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kingdoms in Fantasia II
18:44:43 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Soccer:

case closed, new era please!


19:05:18 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Justanius Fontaini:

lolz ye they diserve it they olayed well


20:15:45 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Iwasfrozen IV:

Pred will beat LW!!!


21:17:32 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Stupidity:

Look! Frosty has spoken .. muhahahahaha What happen to you, my pal, last era? Couldn`t you get over some two ppl kd? over some Fluffy bunnies? To much for the Preds? too fast? :)))


21:31:34 Jul 14th 07 - Duchess Samus:

Mr. Iwasfrozen IV

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7/14/2007 11:10:12 AM
LW Luna Wolves 24 Mr. Zorkhana 297
Havoc Carnage 31 Sir Echion 288

 

Lol LW are stronger than Havoc.

Well, as that is very flattering, I'm going to have to say it doesn't mean anything.  As many people already know, and has been stated in other threads, comparing Mantrax to Fantasia is like comparing a chicken to an apple (interesting simile isn't it ;))


21:54:40 Jul 14th 07 - Sir Grim Darkhammer:

I like the wading pool to a shark tank analogy.


21:56:11 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

this is my table. not based on favorites but the actions of those in the kingdoms 

1. Havoc Carnage 31 Sir Echion

2.Abydos Abydos 19 Dark Lord Finwe

3. Phi Empire 24 Mr. Mavich The Cloner

4. RED Red Hand 17

Admiral Krum

5. M Mirror 21 Duke Azaruc

6. TMD The Merchants of Death 14

Mr. Shadeslayer

 

7. PKS Peacekeeper 12 Mr. Joram Negus
and the rest depends on how things work out. I know there some flaws in this chart, but I base it on performance, some will move up as well as fall down.

 


21:58:25 Jul 14th 07 - Dark Lord Finwe:

i would place us top tbh considering carnage does have 31 members and only a little more power then phi/zeon/ I didnt know carnage had done anything yet? 


22:07:59 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

I have exp, since I always judge not by the number of people but by their actions. lets say you had an 100K army of knights and went up against an army of about 20 - 30k nagzuls. You would have a percentage of around 45% and both your military lvls are the same. I deduct points off which makes  brings down your kingdom overall score. There is a saying one mans mistakes can cost his groups life. This is how I came up with this table


22:09:56 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Draven:

what has phi or zeon done? i know phi did fight db. (i'm not flaming as my intel this era sucks, don't take it as an insult) as for Carnage, we have taken out many smaller kingdoms and now are preparing to battle jester it seems. and no i haven't been able to keep up with the forums due to work.


22:10:55 Jul 14th 07 - Dark Lord Finwe:

issac how could that work unless you see everything all kds do?


22:16:40 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Draven:

don't get me wrong, i respect phi, when our kingdom's have collided it has always been a stale mate, neither side really gained or lost anything, phi are as good as us when it comes to trench warring that i will admit.i know phi wars, but they also know we war.


22:18:00 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

I said it maybe flawed, but something tells me near the end many great kingdoms will fall. It could happen to carnage or even the kingdom I'm in mirror even though it already happened to us. See Zeon wont be up their because if jester fall so will they. Im not saying they would. If jester wins this war against Carnage. then mirror and carnage will be removed from the list. it all depends on the out come of this war who would be on this list. I willnot add naps nor mapps of other kingdoms. I put out info which everyone should already know and nothing else    


22:20:03 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

@ Finwe, no I dont see everything but I hear it through my connections of friends.


22:26:04 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

what happened to soccorjester or something like that


22:28:38 Jul 14th 07 - Mr. Dakarius:

he is now known as soccer.


