Forums / Miscellaneous Discussions / A big debate, on the chat box!

[21:24] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: I am a born again christian, I am a sinner, and i have repented of all my sins, how about that? beet it!
[21:24] Mr. The Gladiator: sorra, the muslims will put you to work
[21:24] Mr. Sorra: You said that you hate the moslim religon and would rather a girl be prez just because the dudes a moslim. Even though he has the best ideas for the nation you sure cant have him in office cause you know, "dem moslims are after us white men"
[21:25] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: glitch
[21:25] Mr. The Gladiator: they come from their countries and put you to work in your own country
[21:25] Mr. Sorra: ARe you reatred......going to work is good....you get $$$
[21:25] Mr. The Gladiator: haha
[21:25] Mr. The Gladiator: work for me then
[21:26] Mr. The Gladiator: 100 bucks to clean my toilet
[21:26] Mr. Sorra: sorry, i dont work for un-intelligent *beep*s....id rather work for a rock
[21:26] Mr. Sorra: just moving it around
[21:26] Mr. The Gladiator: you get $$$
[21:26] Mr. Sorra: But *beep*s liek you dont have $100
[21:26] Mr. The Gladiator: hit yourself in the head...50 bucks each time
[21:27] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: and my comment up there was compleatly ignored! Hello!?!?! I throw gilt into each one of your hearts, that is why you ignore what i said
[21:27] Mr. Bob The Builder: He's not Muslim *beep*s
[21:28] Mr. Bob The Builder: he's Hawaian
[21:28] Mr. Bob The Builder: His father is Kenyan and he is a Baptist
[21:28] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: You feal the preseince of the Lord God you savoir, and yet you ignore it, dont you feel it tuging at your heart?
[21:28] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: your*
[21:28] Mr. Sorra: lol...have you been abused as a child? Thats the only conclustion i come to when i read what you write. Iv seen rats smarter then you. AT least they can navigate there way through a maze while you on the other hand, are just an angry young boy with no intellegence
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[21:29] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: which one are you talking to?
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[21:29] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: me or bob?
[21:29] Mr. The Gladiator: sorra, youre the youngboy
[21:29] Mr. The Gladiator: I can tell
[21:29] Mr. Sorra: all of you asholes who hate Obama for just cause his religon. Even though he ha sthe best ideas
[21:29] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: No, im acutaly 15
[21:30] Mr. The Gladiator: he's got bad ideas
[21:31] Mr. Sorra: Gladiator said Bush is smart. Gladiator now has no credibility on this subject. Its as simple as that
[21:31] Mr. The Gladiator: he's undecided about many things or sometimes improvements his mind till his advisors ive him pointers
[21:31] Mr. Fivestaropitz: YES! BUSH IS
[21:32] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: in the bible it says: You are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, and not of works, lest anyone should boast.!
[21:32] Mr. The Gladiator: sora how old are you?
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[21:33] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Gladiator, you are an ignorant racist
[21:34] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: stop posioning the young minds here
[21:34] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: somewhere deep inside you, you feal Jesus's hand moving in your life. Look towards him and beleive, he died on the cross for your sins and has risen again to take the keys of hell and unlock the gate. He welcomes you with open arms into the kingdom of God.
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[21:35] Mr. The Gladiator: how old are you sorra
[21:35] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: He is giving a gift to you, a free gift. accept it and believe in Him.
[21:35] Mr. Sorra: Guess what Ambrosias...I dont really give a *beep* what you say.
[21:36] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: yet you ignore the words of Jesus, he is yet nocking on the door of your heart
[21:36] Mr. Fivestaropitz: *cough*gladiatorwantstogetsorra*cough*
[21:36] Mr. Sorra: because the bible says hate all people who are not white christans (this is what Ambrosias thinks)
[21:37] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: you will feel the presience of Jesus hovering over you all along your life
[21:37] Mr. Sorra: lol...does Jesus hate non-white people?
[21:37] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: pwnt... pwnt
[21:37] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: He loves everyone
[21:38] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: he loves you and so do i, as a brother
[21:38] Mr. The Gladiator: read books and get smart you fool
[21:38] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: For God said, Love your neighbor as you would Love yourselves
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[21:38] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: nabor?
[21:38] Mr. Sorra: ok then Shut the *beep* up...he if he love sme i dont you need you telling me.
[21:38] Mr. The Gladiator: what a huge incult question
[21:38] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: nahbor*
[21:38] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: ?
[21:39] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: and he is the one who says read books....
[21:39] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: you get what I’m saying... gosh
[21:39] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: God said love your enemies
[21:40] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis:
[21:40] Mr. Bob The Builder: enough from both of you....you're playing a battle simulator....one needs to find the KKK forum...the other is in totally the wrong place
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[21:40] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Sorra, whoever your name is, God will find you. He is searching for you
[21:41] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Go to him and accept his almighty Love for you
[21:41] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: God is made of love
[21:41] Mr. Bob The Builder: Son....stop preaching the sermon on the hill...
[21:41] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: And he has plenty of it for you
[21:41] Mr. The Gladiator: sorra dumbass read books youre less than 10 probably, you can't compare yourself with older people
[21:42] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Did God not tell his Diciples to go unto the world and teach the people His words?
[21:42] Mr. Bob The Builder: not on the forum he didnt
[21:43] Mr. Sorra: LOL "God will find you. He is searching for you" Me and good are playing hide and seek. it will take a while though. WHat a retard, why would god need to serch for me? SHouldent he just know where i am? But then again, this is coming from Ambrosias who doesnt make much sense on a regular bases anyways
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[21:43] Mr. The Gladiator: sorra how old are you?
[21:43] Mr. Bob The Builder: This conversations going a bit pearshaped
[21:44] Mr. The Gladiator: do you know that i am 18 and probably twice your age?
