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Valhalla 57
22:32:07 Nov 20th 18 - Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

yoooo look who the cat dragged in :D


01:01:18 Nov 21st 18 - SFD (Duke Sfd Hybrid):

i thought i would make my yearly visit.
How are you and the rest of my KoH babes doing?


22:48:44 Nov 21st 18 - Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

same old, same old - killing the rest of the folks on Valhalla ...

how you been bud?


15:30:13 Nov 22nd 18 - Mr. Bigfield The Chairman:

Be advised, former members of Death Angels and White Flag, the Hammer and Shield Corporation will be arriving soon to retrieve previously misplaced assets.


19:49:55 Nov 22nd 18 - HorusPanic (Mr. Gritty):

Be advised.... your FORMER asset are under permanent protection from your greedy fingers.


20:38:23 Nov 22nd 18 - Mr. Bigfield The Chairman:

Thank you for safeguarding our Southern Holdings in the interrim. You may vacate the promises now.


16:53:19 Nov 24th 18 - Ms. Jasmina:

This one is over. 

Congrats to HnS, KoH and SW alliance on winning Valhalla.
Good luck everyone next era.


17:34:54 Nov 24th 18 - Mr. Bigfield The Chairman:

Maybe if you guys didn't attack literally everyone, it wouldn't have forced a trilateral alliance.... food for thought.


17:41:35 Nov 24th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Tarkin):

Lol. Let's not end it. Just kill them and keep it going. They just gave up and want a reset. 


17:59:55 Nov 24th 18 - Mr. Space Man Sam:

It is exactly that, you guys in The Synarchy, or whatever it is you're going by, attacked everyone and then were surprised when we banded together. What did you expect? 


18:00:20 Nov 24th 18 - Mr. Bigfield The Chairman:

We can cast Armageddon. I am certain that KoH could as well. I've no intention of relenting.

It is no strategy to overextend yourself in early combat and leave a wide Kingdom undefended. The Fabian strategy countered it easily.


18:00:20 Nov 24th 18 - Mr. Bigfield The Chairman:

We can cast Armageddon. I am certain that KoH could as well. I've no intention of relenting.

It is no strategy to overextend yourself in early combat and leave a wide Kingdom undefended. The Fabian strategy countered it easily.


19:36:48 Nov 24th 18 - Ms. Jasmina:

Nothing wrong with NAPing the entire map to fight a single enemy. I would still do everything the same, never been into Nap whoring. Rather fight till I die. 


Apologies for 70% of the kingdom going inactive near the end of era, combination of lack of time and boredom resulted in some people myself included taking a long break from VU at end of era.


19:41:46 Nov 24th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Tarkin):

Wait, I wanna cast Arma though.... I even made a city for it! 



21:30:26 Nov 24th 18 - Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

See you, Jasmina and your next kingdom ...


21:04:53 Nov 25th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Thrawn):

2 for 2 in Arma casts...


03:55:22 Nov 26th 18 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

You claim to victory was napping each other to fight 1 kd? Seriously. Think Zeta needs to delete maps and characters and leave it to Fant.


04:26:16 Nov 26th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Tarkin):

And there goes the "bling break shit" and here comes the "It's no fair that you're all our enemy when we attacked you"


04:39:32 Nov 26th 18 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

No, just not really a war game if no one "wars"

Guess I'll just wipe you all out again like last era.


07:23:31 Nov 26th 18 - Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

thats the spirit bling...

you still gonna end up dead, but that IS the spirit !


08:40:58 Nov 26th 18 - Venomz (High Warlord Hirohito):

Damn, imagine being attacked by multiple kingdoms just to beat u. That must suck, feel sorry for u Bling. Sucks to be good at the game


09:31:02 Nov 26th 18 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

I only need to point to HoH which shows 4 of the 6 players all coming from the same kd. Means rest of you are farmerfags


11:28:44 Nov 27th 18 - McMax (Battlemage Digitus Tertius III):

To the scoundrel, who has borrowed a dragon from Osiris:


Please get the beast under control and return it to its rightfull owner as soon as possible.


17:48:47 Nov 27th 18 - Phat (Mr. Slaughter of Laughter):

wait - you can control them?


20:04:10 Nov 28th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Thrawn):

Another Dragon on the loose -.-


Dragon (id=1891)



00:59:30 Nov 29th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Thrawn):

Sooo. Is this Osiris era? A third dragon appeared... Which leads to an interesting game desigs


At least two people have to be summoning...


09:50:28 Nov 29th 18 - Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

not necessarily mate ... one person can summon multiple dragons. If you know how to cast you can actually do a multiple cast that wont be that costly


14:40:17 Nov 29th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Tarkin):

Right, but with the number cast so far, I find it hard to believe it's just on mage.