22:42:58 Jul 14th 07 - Dark Lord Finwe:

See Zeon wont be up their because if jester fall so will they. Im not saying they would. If jester wins this war against Carnage. then mirror and carnage will be removed from the list. it     You seem to be missing a few people out of the picture


23:42:13 Jul 14th 07 - Ms. Persephone:

@Finwe: What makes you certain that all 31 members in Carnage are active? If you were to take away all members who are not playing this era (but we keep them in there because they like to talk on our forums) or those who are on 3 week-month long summer vacation, then our number of active players actually hovers around 21....but this is a problem most every kingdom is experiencing from my understanding, VU in summertime sux;)

 

(or it could be jealousy that some are on vacation and I am not:(

 

Granted Carnage has fought mainly smaller kingdoms, consindering that was all in our starting area, but i guess some just choose to ignore the armies that we have sent against abydos/zeon/jesters (nevermind abydos has slaughtered our merges thus far;) good going guys)

 

And I guess I will have to get on my soapbox again about trying to predict kingdom rankings on Fant. It is useless. Things change fast on Fant and oftentimes the map at the end of the era is much more different than when it started (with the obvious one of legacy usually controlling most of the map;)


00:44:48 Jul 15th 07 - Lord Eleutherios:

* Great, now it is really confirmed that my diplomat is out of the retirement home. Where are the restraining suits when you need them? Wait, Carnage is still paying the quacks at the home! *

Dark Lord, I have the deepest respect for you. But this is an academic exercise which has no practical consequences. However, if you want to make this personal, I guess that is your view. Carnage has been warring, but every war has a lull in tempo. We have also learnt that it is fool-hardy to rush everything when the tide favourable for us.

And of course, since everyone in Carnage is on vacation, you can take our undefended cities and slander us in the forums. But once we are back, you will know what will happen.

Silence is golden, especially when applied to politics. Action is key, especially when applied to war.


00:59:49 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Sloth:

Blah blah vacation inactive etc. Abydos doesn't have 19 uber active players either.


01:06:47 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Deadly Doughnut:

It's the middle of summer who's got a kd full of active people?  Show me a full active kd and i'll show you a group of pastey white people.


01:19:30 Jul 15th 07 - Ms. Persephone:

@sloth: And noone was saying abydos had nothing but uber active players, now were they? Like I said, I believe most every kingdom has cases of inactive players...including abydos. I was just poitning out that you cant go by how many members are listed in a kingdom...

@Doughnut: Damn, does that mean I have to find a kingdom with other pastey white people?

@Eluetherios: Your funny words hurt my brain^^


01:43:32 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Zerocool:

ISAAC: "See Zeon wont be up their because if jester fall so will they."

im just wondering..... WHY???


01:49:23 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Atreides:

    @Isaac You're saying that Jester WILL fall? Are you sure? What makes you think so?


02:01:19 Jul 15th 07 - Dark Lord Finwe:

And of course, since everyone in Carnage is on vacation, you can take our undefended cities and slander us in the forums. But once we are back, you will know what will happen.    What makes you think we are going to slander you and what makes you think you will destroy us when your not inactive? :D


02:10:22 Jul 15th 07 - Ms. Persephone:

Nope Osi you have it wrong man. Its going to be our INACTIVITY thats going to kill everyone on the map!!!

 

Bwuhahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahah!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

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02:23:20 Jul 15th 07 - Sir Echion:

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7/15/2007 12:59:49 AMBlah blah vacation inactive etc. Abydos doesn't have 19 uber active players either..


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BWAHAHAHA
BWHAHAAHHWUAUHA
WHUAHAHHAHAHA

ok enough.


Sloth, i know as Abydos its hard getting good members.. i feel sorry for you :(
Just look at us being big.. What downsides does being big have when all active and communicating?

ok ok 1.. Massive sex talk on forums!
*looks at Persephone*

+ sides
More armies
More fun
More active people
MMM!!!

Now you just told us your recruitment plan either suckz or you dont want to recruit cause you don`t see a reason to.

Anyways, do not judge in numbers.
I know that our members are inactive or not even playing this era but if you want to give reasons for us being the coolest kingdom in VU then just ask Duke Dork why we are cool, he will show you ^^

Oh, dont talk.. fight..
You guys suck at talking so get your asses back to the battlefield.

Now... flame post ftw?


Give me reactions on this please!
Give me more to flame!


