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Fantasia era 54
02:48:21 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

They have dropped. Eddie had to beg Collective to attack us when they were getting over run by 3 players.


02:54:59 Mar 20th 18 - Princess Aisha:

Bling did you just brag that you will cheat to defeat us?


02:57:10 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

No, because apparently, bug abuse is not cheating according to Alba, so if its gloves off, then lets have at it.  When I was in IG, I left the kd on the principle that Bran wanted to do a riverjump to take out an enemy (which was Alba ironically) , and that didn't sit well with me.  But seems these new young kd's have zero respect for the traditions that have been in place for many era's, so now we go for a free for all.


02:59:48 Mar 20th 18 - Princess Aisha:

You are not making a good example by "infiltrating" someone in a kd to have them leave and attack the kingdom. If you were really honorable that would not even cross your mind.


03:01:03 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

After last era's antics by Ascension and Alba, honour is long gone.  Now I'll use every Agent Smith/Rambo tactic going.


03:04:09 Mar 20th 18 - Princess Aisha:

Again, lead by example, do not resort to bug abusing.


03:04:18 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Athtiud Ignis:

No no agent Smith tactics are the worst. I remember that one era where he backstabbed the whole kd and took over a major area of the core.:(


03:08:59 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Why, tell me exactly why not. Because when they use it, its fine? When they abuse a bug and waste many hours of peoples time because they are infinitely inferior, that they have to deliberately drop a city, build a wall, close the gates so they dont lose track of the city when they teleport it, then get the next largest kd who is hiding in their core to teleport the city after they have farmed up a player to prep the city, all because they don't have the tactical awareness of TBL to break a kingdom down, even when its a 3 vs 1 gangbang?  Which part of that is fair. Don't ask for fair when members of your own kd were part of that little escapade.


03:10:31 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Could be worse. If i can nudge the map correctly, a few players may find their troops inside forests they cant get out of.


03:10:45 Mar 20th 18 - Princess Aisha:

Members of my kingdom part of bug abusing? Name them please


03:11:33 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Any of them who were in Ascension last era.


03:13:21 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

You that naive to not know what Water was going to do? The dude cant stop telling everyone how great he is, and he instigated it.


03:17:08 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Then Alba are getting over run because Water's great plan to attack us failed, and he writes this big speech about kissing his ass or some shit, and that his players must fight to the last man so he can have time to escape to the south west corner... seriously. Some knobhead vice in my kd spews that shit, i kick him and feed him to the kd.


03:19:50 Mar 20th 18 - Captain Xian:

Wow. If I join a KD, I too can be as butthurt as Fecker one day...


I'll pass. Both on KDs and on ever playing Elves again.


03:21:21 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

You sound like a homofag Captain Twat, so sit down and get back to hiding on the map, little bitch cry baby.


03:23:30 Mar 20th 18 - Princess Aisha:

None of Collective members were in Ascension, its a group of people that play a different game I used to play, I met them there, and from time to time they come here for an era or two and then they go back to their game. That is why Collective play an era or two then goes into hiding for two-three eras till they return. They are a group of young guys that enjoy the teamwork and the freedom to do what ever you want on the map, and they have been working together for years in the other game, and thats why we enjoy when we play.  They do lose interest after a while, because the game is stagnant and does not really  improve over time like others do.

Last era I only played Valhalla and was about to quit VU for a few months till they called me to play, so I do not know what happened last era, but I find it hard to believe that people from Ascension would bug abuse like that. I only know that kingdoms joined up against Mad because they were by far the most active veteran kingdom in the game, so the other kingdoms joined up against them. Its really sad if bug abusing was also needed.

But the era before that Mad was so impressive that they could expect others to team up against them. Hell this era I noticed Mad quickly build up a core like they always do, and they would quicky build up defenses and come out strong like they always do. My options were let them grow and continue fighting other kingdoms or take them out, which I did. Sure they called me names for it, but they should take it as a compliment that I thought it is much wiser (read:afraid to let them build) to take them out then let them get stronger.


03:23:56 Mar 20th 18 - Runelord Arkan (Mr. Arkmage):

Can confirm the South West is getting awfully convoluted. I wondered what the great Albatrossian migration was about. Might I suggest Anon stems the incursion or does he plan to collude?


03:31:53 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Many of Mad's players left the game, BECAUSE of the one bug abuse incident. 9 players gone who probably wont be back.  Aloy, Fred, Kobus, Sprout and whoever is left of mad will tell you we had every army on the map taken care of, and we mocked the 3 vs 1 because it was failing.


