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16:56:09 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Jones:

I'm starting to agree with Sincere about people thinking what they want to, but here's a few things that have happened in our war.

First, Anonymous offered me to bring my best players and merge into his kingdom within 4 or 5 days. I politely declined saying that we should wait until the era is over before we do any merges... so he cancelled the NAP and gave us a period of roughly 90 hours to prepare for war with AoA knowing full well that we had only been fighting DE for less than a week. AoA were already prepared to war us since they had cities near our core that were already HOH cities... meanwhile, no one in our kingdom had the resources to match them, since we have been at war all era while they have been at peace or farming. So we had 3 days to match the weeks of preparations they had made, and of course they started to break through.

After about a day of fighting, Kirta switches over to AoA... she never mentioned anything about being recruited... she just claimed that she "didn't want to fight her brother" and she "didn't think we would understand her actions". When someone suggested that Kirta and Fettvadd our the same person, I watched the way they play, and noticed that they play identically. No 2 players ever play alike, yet they do... which suggests that they are the same person with 2 accounts...

Meanwhile DE has been waiting in the background letting AoA do all the work... DE seems content with third and knowing that they defended their core from only one army that was significantly large enough that they could not destroy it for 4 days IRL... Bravo DE. It's pretty clear that you've been through a lot DE and this so called recruiting hasn't taken place within Silk...

A few questions that should be answered...

1. If Kirta was recruited by AoA, why did she wait so long to switch to them?... She could have switched during the 90 hour period, instead of spying on us for her "brother".

2. If AoA has been recruiting players from Silk, how come no other members switched before or during the war?

3. How does DE think they have accomplished anything against us, when only a few of our members have actually tried to fight them? They couldn't even destroy the army that was at their wall for over half a day (IRL)... all they did was send endless reinforcements into their wall and called back every army that was outside of their core, praying that I wouldn't be able to take it... if one person could cause that much distress to them, imagine what 20 others could have done, had they decided that the imminent threat of AoA attacking was less than the weak attempts of attacking for DE.


17:08:25 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Pan:

wait if kirta's bro is in AOA , how do u know they play the same ?

and how do u know that kirta didnt teach her/his bro how to play ?

stop calling people multi's untill ur 100% sure that they are !


17:35:42 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Jones:

It doesn't matter if they were taught to play by the same person... 2 people always have some differences in their game.

We can see how they play because we could see most of AoA's cities (and all of Fettvadd's). We can also see how they move their armies and when they move them. They always move at about the same time, they appear to buy stuff off of each other on the market (Kirta is a halfling, Fettvadd is a dwarf). They shouldn't be playing the same, and yet they do.

I'm not the only one that thinks they are multi's... most of the players around them think they are and there are too many coincidences to discount the notion that they are brother and sister (or brothers).



17:52:36 Jan 24th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Dear Zeta, another nubish post by Jones... :( ITs sad :P

Lets first start with the part really about DE :)
Ill answer your Q in the mean time ;) Q numebr 3

ABout your army, I told you, I had 14% on your army, without the reinforcements. That means that your army is about 1.5 my armies's strength. So elts say your army had 15OP/DP and I had 10. Then I had 100% wallbonus in the wall, giving me 10OP/20DP. That means that with your 15OP you could not have entered our core or broken trough the wall.
all they did was send endless reinforcements into their wall and called back every army that was outside of their core, praying that I wouldn't be able to take it...
Well, I just kinda answered the "praying" part, we had no reason 2. We did retreat A army, my HoH army. But I did not retreat back because of you, well, I duid because of you but not ebcause of your army. I was 99% sure that youy did use an EITS on my army and thus you had a high enough %, if I were to go further to your core, I might face RoF/Freeze etc. I retreated back to wall, where I had 20k orso mu's waiting. It was only when my army was halfway back, a little more south then Florida(the wall), that your army reached our wall. That is one of the reasons why you were there half a day, it took me a little over half a day to get there AND Dramborleg had send his army, chasing you when you went to Grey Heavens. Even though you killed that army, he did chase you and did not pray for you to not come trough the wall.