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[21:44] Mr. Sorra: lol Gladiator...you dont need to know...
[21:44] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Jesus has already found you, but you are not accepting him as your savior
[21:44] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Jesus is searching for your heart
[21:44] Mr. The Gladiator: stop insulting me cuz you've yet got to get smart
[21:44] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: not your body
[21:44] Mr. Bob The Builder: and i'm almost twice your age Glad
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[21:45] Mr. The Gladiator: cool, are you married?
[21:45] Mr. Sorra: lol shouldent he know that my heart is in the left side of my body? Why serch?
[21:45] Mr. Bob The Builder: no....not stupid enough to f*ck my life up like that
[21:46] Mr. The Gladiator: youre not going to get married?!
[21:46] Mr. Bob The Builder: why? in case i go to hell for living in sin....i'll take the chance
[21:46] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Your spiritul heart not your heart of the body
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[21:47] Mr. Sorra: my point is...WHY SEARCH? SHouldent he know where it is?
[21:47] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: not the heart of the body, but your spiritul heart (rewording here)
[21:47] Mr. Sorra: WHY SEARCH? SHouldent he know where it is?
[21:47] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: He cannot know, for your spiritul heart is sinful
[21:48] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: ?
[21:48] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Jesus is Holy
[21:48] Mr. Bob The Builder: you gotta get out more...
[21:48] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Sorra, don't lower yourself by talking to him
[21:48] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Therefore he connot abide with sinful men
[21:48] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: But he will gladly accept your repentence!
[21:49] Mr. Sorra: That makes no sense Ambrosias....Jesus cant find my heart cause my heart is sinful and he is holy.
[21:49] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: The repentance of sin that is in your heart
[21:49] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Repent your sins and he will find you
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[21:49] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: believe unto him and you will be accepted into the kindom of Glory
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[21:49] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: no....
[21:50] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: live a good life, and do what is right
[21:50] Mr. The Gladiator: bbye bye peepolz
[21:50] Mr. Trogdor: god isnt real
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[21:50] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: science has proven it
[21:50] Mr. Bob The Builder: dont get him started
[21:50] Mr. Trogdor: Science proved that we came from monkeys
[21:50] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: many things has started it
[21:50] Mr. Trogdor: MONKEYS
[21:50] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i bet i just walked in on something good
[21:50] Mr. Lazydragoon: trogdor god is as real as you or i...from a hindu/buhddist perspective
[21:50] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: YUP!
[21:50] Mr. Trogdor: OHH OHH AHH AHH
[21:51] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Let me refraze this
[21:51] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: There is a "god"
[21:51] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: rephrase*
[21:51] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Science can prove nothing
[21:51] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: but Ambrosias, to blindly follow a faith....
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[21:51] Mr. Trogdor: Sciecne proves everything
[21:51] Mr. Lazydragoon: and trog, science has not proven that we came from monkeys, they are still missing the link between us...and it doesn't exist becasue aliend made us
[21:51] Mr. Sorra: Lol chimey the Chonga guess What has a tiny brain, a big mouth, and an opinion nobody cares about?
[21:51] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Troggers... your making yourself look stupid, lol
[21:52] Mr. Lazydragoon: aliens*
[21:52] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: but science has Tried to prove that god is real
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[21:52] Mr. Bob The Builder: no....its religeon that asks for blind faith....science believes in fact based on proof
[21:52] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: It is true
[21:52] Mr. Sorra: Lol chimey the Chonga guess What has a tiny brain, a big mouth, and an opinion nobody cares about?
[21:52] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: many scientist have tried to prove that there isn't a god
[21:52] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: what?
[21:52] Mr. Trogdor: Science trys to prove everything, it hasnt proved that the jewish/muslum,christian god is the real god
[21:52] Mr. Sorra: Ambrosias Arilyonis
[21:53] Mr. Lazydragoon: the story of genissis is og the Annunaki making us
[21:53] Mr. Trogdor: lol, good one ambrosias
[21:53] Mr. Bob The Builder: they re the same....just different names
[21:53] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: but... it is just so perfect... so impossible for there not to be a "divine guiding hand"
[21:53] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: There is more facts in the bible as there is any other living testomony
[21:53] Mr. Lazydragoon: they took the story of genissis from the book of the dead and from sumarian scriptures
[21:53] Mr. Trogdor: actualy bob, they are teh same name
[21:53] Mr. Trogdor: it just looks different for us since it is in different languages
[21:53] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: The book of the DEAD SEA came from the scriptures
[21:54] Mr. Trogdor: Cool name Sea
[21:54] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: not vic versea
[21:54] Mr. Sorra: I believe in god, just not the *beep*ty version that Ambrosias Arilyonis believes in.
[21:54] Mr. Lazydragoon: ambrosia i am reffering to the egyptian book of the dead
[21:54] Mr. The Gladiator: science hasen't proved that we come from monkeys
[21:54] Mr. The Gladiator: It's a theory
[21:54] Mr. Lazydragoon: not the dead sea scrolls...the dead sea scrolls are lost chapters of the old testament
[21:54] Mr. Bob The Builder: yes it has
[21:54] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: For a person to be accepted to heaven he has to be "Born Again"
[21:54] Mr. Trogdor: Science proved a lot of things that the catholic church said wasnt real
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[21:55] Mr. Trogdor: omg ur a jahobas witness
[21:55] Mr. Sorra: I believe in god, just not the *beep*ty version that Ambrosias Arilyonis believes in.
[21:55] Mr. Trogdor: u guys are fun to mess with at ma door
[21:55] Mr. Trogdor: hes a jahobas witness...
[21:55] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: yes, you made your point Trogdor...
