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death to zeon
16:11:56 Sep 26th 07 - Sir Fizban:

But no huge merges. Besides, the Legacians had great names for each of our 3-man kds. ;-)


16:37:47 Sep 26th 07 - Lord Yerean:

Music is actually doing pretty good, holding us off with some 6mil def merger..
BoW, disregard their size, farming, GoD's core-ownage, etc, is just holding a blocker and pickin off what's left after Messiah's 40k nazzie army....
Nemesis is sending some 200k axe armies against Legacy's 100k armies, but still is failing to take over for obscure reasons. (ya, i mean, if you kill lgc/db, you'd have to fight zeon,bow,music... so let's let lgc/db live)..
FF magically managed to deviate messiah 40k nazzies...
PKS is... um... working
Carnage is (of course, bravely fighting against all evil :P) goin defensive...
Lgc,DB are doin great as always...
MAD quit the war with DB after seeing how powerful a 4 army DB merger can be...


That's it for the news.


16:54:15 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Sun:

interesting observations..... but what is this one u were refering to?

"Nemesis is sending some 200k axe armies against Legacy's 100k armies, but still is failing to take over for obscure reasons. (ya, i mean, if you kill lgc/db, you'd have to fight zeon,bow,music... so let's let lgc/db live).."

that sure sounds like a "large" scaled war....


18:00:49 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Yerean, I'm not attacking FF coz then Natalia wouldnt want to cyber me anymore. So I'm going for Carnage instead, you guys also sent me alot of msgs telling me how much u <3 me.


19:14:11 Sep 26th 07 - Lord Yerean:

messiah, i never said you're attackin FF did I now?

sun, um, it is a large scale war... there were like 10 500k armies from nemesis in Lgc territory not too long ago (what happend to them??)


19:16:13 Sep 26th 07 - Ms. Natalia:

No he just felt like adding that, and not anymore messiah, its more like i would have never done anything with you.


19:29:04 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Durza The Destroyer:

BoW farming?? lol that's unfair, we have been fighting all era, we havn't taken an ounce of time to farm!


19:56:21 Sep 26th 07 - Sir Fizban:

They died a horrible death for daring to harm mighty Lgc. ;-)


21:41:12 Sep 26th 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

Yerean U Have a interesting theory. But why the hell would we do that LOL.
doesnt makes sence if we wanted to avoid Zeon war we would have Preposed a Nap instead of Nutral.

ANd about that Large scale Army. it was lost deu to a exident witch isnt funny.


21:48:00 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Rock Hard Reginald:

Actually, I disagree. It was hilariously funny.


21:50:47 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Spankylicious:

+1 for Rock Hard!


21:52:40 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Elsin:

Have to admit I laughed a fair bit.

Nemesis multies deleted. Now this ;)


22:02:44 Sep 26th 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

LOL You guy's were just verry lucky.


22:50:00 Sep 26th 07 - Sir Frederick:

<al-sahhaf-mode> We defeated the infidels of Nemesis mercilessly and with swift and utter destruction. </al-sahhaf-mode>


23:02:32 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Asystole:

"The infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Sell Fish... Be assured, Sell Fish is safe, protected. Legacy players are heroes."


23:26:56 Sep 26th 07 - Mr. Rock Hard Reginald:

It's a bit like siege warfare. Except, instead of bombarding them with dead corpses, we bombarded them with Romanians until they surrendered en mass. :)))


04:41:20 Sep 27th 07 - Duke Ranfaf:

Xuaron.....Carnage has been fighting since we have gotten OOP. Now where did I insult a Kingdom besides ZEON. I only said Nemises farmed, never said it was bad. I never said anything bad about any Kingdom besides ZEON.

SOOOOOOOO basically you're staying BoW, ZEON, and Music just don't have the balls to attack Nemises. I can understand Music, maybe even BoW, but ZEON has farmed as long as Nemises and that would be a good war.

That was the ONLY time I mentioned Nemises


09:50:13 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Onuris:

Ranfaf, we wont invade a KD that is already fighting another war. Especially not when they asked us not to.

-Rob


14:45:52 Sep 27th 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

well ranfaf i would agree that it would be a good war.


14:48:10 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Sun:

Mr. Onuris

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9/27/2007 3:50:13 AM
Ranfaf, we wont invade a KD that is already fighting another war. Especially not when they asked us not to.

