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Fantasia Age 3
06:32:52 Nov 6th 10 - Mr. Aloysius:

To Relentless kingdom... do you have any reasonable explanation regarding armageddon casting? The winner of Fantasia is still not decided. lame era.


06:41:40 Nov 6th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Idk :S

But nice army aloy ;)


07:09:46 Nov 6th 10 - Mr. Doobhammer:

bla bla bla, people love trying to have excuses against the top dogs.... just take it like the 2nd, 3rd, or whatever place you are.... lol


10:02:10 Nov 6th 10 - Mr. Tyrgalon:

This arma is way to early...


11:34:42 Nov 6th 10 - Lord Denonia:

Another stupid era seems to be going toward its end. I must say that i am pretty impressed by Zetas game destructive updates. Last time i quit i didnt think it would be possible to make the game worse than it was, but Zeta found ways. The game as it stands now is completely destroyed. The ONLY reason i have for playing is friends who plays the game. The game itself has nothing to offer in game play any longer. 


I seriously wonder how many ppl still plays becusae of the game and who actually just sticks arround becuase of the ppl. It is all very sad in my opinion. 

I am not Angry Deno or anything, just Sad Deno that a game once great now completely lost its soul. 


13:45:54 Nov 6th 10 - Chancellor Ademo:

I came back this era to give it another go. Sad to see it's still full of little fuckheads. Great job on the Arma, fucking awesome era. Not.


16:13:00 Nov 6th 10 - Mr. Arkantos:

"This arma is way to early..."


go destroy the city then :P


17:17:49 Nov 6th 10 - Mr. Tyrgalon:

theres something that prevents us from doing that lol :P


17:26:32 Nov 6th 10 - Mr. Doobhammer:

"I am not Angry Deno or anything, just Sad Deno that a game once great now completely lost its soul. "

Deno, you're always angry at something..... :P And my bad for my rude comments last night, came back from wedding rehearsal and was kind of drunk..... lol


18:23:59 Nov 6th 10 - General of The Orcs:

This era was a farm off for the relentless vs mad/anarchy. Its actually getting exciting now.


18:25:17 Nov 6th 10 - Mr. Aloysius:

01:23:59 Nov 7th 10 - General of The Orcs:

This era was a farm off for the relentless vs mad/anarchy. Its actually getting exciting now.

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lol


18:26:41 Nov 6th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Dont you laugh to hard aloy :P

Ill be back in teh core! no worries :D


11:01:58 Nov 7th 10 - Duke Random:

VICTORY!

Your Grace.

We have burned and destroyed Active Nextera.

We killed all of the 0 troops.
chance=100

dice=65.89001




HAHAHAHAHAHHA


11:18:14 Nov 7th 10 - Lord Denonia:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Kai is my hero :-D


16:09:30 Nov 7th 10 - Mr. Stormcrow:

HA! guess it was a joke..one would expect some troops in there:P


22:38:11 Nov 7th 10 - Mr. Barny The Inactive:

This was a consequence of inactivity, not poor planning. To give you some perspective, this is the first time I have even logged in since casting the spell; which was over 2 days ago.

I'm not surprised Random made a forum post about it. Every time Random has won an in-game battle against me for the last 5+ eras, he has made a forum post.

I can't say anything now without revealing too much, hell; even this statement is probably too ambiguous. I will explain when the era is over why I don't really mind that this happened, but in hindsight it wont be nearly as humiliating as it might seem now.We didn't intend for Kai to raze the city, but this really isn't a setback. It had enough GT to prevent a non-Orc scout from taking the city.

The reason it didn't have troops is because I just qued troops up in a city that was not full productivity and did not even have armorys. Was that something I would normally do? Of course not, because I could easily just path a scout somewhere, log back in in a few ticks when it gets there, settle a city and build some homes, then train a few troops into that. The problem was that I am unable to log in more than once in every few days now, so I opted to take the lazy path.

Anyways, the troops started coming out like 4 or 5 ticks after the MU. 2 ticks after Armageddon was cast, I had troops. Normally, I would have obviously pathed the troops to the armageddon city, and problem solved; no one would have been able to take it. That was the original plan, obviously. If I didn't think I could have troops, I would messaged a kingdom member to do it. I ended up not having internet at the next place I went (I am in Germany this era, thus the huge inactivity); so I couldn't log in for TWO FUCKING DAYS.

I wasn't actually worried. When I cast the spell, there was not a single Orc scout nearby in my LoS (the only scouts I would be worried about, but of course; they can move from far out of my LOS and still reach the city in the 50+ ticks I was away) or army close enough reach me in 2 days. Of course, I didn't plan on leaving it so vulnerable.