[21:55] Mr. The Gladiator: well the catholic church has been corrupted at times, and some noobs used it to make off money
[21:55] Mr. Lazydragoon: anu and his two sons manifested themselves into a physical reality, the bible is of the folowers of enlil
[21:56] Mr. Lazydragoon: the egyptian and sumarian texts are followers of enkil
[21:56] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: The BIBLE IS OF THE FOLLOWERS OF GOD!!!!!
[21:56] Mr. Trogdor: the bible is a good book
[21:56] Mr. Trogdor: and exactly that, a BOOK
[21:56] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: NOT MEN!
[21:56] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: this world is pleaged by Foolish men!
[21:56] Mr. Lazydragoon: anu, enlil, and enkil are not men
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[21:56] Mr. Trogdor: When ever im bored i find my catholic priest
[21:56] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: glad you misunderstand the definition of theory
[21:56] Mr. Lazydragoon: they are Et's
[21:56] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: and there is no missing link
[21:56] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: the Bible was written by old men in a time way before this...
[21:56] Mr. Trogdor: he always makes sure i "go to heaven"
[21:57] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: that is an old statement that just doesn't hold up anymore
[21:57] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Prove it!
[21:57] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: many of them were actually hallucinating or were even high when they wrote it
[21:57] Mr. Bob The Builder: its a STORY....
[21:57] Mr. Trogdor: u prove its real
[21:57] Mr. Trogdor: hows that
[21:57] Mr. The Gladiator: ok bye peepolz
[21:57] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i don't have to, someone has proven it for me
[21:57] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: alright i will
[21:57] Mr. Trogdor: need to refresh browser brb
[21:57] Mr. The Gladiator: going to watch a ood boxing match on tv
[21:57] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: oh who's fightin?
[21:57] Mr. The Gladiator: in florida
[21:58] Mr. The Gladiator: em
[21:58] Mr. Lazydragoon: ambrosias, do some research into where your faith came from....which is judaism
[21:58] Mr. The Gladiator: Jean pascal
[21:58] Mr. Trogdor: lol
[21:58] Mr. The Gladiator: he's in top 10 pound for pound i think
[21:58] Mr. The Gladiator: you know him?
[21:58] Mr. Sorra: Gladiator, how tall are you? AVarage, tall or short?
[21:58] Mr. The Gladiator: and super middle weight
[21:58] Mr. Lazydragoon: and judaism came from...ohh a direct almost word for word rip off of the egyptian book of the dead...and where did the egyptians get that...sumarians
[21:58] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: The bible has more historical facts then in writen document of history, it has many other books backing it up
[21:58] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: nope, but i see he's canadian
[21:58] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: so go him!
[21:58] Mr. The Gladiator: why are you asking that sora
[21:59] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: he must be a midget then
[21:59] Mr. Trogdor: ur right
[21:59] Mr. Trogdor: it has historical facts
[21:59] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: if he is afraid to say
[21:59] Mr. Trogdor: but its also a story
[21:59] Mr. Sorra: lol
[21:59] Mr. Trogdor: its historical fiction ^^
[21:59] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: There is not one contridiction in the whole intire bible!
[21:59] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: what books back it up ambrose?
[21:59] Mr. Lazydragoon: ambrosia, the only history in the bible is the old testament...it tells the story of aliens creating humans through genetic mutation of creatures already inhabiting this planet
[21:59] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Sorra, why did you start dis ting up?
[21:59] Mr. The Gladiator: clamps - well hes going to be an oponent at my romanian boxer buddy at some point who is number 2 pound for pound
[21:59] Mr. The Gladiator: clamps - well hes going to be an oponent at my romanian boxer buddy at some point who is number 2 pound for pound
[21:59] Mr. The Gladiator: clamps - well hes going to be an oponent at my romanian boxer buddy at some point who is number 2 pound for pound
[21:59] Mr. The Gladiator: clamps - well hes going to be an oponent at my romanian boxer buddy at some point who is number 2 pound for pound
[22:00] Mr. Lazydragoon: enlil is mentioned in the bible
[22:00] Mr. Trogdor: the bible makes good fire
[22:00] Mr. The Gladiator: sorra asked if god will love white men lol
[22:00] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: ???
[22:00] Mr. Lazydragoon: and sence the pages are so thin it is good to use for rolling papers too
[22:00] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: There is The Dead Sea Scrolles for one
[22:00] Mr. Trogdor: idk but his sons love me
[22:00] Mr. The Gladiator: clamps - where are you from?
[22:00] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: umm, yeah
[22:00] Mr. Sorra: To Glad: You're the saddest, piss-poor excuse for a man I've ever seen, you chromosome-deficient, uber-impotent, rat-faced tard-popsicle. I'm not surprised you're single, you pimple-faced perpetual wedgie victim. The last time I saw something as fugly as you, I was cleaning up after my dog. I've seen better looking road kill. You're a neo-Nazi, fundamentalist militant Republican-voting mega-*beep* scumbag. Calling you a pea brain would be an insult to peas, you jellyfish-sucking mental midget. Stop bull*beep*ting about your height. A *beep*ing circus dwarf is not 'average.' Lying won't get you on the good rides in Disney. Lying about your weight again, eh? Since when did Pregnant Water Buffalo Size become 'Average'? Do you get a clearer idea of how pathetic you are, you minimum wage earning human equivalent of a bidet? I've seen wounds that were better dressed than you are. Why don't you stop gyrating that gaping misplaced *beep* of a mouth on your face for a *beep*ing minute so I can see what the *beep* a gibbering witless gimp actually looks like?
