answering his question?

LOL.

TBL is scared, he didnt took up my smelly glove :(

Whether Ford's KD decideds to NAP LGC, or whether they want to go in it alone from the off, that's their decision and their prerogative. It has nothing to do with the DB-LGC situation. Pull up a seat TBL, I'll give you a quick lesson on VU history.

One of the main reasons for the DB split, was that some of the members just downright couldn't get on with each other, no names (but I can confirm they are a fat Oxford man who stares at womens noses, with a passionate dislike for you TBL and a beautiful Texan lady with a sweet voice, with a passionate dislike for you TBL).

The reason for Ford quitting? Is because he feels like Fant needs some excitement and another active KD to add to the trio of KDs (not gonna mention 2 active KDs NAPing each other just to fight the 3rd) who are active. The monotonous certainty of Beo/LGC/Immo politics is tedious, at best. We will do this dance forever with the current variables heavily stacked in your favour (2v1 and larger playerbase). In addition to adding this curveball, Ford has decided he wants to lead his own KD after a rather (admittedly) uninspiring era by Legacy, so he wants to do things his own way. Whether that be dancing the nights away with Augh, or as a LGC ally, I certainly don't know.

Now before you make out we're downtalking MAD/Relent. Relent are a good KD when active and have had many great names in their list and MAD are the longest continually running KD around, previous era winners, fantastic names in their roster and not only am I friends with Aloysius, I have played with them in the past.
If you want to make it look like we're dicks to our friends and occasional NAP partners, I'm sure I can go and find the some quotes sent to some members of LGC from Beo members saying that they 'want to break the NAP with MAD' or that they were going to 'pretend to be inactive, so Fordius takes more MAD cities, so then Beo can take them off him.'

Alas, I sidetracked. To say Relent and MAD were anything more than inactive, or playing with very few members this era, would be a lie. You can see how small MAD were OOP this era, and you can see how Relent have been slow to react, or if you haven't, I'm sure Swifty can relay the fact it sometimes took well over 24 hours to receive a simple reply from the leadership of Relent.


How would we be hypocrits if we were to ally Ford? Not sure what you're getting at? Grasping at straws again are we TBL? Does allying one of the other 3 KDs make us hypocrits? For us to become hypocrits, we'd have to hit that big 30 member count, Immortals to suddenly disappear and THEN NAP Ford's KD. I find it highly unlikely all 3 of those things happen.

Btw, Immortals and beo had no agreement last era. Beo just kindly left us alone after lgc defeated us after our poor performance and then we got killed oop by mad. Likewise FF offered us space to restart in, sadly we could not repay that kindness this era since they decided to war us :/

I haven't replied to Wilber yet, because I have had a tough day and can't be arsed to for the moment.

But Fordius, seriously, if you want to NAP Legacy next era, by all fucking means go ahead. I don't know about my kingdomates, but it doesn't bother me what shit you do in the game. It has no impact on my personal life.

As a matter of fact, there are times when I would welcome getting my ass kicked early. At least it gives me a break when I need it. If I am playing next era, and you and Legacy NAP, and you guys kick my ass, then I will be happy. I don't need to look at Fantasia for a long long while. I can just slunk around on the lower maps, logging in at my leisure with no commitment or performance pressures. Seriously, do you even think I enjoy playing Fantasia?

Your kingdomates have trolled my kingdom heavily. You did not publicly defend my kingdom at all. Now when I troll you guys, you jump up and down like I had just slapped your parents.

Several of my friends and I have destroyed huge kingdoms in the past against massive odds. Swifty will never forget what Fate and I did to him, Revelation, Phi and No Pulse in Mantrax in one of the enjoined map eras. And that is just one example. So as far as I am concerned, my kingdomates and I have got nothing to prove - to you or to Legacy. You and Legacy should adopt the same attitude.... you guys have your achievements... what else do you guys need to prove? All those stupid snide comments about Beothuk mass-NApping or mass-membering despite all the facts on the ground to the contrary were truly bitchy comments that I only expect from sore losers.

Ford I would encurage you to read again what I wrote becouse you obviously misunderstood me!

this is how the arguing in this thread makes me feel

I like this thread, reminds me on the good old flame wars years ago....

This community got so soft that it is boring to read the forum these days.

So pls keep on fighting, try to entertain us a little bit more, no matter how meaningless it is :D.

Oh and btw I like the idea of having more kingdoms and players in fantasia, I think it is a shame that people are allowed to hide in lower worlds anyway, but I guese this is another topic.

So good luck ford & mates, c ya next era.