Long story short: Good job, you had good timing and I was unlucky and inactive; it wasn't a mistake I made. I will go back to stomping you noobs in a few days when I am back in the US and can actually log on more than once every few days. In the mean time, you can continue to shower the forums with your delicious Fate tears about how the game sucks because someone cast Armageddon. In the next few days, I will give you something to cry about.


09:24:47 Nov 8th 10 - Duke Random:

Jesus fucking christ, write a novel next time.

I just posted because I found it funny that not one person defended the arma city.

Don't go on an emo rant about "me posting every time I beat you" because essentially, you can only win when you're fighting trash or in an extremely advantageous position and/or cheating and even then you have a shit hard time doing it.

BY THE WAY. your build queue in relation to your land size suggests that you weren't inactive at all. You would've have had no more than 102 buildings in the city at the most as the spell was cast when the city was 1 building. when i burned it there were +200 buildings, so you must have logged in several times to build to that level. which means you had a great deal of opportunity to send troops or get someone else to put something in the city. sounds a bunch like poor planning to me.

Also....  there was 1 GT in the city, almost any scout could have taken the city. I just managed to get there first.


10:02:42 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Barny The Inactive:

I make long posts. Deal with it.


I win when I am not in advantageous positions. I win all the time. Just because I ALWAYS win when I have the advantage isn't a bad thing. Besides, I don't always play in the biggest or best kingdoms, but I always create an advantage for myself. I don't cheat either, I could if I wanted to; I know more exploits than anyone; and I don't use them. In fact, I have never even captured a single city from inactive kingdom members EVER; my VU ethics are always spotless; even if the kingdoms I play in aren't. Stop pulling things out of your ass.

I "would've have had" more than 102 buildings, and I did, because I settled the city LONG in advance. I built up MT, and after the spell went off I built up the other GT and walked away. You see, if half or more of the buildings in a city are MT then you will get the maximum +50% modifier to magic power. Because of this, it is best to cast Armageddon from a city composed entirely of MT (for magic power) with minimal total buildings (for less magic resist). I know you know this, because I know you are a good player.

It was inactivity, not poor planning. You tried it again just now. I've been able to access VU all day today since I first got on, if it would have worked twice when I have been at the computer; that would have been poor planning.

Here is a simple example of why the initial loss can be attributed to inactivity:

I have MU in the area. I also have access to the spell "Freeze", and a few thousand MU and MT in one of my cities in case something like this were to happen. You know, good planning. If I were able to log in, I would have seen the scout and frozen it (or just pathed the troops meant to defend the city in the first place). I couldn't log in, thus inactivity was the issue.

I would rather just drop the issue.


10:42:24 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Von Darkmoor:

But there is still no reasonable explanation as to why you have cast it, there is no proven winner of the era and still alot of strong KD's with the ability to win. With the KD's left there would still be alot of interesting wars to be had which could go either way.

If you are happy to win on points and because of extra players fair enough but surely there can be no satisfaction from the win and you cannot claim a war victory over the KD's you have not fought. For example you are 5.52% on average for each of your 23 players, we are 5.88% for each of our 17.

I'm not trying to start a flame as I have no interest in that, but I am just baffled why you would want to cast arma now :P

In the last few era's no one even cares who wins, it doesnt have the prestige it once had because the games gone so far down hill and a points and numbers win seems pointless when we could have a great war and maybe even some fun for a change :P

As i say i'm not trying to argue just trying to understand as in my eyes this era is probably only halfway through if that :(


13:30:56 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Knighteous:

surely the winners should be the last kd standing on the map, still to many standing in my opinion so arma is to early


13:38:15 Nov 8th 10 - Toaster Struddle:

Well the reason why they casted arma (that I can figure) is they believed that they could take out us and MAD.  They did gain quite a bit of ground against us, but MAD stepped in when we began our counter attack and we've begun to push them back.  Gotta love good teamwork!


14:25:55 Nov 8th 10 - Ms. Blueskies:

i agree that Arma is too soon because there is a lot of strong KD's left. and winning on point basis alone is not so convincing.

however, this is all part of the game. so we just have to accept it. ;-)

sigh! i hope zeta makes it harder to cast arma next time. ;-(

that is if he is still reading our post!! ;-(


15:18:04 Nov 8th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Noo struddle!! its called good farming all era by a lot of people lol. :P


17:23:21 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Barny The Inactive:

I agree that casting Armageddon now is pretty lame, considering that the era is practically just beginning and nothing is decided.


