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Nirvana 33
13:55:00 Mar 1st 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

It might not be :P and I was referring to the message you mentioned with the conversations and the offer to help. As valverde said we have limited LoS in the west and so , we was looking to see if Test had more cities , when we were Frozen. It was me personally who advised that we attack Test and You , and the main reason was because the lack of response to my message about Test had convinced me you was going to kill Test and then slam into our east side. It was a move to keep the fight out of our core in all honest as Test had threatened to attack us and you hadn't replied , leading me to think you planned to also. 


by you i mean who ever i sent the conversation to lol i can't remember who it was 


16:28:15 Mar 1st 15 - Mr. Edd:

Lol it was most likely gonna be over anyways. I was just stockpiling gold to land drop. And was waiting on an actual attack before I do anything. And when The Collective sent an army I went into full training mode. And I'm just chilling here making my army grow. 

I didn't fight Measuring stick cause I didn't think they were a threat. I would have if they moved closer but they never did.


18:00:18 Mar 1st 15 - Jack Daniels The drunk (Mr. Name Got Stolen):

lol control me shit I'm stuck in a city that's all the control you need and the biggest threat near me is random and scimitar maybe if you woulda had random watch me and scimitar on the offense he wouldn't have this fat stack of zerks sitting at roshar twidling there thumbs 


18:28:39 Mar 1st 15 - Mr. Yisrahel Sesugh of Yesu:

We wernt a threat because we was minding our own business when you guys swooped in on us :P 


12:16:14 Mar 2nd 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Scoreboard finally leaving there core , not sure where they are heading though 


13:29:54 Mar 2nd 15 - Ms. Seven of Nine:

You do not have much vision right? He already went to attack Jack and got some exp, he is out trying to find stuff...


Good attack by Von, well done, but I do not understand why you guys did not follow up attack us. We are having no luck this era with dice rolls. When Von lost against my army, I lost a lot, wish he just bounced me. 

So we got mage to aotd me so I don't get slaughtered. Chance were above 60, then 50ish then 40something, all failed and then what I keep telling my mage stop doing the cast again, next one was 9% and she lost 50k magic towers and about 60k mages total. 

So then she just decided to quit for the era, maybe next era we will have more luck... Thanx for what you did for us still Elsa :-) we will be stronger next era. 

At oop I went for magic and a mistake to stop at 5 due to oop war, that hurts me now cause I can't self aotd. 

Since half the kd is semi active or lost armies we as a kingdom would like to thank everyone for a nice era, we wait for arma now. 


13:33:50 Mar 2nd 15 - Ms. Seven of Nine:

Oh yeah and reason why I merged the first army into second that was not moving cause I wanted to cast invisibility to see if my army could disappear while frozen. No, it will not xD was a big fail :p  


15:40:50 Mar 2nd 15 - Mr. Valverde:

To help even up the map some, Measuring Stick is seeking to cancel CF with Mal. Consider this our 48 hr notice.


17:59:58 Mar 2nd 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

YESS!!!!


18:44:14 Mar 2nd 15 - Alrisaia (Lady Alrisaia The Phantom):

I'd love to offer some coaching for your mage, that's way too many towers...


18:53:38 Mar 2nd 15 - Dark Spawn (Mr. Dominion):

Yeah thats what I said as well, I think I read somewhere that 20k mts gives you max advantage, but when you burn that you have to wait to rebuild again? With 50k she can cast more times, though she loses more on each cast?

Should she build two magic towns with 20k mts each? What is best option?


19:11:25 Mar 2nd 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

15k MTs gives max bonus. it requires some planning ahead, but it's best to plan ahead and have MTs come in each tick at or around the same pace that you expect to burn thru them.


20:37:16 Mar 2nd 15 - Lady Elisa Day The Mage:

I did not know that, but then again I play an era and then quit till they make a kd and invite me, so truth be told I did not bother reading about maging. They needed a mage so I said ok since I played as mage 2-3 times before, still I think I do better as halfer. 


I said I quit for that day :p not completely gone but I again made a mistake and built 30k MTs lol. There is no hope for me :p

Training more mages and waiting for armies to come my way, to express some terror on them :p

Unimatrix


22:02:10 Mar 2nd 15 - Mr. Kreed The White:

Also, having 15k MTs necessarily isn't needed. The vast majority of the time I have fewer. I'm not a vet mage so I'm sure others can help you out more.


23:03:34 Mar 2nd 15 - Alrisaia (Mr. Alrisaio The Beholden):

Trolling is right.