The flame wars now are not even close to the quality they once used to be. Flame wars now are just boring :S

someone cast arma quick! I can't wait for the next era lol.

feckin respawn Binh ;)

So much blablablabla

Could you please just have sex already.. jeez

Sigh.....

OK, so how should I respond to the folks up there... there are some seriously deluded people in this game... :(

1. @ Fordius:

Fordius, seriously, do whatever you want, son. Whatever you want. Please read my lips: "I don't give a shit what you do or what you think." I hope you understand this simple English sentence. OK, I'm moving on from you.... you do not interest me at all :D

Now Quiet One, Swifty and Wilberforce... they do interest me to a certain extent ;)

2. @ Wilberpoo, my hero and role model, the reason why I am so successful in VU:

I am pleased to note that one of the things Quiet One and Swifty have in common is their mutual dislike of me (I hope, with an intense passion). May I also add that another thing they share in common is that they have been made my bitch several times already. Very unhappily and unwillingly too, I must add. I wonder why... :(

May I also add that I do not return their feelings of dislike towards me. My feelings and views towards Quiet One and Swifty have always been clearly described as follows: contempt, disdain, disgust, amusement, comedy, silliness and stupidity. Plenty of labels, I know, but they are that surprisingly rare breed of people who have so many things going for them :)

Where the hypocrisy is concerned, I alluded to it for one simple reason - as Augh said, Dark Blood was originally created to be a "sister / satellite kingdom" to Legacy. Much like how Fordius created Velocity to be a sister / satellite kingdom to the original Revelation. And yes, Velocity was a debacle of a kingdom :P

I saw the similarities and coincidences lining up with Fordius' formation of a new kingdom. As they say... history repeats itself. This was what led to my allusions of a Dark Blood version 5.0, and to my pleasant surprise, the bait snared multiple fish! If my allusions are wrong, then of course, I would look the fool, not Fordius or Legacy. And if I look the fool, then good for you guys.

Where hypocrisy is concerned, everyone in VU knows that for all of Legacy's big talk about being a "no-NAP" kingdom, they are among the last people to practice what they preach. 3 eras ago, Legacy NAPped Relentless and MAD in order to counter Immortals and Vitamins. The era before that, Legacy NAPped Hex in order to get the era win. 2 eras ago, Legacy entered into a... "mass understanding" with MAD, Relentless and BF in order to  combat Beothuk and Immortals. This era, Legacy NAPped Relentless, who served as excellent meat-shields, wearing down Beothuk's frontline armouries until Legacy could overcome them. On the otherhand, Beothuk never used Immortals as a meatshield. We have a personal policy - we knock down the door ourselves and earn our spoils fairly.

I've also seen kingdoms under Fordius and Legacy balloon to above 30 members in the past. Legacy had 33 members in the first era of Elsin. Revelation had 38 members when it first started (a merger of old Legacy and Prosapia). DOA, under your (very capable) leadership, had 45 members! I find it ironic that previous practitioners of the "mass membering" technique are now up in arms over a kingdom that has 30 members. Even more ironic is that Legacy had only 6 members less but has implicitly acknowledged that it is not Beothuk's equal until Beothuk has exactly the same member count as it. So much for Legacy being an elite, superior kingdom without peer :D

Look Wilberforce.... you yourself have said that this era was an uninspiring one for Legacy. I kinda agree.... Swifty is not fit to be a leader, and without Binh to direct and guide Legacy, it can be pretty directionless at times (which is why I always said that Binh's return would put Legacy back into top dog status). This is the real reason for your defeat, not Beothuk "NAPping the only active kingdom on the map" or "mass membering". If your kingdom had been giving out the proper acknowledgements.... we wouldn't be having such a hostile conversation today.

Admittedly, you have flair for the English language. And if you try, you can make some pretty convincing arguments. This is a good improvement from the fool that you were in the past. You should put that ability of yours to proper use.

3. @ Swiftypoo:

I'm not butthurt at all here, mate, so don't mad :D This verbal skirmish on the forums is nothing but a sideshow, and probably comedy to the rest of VU that watches from the sidelines (with us actors serving as clowns extraordinaire).

It is the actual results on the field of battle that count. I probably agree that Beothuk had one too many NAPs last era. But the era before last and this era were pretty much fair and equal battles. Look at it... this era, Legacy and Relentless faced Beothuk in practically (I acknowledge Feckers' being a distraction) a virtual one on one for almost 2 weeks (out of a 24 day era). Yet, it was Beothuk that had Legacy on the backpedal. We were landing body blows to you with your back on the rope, while your counter-attacks, outside of the damage you did to us with your OOP orc armouries, were negligible. Every card you guys revealed (Khan, Warlock, Dreadlord, Stewie, Fordius) was eventually countered by an even stronger card from our side. And finally, you guys ran out of steam and ideas, and we won the duel.