Then Water came up with the plan to abuse a bug.
The bug required 2 kd's (who happened to share a core, be the 2 biggest on the map, and had plenty active players) to work together. One had to drop the city, the other to prep the city and teleport it, then use the bug to self teleport the horde into an enemy core because the connection between the city and the army is still active, even though the two are in different locations.  That is a serious bug flaw, and most kd's agreed in principle not to use it.  But for Water and his Albatwats, anything goes.

And unlike me, when I resigned from Hanky's kd because Bran went river jumping, Justain and co actually defended themselves and Alba for it. So now feckers are back, and I will infiltrate your kd's, and we will feck all of you, you soft willy twats.


03:35:26 Mar 20th 18 - Sir Edi The Great:

Nice walking over water.
Its not bug abuse but poor game design...
I already quit once cause blockers were not blocking
But now you can actually walk over water on this new map lol

This is starting to be just silly.

By the way, I did not play last era.


03:40:58 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Who cares, you were the softcunty twat who had to go begging for Collectives help when not a single one of you clowns have any idea what you're doing.


I offered my own time to review maps on a beta server before they went live, but there was zero support in the suggestions thread. So when your kd submits a map and gets your ass handed to you, dont fecking cry bitch baby, or ignis and I will spank your skanky ass all over the map like we did when you were greased lighting or lighting bolt farts or whatever your idiotic KD name was.


03:42:29 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

And I do believe one of your players walked through a mountain first, long before we walked on water.


03:46:04 Mar 20th 18 - Dark Spawn (Lord Dark Spawn):

Wow, 38 messages over a couple of hours I am gone...
I mean I hate when there is nothing going on on forums, so I often just troll people, go after Aby for no reason, start some sh1t up, start the conversations
Hopefully they do not mind, there is nothing but love to those people, all good players and my picking on you guys is just joking around and trying to increase the activity of the forums....

But Bling really takes it to a all new level :D


03:46:31 Mar 20th 18 - Strawberry (Ms. Strawberry):

Ok i've stayed quiet about this but let me tell the whole fact on what really happened to that teleport situation so you guys can all have a better argument because it pains me to see that you are all arguing on things that are not factual, so here's what really happened and start arguing based on these facts.

Uwer sent a big army heading to our core so normally we would recall our armies in the frontlines back to try to box it in and kill it. Now just north of our core there's an untagged player who is in protection, he has a big 90k city and a decent sized armory but we had absolutely no idea when he will go out of protection so we just ignored him.

Uwer's army seemingly walking towards our blocker suddenly stopped for that untagged city and by time he gets there the guy went out of protection at that exact same tick, its almost like he knew all along when the guy goes out of protection, so i was quite furious in our kingdom forum why people resorts to these kind of things and still branding themselves as honorable people.

We had 3 big armies trying to box in Uwer's big army and for some reason he decided to drop a city and camp there, maybe because he is going offline and dont want his army to be exposed in the field. Now this is where the fun part happens, as our big elf army approaches the city where Uwer is in, but he suddenly started bailing out so i had to freeze him with a very low chance, but there's a problem, his army can just merge back into the city, do the magic protection trick and he will be out so the most obvious and correct thing to do is to TELEPORT that city so he cant merge back to it. Our big elf army is already pathed towards that city to kill Uwer's army inside and the fact that it luckily dropped to a sweet spot after the teleport is a chance we gladly took after seeing the "thing" that happened with the untagged player and we assumed that Uwer is trying to cheat when he did that, if anything we just thought of it as a retribution.

So that's the whole story. Now i tried teleporting cities many times the entire era but i was only doing it to annoy Vladimir who is always scolding me for wasting my magic power, and those cities i teleported previously have no armies prepping them and all of them were small MAD cities and a Jellybean city, not a single Asc city.


03:49:03 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

What... Osi and his twats are homobuttplugs, but at least they are an honest and fair kd to fight, and sometimes I beat them and sometimes they beat me. But collective and Albatwats have proven over and over to be nothing but cowards. But wait, I'll one day convince mad and aby to become feckers and pull out the good old fashioned MAP agreement and run collective and aby off so badly the shame will stink for years.


03:52:57 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Spin it all you want strawberry, fact is you need to know how to attack the city. Its not an obvious bug, its one you have to deliberately go look for. When the city has been teleported, you need to go find that city to click on it, to attack it, because its not where it was.  If you were unaware of it, your army would have walked away, not knowing that this was an abusable bug. 