Typically I hover between 13-18k Mt in my magic city. Which allows me to minimize my tower losses with shorter range casts and maximize the mp I put into long range casts.

If I cast during a turn I will always rebuild the towers I lost or approximate those losses and rebuild a round about number similar to the lost towers.

I'd like to think I'm a pretty effective mage although I've been accused of being a flashy caster with some of my unusual tactics ;-)



23:05:10 Mar 2nd 15 - Djinn Bartimaeus (Bartimaeus The Djinn):

lol we love Al over here in H2O and Mal ;)


03:36:10 Mar 3rd 15 - Random (Mr. Reallynotrandom):

Depends on the size of your city also, to maximize your MP you want to have towers in a 1:1 ratio with any other building type in your MT... when you start looking at larger casts the %age increase from having more tower vs more MU's is more worth it to having less towers for building efficiency sake...

then again, depends on what's needed of you and how much resistance you're up against.


21:13:51 Mar 4th 15 - Mr. Scimitar Warbird:

The numbers game:



Kingdoms in Nirvana
The Collective9Ms. Seven of Nine100
Maleficent7Mr. Bartimaeus99
Measuring Stick3Mr. Valverde54
Scoreboard1Mr. Reallynotrandom25
Kingdom of Test3Mr. Testtttttttttttttt23
Dirty Birds3Mr. Jack The Righteous17
Realm Of Urhobo1Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise8


03:12:25 Mar 7th 15 - Mr. Fezz:

A very entertaining world. 


Unless the other worlds don't like to talk. 


06:22:06 Mar 7th 15 - Mr. Kreed The White:

Fezz, I see you are back from vacation and still logging in. Sure you don't have another era in you?


19:04:55 Mar 7th 15 - Mr. Sherlock Holmes:

I am enjoy reading the forms. 


Vacation / Mexico was great and felt good to disconnect from everything. 

Playing on talent, I joined late, and way before we started together on zeta, but the era is still going. We will finish off the remaining kingdom in a day and will have to beg VU admin to end it cause no one has lvl 9 magic lol

I can't see myself commiting to another era. Talent was easy and wouldn't play on their again, doesn't require that much effort/ log in time, too many inactive players, but going to miss my 60k nazguls I managed to train up

Trust me, when I do decide to play again I will touch base with you, JD, Horus and Barny. 

Another thing I doubt I will try again is playing multiple characters.i never say never but I Loved it and hated it lol. Too much effort



06:37:26 Mar 8th 15 - Mr. Scimitar Warbird:


I am guessing this is what the unit description means



Berserkers
Berserkers will kill everything - Including allies.





VICTORY!

Mr. Scimitar Warbird.

The city of Finality is now under our command!

They had 42176783 gold, 20632780 stone, 8479783 tree, 19351255 food and 0 slaves in the city, that is now yours! We also took 695208 of their peasants as slaves!

We killed all of the 704688 troops.

Our troops gained +3 extra experience.




08:11:20 Mar 8th 15 - Mr. Hirogen Hunter:

That still counts as one!


08:11:22 Mar 8th 15 - Mr. Hirogen Hunter:

(Double post)


09:50:16 Mar 8th 15 - Ms. Seven of Nine:

It was easy since you used ODIN war shout, good job \o/

Jack, you did well, made a lot of trouble for us, you're awesome :-)


15:46:38 Mar 10th 15 - Dark Spawn (Mr. Dominion):

So at oop Aisha killed some people and one of them she asked to restart in the kingdom cause he seemed nice, so he changed name and returned as Federation, halfling so quickly picking up on others. 


Aisha told him just enjoy the game, no expectations but if you manage to take few cities in Mal's core, it would be awesome. 

So the guy trained around 50k Ponies, did not bother with Mages, we thought cool if their mage loses power on him and ignors Hirogen who had 11k Naz in Mal's core. Did not work, thumbs up for freezing Hirogen's +100k mages army twice. 

But to get back on point, Federation took Mal's blocker and went inside, attacked 200k city. We thought no way he's taking that. Mal ignored him when it comes to magic but then Apocalipe started training, 80k troops inside, Dakarta moved in to help. But then changed direction, and I told Federation you need to attack, enemy must have over 50% on you now, so Dakarta stoppef moving to help, cause Ponies have 6/4. Federation had 40% and just went with it.

