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Fantasia era of Mzzery
22:29:53 Jan 29th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

But seeing we are now fighting i think every top power, and fixing to die by fate and mad. their honestly was no point. Fate and MAD worked for our cities and deserve them. Instead you guys attack and are gonna get them.

Im sorry, but thats wrong, way wrong.


22:31:50 Jan 29th 10 - Lady Katie Holmes:

Domi shoulda worn a condom, then you wouldn't catch STDs!


22:36:53 Jan 29th 10 - Mr. Super Saiyan:

it is ok Zond, no one deserves our cities really, but it is unfortunate they wouldnt spare us considering how many fights we have and how many people from domination are actually alive to fight lol.

oh well that is how this game goes i guess.

 


22:40:04 Jan 29th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

very true, but either way. id rather fate or mad have them knowing they weakened us. not hiv. therefore, they deserve more than hiv.

but no matter, im waiting.


23:20:04 Jan 29th 10 - Lord Deno Pan:

We dont have less wars than you do Saiyan. We just win ours. Sorry if it sounds like an insult. It isnt meant that way. We do realise you have some good players who are holding strong. But all in all we got plenty of wars as well.


23:21:20 Jan 29th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

But you guys are doing well, we made a mistake and one block wasnt good. we lost everything. Now we get going again just to be gangbanged even worse.


23:30:37 Jan 29th 10 - Lord Deno Pan:

Ehh, we made the same mistake. We had half of RVL sitting in our core a few weeks ago. Its hard to make blockers that works on this map. 


00:36:32 Jan 30th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

But you guys could turn it round :P

i hrdly believe me and a couple others can beat back fate, mad, and hiv


05:21:49 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Legna Van Hteaed:

We got what 4-5 people truely alive and kicking XD


05:37:07 Jan 30th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

if that lol


07:18:54 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Doomhammer:

Yeah, but HIV has me, and I'm like worth negative 20 people with all the stupid sh*t I do....


07:29:47 Jan 30th 10 - Ms. Black Mamba:

Fate has me, and I'm worth like 30 extra people.


08:57:34 Jan 30th 10 - Pirate Candybeard:

You (1/25/2010 11:30:32 AM)
yea i see them, they are next. but cleaning up here. and doms starta core is about gone, but we still have an awesome force on the move, anything can happen. though i only have a couple production cities from oop there anyways. my rest are sprend everywhere since we picked so many fights lol
Lord Deno Pan (1/25/2010 12:04:05 PM) GOOD BAD
yeah we allready talked about, that we dont want to war y ou guys as you have to many wars allready as it is hehe. Looks like you got some realy strong ppl going still though.

 

 

 

That's why my guys are a bit upset.


09:30:33 Jan 30th 10 - Loser The Born Loser The Enforcer:

Upset that you are warring too many kingdoms or that HIV won't war you?


09:38:44 Jan 30th 10 - Pirate Candybeard:

upset that they said they wouldn't war us and than when we took our troops away from them theey attacked :/

 

I'm not saying it was official, I'm just saying... It's a bit anoying..


09:39:32 Jan 30th 10 - Loser The Born Loser The Enforcer:

*shrug*


11:18:59 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Gauntlet:

It's not usually the HIV Leadership who want to war this or that alliance, it's the rank & file who are battle crazed...


11:26:47 Jan 30th 10 - Duke Random:

FANTASIA SUCKS!


12:13:00 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Qassim:

You (1/25/2010 11:30:32 AM)
yea i see them, they are next. but cleaning up here. and doms starta core is about gone, but we still have an awesome force on the move, anything can happen. though i only have a couple production cities from oop there anyways. my rest are sprend everywhere since we picked so many fights lol
Lord Deno Pan (1/25/2010 12:04:05 PM) GOOD BAD
yeah we allready talked about, that we dont want to war y ou guys as you have to many wars allready as it is hehe. Looks like you got some realy strong ppl going still though.

