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pretty much undefended?
1. Mr. Middle Earth has won 72 battles, captured 59 cities and killed a total of 222051 men and women.

how do you think that i come to this amout of kills? (at least 120k troops were killed there...)

well, glad killed 85k ogers (separated in 3 armies) and thats why it was undefended :s

why would yall be scared of a bunch of farmers :o

its an even fight.

MAD might have "farmed"

but rebirth did also, they farmed from others, which gives them even bigger boost :)

Yeah I can't say all the cities we took really helped.

"why would yall be scared of a bunch of farmers :o

its an even fight.

MAD might have "farmed"

but rebirth did also, they farmed from others, which gives them even bigger boost :)"

first of all, we were done with this. so why did u have to bring this crap up again:P?

and a even fight!? last time i checked, 1vs3 is not a even fight xD
i dont care if its even or not, cause thats just VU. but saying it is "even" is a bad attempt to take away our honor in this battle.

and yes, i guess we had a huge benefit from taking armories and bad buildt cities with 7 k buildings in a OOP war:P (irony if someone couldnt tell)

i just had to comment that, cause it was just wrong in so many ways:P

Mr. Middle Earth Report 09:32:23 Jun 21st 09

but now, times have changed... I am training like hell (you will not believe me when I say how much xD) I will show you that I am back ^^

really? because i have seen million men armies and they arent very fun. how much are you making any ways

Gladiatorul... who's defending the blockers? We have like 5 other blockers, there are troops in all of those... Who does magic? I spent a lot of this era casting support magic, unlike previous eras, and that is part of the reason I do not have as many archmages as you. You have no right or reason to attack Rebirth like that, and I would expect you and MAD to be gracious winners.

that wasn't wrong Overcome - you are only blind - you can only see/believe what you think; I guess you are now answering my earlier quiery about how you behave when you lose; you saying you've been fighting so many KDs including FATE; FATE on it's own are fighting many KDs too - and I haven't seen they did any serious damage to your armies so far; also LD has been squizzed earlier by you - they only have few threatening armies - but didn't do big damage either;

so stop crying and admit that MAD is crushing you - and it is doing it very fast; 3 weeks for a large KD such as yours - is fast - I'd say; when we started the war agaist you (and before killing your HoH armies) you were at 120% power of MAD - second KD by power after FATE - I quess you will call me a lier again - as this is specific to your behaviour;

Again, no reason to attack Overcome. When did he call you a liar? Do you claim to know exactly who Fate is fighting? As for MAD, if 3 top KDs are nothing, how many are you taking on? 5? 6? You give poor excuses for the facts we state, and then act the sore winner. Calm down, be nice, and play the game.

Okay, I went back and read the things I missed. No comment on that, let's just finish up.

For your trying to stop: Overcome was addressing LD, and you felt compelled to make a personal attack on him. The post itself was quite humble, I don't see why you had to react that way. That's no reason to call him a "sshheettyy" leader... having helped lead ODC for many eras, and having followed under BoW, Preds, etc., I would say Overcome and the rest of the Rebirth vices do a great job.

And if Fate isn't focusing on Rebirth... do you even see Fant map, btw?... we have Sir Feanor's Bus III army and Chuck Norris's Chuck Norris Lifeguards prepping on our blockers. Both are Fant HoH armies. Shadowcat and Giorgi V also have at least a 50k heading for our blockers. Those are some troops you may not be able to see.

I agree that Middle Earth is an important member, and your main competitor right now, but Rebirth is one of the most balanced kingdoms I have ever been in... this era and the last, I have seen great feats from all its members... many of whom I had initially underestimated. For this reason, I take great offense to your statement that Rebirth is a one man KD. You should choose your words more wisely in the future. 

Let's finish this up once and for all. We can all agree that:

MAD "farmed" more than Rebirth and Rebirth had more OOP wars...
Rebirth, because it took many cities from its wars, also got an income boost.
Because MAD fought less, they were able to muster stronger armies than many of ours.