He took that 200k city, but then wanted to wreck stuff. I told him wreck homes cause they can't rebuild. But the guy insisted I buy 100 mill stone so I did some stg and bought it. I told him its way too expensive to wreck 200k city but did't want to argue and just wrecked a 200k city :-) 

This move from someone that got killed and returned to do this action deserved a story on forums. Well done!


17:04:17 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Apocolypse:

'Fortune favors the bold' .. this time around it did not favor me ..lol  congrats :-)


17:06:55 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Octavius II:

Out of curiosity who was he before?


17:27:28 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Federation:

I am just a returning player, played long time ago, but landed in a pretty bad place, right next to Tyrael from Kingdom Test and The Collective, so I died very quickly, I was not ready for the battles that took place in my spawning area. I am grateful to return and contribute to this kingdom.


17:42:07 Mar 10th 15 - Teirdel (Saint Tyrael of Justice):

Hey I left ya be mate. Got killed myself in fact.


19:36:25 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Hirogen Hunter:

My main army got frozen by magic twice, other smaller army frozen as well,  Locutus army got rain of fire near Edd's city by him, Leila's army got frozen, mind if I ask why you did not provide magic support for Apocolypse, cause it seems only his city was left with no support?


20:19:41 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Kreed The White:

I'm guessing magic range. Of course they wouldn't want to share that if that's the case.


20:48:35 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Hirogen Hunter:

My army had over 100k Mages in there, it got frozen twice with no failed attempts, so quite easily I guess, or just two lucky dice rolls? Don't think so...

The armies I mentioned are all with no mages, that we sent all the way up north in their core to try to get easy cities, they had no magic protection, quite easy to cast on, and they did cast, also no failed casts on those freezes, just not on the 50k Pony Riders that took that 200k city.

Just wondering why they ignored only that army.


21:08:54 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Scimitar Warbird:

I feel like there's more teamwork and organization in our kingdom than in Maleficent, that might be one of the things we are different in. And we always have a lot of people doing magic, so I am pretty sure if there was an enemy army running around in our core, it would not go unseen, if that is the case with that one. Don't see a reason why they would ignore such an army (it showed as 100k army)

Now that I reached 100k Berserkers for the second era in row, I am feeling I could perform well in any other kingdoms in this game. When few friends and I came to this game, we made a kingdom where people would stay for a very long time, mafia style, no leaving of the kingdom and that kinda thing. I hereby pledge my allegiance to this kingdom, to this group of players and hope we will stay as a group of a very long time.

This thing with magic has showed me just how different things are done in different kingdoms. For example, for second era in row, our leader tells us where to put warehouse cities, and we get stone to gold casted there almost every day, so you will rarely see us actually selling stone on the market. Its a huge boost for us, everything stays in the kingdom, and we can keep training like crazy. Aisha told me not to say we do this, cause enemies will then look for these cities, but hell I dare you all to come look for the cities. :) Thought to be honest it was one of the reasons why Anon defeated us last era, he found those cities and then later told her that we should wreck our warehouses haha, he must have plundered when we were not around.

It seems Nirvana thread is by far the most popular in discussions and stuff :) Thank you all for a very enjoyable era so far. Thumbs up for honorable and respectful behaviors.


21:20:29 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Edd:

Well tbh I did not think he would lose the city to such a small armies. I also didn't have the range so high up north. I rofed your army cause I got a small amount of mages in everyone one of my cities to prevent earthquake. And I got lucky freezing you the first time. 


21:50:53 Mar 10th 15 - Teirdel (Saint Tyrael The Fallen):

Setting up stg warehouse locations is done all the time. At least it used to be. I know any kingdom myself and JD are in has a habit of finding its way to doing so.


21:58:22 Mar 10th 15 - Mr. Kreed The White:

How I personally operate often times is I find someone in my KD who agrees to buy my stone at a very high price .99 or maybe higher. Wait for market to be bought up then sell at that price. Said person buys my stone. It saves them a cast and I still get the benefit as if I'm being STG for. Just seems having 1 guy cast 1 STG on 100M stone is much more efficient than a guy casting 5x on people with 20M stone.


22:24:18 Mar 10th 15 - Ms. Poorer:

Yeah, honestly you should always find someway to sell your stone to your STG'er for efficiencies sake.


00:42:42 Mar 11th 15 - Princess Aisha:

Well for me, its more the communication, teamwork, interaction, rather than profit, when it comes to this casting of stone to gold. It encourages more communication between members, makes them work better together, I want them to do things together; kingdoms that have fought my kingdom might have noticed I try to coordinate attacks so that we have multiple armies attacking at similar times. I always try to get people to work together, and I really did start this stg thing long time ago. I remember back when I was in kingdoms with Zondervan, I used to cast for him entire era, and then he would cast for me the next era. It just gets you to talk to a person more, and to this day Zondervan is by far my favorite VU person and my best friend out here.