 if one person could cause that much distress to them, imagine what 20 others could have done, had they decided that the imminent threat of AoA attacking was less than the weak attempts of attacking for DE.
Dude, you really dont have good eyes do you? Have you seen where AoA is located? Very close to your core. DO you know where we are located? Totally down south, half the map away from your core! IF we would seriously attack, and thus leave our walls practically emtpy, then some of your armies could easily get past our armies, we are with 3 so our armeis are not that numerous... ,go to our core and wreck havoc! It is foolish for us to launch a real assault, and yet, when we did, in the East, we kicked Silk but. Now were doing it again, only a little more North...
So id say that we did accomplish something. We destroyed all your armies, kept you out of our core, while you are 6 times stronger and with 10 times more players, have launched an attack on a little part of your core, and are now attacking again. So id say we did accomplish something :)

2. If AoA has been recruiting players from Silk, how come no other members switched before or during the war?
One week after Nirvana opened Anonymous already said to me that SIlk was a recruiting kd for AoA, new players would join Silk, the council would seek out the best and they would be offered a place in AoA. Several players ahve been offered a place in AoA, and I am 100% sure that some will join. But not just now. Oh no, they would be killed, being located in an around your main core. Kirta had a very good reason to join them, she wouldnt fight her borther/other account, others have one good reason to join: They would join a good and respected kingdom, but if theyd elave now, that would be like suicde. So theyll wait till the end...

Q #1, not my place to answer that nor do I have any cleu why shed do that, unless it was to spy. And besides, I think AoA has been very generous with that 90 hour warning, VERY generous. Mostly the max is 72 hours, sometimes you only get 48, so 90 is really kind. Keep that in mind the next time you call them something ugly, again.

Veni, vidi, scripsi
I came, I saw, I wrote


19:26:13 Jan 24th 08 - Sir Evans:

HERE HERE santa, WELL explained, covers everything :)

counter that one :P


20:08:29 Jan 24th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Man I like flaming :) First topic I always look at when opening VU, is this one :) I just lov it when Silk posts another good reply, sadly, every post has its ugly brother. I like to write that brother :P


20:52:52 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Mcmax:

As former member of Kirta's "Band of Brothers" (neighbour to him/her and Fettvadd when I started in this game) and now a member of SilK, I have seen something, I would call "special".

I need to go in my archives to be sure in what I'm writing, so you have to wait a little time, but some information (not misinformation) will come tomorrow morning (dk-time).


21:43:13 Jan 24th 08 - Sir Dramborleg:

Can someone give me a little update? i've been away for a while (on the forums) so.....

Or is there nothing to tell? just the usually stuff??


21:57:11 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Macdoodle! Scotland?


22:11:01 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Jones:

Wow, Santa that's a long post... and I stopped reading it part way through due to the numerous errors and wrong assumptions you've made. I can't argue facts that you've made up and theirs no point in trying.

I only ask that you don't post unless until you check your facts. This may prevent any further embarrassment to yourself in the future. Thanks.


23:35:09 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

Well it has been a fun era i do have to admit
Lets not be hate'in ppl

Have fun
b happy!!

Live life to the fullest =]
Tongan Boii signing out preety soon
Still not sure bout my future in VU (next era)


23:40:22 Jan 24th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

Oooh i do have 1 thing to add on
I really gotta smere my CRAP on Pan (lolz)

I really hate it when lil "F'ers" come out of no-where and start talkin CRAP on me/my KD/and so on
We know DE does rule and thats un-deniable
So if you would just plz shut ur pie hole Pan
It would be much appreciated

Best regards
Tongan Boii 

(LMFAO AT THIS WHOLE POST)


01:22:40 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Arvious III:

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1/24/2008 3:11:01 PM
Wow, Santa that's a long post... and I stopped reading it part way through due to the numerous errors and wrong assumptions you've made. I can't argue facts that you've made up and theirs no point in trying.