The explanation for this is simply that we did not properly defend... we were too used to being on the offensive.Thus, we lost our income boost pretty quickly. Now, our core is breached. I would also say that we trained many more level 3s than level 5s this era, which may or may not be a good thing = .

Now that that's cleared up, can we just play the game?

ahem. so Rebirth is an elite kingdom? never heard of that before.

apparently, Rebirth dident have any problem when gang-banging LD with the Majority of the surviving Kingdoms near the end of the era.

Karma is a B!tch

Kill Rebirth

everyone they attacked when they were down last era is enjoying this

sorry Overcome

you did bring this on yourself

I told you I read it all... and so I did. As for the conversation he posted, I don't see why you're so upset.

I'm going to leave it there, because obviously, reasoning with you is a waste of time.

@Strawberry - I wasn't saying we're elite or better than anyone else... I'm saying I personally admire the playing level of many of Rebirth's members... plus I was defending from Glad calling Overcome a bad leader.

lets try this again. starting with whats been said and not whats been made up:

Zonds arguments:
1: "why would yall be scared of a bunch of farmers :o
-my answar: we are not scared, the end =)

2: its an even fight.

-my answar: i dont think its a even fight cause we are fighting MAD and LD that i think both has no other wars, and we are fighting FATE witch has been banbing at our blockers and taken out half of our aera on Fantasia, keeping 3 of our most active and best members busy.(2 on the F HOH) and they also has a major army in our core. however, we DONT complain, we are enjoying our fights (like i stated before) and we're having fun =)

and (copied)
"i dont care if its even or not, cause thats just VU. but saying it is "even" is a bad attempt to take away our honor in this battle."

3: MAD might have "farmed"
but rebirth did also, they farmed from others, which gives them even bigger boost :)"

-my answar(copied from earlier post): yes, i guess we had a huge benefit from taking armories and bad buildt cities with 7 k buildings in a OOP war:P (irony if someone couldnt tell)

i dont care if its even or not, cause thats just VU. but saying it is "even" is a bad attempt to take away our honor in this battle.


Ademo: "Well, you tried to do the same to Yum last era. Karma is a bish :)"
sorry if you feelt it that way, but that was not my intention.

Penguin: so overcome when you will slaughter me allready? you were giving award to me like million times and never came

thats just my way of expressing how much i love u, pingu<3

and Thomas, you're the man (Y)

glad to hear^^ who else are you fighting btw?

@ Overcome - your bitttching style again; biting form asleep asses;

I was wondering how long do you wait to come with an answer - I guess you begged for VU's comunity help; and now here you go;


In answering to your question - 'who else are you fighting btw' - as simple like that.

I have just counted recently - 10-12 people from MAD crushing the large empire of 20 people (with asssets from 28 people plus spoil of war). From those 10-12 MAD players some of them didn't even fight you guys (their armies are almost virgin).

You fighting FATE - ask them if they fight Rebirth - they will say 'yes we do' - but there are other 6 KDs (Aby, Jucy & 4xArma) we are paying more attention than we pay to Rebirth.

So, Overcome - if we were to come with our reserves - which are left home for protection - I am wondering how many weeks you KD would have survived.

You could say only honourable KDs such a MAD - would start fighting 1vs 1 against stronger KDs (you had 120% of our power before the era started).

MAD last era fought 3 wars agaisnt stronger KDs (FATE, F&G and Your), this era again.

What about Rebirth? Last era - Ganbanged 4-5 weaker KDs - if this why we (the VU comunity) should think Rebirth is an elite KD?  I will watch with interest how you KD will perform in the following era - and I want to see if you ever have the strenght to take a 1vs 1 fight on a stronger KD. I bet you won't.

Untill then cry on your wife's sholders, as we had enough of your excuses so far.

Keep your mouth shut and let the KDs Rebirth fought to tell the VU comunity you played a good game. In the last 3 eras - all KDs you won against claimed your victory was not deserved - why do you think would they say that?