In short, Swifty, you're all talk and no substance. You can't back up your whine with concrete results. You have the best players in the game gathered under one banner, and yet, you complain about Beothuk and its 30 members (2 of which dropped only 1 city, then went inactive for the rest of the era). A Legacy under Binh would have looked at Beothuk and said: "Great, an even bigger challenge. We're gonna whoop their asses and prove we're better." Instead, a Legacy under you goes: "Its not fair. You have 30 members compared to our 24. That's why we can't beat you guys. If only you guys had 24 members only, we would have won!"

That's another thing you and Quiet One have in common. You two have major deficiencies as players, personalities and leaders, but as far as you are concerned, it is all the other side's fault that you guys lost. It is never yours.

Swifty - the laughing stock of VU. Alongside the Quiet One. No wonder you guys couldn't get along with each other. And no wonder you guys interest me so :D

On a serious note.....

The various kingdom leaders should all have a sit-together in Skype before era start, and hammer out the details of the "No NAP agreement or understanding". There is a lot of room for misunderstanding here... like... if my kingdom bordered another kingdom, but I decided to wait in my blockers for the right time to strike, would my kingdom be accused of having a NAP or CF with that kingdom?

At least if the leaders all sit down and have a talk, then maybe something can be achieved from there.

And no, Legacy should not send Swifty. No one will listen to him. Only person who commands respect from the rest of VU is Binh. Please send him instead, thank you.


P.S. Binh, you ordered for Arma. Arma is now served... but you will have to wait a bit :P

Ford, chill man, I was not relating your kd to DB, I was relating the current situation to the situation when DB was created. And so far the only thing I know about your new kd is that you will be in it :P

I do give a fuck about Wilber and Swifty. They're my favourite pile of crap to play in and get dirty :D (similar to how kids like to jump into sandboxes and mudpools or play with plasticine) Without them, I would have a very boring life on VU :(

(and I miss Quiet One too - she was always an easy one to rile up :P Raistlin was always good to make fun off since he talks big but never contributes to his kingdom. Cobra and Revenge were also hilarious..... big time talkers that are even more hopeless and substance-less then Swifty :P Man, a lot of veterans living on "glory days" but who couldn't do shit in VU in modern times, *chortle*)

And Warlock, as I said, for Beo to accept the stinky white glove, go and get all Fantasia kingdom leaders into a Skype chat or something and come to an agreement. Is such a simple logistics matter like this very difficult for you to handle? You have 9 and 1/2 days before the next era starts anyway :D

Still enough time for kingdom leaders to sit down and discuss having a no-NAP round next era.

Don't understand why no initiative is being taken on that matter.... *shrug*

Im confused, Tbl why is it as soon as there are rumors of a new active kingdom that you most likely wouldn't be able to persuade into friendly relations you panic and start to demand no relations next era from any kingdoms? I'm not in any position of leadership but I'm sure the leaders of LGC will play next era like any other i.e No naps. Why dont you just take the initiative and tell your kingdom next era you plan to play Fant the way its meant to be (Dont complain about stress, if you want to play stress free play on lower worlds and only log in 3 or 4 times a day) I would nearly guarantee LGC and fckers will (Its sad that a 6 man kingdom has more balls then a 25+ kingdom).

Stormys need a cookie?

Lol, 

I don't believe for one moment Beo would adhere to a no-NAP policy anyway. NAPing is a part of their DNA.

Just look at last era as an example of no NAPing. LGC had a genuine no NAP policy and fought MAD/Relent/Immortals/Blings/BEO simultaneously. No breaks, no "ceasefires", no stop in the fight. 100% warfare from day one to the end.

Then look at BEO. BEO claimed they didn't NAP Immortals, yet Immortals set up towns in, around and below Beos armouries, while Beo armies regularly passed Immortals as they made their way from Beos core to the front. Beo never attacked them. [Or anybody else for that matter. LOL!]


I bet you if we were to have a no NAP situation next era, the same would happen again. BEO would refuse to hit certain KDs like Immortals and focus on 1 enemy, while kds like LGC, Fords KD [or DB, as Augh/TBL call it] and Blings would legitimately fight all.

Battles won/lost just tells you who is dead and who is still alive.  Most "wins" occur long after the war is over.

I'm not even playing fantasia this round so its not like I even care about the argument one way or another.

Lets all kill Zond first and see from there.

Is like a clone jutsu! kill all the Zonds! :P