-Rob

 

not everyone thinks like you ;) *JUMPS THE GUN ONTO WHOEVER*


15:08:08 Sep 27th 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

lol we already noticed that Sun :P


15:27:41 Sep 27th 07 - Dreadlord Valarion:

*copies a few pages of similar messages from recent eras since he cant be bothered to type new ones...and nobody would notice the difference anyway*

 

I see the traditional end-of-era W(h)inefest has commenced. Care for some cheese?:)


15:36:51 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Love:

Cya next era


16:10:05 Sep 27th 07 - Lord Yerean:

Mr. Onuris Report 9/27/2007 9:50:13 AM Ranfaf, we wont invade a KD that is already fighting another war. Especially not when they asked us not to. -Rob hey!! Carnage is already fighting against BoW and Music, and we've asked you not to fight us! you liar.... >_<


16:17:29 Sep 27th 07 - Lord Yerean:

ANd about that Large scale Army. it was lost deu to a exident witch isnt funny.


ohh maaan, I *MUST* hear the tale!!


16:28:30 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Yerean, actually you asked us to fight you!


16:47:54 Sep 27th 07 - Guildmaster Drenthinio:

Yerean, just PUSH THE BUTTON!!


16:49:10 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Blue Dog Anchorite:

Naerey hasnt had his usual 5 cups of coffee yet, dont mind him:P

Obviously we have to fight zeon as well, they are mapd to bow/music;)


19:15:28 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

You are very childish Tally. Ask not what the kingdom can do for you, ask what you can do for the kingdom. But you dont think like that, you are lazy and want to be Queen, and becouse I dont bend for your will I am a pushover(???). Either way, since you stated on IRC that you are ready to betray us. We'll just do it like we usually do and kick your butt before you can do us any dmg.

[19:05] talia: i will(join FF, my note) next era
[19:06] Augh: ok, this is what we will do. leave Zeon for now. I'll post up that we wont attack you
[19:07] talia: I'll stay till the end of the era
[19:07] *** Onuris has joined #zeon.
[19:07] talia: or i will have to attack you guys for my honour
[19:08] Augh: your "honour"?
[19:08] talia: and i don't actually want to hurt you
[19:08] Augh: what are you talking about?
[19:08] talia: yes
[19:08] Onuris: ok but do know that if you make the first move you loe honour
[19:08] talia: you cast arma when i wanted to
[19:08] Onuris: Mcikan also wanted to
[19:08] Onuris: Its quite popular
[19:08] Onuris: :(
[19:08] talia: so i have to stop you and do it myself, so i might as well stay
[19:08] *** talia has left #zeon.


19:50:38 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Soccermage:

who is that woman?


19:51:42 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Onuris:

She is Natalia ingame.

-Rob


19:56:39 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Onuris:

Stay tuned for the next eposide of ZEONs'


20:34:00 Sep 27th 07 - Guildmaster Drenthinio:

@ Xuaron:
And this is Not treu. We are naped whit only 2 KD's witch are Mad and Carnage

We are on the otherhand Nutral to Zeon, Bow and Music. witch some also see as A Nap. but it isnt.


and then u say:


as we agreed whit zeon to extend anny war between our 2 KD's till the war whit LGC/DB is over. as that is no secret to anyone..

doesn't this mean that u r napped till u defeated us and lgc, which will be never!!!!!   ??  :P


20:49:23 Sep 27th 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

As i sad some ppl wil see that as a Nap But there is a difference between the 2

Naps are Relationships to help eatch other out in some surcomstances and Nutral Is just No attacking.

If u think otherwise u may But im only saying that that is my opinion about the diference between a Nap and Nutral


20:50:27 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Sun:

Crazy Xuaron

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9/27/2007 2:49:23 PM
As i sad some ppl wil see that as a Nap But there is a difference between the 2

Naps are Relationships to help eatch other out in some surcomstances and Nutral Is just No attacking.

If u think otherwise u may But im only saying that that is my opinion about the diference between a Nap and Nutral

 

do u know what NAP and MAP actually stand for?

helping each other out is MAP, mutual assistance pact

neutral is NAP, non aggression pact

.......


21:01:21 Sep 27th 07 - Crazy Xuaron:

lol Seems that ive made a mistake there LOL Lets start over again LOL

In that case. Yes that kinda means were Naped till we Defeat/CF/Nap, DB/LGC
and in that case were Maped whit Mad and Carnage.


21:06:29 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Rock Hard Reginald:

Sun is spot on there. There is a distinct difference between the two, as the naming stipulates.

It seems rather obvious to me that you're actually rather ashamed to admit you've NAP'ed so many kingdoms up there, Xuaron. Rather than admit you have NAP'ed the lot of them, you seem more interested in trying to bend the meaning of the terms NAP and MAP, despite the obvious fatal flaw with the naming conventions and what they've grown to mean.

Be a man. Don't be embarrassed by all those relations you made. :)))


21:25:52 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Actually, it is a CF. Not very big a diff really. But there are a few clear diff's.


21:33:30 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Rock Hard Reginald:

It's a ceasefire is it?