Why do you thing MAD would say F&V deserved much more the victory from last era than Rebirth do?

lol, i will get back to you later, Glad. but i suggest you make a new post. cause now your doing it again. "ah yeha, Rebirht ehhh you suck, u say you fight like 3 KD's but you are dying only to us, we are crushing you, we are your god, you stand no chance, yeah oh yeah and yeah"

here is what you do: you copie what i said, then give a direct answar to it. dont try to make it look like we are making excuses, cause we aint. get a hold of yourself and try writing a message without lies, exhagurations, and answars to what i i wrote. and dont make up things xD

cause here is what u do:

"What about Rebirth? Last era - Ganbanged 4-5 weaker KDs - if this why we (the VU comunity) should think Rebirth is an elite KD? "

who are all this KD's xD? you just make up something then argue against it xD

i personly only remember fighting Crazy and LD last era, and we only had like 7-8 maybe 9 players in that world, cause we had no one left to fight:P

Glad, you just dont get it do you? why are you constantly trying to provoke with saying the same old stuff? your obviusly just reading what you want. and yet again you fail to answar directly to my replays.

saying it were 4-5 KD's when it was 2 (LD and Crazy) that is an lie. so dont try to avoid it. u said it was 3, do you consider MAD to be a weak KD?

this is what im talking about and finally you atleast come close to admitting it. you exhagurate and jump your own conclutions all the time. therefor discussing this matters with you makes no sense to me.

all you seem to talk about is how you wipe out our armies, and bragg about yourself. considering we kicked your ass last era, this is getting pretty ridiculus.

"Everytime when you post an answer,  you use either 'lie' or 'lier' - I was surprised innitially when you called me a lier, but now I see you may be thinking everyone is the same as you (it is not always the case - you should know that). I only wrote here facts or my my interpretation of facts; the facts can/could have be proven, while the interpretation can be wrong but that doesn't mean they are lie (example: I told you / your KD, it is time to die - this means in the future - and it did not happen in the past - you would have called me a lier if you didn't die)."

here is where we cant agree. but the example is horrible, cause i cant remember arguing about that:P

when u say there was 4-5 KD's getting gangbanged by us last era. that is a lie, cause its not true. if you mean your taking a wild guess when u say "interpretation" then i could understand it, but it would still be a lie, cause you didnt have any facts to back it up with.

"By the way do you know I already killed about 700k armies from you people? If a medium strenght army is averaging 100k lvl 3 units / man, does it mean I took on my own about 7 Rebirth average players? But look - my mates also have big kills - try to count them to see who killed Rebirth's armies."

i have to ask, why are you telling me this? whats the point?

and finally: you wrote back at 1 of my points, where is the rest?

Gladiatorul, we are on two different worlds. here is my observation:

im trying to solve this fact by fact, using what we know and i dont want to speculate.

you are doing the complete oposite, you are only interessted in showing off your victories agaisnt Rebirth, and tell us that we suck.

u say that i have long post without getting the "main idea" is the main idea to talk trash? cause im not into that. its just frustrating to talk to you, cause the second you dont know what to replay, you talk about something else.

and saying MAD was a weak KD last era is like saying Rebirth is a weak KD this era. and would you get done with last era allready? its like Thomas say, your just pissed of cause we beated back then.

lol, u just cant stop throwing crap at Rebirth? cant u?
your perception of honor is a thing i dont want to discuss;)

General Zondervan Report 16:23:45 Jun 23rd 09

LD is fighting more than just you overcome^^

...that's true you guys are fighting other KD's but we will leave that for another discussion.. :/

Btw, Arthur, I'm Ivan the Archangel/Leon Carnage, if you didn't know ;)

I see your appetite for fun is up, now, Zondervan; why not leave MAD flag alone; this flag brought you hapiness, when you less expected;

lol i didnt mean wat i said in a bad way, you took it the wrong way :P

I don't know glad, those people there are pretty mean :D

Wait so does this mean that all of Rebirth will go to Latha and just own everyone there?

haha, so Sky, are you staying with Rebirth from now on or will you come back to BoW? Cause i hear next era BoW will come back. Just wondering cause it would be awesome to have a BoW era next.