 

 

 

That's why my guys are a bit upset.



i totally agree with that :(


13:58:20 Jan 30th 10 - Lord Deno Pan:

It looks in this thread like i have been in messages with Pirate Candybeard. I will take a strong distance from that. I have never sent or recieved a single msg from Pirate. Also i have never asked for any official CF or NAP with Domination. We have also not received any official requests for any CF or NAP with Domination. I am not speaking down to you, but this is the official list of leaders and vices through the in game list


Leaders



 I dont know a single of theese ppl and have never done any in game msging with any of theese ppl. 

Also. I have done a fair deal of neogotiating for nap and CFs in this game. 
Lets say in theory that i send a msg to one of your members (a member that isnt a leader) that we are not planning to attack you.  
Lets furthermore assume that you dont give any response to that unofficially or officially. 
Then for all i know you might be planning to attack us, and laughing your asses off that we werent planning to attack you. 

So please before you start hanging me out for something i didnt do. Learn to Diplo. 


15:02:20 Jan 30th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

For every to know, that message was between me and deno, Not lew. 

Not that it matters but still.

also, im having fun atm :D got lucky against ryan ;) and now to out pump him! (not likely, he has troops alredy to bring, i dont lol)


15:20:16 Jan 30th 10 - Pirate Candybeard:

Learn to diplo to me?

Boy, you're the one who told Maximus that you weren't going to attack us and said that you consulted the leadership. It doesn't matter if you sent that to me or to anyone in this kingdom. I know it's unofficial, I'd just say it's lame to say you're not going to attack us and than when turn troops away from HIV.. 5 days later you attack us. If you see upwards you'd see I never said you guys broke anything don't twist my words around like that.

I'm not saying you broke NAP nor CF, I'm saying it's questionable,which is unarguable.


15:45:57 Jan 30th 10 - Lord Deno Pan:

I am glad you are having fun Maximus. And to be fair, at the time i told you that we didnt want to war you i firmly believed that we didnt. So i wasnt lying to you or anything. Wich i never do. But as the game is dynamic and changes all the time, so dos perspective and goals. 


I will be honest with you one more time and tell you we had a vice meeting the other day, where we discussed what to do. At the end Binh sumarised and made a statement on what to do. That is what we follow. Whatever small talk i had with you in pms isnt realy relevant in the big picture. 

And to be even more brutal honest. I was pro waring you guys as it is the ONLY logical next move for us to do. 

And to Pirate. I read  the Gotf thread and  i will explain you this. No relations /= nap. If you want to be safe against someone. Ask for a nap. I am pretty damned sure if you asked a week ago we would have strongly considered it. 


15:51:34 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Antyany:

ooh cool an argument...

 

seems vu hasn't changed since I've last played


16:12:42 Jan 30th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

I understand that, but not my call.


16:32:50 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Super Saiyan:

oh Deno, i know you very well, i think i understand very well what mean by this comment :) it is ok... you are right we lost our wars and you are winning yours... congrats....

 

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15:20:04 Jan 29th 10
We dont have less wars than you do Saiyan. We just win ours. Sorry if it sounds like an insult. It isnt meant that way. We do realise you have some good players who are holding strong. But all in all we got plenty of wars as well.


16:42:52 Jan 30th 10 - Lady Katie Holmes:

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05:26:47 Jan 30th 10 FANTASIA SUCKS!


Amen brah!


17:40:22 Jan 30th 10 - Pirate Candybeard:

I believe everyone sees my point, you may agree, you may not agree... but cmon, if you're the "relations making vice" and you say you won't attack us, than when our armies are gone you attack... that's not very... polite.. Even if it was unofficial...

and telling me to "learn to diplo" after doing that, isn't really the way to go with me.

Ugh, I cba with this Deno, I really don't want to argue with HIV as I have many friends there...




17:58:06 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Arzun:

Many friends? I doubt it, other than that stinky belgium who never stops talking of you. I hear you two are dating now?


18:13:47 Jan 30th 10 - Lord Deno Pan:

What on earth are you talking about ? I dont want to go with you. I dont even know who you are. 


