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Starta 25
23:09:00 Sep 18th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Let the games begin! 


Lord Woden The Redeamable (9/18/2013 4:42:05 PM) 
GOOD BAD 
Leave this valley or it will be taken as an act of war


Your words to my vice will be taken as an act of war. 
Juggernaut therefore declares a pre-emptive strike on Woden! 


23:09:23 Sep 18th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

and by the way, it's *redeemable


23:38:28 Sep 18th 13 - Mr. Virus Alert:

Trespassers will be shot on sight. You have been warned.


00:01:03 Sep 19th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

At least one of them can spell :0


13:00:14 Sep 19th 13 - Mr. Virus Alert:

Oh yes, I can do spells. In my younger and more vulnerable years I was known to be quite the sorcerer.


01:12:04 Sep 22nd 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

IMGKingdom NameMembersLeader%P
Kingdoms in Starta
Juggernaut8Mr. Salazar399
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila274
Warriors of Woden4Lord Woden The Redeamable236
Power of Friendship1Mr. Inactive Yang100
Dreadnaught2Lord Valkyros XXI55
Iron Cross1Lord Horus XXXII51
Dendarii Mercenary Corps4Beast Lord Jangsta22
Kingdom of Stupid Warriors9Sir Muscle1


01:53:14 Sep 22nd 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Halfling Fatale

Woden KD: eaters of DMC
Dread: the tasteless orcs


01:45:12 Sep 23rd 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

IMGKingdom NameMembersLeader%P
Kingdoms in Starta
Juggernaut8Mr. Salazar381
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable215
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila205
Power of Friendship1Mr. Inactive Yang100
Dreadnaught3Lord Valkyros XXI89
Iron Cross1Lord Horus XXXII12
Equinox1Mr. Iceworks Armageddon10
Dendarii Mercenary Corps4Beast Lord Jangsta6


03:12:03 Sep 24th 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

IMGKingdom NameMembersLeader%P
Kingdoms in Starta
Juggernaut8Mr. Salazar340
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable196
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila189
Power of Friendship1Mr. Inactive Yang100
Dreadnaught3Lord Valkyros XXI76
Equinox1Mr. Iceworks Armageddon17
Dendarii Mercenary Corps4Beast Lord Jangsta9


06:11:33 Sep 25th 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

IMGKingdom NameMembersLeader%P
Kingdoms in Starta
Juggernaut8Mr. Salazar321
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable202
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila170
Power of Friendship1Mr. Inactive Yang100
Dreadnaught3Lord Valkyros XXI63
Equinox1Mr. Iceworks Armageddon31
Dendarii Mercenary Corps5Beast Lord Jangsta11


06:13:25 Sep 25th 13 - Mr. Smallfry:

Three posts, Yukan. 


13:24:25 Sep 29th 13 - Dont Look Down (Mr. Virus Alert):

Considering there is a new kingdom, can I get an update on the kingdoms strength?


14:02:13 Sep 29th 13 - Lady Leila:

Pretty well balanced. All very close, we were third just few hours ago;



Kingdoms in Starta
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila100
Juggernaut8Mr. Salazar95
Invicta7Lord Stormcrow94
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable80
Power of Friendship1Mr. Inactive Yang40
Dreadnaught2Lord Valkyros XXI23


20:33:54 Sep 29th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Juggernaut Summary - 8 players


Two players 
     Landed in the eastern side of the map. Iceworks killed one of them. Someone from Woden killed the other. 
     Iceworks and some others joined together in Invicta, but won on fair merits. The KD change wasn't the cause of the loss. 

One late drop - Troll
     Fatale cast EQ, ruining growth. Hasn't seen combat. 

Two Orc's. 
     One orc spammed and did not find an opportunity to utilize the troops. This ruins economy, of course. 
     One orc assaulted fatale core, capturing several cities. The halfer growth and halfer magic support repelled this assault. The cities were returned. 

One Elf
     Assisted in the ruination of many ponies. Halfer production rendered this useless, although it was effective at the time. Due to escaping a spam attempt by dreadnaught, elf economy was greatly weakened. In this weakened state, elf has been casting. 