[22:00] Mr. Bob The Builder: written by men...another story
[22:00] Mr. Bob The Builder: have you read them
[22:01] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i'm in nb
[22:01] Mr. Bob The Builder: I have....they are also known in Israel as the books of legend
[22:01] Mr. Trogdor: jebus was a jew
[22:01] Mr. Lazydragoon: dead sea scrolls are a good read, but in 1947 when they were found they were deamed hearicy
[22:01] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: The bible was writen by men, but led under the Devin Direction of God
[22:01] Mr. Bob The Builder: same as king arthur
[22:01] Mr. Bob The Builder: says who....another man
[22:01] Mr. Lazydragoon: and still considered hearicy
[22:01] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: WOW.... nice Sorra
[22:01] Mr. Trogdor: the bible was written by my uncle
[22:02] Mr. Bob The Builder: and its divine direction
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[22:02] * Mr. Chimey The Chonga votes that the best rant ever
[22:02] Mr. Sorra: lol thanks Chimey
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[22:02] Mr. The Gladiator: does anyone have tsn
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[22:02] Mr. Trogdor: ok im going to go to the bathroom ill brb
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[22:02] Mr. Trogdor: dam im out of toilet paper
[22:02] Mr. Lazydragoon: <---i spend a lot of time reading the bible
[22:02] Mr. Trogdor: ...wheres my bible...
[22:02] Mr. Lazydragoon: as well as other spiritual novels
[22:03] Mr. The Gladiator: sorra
[22:03] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Sorra, I think you are the only person here who has said an actual true fact
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[22:03] Mr. The Gladiator: shut up you freak kid
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[22:20] Mr. Lazydragoon: and i can also correct the mis translations from biblical hebrew into modern hebrew, sodam and gramora were not centers of sin and debochery, but cities of learning and wisdom...one of the many miss translations of the bible
[22:20] Mr. Trogdor: indeed
[22:20] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I think philiosiphy is one of gods greatest gifts
[22:20] Mr. Trogdor: i like wisdom
[22:21] Mr. Trogdor: and u took that from me!
[22:21] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: trust me chimey i gave the other side a chance and do, but i've heard most of their arguments before so i kinda skip past and ignore when i heard the same old thing again
[22:21] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: being able to think and make your own opinion
[22:21] Mr. Trogdor: i like alchamy
[22:21] Mr. Trogdor: gold, oohh
[22:21] Mr. Lazydragoon: yeah but wisdom and knowledge are sinfull, they cause questioning
[22:21] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol, FULL METAL ALCHEMISTS!
[22:21] Mr. Trogdor: yep
[22:21] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Learning and Wizdom are of sin. The more Wizdom you have the more Sin you will know of
[22:21] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: yes philosophy is pretty much our greatest gift
[22:21] Mr. Lazydragoon: trog stay away from monoatomic gold
[22:21] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: [22:21] Mr. Lazydragoon: yeah but wisdom and knowledge are sinfull, they cause questioning
[22:21] Mr. Trogdor: actualy ppl in the 1000's tried to make gold threw alchamy
[22:21] Mr. Lazydragoon: don't injest it, don't tough it.....it is bad
[22:21] Mr. Trogdor: FMA just copied the idea
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[22:22] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: LOL ambrose ok that's one i haven't heard in a while. is that a baptist thing?
[22:22] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I disagree, knowledge is a great gift
[22:22] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Lazydragoon, i have contridicted everything you said so far...
[22:22] Mr. Trogdor: chimey, he was quoteing the church
[22:22] Mr. Trogdor: no u didnt ambr
[22:22] Mr. Bob The Builder: now that's up there with the Bush statements....stupid
[22:22] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: either way, I disagree, lol
[22:22] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: contradict is different from give a real answer to
[22:22] Mr. Trogdor: rofl
[22:23] Mr. Lazydragoon: can you tell me why jesus said he would be here till the fetcher came???
[22:23] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: ambrose you should go to the forum topic on this
[22:23] Mr. Sorra: GOD IS REAL
[22:23] Mr. Lazydragoon: remember biblical hebrew, not roman translations
[22:23] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: really i'd like to see what you say when you have time to think and say just what you mean etc
[22:23] Mr. Trogdor: sorra, why type in red
[22:23] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: it was quite popular for a while
[22:23] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
[22:23] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: so people can see it
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[22:24] Mr. Sorra: yeah
[22:24] Mr. Lazydragoon: the fetcer is a refrence to the age of aquarious..which starts in 13 years
[22:24] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Jesus lives in the heart of men, therfore he lives here until the coming of God the Father, Which is also the Son, the trinity
[22:24] Mr. Trogdor: coming of god hehe
[22:24] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: =p
[22:24] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: ambrose post in the forum man
[22:24] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: I am a carrior of Jesus, he lives within me
[22:24] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: it'll be awsome we can talk about it again on there
[22:25] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: how can you just say that?
[22:25] Mr. Trogdor: which forum?
[22:25] Mr. Lazydragoon: cotholosism is the largest form of poulation controle.....remember the pope will always go to hell, in the laws stated in the bible....
[22:25] Mr. Bob The Builder: good for you....carry him somewhere else
[22:25] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: LOL bob!
[22:25] Mr. Trogdor: lol
[22:26] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: no, carry god to the forum and make us believe. you say you are a messenger and such then give the message in your way we wanna hear
[22:26] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: where in the bible did it say that the pope will always go to hell?
[22:26] Mr. Lazydragoon: the bible talk of non-material ism....and if you look at the vadican, you can see that the top of catholisim is directly opposite of that
[22:26] Mr. Lazydragoon: the quickest way to heaven is to give up all worldy possesions and walk hand in hand with god
[22:26] Mr. Bob The Builder: Its a cult like any other
[22:26] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: all I can say is this
[22:26] Mr. Lazydragoon: which if you take a buhddist standpoint mean living in shirhada
[22:27] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I hope god has a sense of humor... otherwise, I'm *beep*ed
[22:27] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: i think he does
[22:27] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: look at the platypus
[22:27] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
[22:27] Mr. Lazydragoon: or dinosaurs
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[22:27] Mr. Lazydragoon: remember the earth is 3600 years old(ha ha)...dinosaurs are a trick
[22:27] Mr. Bob The Builder: god is a platypus???