I only ask that you don't post unless until you check your facts. This may prevent any further embarrassment to yourself in the future. Thanks.
Mr. Tongan Boii

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1/24/2008 4:35:09 PM

Well it has been a fun era i do have to admit
Lets not be hate'in ppl

Have fun
b happy!!

Live life to the fullest =]
Tongan Boii signing out preety soon
Still not sure bout my future in VU (next era)

Mr. Tongan Boii

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1/24/2008 4:40:22 PM

Oooh i do have 1 thing to add on
I really gotta smere my CRAP on Pan (lolz)

I really hate it when lil "F'ers" come out of no-where and start talkin CRAP on me/my KD/and so on
We know DE does rule and thats un-deniable
So if you would just plz shut ur pie hole Pan
It would be much appreciated

Best regards
Tongan Boii 

(***** AT THIS WHOLE POST)

 

SilK rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


01:30:56 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Kevdwayne:

W T F


01:34:30 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Might The God of Cows:

Over reacting? I think not! I mean so!


01:58:30 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

Mr. Tongan Boii


1/24/2008 2:40:22 PM

Oooh i do have 1 thing to add on
I really gotta smere my CRAP on Pan (lolz)

I really hate it when lil "F'ers" come out of no-where and start talkin CRAP on me/my KD/and so on
We know DE does rule and thats un-deniable
So if you would just plz shut ur pie hole Pan
It would be much appreciated

Best regards
Tongan Boii 

(LMFAO AT THIS WHOLE POST)

re-posting my post to be last for PAN to see it =]
I mean what i say =]


10:03:05 Jan 25th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Mr. Jones

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1/24/2008 10:11:01 PM
Wow, Santa that's a long post... and I stopped reading it part way through due to the numerous errors and wrong assumptions you've made. I can't argue facts that you've made up and theirs no point in trying.

I only ask that you don't post unless until you check your facts. This may prevent any further embarrassment to yourself in the future. Thanks.
Like...? Be a real leader and show others their mistakes. DOnt jsut say, you made a mistake and dont say where, or didnt I make one?


11:05:40 Jan 25th 08 - Sir Evans:

Sapper II from Mr. Vuck
Swordsmen:24171
Archers:7530
Knights:17253
Magicians:2176
Catapults:938
Peasants:86846

can anyone tell me why those peasents are there? innocent women and children who will die soon


11:09:25 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Haywood Jablowme:

those peasants have a combined def points of 4342 and makes the army move very slow :)


11:10:47 Jan 25th 08 - Sir Evans:

thts why my 100k is keeping up with it.... that and i froze it for 6 ticks :P

serious lack of mages, serious lack of anything really :P except pessies, they cancel out 431 of my warlords


11:38:30 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Penguin:

:D santa : Veni, vidi, scripsi - I came, I saw, I wrote
could u say what Veni vidi vici means? D:


11:39:28 Jan 25th 08 - Sir Evans:

i came, i saw, i conquered

i think :P


12:04:18 Jan 25th 08 - Sir Evans:

VICTORY!

They surrendered. Sir Evans. We have won the battle!

We killed a total of 20155 enemy troops, 33282 peasants and injured 16491 enemy troops.

was 98% :( almost a slaughter

i wanted a slaughter!