One Halfer
     Fought Woden's assault on our core and repelled it after some losses. 
     Assisted in defending against Fatale. Forces were slaughtered. 
     
Dwarf
     He's learning dwarf. We will see how well he does. 

--------

Woden: Congratulations on your repelling of DMC in your core and the protection thereof. I've noticed that you have not attacked Dreadnaught who is in your secondary core. I've noticed that you have not attacked Fatale, an entirely halfer KD that my KD has been fighting since day one. You tried to take advantage of us during this time, but you failed to take our core. You took advantage of two players who were out in the open and waging a war against iceworks and virus. That was good strategy for war, but it was bad politics. I think your victory's are luckluster because of some of this info, but you have my congratulations nevertheless. 

Fatale: You did well. i'm only disappointed that you are ONLY fighting Juggernaut with an entirely halfer KD. Getting ganged up on isn't that much fun. 

Invicta: Congratulations on your victories. 


00:04:42 Sep 30th 13 - Princess Aisha:

Honestly this Kd we created was supposed to be just for laughs, we wanted to have a place on the map in the corner to do some testing, and playing around with friends. First of all this is not an entirely Halfer kingdom, I am playing Elf. I wanted to see what it would be to play Elf as I have been around for many years and I never played Elf, so wanted to give it a shot, and at the same time to check just how behind I would be at development compared to Halfers.

We also wanted to test few more things, but then suddently this Orc settled right there in middle of our towns. We were not gonna be hostile to everyone, I actually sent nice messages to most people and I really did not want to war here, just wanted to goof around the map. I am not enjoying Elves at all, development is slow, income is weak, takes forever to get somewhere, and our kingdom did not have magic when it was supposed to. And then one of our members died, and I was pretty much planning to quit, and others too, but then that Orc started sending insults in private messages, so we said ok this guy needs to get a beating.

As soon as my magic was up, the progress of the Orc was stopped, and we started to counter. I though that my magic setting was lame, I am not experienced mage so I was late, I apologize to my kingdom for that. But approx the same time I got magic, you guys got it too, so then we had a stalemate for a while, till the Mages started coming.

And then like I said, the kingdom was created just to laugh and do stupid things on the map, and we still do not consider this was serious, we always joke around, like when that guy took 2k towers city in our core, and I told them not to take it, but get Advents to try to get exp there, and then again the guy insulted for cheating, don't know how that is cheating but ok. But then the city got sieged, and our Halfer got away, wanted to go back to city next tick, but then the guy destroyed towers and I laughed so hard at the bad planning by our Halfer, that should not happen :D

And then I got bored, did not know what to do, so I said hell lets try something. I told them to scream ODIN and then everything you do will be successful, so I did an EQ cast with 30% screaming ODIN and it worked on first attempt, destroyed bunch of buildings of that guy you mentioned;  and then my girls thought that is really true, and then our Halfer attacked that Orc that had 130k troops in city, with like below 40% and screamed ODIN and won at like 14% dice roll and almost did not lose anything lol... I had to explain to that that was a coincidence and to stop attacking at low percentages.

Oh and its not like we are only fighting you guys, I am pretty sure Invicta will attack us soon, they are just further away than you are, and they did not insult.





01:25:12 Sep 30th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Your points are far too vague. If you're going to bring up insults, I think you should start quoting messages and player names. 


Private messages aren't something an entire KD can control, especially if they know nothing about them. 


14:37:22 Oct 4th 13 - Lady Lara Croft:

This is a good world;




Kingdoms in Starta
Juggernaut10Mr. Salazar111
Invicta8Lord Stormcrow103
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila100
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable68
Dreadnaught2Lord Valkyros XXI18


18:12:58 Oct 4th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Says the KD who is eating a KD 


23:50:38 Oct 4th 13 - Lady Leila:

She was saying how the percentages of the kingdoms look good, considering we were first and suddenly we are third. And it has been a stalemate for couple of days already, till I got there, so its not like anyone is eating anyone.