23:37:25 Jan 30th 10 - Mr. Path:

Hey Lew.  Not that its much of a consolation but when he sent that message, we did not want to fight you guys.  If he would have known that you guys were taking that message as some degree of NAP then he likely would have given a warning.  Even now, I don't think anyone really *wants* to fight you guys.  In a perfect world you guys would be fighting  MAD and Fate with all your armies and our two kingdoms would have no contact.  Instead there is all these armies and holdings belonging to you guys surrounding our cities which we've captured on all of our fronts. On Nirvana at least I know a lot of them are those ex-psychedelic cities.  A couple weeks ago I was thinking "I hope Dom ceasefires with Psychedelic.  They are having problems in their core but Lews army keeps coming west (towards HIV).  At this rate we will end up with some diplomatic problems."

If you were in our situation, would you allow unaligned armies and armories to exist within range of undefended mines that you conquered? I realized a while ago that we had to either nap or war you guys.  I honestly didn't have an opinion which, because both plans had their pros and cons.  If we warred you guys it'd be kicking someone when they are down (which we didn't want to do).  If we NAP, it would mean more farming and people these days are terrified of the term "NAP".  NAP too many kingdoms and people start crying in the forums and even your own kingdom mates disapprove (you are well aware of this).  A few people are bellyaching even about the ones we have now
.....Although, those people were noticeably quieter when things weren't looking as well for us.

I'm of the opinion that from a purely strategic point of view it would probably have been in our best interests to do a NAP.   Other concerns often override what is best strategically however as you are well aware.  We put off the decision too long because it is a difficult one to make. In fact, if different vices were online the decision might even have gone the other way?  You know the people in here well enough to know that no trickery was intended.  You also should know that we are not looking to wipe you guys out.  The goal is just to improve security in local areas.


23:41:29 Jan 30th 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

May i say, do you really think dom dumb enough to head at HIV with what was going on? lol..

Either way, im waiting to see what you do next. We almost gone, that leaves, fate, mad, relentless, some fc, and you guys on fant.

heard u naped fate, so their goes thst war. fc doesnt have much, relentless seems to be farming and mad and fate are coming at me and are on peace terms. so whats next for fant?


00:25:52 Jan 31st 10 - Mr. Path:

Then why is there so many armies left on nirvana where there is no enemy?  Who is to say that you wouldn't make some kind of peace and turn on us?  GOTF already did it this age.  One second they were begging us to come in and kill revelation for them, giving us maps of their core, telling us the location and strengths of rvl armies.  Then without any word they cut off communication and start attack us with rvl while we were still warring no pulse and brethren.

No matter what you come up with, having no relations with someone you border is a bad idea.  It would be foolish to think otherwise.  Like I said, this all stems back to how centerstage NAPs have become in this game.  You have people overdoing it.  You have people who freak out when any NAP is made.

Lately I've noticed kingdoms no longer have NAPs, they instead have "agreements" that basically summarized are "You don't attack me, we wont attack you", which sounds a hell of a lot like a NAP to me.  Everyone is just so petrified of being labeled a NAP whore that situations like these where a nap would be perfectly logical are instead overlooked.  This goes for you guys as well as us.  Instead you rely on some friendly (and "unofficial") chatter between an HIV vice and a domination non-vice.


00:33:59 Jan 31st 10 - Lady Rev the Hedgehog:

Just my input on the situation.


I agree with Path.

/Input.

Though it sucks for us a KD that thats happened, I dont think it would have made much of a difference.
And Dom members, please leave this argument alone. Though atm Im not a vice, Im as good as one. So please leave it.

/End Arguement


01:15:57 Jan 31st 10 - Lord Deno Pan:

I agree with Rev. Both here and in the Gotf thread. 


01:23:32 Jan 31st 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

i did end it and asked wats next for fant :p he replied about it still


01:29:52 Jan 31st 10 - Mr. Teirdel:

Our kd has ceasefires, and if we wish to attack a 36 hour warning must be given. Or at least it did. This way if someone wants to break a cf, they can with their honor and it gives us time to prepare. So both parties are happy.


01:31:13 Jan 31st 10 - Loser The Born Loser The Enforcer:

Moral of the story... stop bitching about mass-NAPs. You never know when such shit will come to bite you back in the ass.

Second moral of the story... WTF is that tard Revenge still doing in Domination? As good as vice? Pfffft.