02:47:43 Jul 15th 07 - Ms. Persephone:

<sighs>

Venomz, how the hell did you get out of our dungeon?

Abydos probably dont need to recruit because noone can handle the sexiness that is Oya^^

And i dont know if anyone can handle looking on Dork's uhmmm....awesome appendage......


03:25:29 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

@ zero.. Like I said its flawed it depends on who wins the war. I wont choose either side, but I kind of going for carnage since I seen a 50K army with 10K swordsmans mixed with other troops and even some of your people I cant remember is still below military lvl 5 or was. things like this you have to take into account and that 100- 200K army please you cant take out a medium kingdom with it. I know it has nagzuls and things like that, but it is weak to my standards.This is not aflame just the truth about how I score people. remember I never underestimate people. Nor I plan to do it to jester. I would still like to fight soccor again, was very exciting to see axmen go against knights and cats ;)


04:20:37 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Bluewrath:

Isaac you underestimated LW last era... and guess what happened. Luna won.

 


04:33:55 Jul 15th 07 - Sir Bruto Cikayson:

"what has phi or zeon done? i know phi did fight db."

Zeon has fought against LGC, Predators, and Peacekeepers.  As well as a few Carnage surges, but if you want to say Zeon hasn't charged head-first into any major wars yet, sure.

"ISAAC: "See Zeon wont be up their because if jester fall so will they."

im just wondering..... WHY???"

This is typical for when one shares a core.  At worst, Jester is Zeon's outer line of defense.  However, Abydos has not yet been added into the equation.

 


04:34:47 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

No I won. You could not touch me.Youburnt a city here and there, but I still had about 10 citys out of 30 citys you burnt. so i did fiarly well against about 1 million troops against my little dwalf troops of 100K. I just underestimated Chwaa. I should have been killed him and more then triple my economy which wasjust 1.5 million when you invaded me.I should have put more effort in defence and did not expect you would make the long trip up north. if you looked at the ranks I was still alive. How come 6 people could not take out one person. Shame I have to laugh now lol.... thats why luna wolves did not come to fantasia. My word is my word. Itold you I would kill your kingdom in 1 week but you ran to mantrax, next era come to fantasia. it will be mee against you guys. Still creating 500K armies of lvl 1 troops. The only challenge I faced in starta was Chwaa and Soccor jester so dont ever say Luna won. I made head lines in yur kingdom even though I was 40 ticks form your core.I wonder if we were at peace with Royal Pirates and Jester I would have invaded your core. Know I have to go and Kill jester. LOL :0


04:41:19 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Sigheart:

Jester Pwned you this era get over it.


04:48:12 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

No like I said last era  no one owns me.Those who clam they do Shall be killed in 2 weeks, but in luna case there was 1 week left. it feel't like GvE again but with 1 good and 6 evil. Jester I sworn yougot whiped out by Luna and I guess those 2 or 3 traitors did not help you at all. Nor no one Pwned me. I had an 26K axmen comong for your armies. then the next turn we had a traitor in mirror who wipped some of mycitys out. then I divided my invasion army into 8 Armies of 3K and some with more.Thats allI haveto say to defendmy case. I speak only the truth 


04:54:13 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Sigheart:

26K very impressive one problem it was 10 turns away in 10 turns we had about the equivalent of 40K axeman in your core and your blockers were down.


05:04:55 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

yes I took al my troops out becuase I could not face 2 100K armies from Royal Pirates at the same time of your invasion, and plus those blocker was not suppose to keep you out but the RP. Then I heard you was warring Rp so I knew Rp wouldnot takeme out since to get to them you had to get through me.andthose other blockers i had put in the south was to slow chwaa down so I could by me sometimeto take out Soccor from my area. andthose other people who were Shoug did not have much troops execpt one person who I was guiding and which I helped out. so tell more lies I ruled that world. Luna named about 10 armies on how I would die and also copied from me since my army names tell what Im about to do with them. and for someone who started2 weeks late. I did well against that 10K yousentat me when I was just 4 days out of protection. Those citys i took ruined my economy since I had like 200K buildings with an income of just 90K,and could not train hordes of troops


05:08:33 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Enyalius:

oh shut up Sigheart, Mirror could of handled Jester any day, any time if it wasn't for Condinho, whom you (as in Jester) is sheltering.