[22:27] Mr. Lazydragoon: and if you believe they existed you are going to hell
[22:28] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: actually.... that thing about philosophy and intelligence being gods greatest gift
[22:28] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: if god exists he will forgive us who argue against him
[22:28] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I take that back
[22:28] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: farts are his greatest gift
[22:28] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: man even the pope said evolution is true!
[22:28] Mr. Bob The Builder: kinda lowers my expectations
[22:28] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: put everything you said into one post so i can read it, i have lost the discusion
[22:28] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: your not compleating your thoughts
[22:28] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: wha? well it's all there on the forum
[22:28] Mr. Bob The Builder: yeah....but he was smoking pot
[22:29] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: How can god give us intelligence... and not expect us to doubt?
[22:29] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: so how can i anwser this
[22:29] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: "why would the same god who endowed us with reason and logic not allow us to use it" -Galileo
[22:29] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: holy *beep*... we said that at the same time Gnisis Mininus, lol
[22:29] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: tell me where god said not to use reson and logic?
[22:29] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*ou just sounded more intelligent, lol
[22:29] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: the free will thing...we're supposed to choose god
[22:29] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: etc
[22:30] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Clamps, you good on my list :D
[22:30] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: see if we use reason and logic we can't believe
[22:30] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: no, he was argueing against the inquisition
[22:30] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*our
[22:30] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: and we have to believe
[22:30] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: ergo
[22:30] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: we can't use reason and logic
[22:30] Mr. Lazydragoon: free will in a predestianed universe....please
[22:30] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: to beleive is to have faith, not reason and logic
[22:30] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: reason and logic don't debunk God
[22:30] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: the faith i am talking about is having faith in Jesus
[22:30] Mr. Lazydragoon: remember "god" knows of every action you are going to take in your life....so there goes free will
[22:30] Mr. Bob The Builder: where we not created in his image?
[22:30] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: Ambrosias, do you hear yourself?
[22:31] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: not just through rationalism (sitting back in our chairs and thinking about it)
[22:31] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: He knows, but doesn't do it for you
[22:31] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: I hear the words of Jesus, not of men
[22:31] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: but used with searching history we debunk him
[22:31] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: no...
[22:31] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: no
[22:31] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: no
[22:31] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I can't believe this...
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[22:31] Mr. Bob The Builder: Its called being brainwashed....kinda what the Nazi's did too funnly enough
[22:31] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*ou are more lost and you believe us to be Ambrosias Arilyonis
[22:32] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: I am offering you a chanch in hevean!
[22:32] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: than*
[22:32] Mr. Lazydragoon: people look up sumarian history...they talked of mines in africa...which recently have been discovered
[22:32] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: no, you just say that you do that then refuse to put up
[22:32] Mr. Bob The Builder: you are a man....not a god
[22:32] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: How much self respect can be lost by believing in somthing so simpe!
[22:32] Mr. Bob The Builder: you have no choice in the matter
[22:32] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: its a free gift!
[22:32] Mr. Lazydragoon: they tell how they were created by the annunaki as slaves for thier minerals
[22:32] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: so is this invisible rock
[22:32] * Mr. Bayushi Clamps gives him a rock
[22:33] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: there that was free
[22:33] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: ambrosias, youre not convincing anyone
[22:33] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: and it does as much as god
[22:33] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: I do not need to convinc anyone
[22:33] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: ambrosias... tell me this... do you think god can directly effect our lives?
[22:33] Mr. Sorra: *beep* all you *beep*s that make fun of god. You dont believe in him ok, doesnt mean you need to insult him
[22:33] Mr. Lazydragoon: the annunaki wanted this planet becasue of the vast amounts of gold it had....gold being a key ingrediant in ambrosia....manna, monoatomic gold, whatever you want to call it
[22:33] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: Bayushi, Ambrosias, you are both being inane
[22:33] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: you said that's what you were driven to do
[22:33] Mr. Lazydragoon: sorra...going to conffese for that one
[22:33] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: i am doing what God has put into my heart to tell!
[22:34] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: o_O
[22:34] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: gnisis check the forum then
[22:34] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: for?
[22:34] Mr. Lazydragoon: its amazing how the golden rule that these so called good christians don't follow
[22:34] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol, Clamps and Ambrosias are both of the extremes, lol
[22:34] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: then tell it on the discussion ambrose
[22:34] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: We are all sinners!
[22:34] Mr. Lazydragoon: do unto others as ye would have them do unto you
[22:34] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i'm not extreme....
[22:34] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Even christains
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[22:34] Mr. Sorra:
[22:34] Mr. Sorra: whats that mean
[22:34] Mr. Lazydragoon: do you want people preaching at you about being morman??
[22:34] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: but we are trying to be more like jesus every day
[22:35] Mr. Sorra: sorra...going to conffese for that one
[22:35] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: I will preach back!
[22:35] Mr. Lazydragoon: how bout the jahova's whitnesses that knock up on your fron door
[22:35] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: He knockes on your heart
[22:35] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: .....
[22:35] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: YOU ALL talk too much
[22:35] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: be good and pass it on
[22:35] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: open your heart to him and recive him
[22:35] Mr. Lazydragoon: they are already deeper into the faith then you will ever be, practicing non-materialism
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[22:35] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: http://visual-utopia.com/forum.asp?forum=1&;topicID=48354&replyes=150
[22:36] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: Ambrosias! repeating yourself does NOT WORK!
[22:36] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: receive that ambrose
[22:36] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Be good, pass it on...
[22:36] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: look at the quality of reason on both sides
[22:36] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Be good, pass it on...