However, there really isn't anything that anyone can do. It pretty much guarantees us a win. If we were to suddenly massacre MAD and Anarchy, I could just destroy the MT in the city by fail casting and cancel Armageddon. If MAD and Anarchy pushed us out of their core and were rapidly gaining ground as our power % declined, then I could let Armageddon go through and my kingdom would still win it's first era win. If you pump score so your kingdom takes the #1 spot, then Armageddon gets cancelled. You can't win unless you stop the spell yourself, and that won't happen because the map is too big. There is also the personal reason that I was not active this era, and I get back to the USA in about 3 days; and I want to start a new era as soon as possible.

I play so my kingdom wins, and this is a way to guarantee a win. The 10,000 unit map for Fantasia is complete fucking bullshit, and this demonstrates why. I could have done the Armageddon in the furthest upper right corner of the map, but I didn't have to. The map is too big, you can't stop it.

The current metagame in VU is that if you want to win Fantasia, you either need to have a presence everywhere on the 10,000 unit map; or you need to be the one to cast Armageddon. 


20:16:44 Nov 8th 10 - Ms. Elf:

I just noticed that the top 7 on the HOH are from 7 different KDs:



Mr. Bruiantt
Member of: Anarchy.

The Pump
Member of: Relentless.

Mr. Adventurer
Member of: Small Kingdom.

Mr. Frerrro
Member of: iPwN.

Lord Muse
Member of: The Unbreakables.

Puppetmaster Greymouse
Member of: Dominion.

Mr. Urkel
Member of: Mad and Dangerous.


20:29:51 Nov 8th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Sad part...all good players so hard to say who will win.


20:38:35 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Tyrgalon:

Thats what makes it interesting :)


20:44:12 Nov 8th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Im putting my vote on middle earth


20:48:22 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Tyrgalon:

Lets hope so, that would mean TU does well if muse wins :P


21:40:17 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Rhys Abound Adventure Awaits:

Sounds like Barny just declared a farm off for the win :D  Go Go Farmers :D

Last I heard from ZeTa (back in the era Zond cast it), casting Arma doesn't guarantee the kingdom the win it just ends the world.

Ty get playing EIEIO FTW ;)


22:34:02 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Pure The Nub:

Rhys, The player who is on top of the HOH list wins XD.


Also muse could fall and Tiberius could take over and become number 1. I can see a few MAD members being high on the list since we are in unbreakables core.


22:39:07 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Rhys Abound Adventure Awaits:

Pure I know that :p  I've been around for awhile now :p  Are you the same Pure that Rebirth killed back in Era 43 or something?

Barney was talking old days (not ancient days that we gnu bees can't remember) when there was the individual and kingdom win that would greet you while waiting for the new era to start.  There still is the kingdom win it just doesn't show up anymore :p

My $$ is on Mr. Adventurer of Small Kingdom ftw


22:40:53 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Kasakasz The Mad:

why wont all kds in fantasia dont attack relent? this arma is annoying >.<


22:43:09 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Bonecollector:

I just noticed that nr.1 and nr 2 Most fearsome are of the same kingdom.

  1. Mr. Bonecollector has won 93 battles, captured 73 cities and killed a total of 2095799 men and women.
  2. Mr. Adventurer has won 53 battles, captured 55 cities and killed a total of 1639865 men and women.


22:56:22 Nov 8th 10 - Ms. Mousike:

Stop collecting bones and get farming ;)

<3


23:18:59 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Barny The Inactive:

I need to end the era before Bonecollector 1-ups what I did last era!


But in all seriousness, the player who wins probably won't be someone who "deserves" it. There has been a 300 tick advanced warning that the era is about to end. There is a good chance that the winner is going to be someone who has farmed all era, and is now just storing up resources to pump low level troops for score in order to win the era. If that isn't the case, then it will be someone who has an army (even if they have yet to do anything significant with it) who is now hoarding resources to spend on low level troops for score.

Either way, it will probably be someone who diverges significantly from what would be considered effective play, in the interest of acquiring personal score points to win the era.

This is a kingdom based game, and as I have said before I place no value whatsoever on the individual win. The kingdom win is far more important. I don't define a kingdom's success by winning or losing, I define it by being successful and playing well. In the current state of affairs, success for Relentless will, in fact, be winning the era. Even with our member count, things are surprisingly balanced; because we are fighting MAD and Anarchy; both of which are focusing solely on us (as far as I know, at least).