BTW Bluewrathe, Isaac has the right to underestimate Jester.....because a Starta KD whiped them out last era ;-).


05:10:36 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Sigheart:

Were killing him right now. Second no Mirror couldn't handle us you can't fight a war if you have to protect 5 WALL. Though we only exploited  2 of them. Condihno broke out yes But he broke out once we had taken the blocker. Condihno or no Condihno we would have won, it just would have taken longer.


05:13:25 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

dont worry I will get him. no one takes a cheap shot like that. I would have stopped him right there but jester came burting in at the same time. Jester your kingdom is weak. How could you let luna whip you out. They had to to try to kill me but still failed. shamefull in a way to both of ya'll kingdoms, since I still was alive and ranked 41 or 42


05:14:51 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

oh did I forget you still did not kill me even with Condinho helping


05:15:55 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Sigheart:

*cough*sore loser*cough* Yes you could have beaten Condihno if we hadn't broken through but he used us to because he knew we would break through and when we did he would take advantage of it.


05:17:57 Jul 15th 07 - Duchess Samus:

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7/14/2007 11:13:25 PM
dont worry I will get him. no one takes a cheap shot like that. I would have stopped him right there but jester came burting in at the same time. Jester your kingdom is weak. How could you let luna whip you out. They had to to try to kill me but still failed. shamefull in a way to both of ya'll kingdoms, since I still was alive and ranked 41 or 42
Are you saying that 41 or 42 is good?  I bet you could have like 50k land and get that on Starta.  If you don't finish at least in the top 20 in Starta then you suck.(I should probly say top ten but I'm feeling generous today)


05:19:43 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

as well as you did. I had a choice to go after your armies or music, I chsse music but one you cam throughour failed wally with that gap I turned my army around and started to head towards that crappy army of ya'lls then condinho left mirror. need more info on who I was suppose to invade you guys or not. 


05:23:16 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Enyalius:

Samus shut up.....I can suspect that you finished first in Starta last era? Well here is a piece of info for you. I finished 15th.....nothing to be proud of besides the fact I came into Starta with only 100-150 or so ticks to go. I still got 1/3 of your score. Now if I spent all of the time in Starta I would of creamed you. Also I don't see you in Fantasia......oh wait because you're in Mantrax!


05:24:49 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Sigheart:

Hey some people want to practice before going to Fantasia.


05:24:56 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

no Im not proud. I was suppose to be in the top 5 but with the triple war my kingdom was in worked against me and even some players because theycould not defend those blockers I put upin the south. But if you look at it I did do well since I with stood about 1 week and a half warring about 8 people, who was suppose to kill me but failed,with  armiesfrom 50K to around 500K. i did very well. now I must work on my plans now  


05:29:16 Jul 15th 07 - Duchess Samus:

Yes, I am fairly new to this game.  So to go on Fantasia last era would have been suicide.  I am trying to get my strategy polished this era so next era hopefully I can go to Fantasia.


05:30:00 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

go practice I just became inactive twice, first was when I was gone for 2days and my vice kiked everyone out and my kingdom got disbanded and then attacked me, the other time was when my Pc went down. thatshow I got there. I had madea promise not to go there again and rule it again, but I did. thats why zeta let the scores still roll while armagaden is cast, because I was the strongest in starta but my score was 69 Like I just started or something during it.


05:34:05 Jul 15th 07 - Sir Bruto Cikayson:

What, he let people have their score after Arma because of you and you alone?

Strongest with Starta with a score of 69?


05:37:07 Jul 15th 07 - Mr. Isaac:

no I guess others talked to him as well. I was pissed off when I was the weakest one even though my was the strongest because of me. I fought 4 kingdoms by myself and won


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