15:08:06 Jan 31st 10 - Junior Guildmaster Shmeh:

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23:25:52 Jan 30th 10
Then why is there so many armies left on nirvana where there is no enemy?  Who is to say that you wouldn't make some kind of peace and turn on us?  GOTF already did it this age.  One second they were begging us to come in and kill revelation for them, giving us maps of their core, telling us the location and strengths of rvl armies.  Then without any word they cut off communication and start attack us with rvl while we were still warring no pulse and brethren.

No matter what you come up with, having no relations with someone you border is a bad idea.  It would be foolish to think otherwise.  Like I said, this all stems back to how centerstage NAPs have become in this game.  You have people overdoing it.  You have people who freak out when any NAP is made.

Lately I've noticed kingdoms no longer have NAPs, they instead have "agreements" that basically summarized are "You don't attack me, we wont attack you", which sounds a hell of a lot like a NAP to me.  Everyone is just so petrified of being labeled a NAP whore that situations like these where a nap would be perfectly logical are instead overlooked.  This goes for you guys as well as us.  Instead you rely on some friendly (and "unofficial") chatter between an HIV vice and a domination non-vice.

Please explain, this is news to me...


15:46:12 Jan 31st 10 - Mr. Darkfriend:

Silly DB! Always the same


15:59:40 Jan 31st 10 - Mr. Super Saiyan:

to answer you question Path about

"Then why is there so many armies left on nirvana where there is no enemy?"

we were finishing off the rest of the psyc cities, and for 2 days we were waiting to get our relationship sorted out with Pokemon, we were surrounding them at this moment and wanted to know what their intentions were before taking off to arma/fanta/mantrax etc...

In my area North nirvana there are 5 of our enemies neighbouring me well now it is 6 with your mental dude attacking me and i am also busy on the other side with MAD already attacking me from aram..

Dunno what you can see up north but we are not sitting around and doing nothing in nirvana. We had too many things to deal with at once.

Personally i completely understand your position and why you would want to attack us. Get to those fanta cities before mad and fate do lol, how else can you secure a win, it is a big chunk of land, so complete makes sense.

But on nirvana we are way too busy to even come close to want to fight you guys... you simply diverted us from focusing on mad and fate...unfortunately

 

 

 


17:37:10 Jan 31st 10 - Lady Boobson:

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14:46:12 Jan 31st 10 Silly DB! Always the same


LOLOLOL!


19:00:07 Jan 31st 10 - Mental Midazolam The Unrelenting:

I'm female LMFAO!!!  And why mention me separate to the rest of the conversation?


19:17:19 Jan 31st 10 - Mr. Super Saiyan:

sorry mental, ... didnt check :(

i mentioned you seperate cause you are attacking me that is all, <3 nothing personally honestly.

but right we left you alone after you switched to HIV from fate. damn we shouldnt have :) lol


19:50:42 Jan 31st 10 - Mental Midazolam The Unrelenting:

@ Saiyan

lolz np :)

I am expected to honour all FATE NAP's upon leaving their KD but since BoW and FATE were the only people to have issues with me changing KD's mid era, I have been ordered (since joining HIV) to observe all FATE and HIV NAP's even tho they don't recognise any reciprocal NAP with me.  Woo hoo!  Talk about a gangbang!  You think you are being hard done by hun...come to Mental land!  We have 1950's drink prices here...come join the happy hour and take one of my tavernes!!  I am NAPped and at war with everyone all at the same time!!!  It's a farkin blast!!!

I don't train hobos this late in the era just for fun lolz I am a bit more clevererrr than that.


19:56:24 Jan 31st 10 - Mental Midazolam The Unrelenting:

U scared of my hobos?


19:57:21 Jan 31st 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

he better be. they own >:] just ask the guy on my city :D


20:00:56 Jan 31st 10 - Mental Midazolam The Unrelenting:

lolz no they don't but they serve a purpose :P

It'd actually help my income a tonne if u killed them Saiyan but I won't make it easy for ya you have to come and work it baby ;)


20:05:41 Jan 31st 10 - General Maximus Decimus Meridius:

lol they great for spamming and making someone stay at ur city for like 3 rl days now hehe

or 2. cant remember lol


20:06:37 Jan 31st 10 - Mental Midazolam The Unrelenting:

Bahahaha!   You must have lots of slaves to make that worth it's while ;)


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