There is still lots of fighting to be done. Nothing is done yet.


23:53:31 Oct 4th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Two of your top scoring players have eaten 24 cities according to high score. 


00:08:01 Oct 5th 13 - Lady Leila:

Almost feels like you're not paying attention to the map at all? :\
Did you not see that Dracoin and Gunslinger have 20 cities too? So we take cities, you take them back, then we take them again. Why only look at our stats, look at yours too if you want realistic view on things.

Like I said, it has been a stalemate all this time, because no kingdom has reached the upper hand. It is still very interesting.


00:18:26 Oct 5th 13 - Mr. Smallfry:



00:18:53 Oct 5th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Troll -dead

Orc - dead
another Orc - 15% initial power
Halfling - one 5k city
halfing - just came OOP
3rd halfling - still in Protection
Dwarf & Orc - only players with troops. One has a blocker and no cities. 
4th halfer - at a completely different location on map



Why only look at our stats, look at yours too if you want realistic view on things. 



I'm not paying attention to the map? I have a very accurate grasp of what's happening, thanks. 


00:32:51 Oct 5th 13 - Lady Leila:

I look at your posts, and in mostly all I find misleading information, but I guess that is just part of your tactic, I don't know. Don't know what you will gain by pretending you are giving up on this.

Your post:


  • 21:33:54 Sep 29th 13 - Mr. Salazar:
  • Juggernaut Summary - 8 players
  • You mention two players far away that Iceworks and Wooden killed, then late Troll, two Orcs, Elf, Dwarf and one Halfer that got killed.


And we attack your core, and we suddenly see this:

  • Knocks from Ms. Dracoin
    Farmers:2
    Slingers:0
    Pony riders:114276
    Illusionists:41116
    Adventurers:678
    Peasants:0


You do try hard to show your kingdom as weak and late starters, but then again there are loads of large armies there. Sure, I have killed that one, Dracoin did well, but made a mistake into allowing me to take the first strike. Learn from mistakes I always say. Still I do not think that person is dead, and you should not throw away your members like that, I still think you guys can fight pretty well. Give them some credit for their attempts at least.



01:08:19 Oct 5th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

  • You mention two players far away that Iceworks and Wooden killed, then late Troll, two Orcs, Elf, Dwarf and one Halfer that got killed.

The above is completely accurate information. 

-Iceworks and Woden did, in fact, kill two of our players. These two players are still in protection. 1 Orc + 1 Human = 2. 
-You guys killed our late-start Troll. He was completely killed and did not restart. He didn't even send troops from his city. Easy kill.  (That's 2 + 1)
-Dwarf was a late start. You haven't come into contact with this player after destroying over 1/2 our core. Do you have any evidence of having fought him? 
-Elf. Killed by you guys. 3 dead, 1 late dead, 1 late start. 
-Orc. Blocker holder. You guys have taken all of his cities except the blocker. 
-Orc. Gunslinger. This guy is the one I was referring to who fought your KD. He has 1 30k, and that was a recapture. 
-Halfer(dracoin). Fought Woden and removed him from core. Fought Valkyros of Dreadnaught, removing him from our core. Supported Gunslinger and got an army slaughtered. Fought with remaining troops and died. 

That covers every single player except one who joined today. 

The only cities you haven't taken are: 
-Dracoin's remaining cities. 98% armies slaughtered. 
-Dead people who are re-spawning
-Our newest member
-Dwarf cities & Orc blocker


  • Knocks from Ms. Dracoin
    Farmers:2
    Slingers:0
    Pony riders:114276
    Illusionists:41116
    Adventurers:678
    Peasants:0
^ Dead. 

you should not throw away your members like that,

^ I have no idea what you're talking about. You must be severely mistaken. That, or you are throwing around insults. 

Give them some credit for their attempts at least.

^ Unless you have a spy in your KD, you should have no knowledge concerning compliments, giving credit, etc. This is a conversation about this era. This isn't a forum for me to post support of Juggernaut players.