And we do not cast when people have 20M, usually its more, even thought if they want a cast we will do it. Last era we had three mages, this time we even have four, and three of them will stg all the time, and the main mage saves the mp for more important offensive casts.



05:36:49 Mar 11th 15 - Prince Ranginui:

Well tbh I did not think he would lose the city to such a small armies. I also didn't have the range so high up north. I rofed your army cause I got a small amount of mages in everyone one of my cities to prevent earthquake. And I got lucky freezing you the first time. 

I had i think 65% on him and going by my calculations he could not take my city with the amount of archers i had coming in on mobilize and with the little prep he had done so i went to bed... 5/6 hours later my news page was reading ... 'your dead' ..lol

so even with calculations ..that dice roll can say ' nah calcutate this ... you lose your city'  .. :-)


06:18:25 Mar 11th 15 - Ms. Examine:

Just for future reference incase you are unawares; Mobilizing decreases morale and when your units are in your city with low morale they lose a % of their DP per % of morale missing.  This can play a huge factor in human defence.


11:28:42 Mar 11th 15 - Alrisaia (Mr. Alrisaio The Beholden):

This era had been really fun, hirogen your army's that I froze were not easy casts by any means, just lucky... Ask Leila how many fails I've had on her armies.


Communication has played a major factor for us as far as costing us the north, I went really inactive last weekend and logged in yesterday morning to find one of my income cities burned and destroyed by Leila :-(

Our core was not defended properly up north and had us scrambling too late to defend against the day moving offensive.

All in all a number of factors contributed to our failed defense in the north and the successful destruction of that 200k among other cities.

And... You must know I don't have range there because I would never let a non magic protected army run rampant without at least an ROF for fun ;-)


14:47:15 Mar 11th 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

I don't know the exact formula behind morales effect on an armys power. Not sure if anyone does besides Zeta. It is fairly sizeable though. 


Even if it cost you 10% of your power, that would have been the difference between him having a 40% and ~25% chance. For said reason I keep a scout with 100% morale in my cities and when I see my morale begin to dip, usually from orc prepping on me as I rarely play human, I transfer troops into my 100% morale scout.


20:52:35 Mar 11th 15 - Ms. Sick Dwarf:

Yeah if you're going to be very active even you could transfer your units all into a scout for fifty nine minutes of a tick and then right before change put them back in the city for your incomes sake.


21:14:32 Mar 11th 15 - Dakarta (Lord Dacarta):

I could be wrong, but I don't think the timing of how long per tick they are in the city or not, matters to their morale..


21:38:03 Mar 11th 15 - Mr. Kreed The White:

It doesn't. It's about exposure time. Put troops in army seconds after tick, move them to city seconds before. That way at tick change you don't pay upkeep and for 99.9% of the time your army isn't hindered from bad morale.


23:29:54 Mar 11th 15 - Dakarta (Lord Dacarta):

You just contradicted yourself.. Whether they are in the city 59 minutes or one minute, their morale is affected the same, I think.


23:44:33 Mar 11th 15 - Mr. Kreed The White:

Troops housed in city are effected by city morale. Troops in army are affected by army morale. You put your troops in city for a few seconds to gain additional tick change income. The other 59+ minutes you put troops in a scout because said scout had 100 morale meanwhile the city has lets say 80 morale. 


This gives the prepper a minuscule window of opportunity and they won't even be aware of it.


13:15:53 Mar 12th 15 - Dakarta (Prince Dakarta):

That part is true, yes. I think we were just on different pages in the same book


19:45:45 Mar 12th 15 - Mr. Hirogen Hunter:

Will Maleficent be able to defend their north from Hirogens second attack?
What will Von do next now that he noticed every time he moves out The Collective sends bunch of armies to his city, preventing him from going anywhere far?
Where is Edd gonna go, prep on Aisha's city, or walk over to Collective core?
Is Leila going toward Von's city, or maybe to their mage?
Will Dominion reach Aisha's city to defend or will he be frozen?

Is Random gonna be able to defeat Measuring Stick all by himself?
Will Barny be able to stop Scimitar, or if he fails, how will Maleficent stop his 110k Berserkers?

So many question, we need answers!


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