04:02:18 Mar 20th 18 - Strawberry (Ms. Strawberry):

Of course we did that on purpose because why not? We will not just let Uwer or some other player get away with trying to cheat on us by feeding on an untagged player's full production city and a big armory right outside our blockers. You punch us in the face and we will give it back to you ten times over.


04:05:42 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Your kd is taking tactical direction from waterbender... thats punching yourself in the faces harder than I ever could.


04:13:49 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

An Aisha, feel free to ask both Sprout, as well as the few guys in FW about last era.


Kath ran a few multi's which Sprout and I spotted. When he fckd Alba last era, Sprout and I stopped fighting Alba and went out of our way to hunt him.  We also spotted his multi's on the mantrax map, hiding inside AoA.  Sprout and I deliberately stopped an overwhelming attack on FW to go out of our way to hunt Kath down.

Strawberry admits to bug abuse and i'm the bad guy for pulling a legitimate military tactic of dropping a spy into the enemy. When I give a fck, I'll let you know personally so you can feel high and mighty again.


04:40:21 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Merlin The Magi:

It is hard to do anything right in this game, there will always be someone complaining.
If you attack tagless you are without honor because you attack weaker than you. If you NAP tagless cause you want to be nice, you are considered friends with half the map.

If you are weak and lose wars, people laugh and insult your gameplay
If you are strong and beat people up, they will find a way to insult you, there should be map limits, too large kingdom, too many friends around...

The smartest thing to do might be to simply ignore the public forums and just enjoy the game in your own kingdom forum with your friends.


06:40:31 Mar 20th 18 - Sir Hill:


Captain Xian:

Wow. If I join a KD, I too can be as butthurt as Fecker one day...


I'll pass. Both on KDs and on ever playing Elves again.


Having never played elves I am curious, why will you never again play Elves? I always thought they need way too much time to compete with building plus magic scoence for Archmages to be any good. What is your experience?


07:43:42 Mar 20th 18 - Lord Caedus:

Every era it’s the same story - bling has to blame everyone for something, no ones as good as him, apparently everyone is a ‘homoghey’, blah blah blah. 


Threatened to quit so many times but never man enough to do it. 


07:50:26 Mar 20th 18 - Venomz (Mr. Venhumz):

About that city teleport, bling.. u know u didn't need to actually see the city right? U could just go to your army page and click the city from your prepping army.


Good thing it's fixed now (:


09:32:42 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Caedus... u fall into the buttplug category


09:38:08 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

@Hill and Merlin the Maggot ... guys get real... Collectives tactics are nothing but to use sheer weight of numbers based on the kingdoms superior multi coun... I mean total amount of players. Throw enough multi's.. I mean players at the enemy and eventually you are going to have a break through.


10:49:58 Mar 20th 18 - Captain Xian:

Sir Hill,

"Having never played elves I am curious, why will you never again play Elves? I always thought they need way too much time to compete with building plus magic scoence for Archmages to be any good. What is your experience?"

When I came back from a long break (Rather it was for the same reason as always... reading the manga "Kingdom" xD), I played on Zetamania as a human and one of the things I noticed about them was that when I placed my soldiers in an army, the income from their city dropped by a sustantial amount. I tested it a little bit and found that soldiers were paying a lot more taxes than normal peasants. It was especially useful later in the era when I had a big army out on the field and I needed more money, so I trained swordies that gave me higher income so I could train more troops.

Anyways... From that I thought "Cool. Soldiers give me money by doing nothing"

Turns out that is not a thing... With elves at least. I'd train troops, the peasants would vanish, dropping my income for the city and then when they finally finished training... No tax... No gold... "dafuk is this shit" I thought.

So that was my first issue.

My second one is with their troops.

Ghosts are cheap and you can spam them to defend against potential invaders, but guess what? You want to move that massive army of ghosts? Its gonna cost a lot of gold to keep them on the field, not to mention if you aren't active and get caught unawares, that 1 defense unit is worth exactly that... One.

Archers and Riders have a good defense at 10 points each but as an Elf, you're most likely going for that magic science, meaning your tier 2 and 3s will be at 10 Def for quite awhile. I won't talk about attacking with archers because that is stupid but... Riders have the worst tier 3 offensive stats, especially since again, you are probably going magic instead of military science, only widening the gap between you and the other races.

Speaking of magic... They have one of the two most expensive MU, matched only by the Dwarves (How does that even make sense?). That % chance of surviving spells with no damage?