19:36:33 Nov 29th 18 - All Might:

Fuck off Space Warriors with all the dragons


20:11:48 Nov 29th 18 - Mr. Ancient Abasiouny:

How bout an intanse WAR in last 6 days within All NAPed kds, instead of wasting time camping with armies.


14:37:07 Nov 30th 18 - McMax (Mr. Battlemage Mcmax):

This era should be known as the Dragons Era.

1 big dragon (with at least 7½M DP), 1 medium and 2 small.


Now my biggest wish is to see all those dragons fly northwest. My 2nd biggest is one I can't write here in public.



***
Unfortunately I posted it on the Fantasia forum first - but my opnion is still valid.


15:28:43 Nov 30th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Tarkin):

Wait. Accusing space warriors of the casts? I may be responsible for one. 


Not all three....


15:34:28 Nov 30th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Thrawn):

Wait. There's now 3 more. 


Damn. McMax been busy?


16:26:11 Nov 30th 18 - McMax (Mr. Battlemage Mcmax):

You just got a big red minus in my black book Mr. Phat.


18:14:02 Nov 30th 18 - All Might:


It was pretty obvious... Offensive Magic count as attacks

Naming Conventi

City Info
Owner:Mr. TokieKingdom Banner
Size:7420 building(s).
Kingdom:Kingdom of Heaven
Race:Elf
Gates:open

We have not attacked them and they have not attacked us.

This ruler owns more than three times as much land than we do.





Frete

City Info
Owner:Mr. EpiKingdom Banner
Size:26343 building(s).
Kingdom:Hammer and Shield
Race:Halfling
Gates:open

We have not attacked them and they have not attacked us.

This ruler owns more than three times as much land than we do.





Ragzy

City Info
Owner:Mr. RagnaarsonKingdom Banner
Size:64313 building(s).
Kingdom:Space Warriors
Race:Orc
Gates:open

We have not attacked them and they have attacked us.

This ruler owns more than three times as much land than we do.


18:31:36 Nov 30th 18 - Phat (Mr. Slaughter of Laughter):

Ah .that was actually an EITs...


Never cast on you for dragon. Used an inactive army from spam accounts. 

Again. Only sent one from me. We've seen 6


18:33:10 Nov 30th 18 - Phat (Mr. Slaughter of Laughter):

Bummed to hear that McMax. I'm quite fond of you as a KD mate, Ally and enemy. You're pretty fun. 


19:21:04 Nov 30th 18 - McMax (Battlemage Mcmax The Faithfull):

I have a damn long memory. Just ask Basio.


20:36:36 Nov 30th 18 - Phat (Grand Moff Thrawn):


McMax:

I have a damn long memory. Just ask Basio.



I'll call on you for that card matching game I used to play!


23:26:58 Dec 1st 18 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnaarson):

The reason more new people are not continuing playing this game is because of Valhalla. Its the only world "new players can play in from start"... This was the case way back when i first started, and seems to be even worse now. Im talking about the amount of  "solid players" in Valhalla. Steamrolling smaller "new KD's" instead of allowing them to build, and start figuring the game out for themselves. I wont begin to speculate why Valhalla has become such a competitive world to play in, but it should not be so. A quick fix? Communicate with those you are attacking, or players you suspect are nubs and instead of attacking them (because they are not in the same  KD) or some other BS excuse. Bring in new players to your KD's help them, teach them. Dont attack them. Not untill they have a grasp for the game and can compete and get addicted. If you steam roll a player on Val without chatting with them, and they turn out to be a brand new player who decides to continue on searching for other games instead of playing on in VU, then shame on you.


23:32:06 Dec 1st 18 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnaarson):

Also, guys... c'mon, dragons on Val? stop that.stop it.just stop.

There shall not be dragons. none. no more!


03:34:55 Dec 2nd 18 - Mr. Bigfield The Chairman:

I agree with that assessment, Ragnarson. 

That is why Hammer and Shield has a default peace with kingdoms and tagless players. 

We've had many players come in and out of Hammer and shield. But we are also more passive players. We welcome working alongside new players and helping them learn the ropes. 

In my opinion, Mantrax and Fantasia should be merged. Zetamania adds something unique to the mix, and Valhalla does as well, but nothing else. Mantrax and Fantasia are redundant. 


06:10:16 Dec 2nd 18 - McMax (Mr. Battlemage Mcmax):

Let Mantrax and Fantasia stay as they are. It's good to have two "serious" worlds open.



Let this world be open for training and learning/basic. No official rules, but shame on those, who steamroll new players. Put their names on a public list.