Well, if it's a ceasefire, then you must tell me of the war that preceded it! When did Nemesis start fighting BoW, Zeon and Music? Why did either side halt the aggressive actions? How many losses were there for either side? Really, I'm intrigued about this war, I hadn't heard of it taking place until now, but now that you say you guys agreed to a CF, then there must of been a war before it for the agreement to actually be a CF.  Tell me about it. :)


21:47:02 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Asystole:

I don't see any of the northern KDs attacking LGC either so should I assume you guys NAPed them too? Just face it, you're not getting anywhere trying to incite things between Nem and ZEON by flaming here. Maybe you should look within your own KD as to why your war didn't go that well instead of making excuses.


21:57:53 Sep 27th 07 - Lord Epyon:

I will destroy all....


....from Zeta

;D


22:00:52 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Rock Hard Reginald:

We already analysed the war.

  • We war Carnage, MAD and PKS out of protection.
  • Nemesis makes agreements with all the nearest kds not to fight them.
  • Nemesis whores.
  • Nemesis marches to DB after a couple weeks exploring, 300-400% our power by this time.
  • Nemesis starts attacking.

Nothing else to it. We've made no deal with the northern kds. You have. You call your relations with them an assortment of terms, but all it ever amounts to is a conditional NAP.

So to put it bluntly, Nemesis NAP'ed the vast majority of the kingdoms near it, then explored, then warred two already weakened kingdoms. Hence why there has been a lot of people in this thread stating their dislike of the current trend in VU, with a number of kingdoms whoring and NAPing their way through the round. It never used to be like this, it certainly was never a kind of game we encouraged and I know it's cliche to say it, but the old days of VU were far better than this drivel.


22:01:17 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Onuris:

Nemesis and MAD asked us not to attack Lgc and DB. So they cannot claim they got beaten by more then 2 KDs.

-Rob


22:07:49 Sep 27th 07 - Lord Epyon:

It's Nemesis' first era

they're just doing what they think is best and trying to do well

and I'd say its working ;)


22:08:49 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Sun:

Crazy Xuaron

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9/27/2007 3:01:21 PM
lol Seems that ive made a mistake there LOL Lets start over again LOL

In that case. Yes that kinda means were Naped till we Defeat/CF/Nap, DB/LGC
and in that case were Maped whit Mad and Carnage.

you are what? MAPed with Carnage ? Does that mean carnage attack whoever you attack ;P

 

Mr. Asystole

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9/27/2007 3:47:02 PM

I don't see any of the northern KDs attacking LGC either so should I assume you guys NAPed them too? Just face it, you're not getting anywhere trying to incite things between Nem and ZEON by flaming here. Maybe you should look within your own KD as to why your war didn't go that well instead of making excuses.

Thats a bit..... bending the words around...... nobody is trying to incite riots for nemesis and zeon.... my own KD? we like warring, so constantly warring put us at a disadvantage when a much bigger opponent comes to interfere. (MAD would've disappeared off the face of earth if you did not interfere twice already, but thats beside the point, and i am not flaming you or mad for it. war is fun and cruel at the same time)

Mr. Messiah

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9/27/2007 3:25:52 PM
Actually, it is a CF. Not very big a diff really. But there are a few clear diff's.

so... im curious about when the war happened too... well actually im not. the point is if it is a NAP... it is just a NAP (even if its just under some conditions)... no big deal...... lets just be frank to each other, no need to hide in shame :) there is no shame in clever diplomacy.

p.s. a lot of ppl just want the game to be more fun. back in utopia, when mega allianced consisted of pure SK appears, the game changed and got more and more boring with stagnation (100k utopian players back then down to 30k now?!) I really do not want to see this game go towards that direction.

p.p.s guys! read up on my suggestion topic :) give some good feedbacks and ideas! the game can improve!


22:14:30 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Asystole:

I think you're missing the point Sun. LGC/DB have the same relations with ZEON as Nemesis. Nothing more, nothing less.


22:15:40 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Sun:

point taken.

then i assume it is zeon who is too "pu55y" to war you guys, kudo to you and kitties to zeon. =þ


22:24:18 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Asystole:

I wouldn't say it's cause ZEON is too scared to fight. They made an agreement, would you have them break it? I think that would be quite dishonorable. Maybe looking back ZEON wishes they hadn't NAPed so many KDs but there's not much they can do now (other than Armageddon, which they did).


22:28:06 Sep 27th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

I stated it earlier: We though LGC would be dead by now and that we'd have Nem armies at our blockers.

These are just my defenitions:
NAP = Friendly relations, helps eachother out.
CF = Hostile but agreed not to attack eachother for certain #time.

(Ohh, and we <3 both Nem and LGC)
(And I told LGC we wouldnt meddle, you knew since long, so dont wajn)


22:29:09 Sep 27th 07 - Lord Epyon:

<3 Messiah


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