01:13:31 Oct 5th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Kingdoms in Starta
Invicta8Lord Stormcrow117
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila101
Juggernaut9Mr. Salazar100
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable69
Dreadnaught2Lord Valkyros XXI


We are double your # + 1 player, and your %P remains stronger. 
I wonder how that happened. Our cities must have gotten up and walked away. 

If you notice, someone who nearly matched your %P is gone from this list. That's because he joined us. Our %P is almost solely because of a single player and OOP buildings. 

There is nothing dishonest about what I have said. I would appreciate an end to your assumptions. 


20:36:16 Oct 17th 13 - Lady Lara Croft:

Food! I have food!
Food for sale! Need food? I have it!
Buy on the market, endless supply of food!



Farming
Level 10
Upgrading will cost 20,760,253,200 gold and 2,076,025,320 food.


01:19:23 Oct 18th 13 - Mr. Ignis Klhails:

One late drop - Troll     Fatale cast EQ, ruining growth. Hasn't seen combat


I had a bad start started earlier in another world had to wait tp quit :p but I won over a orc player who 25k gaia without doing anything :p


22:50:50 Oct 19th 13 - Lady Leila:

Update:




Kingdoms in Starta
Invicta9Lord Stormcrow143
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila100
Juggernaut10Mr. Salazar69
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable38





BATTLES:

Invicta:

Battles won: 85
Battles lost: 59


Femme Fatale:

Battles won: 81
Battles lost: 34


Juggernaut:

Battles won: 76
Battles lost: 118


Warriors of Woden:

Battles won: 36
Battles lost: 38







Most Powerful Rules at the moment:



Lady Lara Croft
Femme Fatale

Lady Elisa Day
Femme Fatale

Mr. Inactive Yang
Juggernaut

Lady Leila
Femme Fatale

Mr. Iceworks Armageddon
Invicta

Mr. Slowly
Invicta




23:14:29 Oct 19th 13 - Mr. Token of Lgc:

Invicta:

Battles won: 85
Battles lost: 59
Battles fought - 144

Femme Fatale:

Battles won: 81
Battles lost: 34
Battles fought  - 115

Juggernaut:

Battles won: 76
Battles lost: 118
Battles fought - 194

Warriors of Woden:

Battles won: 36
Battles lost: 38

Battles fought - 74


23:19:22 Oct 19th 13 - Lady Leila:

Isn't that logical considering both kingdom, Invicta and Juggernaut, have more than twice the members of Femme Fatale. It is expected you would have more battles.


23:30:20 Oct 19th 13 - Mr. Token of Lgc:

Invicta:

Battles won: 85
Battles lost: 59
Battles fought - 144
9 players

Avg: 16 battles/player


Femme Fatale:

Battles won: 81
Battles lost: 34
Battles fought  - 115

4 players

Avg: 28 battles/player

Juggernaut:

Battles won: 76
Battles lost: 118
Battles fought - 194

10 players

Avg: 19.4 battles/player

Warriors of Woden:

Battles won: 36
Battles lost: 38

Battles fought - 74

5 players

Avg: 14.8 battles/player


01:20:36 Oct 20th 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

Having three KD's+Virus moving in on me/Splitting up my armies doesn't help my score lol


01:38:01 Oct 20th 13 - Dont Look Down (Mr. Virus Alert):

Admit it, you enjoyed every second of it :)


20:11:38 Oct 20th 13 - Lady Lara Croft:

Anyone need food?


Farming
Level 12
Upgrading will cost 260,597,763,000 gold and 26,059,776,300 food.


19:12:26 Oct 23rd 13 - Lady Leila:

When we first looked at where we should go, we noticed this:


  • 04:26:01 Sep 16th 13 - Mr. Fight The Powers That Bee:

    Starta is lacking good kingdoms, id like to challenge players of VU to join Starta. 3 of the last 6 eras have been won by the same person, that same person has been in the winning kingdom 3 eras in a row. Will you allow this to continue? he needs to be stopped!!