No attack on solo-players unless they write in public that they are ready and prepared. No dragons and no plague.

Wars between kingdoms should be agreed to by both (or all involved) kingdoms.



And then let Zetamania be the kingdom, where all dirty tricks/glitches what-ever may be used - including dragons and plague........  No out-shaming, no one complains, but questions can be asked (and maybe replied to).


06:43:50 Dec 2nd 18 - Mr. Ancient Basio:


McMax:

I have a damn long memory. Just ask Basio.


Yup he has very long memory. But i think he'll pardon me someday :)
McMax:

Let this world be open for training and learning/basic. No official rules, but shame on those, who steamroll new players. Put their names on a public list...


Agreed. I already saw Players noob bashing in Val.


13:42:04 Dec 2nd 18 - Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

So ... when i started this game, i was new and steamrolled many times over by the powerful kds ... i didnt quit, this motivated me to get better and better! I learned this game because I had to, in order to survive. In general, players that learn the game the difficult way always are slightly better than players that have their a$$es secured whether it is a top kingdom or multiple alliances.

However, I agree with the "do not attack" tagless players rule. We have this in KoH - never attack tagless people unless they provoke. Whether they are new or vets - tagless is tagless.

Also, if new players want to learn, they won't attack big kds on Valhalla and will  have the 50% rule ... If you build large - well, this is a proclamation that you are ready for battle.

What I am saying is that if you guys gonna make some agreement together in Valhalla, there is a chance KoH might not be a part of it, if it doesn't suit our preferences. Of course, if such agreement arises, you can rest assured that we will discuss this thoroughly. But the way we see things is simple - do not attack allies and tagless unless provoked, everyone and everything else is fair game (regardless of new or old players).


14:02:20 Dec 2nd 18 - Mr. Ancient Basio:


Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

... If you build large - well, this is a proclamation that you are ready for battle...


New players spawns Val directly & i doubt they even read forums or Know 50% rule. Basically they just play for few days n after gettin Killed, Leaves for good. As there tons of  war games nowadays. Most of 'em leave  just after spawning n seeing "No Tutorials" & "Old days graphics/ style"

You can see lots of New tagless in all Worlds gone inactive right after spawning, only few of 'em willings to contunue for few more days! But unfortunately gets Killed by Vets.


14:11:01 Dec 2nd 18 - Mr. Ancient Basio:

I'd also like to add, after requesting to Join a kd, it takes +24 hours & even more to get a response. And most Top kds just cancel the Request right off (newbies always wants to join with #1 kds unlike all games to get a headstart). Thats make 'em frustrated n leave.


02:14:47 Dec 3rd 18 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnaarson):

Chade man, all bragging aside, not everyone has your views (I also like to play against the best, and be challenged), but not everyone plays like that when they first join a game. Visual Utopia not "new player" friendly to begin with, surely "new player" un-friendly veterans will kill the game ... Basically your just screening out all the "never-will-be's" all the way up to "potentially skilled" players out of this game before they even had a chance, by trolling Val. I personally only went back to playing Val because so many players have left this game since i last played, its the only map I can find solid competition on anymore (and im sure I speak for many on that front), and maybe Mantrax as well (but i hear its been dying out).

50% rule alone is not enough to protect new players...

**When I say this game is not "new-user" friendly, im also saying its not all that user friendly all together. Reason is pretty simple. There needs to be some sort of spot to check your current effects on each (unit/city/etc) and when they leave effect (for example casting Magic Weapons on an army, it would be nice to see somewhere in that army's menu where it shows me that it has Magic Weapons, and would also be nice to see its current Op/Dp to see how things effect you exactly.) New players will have no clue what to do in this game, even if they read through the guides and forums first. Veterans only have, more of a, better "feel" as to how much spells and Sci effect you, and how to calculate Op/Dp with pencil and paper...)


07:16:50 Dec 3rd 18 - Duke Chade of The Waterfall:

This feature is available to sponsored players ... pay some money - and you can see not only the effects of spells on armies and cities but you can do all sorts of other stuff like scout terrain to determine the size of the city before you even build it


21:50:31 Dec 3rd 18 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnaarson):

There are way easier ways to make lots more money off this game than holding those options back to paid players only. Everyone, especially the new players would need those numbers to help figure out the game and get addicted. I love Zeta, great person, but that whole play to get the full features is not a good business plan for an online game at all. Would make more money off advertisements. You want to see each effect? watch 10 advertisements this age. Say if there is 100 people on a map, thats 1000 paid clicks per age for zeta.

Anyways, i think we all can agree that we want more competition. In order for that to happen, we need changes, we need Zeta to make enough money from this game to make it worth his time, and we need new players to discover the game and stay. Period.


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