[22:36] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I win
[22:36] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*ou all just lost
[22:36] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: you are probably the best off of all of us chimey =p
[22:36] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol, :)
[22:37] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I am enlightened :D
[22:37] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
[22:37] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: cuz god wouldn't forget my sorry ass
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[22:37] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: no... he loves everyone... how can he not?
[22:37] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: well, i like to think i am too. just because i've been thinking about this since i was quite young and i've read a personal library on it
[22:37] Mr. Lazydragoon: there is no such thing as enlightment, just understanding
[22:37] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: meh, i consider it a feeling
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[22:38] Mr. Lazydragoon: realization that we are all one being
[22:38] Mr. Lazydragoon: known as earth
[22:38] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: If you doubt, you are thinking
[22:38] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: if you don't, then you are blind
[22:38] Mr. Lazydragoon: turn a stone i am there, spit a tree i am there
[22:38] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: O dear, this is quite a tangle
[22:38] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: meh, thinking is all i have
[22:38] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: it's all i am
[22:38] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: "I think, therefore I am"
[22:38] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: mmm
[22:38] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: WOOT!
[22:38] Mr. Lazydragoon: exactly
[22:39] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: although i think descartes was nuts
[22:39] Mr. Lazydragoon: because the root of your univerce is you
[22:39] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*ou think, therefore you are HUMAN.
[22:39] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: he said "i think. i am", which is not backed up by any reason
[22:39] Mr. Lazydragoon: you are snapping the molicules you see froma probability to actualy being in a single place
[22:39] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: that is what humans do
[22:39] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: then uses it as evidence for everything else he says
[22:39] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: lazydragon
[22:39] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: that is inane
[22:39] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: you are all inane
[22:40] Mr. Lazydragoon: that is quantum physics
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[22:40] Mr. Sorra: Chonga, he isent human....atleast his intllegence is about one of a rock
[22:40] Mr. Sabre: lazy
[22:40] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: why does everything have to be so complicated?
[22:40] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: set in one way, whether skeptic or fanatic
[22:40] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: freaks
[22:40] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: it ISN'T lol
[22:40] Mr. Lazydragoon: look up the double split experament
[22:40] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I miss being 7 years old... :(
[22:40] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: it was nice... lol
[22:40] Mr. Sorra: not to you choga im saying dont give him that benfit
[22:40] Mr. Lazydragoon: that is exactly what we do as obsevers
[22:40] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: you have the a very complicated way of seeing things too chimey
[22:41] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: well, I take pride in that, lol
[22:41] Mr. Deathknight: i just donated 32 eur but didnt get anything
[22:41] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i can't imagine trying to find peace in a tangled mess of the top ten list of new-age books at chapters
[22:41] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: that is not wisdom lol
[22:41] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: but really.... remember when you were like 5 or 6?
[22:41] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*ou don't realize how happy and lucky you were until later
[22:42] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: being older sucks! lol
[22:42] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: I think Bayushi, you have researched this from one side of the spectrum. You lazydragon are a rambler and chonga just might still be seven.
[22:42] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: you think wrong gnisis
[22:42] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
[22:42] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: as i said earlier, i have totally looked at both sides because i used to be religious
[22:43] Mr. Lazydragoon: ahh rambler i am
[22:43] Mr. Lazydragoon: secpool of information...yes
[22:43] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Gnisis, I am open minded
[22:43] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: and i continue to pursue good arguments in support of god
[22:43] Mr. Lazydragoon: how much of it is actualy fact...none, because we don't exist
[22:43] Mr. Deathknight: how long does it take for the donations to give you all what it said you get
[22:43] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
[22:43] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: religious could mean falling asleep in church every sunday
[22:43] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Deathknight...
[22:43] Mr. Deathknight: ya
[22:44] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol, nvm
[22:44] Mr. Sorra: IM 50CENT!
[22:44] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol, holy *beep*!
[22:44] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: do you bayushi? I mean really? "the case for christ" was a good one
[22:44] Mr. Zek: im Chuck Norris .
[22:44] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: try again gnisis. i have a library and actual library of three bookcases
[22:44] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: try again gnisis. i have a library and actual library of three bookcases
[22:44] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: and...?
[22:44] Mr. Lazydragoon: i'm the ani-christ...and ohh what i have planned
[22:44] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: are you the only learned person on the face of the earth
[22:44] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: you know what percent is in support of god?
[22:44] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: like 90%
[22:44] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: hey, how about everyone gets the stick out of there ass and be HAPPY!
[22:45] Mr. Bob The Builder: i got the dvd's;)
[22:45] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: I have done the bidding of the Lord, I can only hope for one thing, that is hope that i will see you one day, face to face and receive you with open arms into the kingdom of God. I will cry tonight, and pray with all the earnesty of my heart, that you will all be recieved into the kingdom of God. The rest of you are in gods hands now. My heart goes out to you with love, the type of love that God is. Repent and receave Jesus into your hearts, Believe in him. It is a free gift! For god said: you are recieved into the kingdom of god through works, not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. I have fulfilled my dutty unto God, and i now go unto peace, with the knoledge that i have fullfiled the quest Jesus has given me. May God be with you.
[22:45] Mr. Bob The Builder: take that as good bye?
[22:45] Mr. Sorra: I AM 50CENT. WADDUP GANGSTA!!!
[22:45] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i think he's killing himself!
[22:45] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: someone stop him!
[22:45] Mr. Lazydragoon: please i ask for you not to pray for me ambros, if i didn't not ask for it you are doing me harm
[22:45] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: no... Sorra, you are a Canadian, lol
[22:46] Mr. Sorra: no i am....50 CENT
[22:46] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: ok.... I believe you...
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[22:46] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I mean, if you say so... no one ever lies on the internett
[22:46] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: *internet
[22:46] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: what is that guy's problem
[22:46] Mr. Sorra: WHAT UP G's
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[22:47] Mr. Bob The Builder: Canadian....that explains it
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[22:47] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: who? Ambrosias Arilyonis?
