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3/2/2009 2:06:10 PMNormally I would agree Frank however different strokes for different folks, in Dark Vices can act as long as theyve cleared it first. I spoke to some guy named Ninja and IPF attacked our eastern border long before we were even aware of who they were. thats not dishonourable as its a war game.

Sighs...read that back to yourself slowly and see where you have just contradicted yourself.

Do I sound like the type of leader that needs other people talking for me.

*Facepalms*

yes they did, and spoon is a nub anyway, its prolly all farmers.

heh,  slaves for hanky panky. 

Where are the Dark infidels?

Spoon ... sugar doesn't belong in spaghetti sauce.. I wants my gummi bears back! :p

Everyone here is NAPed...I wonder why it is quiet? Peace anyone? Or possibly going to lower worlds to bash nubs? 2-4M incomes maybe.

aint gonna be any tears coming from spaghetti's eyes

Dark is getting war more war now :P

I mean, Dark is having another multiple war era again:

- Mad Against Drugs (MAD)
- Revelation (RVL)
- Elemental Graveyard (Grave)

who are you ? im just curious if you are one of the turds who was mouthing off last era as well.

Told you enough about Dark? What does that mean? What exactly is your problem?

Did these magical little sources clue you in to the fact that well over half of Dark are first era nubs with barely half a clue of how things work? That we also have some fairly inactive people? We have also had a major leadership overhaul mid-era and are still learning how to work together. Heaven forbid we should actually try to recruit people into the game, give them a basic idea of how to play and try to incorporate their available playtime into a viable role within the Kingdom.

We had 3 wars straight OOP, that coupled with the nub factor did take a while to recover from and at the time we NAP'd people just to survive. Since all of those NAPs are full era ones, we had to go elsewhere in search of enemies.
We did actually start fighting MAD on Zeta when they expanded into the south and pushed them back to Mant... Except of course the ones hiding behind Mayhem blockers. Our RVL war is also being fought on Zeta, right on our core border.

What it boils down to, though, is that you are free to play however you want and we have the exact same right. 3 KDs attacked us OOP this era, be curious to see how many it will be next era (if we stay around at all!) :P

Regret what actions exactly? You are speaking nonsense.

It's hardly an excuse, merely an attempt at an explanation for those who have no idea what's going on. Not that we have to justify anything to the likes of you. You clearly seem to know everything, however, so i'll stop bothering on that front . Too bad we can't all be as clever as you! *vomit*

You seem to have conveniently skipped over the leadership issue. Everything you've mentioned has been the subject of discussion within Dark for the latter half of this era. Things will change, though whether Dark stays Dark next era is yet to be decided.. I for one, being new to Dark and VU in general, as well as a Vice, don't really wish to carry all this bullsh*t into the next era.

"You NAP every KD but two on a world then farm and send members to attack lower worlds as well as newly restarting KDs on upper worlds."
(yea i dunno how to do the quote stuff, get over it :P)

Newly restarting KDs? You talking about FF? After breaking NAP last era (i dunno much about that as i wasnt around!) and attacking us OOP this era, you get what you deserve :) You talk about actions having consequences, maybe you should apply that to yourself as well.

Ok, your responses are getting a bit confusing with references to "that" and "you".. I'm not sure what exactly each sentence is referring to or in response to so i'm really not going to waste anymore time trying to figure it out. Have fun with your little "plan". :)

Actually, i have very little idea of what's gone on in this past.

If you want an actual conversation, feel free to PM me (or not i don't really care), i'm done with the message board/political crap that's going on here for the benefit of the rest of VU to read.

I've said it once and ill say it again dark is a pathetic kd that cant even be nap partners right

Saint Lucises Lavour Leon
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3/11/2009 3:37:13 PM

anyone can NAP then drop tags and betray another like you have vapour.

aw..... is this how you will defend it?

Mr. Rather

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3/11/2009 8:39:59 AM

To be honest, i think it is a pretty good comeback against vapor. anyone can be a massive douche and build up hundreds of troops at the boarder to a NAPed kd's core and then decide to leave their kd and attack, it is dishonourable, conveniently just after a load of troops were moved from the northern blockers to help at another boarder, must just be a coincidence i guess! I hope your 240k axemen decide to turn on you and anally rape you Mr. Vapor!!

SHUP NUB

See i have heard MANY!! Disturbing things about Dark.. and honestley Vapor is good in my books now.. Some of the things they have done or thought about are just messed up.. so lets see if they like it happening to them

*Goes back to lead his troops on the battlefield after reading the last page of this flame-infested topic*

Mr. Rather Report 3/11/2009 11:23:15 AM

i honestly dont know what people's problem with dark is in the past but i know for a fact that a lot of the members of dark havent even played with dark before and so you are just being rediculous as i bet that a lot of the people you have heard this messed up things about are problem the same sort of people that are doing these things now and are problem not even with dark!

You must be kept in the "dark." I have heard from HONORABLE people, not KD hoppers, backstabbers, etc, so you cannot even attempt to discredit them.  They casually come to me, pissed off with this game because of these things that are happening.  I wouldn't even need to reveal them because next era the wheels will turn and then everyone will show their intentions. 

It is the Dark leadership that has pissed off many people.  The members are still learning the game or don't even know everything that is going on.  Most have never even looked at the forums.  They know what the leadership tells them.  Otherwise they are just following orders.  I cannot think of them as being bad unless I was given proof otherwise.  So far I have just seen the leadership.  Since you are not part of it, please don't defend the KD as a whole, defend the nonleaders.

I have to say I agree with Slade for the first time in history.
-Waits for hell to freeze over-

Can i just ask then, what exactly have the leadership of dark done wrong? Just so i know!!
I -am- defending the members of the kingdom, especially the ones who have only spent this era with dark, who like myself (most i think), do not know of any of the dishonerable going-ons, as we personally havent witnessed it!

however it doesnt matter what dark did in the past, i still believe that Vapor is wrong to do what he has done, it is both cowardly and dishonerable and is also just pathetic really, it just shows that he cant actually fight us, he has to attack us after leaving a naped kd in what we considered to be a 'safe' area when 95% of our troops were elsewhere and the timing is suspicious as he attacked soon after we moved troops from our northern blockers to help in the south.

  I'm rooting for Vapor :)