Not. Worth. It.

Not with my luck...

Combined with max % spell chance per spell tiers.

I'm talking about failing magic weapons several times over at its highest % cast bro.

And finally the Arch Mages... I love them for their potential and hate them for gimping all your other units...

By the time... AMs are worth spending gold into for their offensive stats to gold ratio... You have spent time sitting on your ass waiting for 10s/100s of millions of resources to research magic instead of using it to build up your cities... And all the while you are trying to get your magic up, your units with great defensive capabilities are stuck with sticks and stones because you can't afford to rainbow military science into your magic research.

My conclusion basically was that elves are only good if you are in a KD, which means you are basically protected and free to build pretty much just resource/magic cities...

Trying to play elves solo and attempted to make a border for myself (I failed btw) while trying to get my magic up... Just fucking sucked and I won't be doing that again.

It got a bit ranty sorry.


10:54:01 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Try elf as a non magic unit. Think of it as the elf who couldn't get his wand up.


14:24:23 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Nemesis:


Mr. Fecker:

@Hill and Merlin the Maggot ... guys get real... Collectives tactics are nothing but to use sheer weight of numbers based on the kingdoms superior multi coun... I mean total amount of players. Throw enough multi's.. I mean players at the enemy and eventually you are going to have a break through.


The only advantage we have in numbers and we are not supposed to use it cause its unfair? Thats one of most foolish things I've heard in a while... and don't pretend others can not get a large kingdom too, we refused 6-7 people wanting to join, we could easily reach 25. You might say you do not like being in a large kingdom, then don't be in one and play the gamd how you enjoy it. Let other people enjoy the game like they want. 

And don't give me bs about large kds ruining the game, game this low in players benefits from every single soul playing no matter if they are tagless or not. 


14:37:36 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Yes, they do ruin the game. Because the tactic is the same. Pick off the smaller kd's, and avoid the other large kd. Asshat


14:43:02 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Nemesis:

Its like you know you are writing nonsense but you still post it? Pick off smaller kingdoms? When you know we have been fighting Abydos and we help/not attack smaller kingdoms around the map. 

But I am the stup1d one for arguing with you, no wonder people tell me nobody takes you seriously and from now on I will ignore you


15:09:04 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

You took on a kd half your size.

You didnt leave the smaller kd's to fight it out, you avoided Albatross and even shared intel with them. You are pathetic human beings is all. And no doubt, collective will go into hiding again next era, because you getting spanked from the word go. Even this late into the era and your armies are pathetic, considering the amount of farming time you have had.


15:09:54 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Ask Aisha to loosen the grip on your balls a little while you're at it.


16:20:16 Mar 20th 18 - Runelord Arkan (Mr. Arkmage):

I'm in agreement with Bling on the zerging. I've already specifically laid out our 9 active members versus your 18 (16 minus Merlin and Richard) plus Soccer, plus Training Ground.

If you took any basic primary school mathematics that's a Kingdom half your size, to do deny that is a denial of reality.


16:23:00 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Common sense aint so common with this bunch... i think Aisha rectum implants got them all thinking like Bran... renal retentive retards


16:47:26 Mar 20th 18 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Jellybean):

you're annoyed because a bigger KD is winning.. story of my life as a one man KD.


this is the game, there is enough KDs on this map you could have played the game diplomatically and had the upper hand. I fail to see the problem. Stop whining and keep playing, you guys could still win..

I have no idea why Horus is under such an annoying leader, the only reason I don't want conflict with you guys.. 


16:49:22 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

Sprout likes it when horus dresses up in leather and whips him.


16:54:08 Mar 20th 18 - Jack Daniels The drunk (Dragonlord Jack Daniels II):

Because we like the play style in feckers it's not sit on your ass and hide behind numbers. Not one of us has said were gonna lose merely saying that we feel Aisha ruins the spirit of the game with a big kd when every one else is half there size. But I like a challenge so this should be an interesting era


16:55:37 Mar 20th 18 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

It’s strange seeing bling moan about bug abuse 


16:56:13 Mar 20th 18 - Mr. Fecker:

you the only bug I haven't abused yet


17:03:27 Mar 20th 18 - Runelord Arkan (Mr. Arkan The Akkountant):

Forget the diplomacy. If you're playing solo and giving reach arounds to every large kingdom what's the point in playing solo. Coward with a mask of bravery.


17:08:22 Mar 20th 18 - Runelord Arkan (Mr. Arkmage):

Soccer and Collective walking hand in hand, how cute.


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