[22:47] Mr. Sorra: YOU talkin to me Gnisis
[22:47] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: danget! God said: your recieved into the kingdom of God through faith, not of yoursleves, it is the gift of god, not of works, lesst anyone should boast*
[22:47] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: typo
[22:47] Mr. Bob The Builder: damn
[22:47] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: hmmmm...
[22:47] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: sigh
[22:47] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: exactly
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[22:47] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: you can't earn your way to heaven
[22:48] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: thomas got into heaven without faith
[22:48] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: well, I say (again):Be good, pass it on...
[22:48] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: remember doubting thomas, ambrosias
[22:48] Mr. Sorra: and i say IM 50CENT
[22:48] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*ess sorra, lol, we get it
[22:48] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: ok im finished...
[22:48] Mr. Bob The Builder: i got into the cinema without a ticket
[22:48] Mr. Sorra: whats happinin homies?
[22:49] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: you can all hit me on the head with a giant fish...
[22:49] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: not much
[22:49] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: whatch out Fitty! they commin' for ya
[22:49] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: they gonna shoot you
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[22:49] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: anyone have a fish?
[22:49] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i'll do it
[22:49] Mr. Bob The Builder: hang on....frozen or not
[22:49] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: So who all thought i did a good job?
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[22:49] * Mr. Chimey The Chonga shoots "50" with a mp44
[22:49] * Mr. Bayushi Clamps slaps himself around with a bit of salmon
[22:49] Mr. Sorra: Well i run of in peoples crib asken where dat money at now
[22:49] Mr. Lazydragoon: ambrosia will you do me a favor...pick up a copy of the egyptian book of the dead, it was written i*beep*ce
[22:49] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: happy gnisis =p
[22:50] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: good job?
[22:50] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I'm thinking about copying this enire conversations and posting it in the forum
[22:50] Mr. Lazydragoon: it was taken from sumarian textes that are some 20,000 years old
[22:50] Mr. Bob The Builder: hand job
[22:50] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Nothing? not even... thanks bayushi
[22:50] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: look man if it really would make you happy then fine
[22:50] Mr. Sorra: lol do it Chimey
[22:50] Mr. Sorra: Post it in fourmsd
[22:50] Mr. Sorra: fourms
[22:51] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: but you should post where you can really get credit for your thoughts you know
[22:51] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: ooooooohhh! I'm too nervous!
[22:51] Mr. Sorra: I'll fill your ass up with lead
[22:51] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: not that the vu community is the final word, but you might find that there are some people to agree with and help you there
[22:51] Mr. Sorra: post it chonga common
[22:51] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: why don't you?
[22:51] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: me?
[22:51] Mr. Sorra: i re-loaded
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[22:52] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: christ when's he gonna stop shootin....
[22:53] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Clamps, I respect you... You made good points and I think it will affect my overall thinking
[22:53] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Gnisis Mininus, besides the 7 year old remark, I'm ok with you too :D
[22:53] Mr. Sorra: POST IT! POST IT!
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[22:53] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: there were too many different thought threads in too many different places to make any good points
[22:53] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Sorra... your canadian... that's it
[22:53] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: wow why do i sense a big "but' comin on lol
[22:54] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i am canadian too
[22:54] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: sorry lol
[22:54] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: oh....
[22:54] Mr. Deathknight: im american
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[22:54] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: nvm... your thought are invalid then, lol
[22:54] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: lol saw that commin
[22:54] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
[22:54] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: sorra, nice huge ass rant before, lol
[22:55] Mr. Lazydragoon: remember abmbros, information is only as good as it's source, and if the source was out sourced then what is it worth(sorry i like talking cirrcles(
[22:55] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i guess i'll just go back to polar bear huntin
[22:55] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: eh!
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[22:55] Mr. Sorra: lol...so you gonna post it? Plzzzzzzzzzzzzz post it
[22:55] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I didn't realize there were so many nutjobs on VU, lol
[22:55] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Ah, well... it is actually a lot easier than it seems. All you really need to know is how much they want to sell it for and usually you take half that price and work your way up (unless it is really low already). They will usually price their items higher than they are worth because they know that they will have to barter. As long as you know the baht exchange rate then you will do fine. All you usually say in Thai is (insert number) ___ baht? And you will barter like that. Once you watch someone else barter it is a lot easier.
[22:55] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: but, at least there are normal people too, who can reason
[22:55] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: ....?
[22:56] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: ok, that was weird
[22:56] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: *cough*
[22:56] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
[22:56] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: ....yes....
[22:56] Mr. Lazydragoon: yeah, smoke dmt, eat lsd, and waorship the giver of languagest....the mushroom
[22:56] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: wait... Clamps...
[22:56] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: im going to past and copie everything and put it on the fourm
[22:56] Mr. Lazydragoon: L:-p
[22:57] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: we can discuse this latter
[22:57] Mr. Sabre: lazy
[22:57] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: like Agent Clamps?
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[22:57] Mr. Sorra: if you post it...make teh title "most crazy VU chat EVER
[22:57] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: last time i checked i owned every who defied me...
[22:57] Mr. Lazydragoon: sorry sabre
[22:57] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: ha
[22:57] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: anyway thanks ambrose for the talk
[22:57] Mr. Sabre: talk to me on chat for a sec
[22:57] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*eah
[22:57] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: maybe just add it to the one already up
[22:57] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: I was goint to leave
[22:57] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: but... I spent like another hour some chatting up a storm
[22:58] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: but clamps...
[22:58] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: like Agent Clamps...
[22:58] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: right?
[22:58] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: yeh, same guy
[22:58] Mr. Sorra: POST IT ON THE FOURMS! POST IT ON THE FOURMS! POST IT ON THE FOURMS!