 

 


14:26:51 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Mittalmar:

ahh bad luck evans :( now you have to take them again =P


14:28:23 Jan 25th 08 - Sir Evans:

i know, but ill thrash em next time, and it will be 100% :P

i only lost about 3k but my army speed increased as i dropped down a stage :P


16:42:52 Jan 25th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Mr. Penguin

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1/25/2008 11:38:30 AM

:D santa : Veni, vidi, scripsi - I came, I saw, I wrote
could u say what Veni vidi vici means? D:


Litteraly it means I came, I saw, I won/was victorious  but it is ussualy translated with I came, I saw, I conquered. Not a really big difference but still ;)


20:47:40 Jan 25th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

well those pezzies were in his army coz he use the same army to evac both troops and pezzies at the same time....
what an _______

well pan hasn't been on to reply to me yet =[


00:39:10 Jan 26th 08 - Mr. Arvious III:

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1/24/2008 9:56:09 AM
I'm starting to agree with Sincere about people thinking what they want to, but here's a few things that have happened in our war.

First, Anonymous offered me to bring my best players and merge into his kingdom within 4 or 5 days. I politely declined saying that we should wait until the era is over before we do any merges... so he cancelled the NAP and gave us a period of roughly 90 hours to prepare for war with AoA knowing full well that we had only been fighting DE for less than a week. AoA were already prepared to war us since they had cities near our core that were already HOH cities... meanwhile, no one in our kingdom had the resources to match them, since we have been at war all era while they have been at peace or farming. So we had 3 days to match the weeks of preparations they had made, and of course they started to break through.

After about a day of fighting, Kirta switches over to AoA... she never mentioned anything about being recruited... she just claimed that she "didn't want to fight her brother" and she "didn't think we would understand her actions". When someone suggested that Kirta and Fettvadd our the same person, I watched the way they play, and noticed that they play identically. No 2 players ever play alike, yet they do... which suggests that they are the same person with 2 accounts...

Meanwhile DE has been waiting in the background letting AoA do all the work... DE seems content with third and knowing that they defended their core from only one army that was significantly large enough that they could not destroy it for 4 days IRL... Bravo DE. It's pretty clear that you've been through a lot DE and this so called recruiting hasn't taken place within Silk...

A few questions that should be answered...

1. If Kirta was recruited by AoA, why did she wait so long to switch to them?... She could have switched during the 90 hour period, instead of spying on us for her "brother".

2. If AoA has been recruiting players from Silk, how come no other members switched before or during the war?

3. How does DE think they have accomplished anything against us, when only a few of our members have actually tried to fight them? They couldn't even destroy the army that was at their wall for over half a day (IRL)... all they did was send endless reinforcements into their wall and called back every army that was outside of their core, praying that I wouldn't be able to take it... if one person could cause that much distress to them, imagine what 20 others could have done, had they decided that the imminent threat of AoA attacking was less than the weak attempts of attacking for DE.

Kirta could be a double OR she could be giving orders to her brother on what to do (which would be very hard because siblings can bearly get along)

:-)


13:45:16 Jan 26th 08 - Mr. Ancient Mirage:

kirta is a guuuuuuuuuuy , dont u guys read. i posted it before they are both males . anonymous told me this , so i think its a fact .


19:01:13 Jan 26th 08 - Mr. Fettvadd:

First of Kirta is a male. Don't ask me why he is a female in game.
And the reason why he joined Silk and not AoA right away was because kevdwayne recruited him at the same time as Anonymous recruited me. At the time, we thought it was no big deal since AoA and Silk were allies. Then when the war was announced I pushed him to join AoA instead. Yes, he did join a bit too late (wich was a mistake). But he did not spy on you. And for the multi-account- accuses, that is pure bull*beep*. Yes we make plans together and coordinate our attacks. Would you not do it if you meet eachother everyday? But we do not log in on eachothers accounts and we do not buy stuff from eachother on the market and we do not have the same playing style. That is all i have to say


19:09:44 Jan 26th 08 - Mr. Kevdwayne:

And that, thankfully settles that argument.