So looking back what happened last eras:


We were told some guy called Meaner keeps winning this map. Who is that? Does he play this era? I see Juggernaut is still here, taking many enemies, Dreadnaught got killed by us pretty quickly, they were quite inactive I think. And that Snowballs kingdom is not around. Femme Fatale and Invicta are new to this map, and Woden also maybe?

Also, just by looking at the forums now, looks much better

  • Report13:01:15 Sep 17th 13 - Lady Leila:
    Eight posts total in all of Starta last era? That is quite low, must have been a boring era for you all? Due to this challenge being posted, me and my friends decided to come and make this world a little bit more interesting.

Now we have better competition, more people, more flaming and more battles. There are forum arguments, turns in who is winning wars, there are battles everywhere. Just to point out Woden had 4 people when we NAPed them, and Invicta was a small kingdom too when we NAPed them, now they both grew, but thats fine, we have a large kingdom Juggernaut to fight, so events it up considering we are only 4 players here.

And looking at the most fearsome, nobody can say we have farmed, we have been fighting since era start, and we have most kills too.
Anyways, everyone just keep having fun, lets make this is a nice era :)

Most fearsome:

  • Mr. Inactive Yang has won 30 battles, captured 32 cities and killed a total of 306496 men and women.
  • Lady Lara Croft has won 35 battles, captured 24 cities and killed a total of 399613 men and women.
  • Lady Elisa Day has won 30 battles, captured 22 cities and killed a total of 233537 men and women.
  • Mr. Acerf has won 20 battles, captured 17 cities and killed a total of 209445 men and women.
  • Mr. Vonn Darkmoor has won 18 battles, captured 14 cities and killed a total of 102863 men and women.
  • Mr. The Gunslinger has won 33 battles, captured 13 cities and killed a total of 87203 men and women.

* Only battles fought against armies with more than 5000 OP/DP counts as win/loss.

Your character Lady Leila has won 16 battles, captured 10 cities and killed a total of 297835 men and women










19:42:11 Oct 23rd 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

"nobody can say we have farmed"


Can't say I farmed on Midgard either Equilibrium >_>


19:59:17 Oct 23rd 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

"Woden had 4 people when we NAPed them, and Invicta was a small kingdom too when we NAPed them"


I was a solo player and only officially NAP'd 3-5 people on Midgard (Who didn't do much of anything till the end), so can I go ahead and accuse you of being:

13:55:59 Jan 3rd 13 - Lady Leila:
"the guy who NAPed all map and has only my kingdom to attack"

15:28:43 Dec 18th 12 - Lady Lara Croft:

"but I see kingdoms share cores and show no aggression, just preparation for attack on us :) Funny"

Yes very funny... Now I know why Invicta survived in the north!

04:52:26 Jan 18th 13 - Lady Elisa Day The Mage:

"So it was a good accomplishment because in all these eras we never did no NAPs, we had no friends, we killed everyone."

Loved that sarcasm on that win of mine :p Should I use the same excuse and ask my KD if we could disband just to imitate what you guys did back then...?


22:05:26 Oct 23rd 13 - Lady Leila:

As you can clearly see in the thread, in the beginning, Invicta was not even around, they started very late. So when we started, we were planning for a slow, peaceful era, as there seem to not be many around, except large kingdom called Juggernaut.

You guys seemed to be close to Woden and to us, so Woden came to us with an offer of NAP. Your Orc Gunslinger settled arms right next to my cities, and we had to accept this NAP, cause fighting Orc and others at oop is not easy. We were basically very inactive in the beginning, I managed to lose 3/4 of everything I had to this Gunslinger guy, good job at oop, congrats. Then we managed to push back, and to our knowledge we thought its 8 vs 4, 3 of us fighting and 1 mage.



Kingdoms in Starta
Juggernaut8Mr. Salazar399
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila274
Warriors of Woden4Lord Woden The Redeamable236


Later we fought out that your kingdom is spread around on the entire map. About 5-6 days later Invicta started coming and Aisha noticed Stormy there and they talked and arranged a very weird NAP, considering we had no idea if that will happen or not. They talked and Invicta seemed to be very inactive, so there would be 2-3 rl days passed we would get no reply, so we did magic casting on them, and then we would get reply. So to avoid all the confusion Stormy made the NAP so that is what it turned out in the end.