If the era were to continue, it's hard to say who would win. Relentless may be in Anarchy/MAD's wide open core and taking their cities; but it's still a very even fight. If Armageddon didn't exist, I think that Dominion would win the era; because they are in an ideal position both in terms of location and political affiliation. This era/age has been surprisingly well matched. After last era, I feared that Fantasia would be horrible forever; but that is not the case.


23:21:38 Nov 8th 10 - Mr. Barny The Inactive:

On a side note, I like how players are starting to actually pick Orc. I get a lot of questions about game mechanics and my opinion on racial balance, and I have thought that Orc is one of the strongest races in the game right now; especially on Fantasia. Still, barely anyone ever picks it; but this era I am seeing a lot more of them.


02:40:02 Nov 9th 10 - Duke Random:

sooooo..... zond is going to win via farming/feeding/multi's. 


Thats the person that's going to win who doesn't deserve it amirite? 


02:55:52 Nov 9th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Gotf please. Havent fed or multied. I am here because i can play this game.

Go else where with your non sense.

Yes i farmed some (got banned so had no choice duh).

But as for a farming win, look at the other kds. I wont point out players. But we all know who.

And you just believe what your told just like everyone. So honestly dont care. Complain when i kick your ass, other than that. Shut your trap and play the game.


04:05:24 Nov 9th 10 - Duke Random:

lol I call bullshit.

I heard from someone I know and trust in relentless that you were multi'ing and feeding and that you were even stupid enough to put your email address to your multi's name on the KD page..... and why else would you be banned if you weren't multi'ing? please please make it clear WHY you were banned if you weren't doing anything wrong...?

Even if you did manage to "kick my ass" it'd mean nothing with your cheating.


Explain who's farming for a win then? Sure isn't us.


04:29:58 Nov 9th 10 - Mr. Radioactive:

i thought this zondywtf retard was quitting few eras before ?


04:42:14 Nov 9th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Lol and you think i care what anyone else says? hahaha

And i was banned just like half vu was. So go take it up with everyone :)

Oh yeah, because i have to cheat to win. Good excuse. No worries.

I have friends and they know who to believe. So all good.


Oh and yes WAS. But friends and other reasons i stayed.

Nice chatting with you. And ill probably be kdless next era. So no worries, when i kick your asses. Dont make up reasons once again.


04:48:32 Nov 9th 10 - Ms. Sexy Minx:

lol thats because half of VU ARE multi's.

You still never gave me a clear reason why you were banned. It's an automatic sweep, so you had to have been doing something to get picked up in the first place.

Nice chatting with you. And a few of my accounts will probably be kdless early next era. So no worries, when i kick your asses. Dont make up reasons once again

Fixed it for you :)


04:52:59 Nov 9th 10 - Ms. Arielle Kebbel:

Zondy, as a guide I assume you only know the answers to a few questions, so I'll throw some softballs up for ya...


1) If I was going to use a proxy, which would be the best to use?  (though, I guess since you got caught, your's was not that great...hmmm)

2) What would be the best combo of acc'ts I should have my "friends" sign up for to make the best feeding system?


04:55:42 Nov 9th 10 - General of The Orcs:

You must all have no lives. Seeing how my roommate was playing and i had picture and chat proof.

Ive never used proxies. So all good.


04:58:33 Nov 9th 10 - Ms. Sexy Minx:

You talk to yourself?


04:58:54 Nov 9th 10 - Ms. Mousike:

Zond, you're pals with ZeTa and you still have your General title so which one of your accounts got banned? Yeah everybody knows you are doing it and ZeTa isn't doing sh!t about it so you might as well just admit it and stop denying or deleting posts about it.


I for one never got banned, my sponsored account got deleted (in error because I couldn't delete all those characters I was testing out when the multi character feature was added and Zeta was suppose to delete the characters I could not and not my account) and then restored (albeit with a new title and not my Endless title)... so you were saying you got banned why? :p


05:07:15 Nov 9th 10 - Mr. Narcissus:

Please, Zondervan is a skilled player. Just because him and his kingdom and room-mate outstrategized you doesn't mean you have to complain all over the forums.


Zondervan - good job, keep up the brilliant work my friend.


05:11:19 Nov 9th 10 - General of The Orcs:

Just because you get banned doesnt mean you lose your title.. I got unbanned because i had PROVE i wasnt multing. Reason i still have the general title and have a The title.

And nice to see you too endless :)

But, funny how im doing great and everytime i am im blamed for cheating. Gotta love babies.


05:11:47 Nov 9th 10 - Ms. Mousike:

btw... who is this joker, anybody know?

I was never in your kingdom and I doubt Pengy was either 

ps - I'm not crying I'm just bored :p

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