20:00:55 Jan 26th 08 - Mr. Mcmax:

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1/26/2008 7:01:13 PM
First of Kirta is a male. Don't ask me why he is a female in game.
And the reason why he joined Silk and not AoA right away was because kevdwayne recruited him at the same time as Anonymous recruited me. At the time, we thought it was no big deal since AoA and Silk were allies. Then when the war was announced I pushed him to join AoA instead. Yes, he did join a bit too late (wich was a mistake). But he did not spy on you. And for the multi-account- accuses, that is pure bull*beep*. Yes we make plans together and coordinate our attacks. Would you not do it if you meet eachother everyday? But we do not log in on eachothers accounts and we do not buy stuff from eachother on the market and we do not have the same playing style. That is all i have to say

Now Fettvadd, that's post is quite interesting. I had a few days ago "promised" to come with my opinion/observations - but work have taken just too much of my sparetime...... I will "come after it" though.

And just in case some i AoA think, they have a scoop/breaking news about me and possible defection to someone else kingdom. You don't have.


21:25:41 Jan 26th 08 - Mr. Kevdwayne:

Mr Mcmax,  I do not believe there is any question as to your loyalty... and if there is then they do no know you, as you are above reproach... I stand beside you as a friend and an ally.


23:54:04 Jan 26th 08 - Ms. Kirta:

I think my brother nailed it =)


As for the "Ms" part: I like my name which I made up myself and I made it up for a Female character. And frankly who wanna name a male "Kirta"?


23:54:06 Jan 26th 08 - Ms. Kirta:

Bah hit the button twice cuz of slow internet :D


10:16:29 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Evans:

and silk say they dont cheat



10:16:46 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Evans:

hmm bit small can anyone make bigger?

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/937/silkcheatsyw4.png


10:18:14 Jan 27th 08 - Mr. Wraithish:

Hey dont blame all of Silk for 1 or two *beep*s   : (


10:18:51 Jan 27th 08 - Mr. Wraithish:

Why is idi0t censored??


10:25:08 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Evans:


10:25:31 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Evans:

and ok i blame jones! he built 90% of the walls


11:50:25 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

lol, Jones build those walls on the picture...


19:37:46 Jan 27th 08 - Mr. Jones:

It wouldn't have been possible had it not been for you Evans... you destroy the original wall city, so I built another wall in its place... and there is a clear entry past the wall where Silk Sidewalk is. You could have left my walls alone Evans, but you chose to destroy them and allow me to build crosswalls. You are the sole reason I'm able to build them, and I thank you for willingly helping me out when none of my other enemies would.


19:52:44 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

"but you chose to destroy them and allow me to build crosswalls. You are the sole reason I'm able to build them,"

Did you ever heard of the function: Destroy buildings? It destroys the buildings in a city and it can be sued to entirely destory the entire city.
Crosswalling is illegal. YOu now make it sound like this:
If you attack the enemy's defencive system that you force them to use illegal tactics.
Seems like there something wrong in that...


20:04:22 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Evans:

owned again jones, give up stop cheating and fight like a man !


20:33:24 Jan 27th 08 - Mr. Mcmax:

Now if those walls was cheating or not.... they were builded long time ago.

And just as they delay DE armies to get to Silk areas, they delay SilK-members to reach DE.

So.......... both parts have both positive and negative advantages in those walls.

 


21:04:26 Jan 27th 08 - Mr. Kevdwayne:

Good point (s) Mcmax


21:09:28 Jan 27th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

However, we are not the defending side anymore. But thats not the point, the point is whether those walls are illegal and Silk thus used cheats, or not.

Any comment Jones?


22:08:17 Jan 27th 08 - Mr. Jones:

It's not cheating if there's access to every area. I have never made it impossible to get into any area in the map, so it's not cheating. The purpose of walls is to slow down an opponent or force them to pass through a single point... this wall fulfills both purposes.

So to repeat, since I don't think DE understands... it's not cheating if you still have access to every part of the map. If you don't want to go the long way around everytime, don't destroy my original walls.


23:00:23 Jan 27th 08 - Mr. Arvious III:

Who got told NOW!?!

:-)


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