Even though it was shown as we had the upper hand all the time up north, that was not the case. Their magic in the beginning hurt us a lot, we got magic and hurt them, that is how Gunslinger lost. But then as we moved up there, Gunslinger trained like 600k Gaia, then that Dakarta guy had 1 mill op too, while my army was Pony Riders heavy, meaning I could get crippled if only your kingdom had some coordination to plan attacks and defense. Your city Balrog also had around 3400 Nazguls very early in the era, I do not know if your members were inactive, but when we went to attack, three of your armies were pretty close to ours. But I guess the activity won that one.


Later on we managed to outtrain you guys due to unselfish casting from Aisha, doing stone to gold on our cities, making us around 300 million gold all together among three of us fighters. All that turned into gold, the north was easy to take then.


Invicta was under heavy attack from Woden, Acerf was causing a lot of damage there, and they were quite inactive, with the exception of that Slowly guy, and we figured out they were inactive due to all the waiting we had to do when talking to them. But I guess as time passed they regained their activity. Virus Alert then joined them too, so they were gaining members and power.


But then again, its normal to complain when you're losing, everyone does it, so no point in thinking anyone would lose respectfully. Just part of the game to complain I guess.







23:55:15 Oct 23rd 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Kingdoms in Starta
Invicta9Lord Stormcrow275
Femme Fatale4Lady Leila174
Juggernaut10Mr. Salazar100
Warriors of Woden5Lord Woden The Redeamable30

Is it true that Invicta and Fatale are NAP partners? 



23:57:45 Oct 23rd 13 - Lady Leila:

Try reading what was written?


00:06:39 Oct 24th 13 - Yukan (Mr. Inactive Yang):

Well it was nice to think we had a chance xD


I figured invicta was going napless... That was pretty fatal


06:32:23 Oct 24th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

lol, Leila. I guess my implications went over your head. sorry. 


11:35:17 Oct 24th 13 - Lady Leila:

Inactive Yang, whats up with going back and forth between kingdoms
Again you are TAGless?



City Info
Owner: Mr. Inactive YangKingdom Banner
Size: 16313 building(s).
Kingdom: *No Kingdom*


15:36:16 Oct 24th 13 - Lady Lara Croft:

Disbanded? No shared vision over the map. Very hard to coordinate stuff.
Good move, Femme Fatale approves :thumbsup:


17:30:28 Oct 24th 13 - Mr. Salazar:

Once we realized you guys were mass nappers, we decided that we would need an lgc-style player base to handle the vast network of opponents. 


You'll find most of our cities wrecked, thanks. 


18:23:07 Oct 24th 13 - Mr. Iceworks Armageddon:

what mass nappers? we only NAPed femme and thats because that time none of us are active nor had the troops to fight every1 since most of us started late.. and we had ace and virus's knife on our neck at that time...


19:06:22 Oct 24th 13 - Lady Leila:

Salazar you gave up on this world many days ago, you started mentioning that you are dead long before even your north area fell. We were waiting for Fanta to start anyways then we are leaving this world, so this way its just gonna be slightly faster and easier, fine by us.

Can not really tell you anything as we did similar thing while back when we were facing many enemies, but I must say we might have had too many allies this era (allied to 13 people, fighting 12 people throughout the era) for a kingdom of only 4 people, that is not a bad statistics.

I would still like to thank you for good era, it was nice and interesting at times, out of protection time was really hectic for us, especially for me. Later we managed to get back to our feet, but that oop made us have to take more NAPS that it was really needed.



19:16:34 Oct 24th 13 - Lady Lara Croft:

Anyone has higher farming science?



Farming
Level 13
Upgrading will cost 2,024,145,654,000 gold and 202,414,565,400 food.


20:47:51 Oct 24th 13 - Ms. Kodachi:

impressive leila, you girls are a great team together :P


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