[22:58] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: yeh, same guy
[22:58] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: why?
[22:58] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: noooooooooo....
[22:58] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: lag
[22:59] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: part of agents(or was) and a canadian... how much worse can it get?
[22:59] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: well, that will be kinda hard
[22:59] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: posting it on the fourms
[22:59] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: most is
[22:59] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: i can't highlight everything
[22:59] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: most is
[22:59] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: most is
[23:00] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: the core members of agent are
[23:00] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: the core members of agent are
[23:00] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: freaks
[23:00] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: the core members of agent are
[23:00] Mr. Gnisis Mininus: freaks
[23:00] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: are?
[23:00] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: are?
[23:00] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: are?
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[23:00] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: canadian
[23:00] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: lol
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[23:00] Mr. Sorra: sO cHONGA...PLEASE POST....i wanna start *beep* with GLad again.
[23:00] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: ohhhhhh... it is all making sense now, lol
[23:00] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: people can blame me for getting those guys into the game actually
[23:01] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: yeah, they are smarter than most people here. makes sense alright =p
[23:01] Mr. Sorra: it's fun ranting at dumb people like him.
[23:01] Mr. Might The God of Cows: RAR
[23:01] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Well Clamps... it is nice to have an actual conversation with you
[23:01] * Mr. Might The God of Cows should be worshiped!
[23:01] Mr. Sorra: so many things to say, not enough words
[23:01] Mr. Might The God of Cows: WORSHIP ME!
[23:01] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: because I have a much better opinion of you now
[23:01] Mr. Sorra: *beep* YOU MIGHT
[23:01] Mr. Might The God of Cows: WORSHIP ME, SERVANTS!
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[23:01] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: you are worshiped might =p
[23:02] * Mr. Might The God of Cows smites Sorra
[23:02] Mr. Might The God of Cows: Clamps
[23:02] Mr. Might The God of Cows: OFC I am!
[23:02] Mr. Might The God of Cows: D:D
[23:02] Mr. Sorra: That wasent funny...
[23:02] Mr. Might The God of Cows: What?
[23:02] Mr. Arch Shade The Dark: lol
[23:02] Mr. Arch Shade The Dark: Yeah no funny
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[23:02] Mr. Might The God of Cows: Arch shush
[23:03] Mr. Might The God of Cows: I no likey yous
[23:03] Mr. Sorra: well no one likes you lol
[23:03] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: chimey why you see me too much on the forum and hate me or because of agent =p
[23:03] Mr. Might The God of Cows: Sorra, what?
[23:03] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: a god of cows, aye?
[23:03] Mr. Might The God of Cows: Yes
[23:03] Mr. Sorra: except FA and that is
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[23:03] Mr. Might The God of Cows: FA?
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[23:03] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: sorry clamps, could you reword that, lol
[23:03] Mr. Might The God of Cows: Whats this have to do with FA?
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For all of those who wish to look at how a real debator debates, here is your stuff.

Man...Ambrose... I thought you were gonna like, consolidate your argument and write out your points in a way that reads better, no one is gonna read three solid posts of chat output lol. Oh well.

Why do you post this? Who would read something this long?

Wow... such idiocity...

Sorra reaaaally proves his maturity with this.  Anyone else agree?

22:00] Mr. Sorra: To Glad: You're the saddest, piss-poor excuse for a man I've ever seen, you chromosome-deficient, uber-impotent, rat-faced tard-popsicle. I'm not surprised you're single, you pimple-faced perpetual wedgie victim. The last time I saw something as fugly as you, I was cleaning up after my dog. I've seen better looking road kill. You're a neo-Nazi, fundamentalist militant Republican-voting mega-*beep* scumbag. Calling you a pea brain would be an insult to peas, you jellyfish-sucking mental midget. Stop bull*beep*ting about your height. A *beep*ing circus dwarf is not 'average.' Lying won't get you on the good rides in Disney. Lying about your weight again, eh? Since when did Pregnant Water Buffalo Size become 'Average'? Do you get a clearer idea of how pathetic you are, you minimum wage earning human equivalent of a bidet? I've seen wounds that were better dressed than you are. Why don't you stop gyrating that gaping misplaced *beep* of a mouth on your face for a *beep*ing minute so I can see what the *beep* a gibbering witless gimp actually looks like?

lol

I needed to have this up so i could work with it, and also answer peoples questions.

Here was part of the debate:

[22:16] Mr. Lazydragoon: reading it more, and more i started finding hypocracies and contradictions, the old testament seeming pure and sound, where the new testament seemes to relye on fear as crowd controle
[22:16] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: look "believers" i tried hard to hold on to a belief in god. i fought just as hard as you guys and yunno what, i still had to give in because i wanted to find the TRUTH, not just win arguments
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[22:17] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: there's a huge difference
[22:17] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: There is not a single contradiction!
[22:17] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: Give me one and i will prove you wronge
[22:17] Mr. Lazydragoon: ok god is infallible right
[22:17] Mr. Lazydragoon: perfect from the begining of the old testament
[22:17] Mr. Sorra: what was burning was probably your *beep* after it relized that it belonged to an *beep* like you
[22:17] Mr. Lazydragoon: an angry and vengful god
[22:17] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Clamps.... I see where you are coming from but you know what? you are almost as bad as Ambrosias Arilyonis
[22:17] Mr. Trogdor: lol
[22:18] Mr. Chimey The Chon*beep*ou are also very narrow minded in this issue
[22:18] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: right...
[22:18] Mr. Bob The Builder: Xmas in December.....instead of October as is believed to be the true date of Jesus' birth
[22:18] Mr. Trogdor: chimey, i hope u relise i can talk about religion and have a good talk
[22:18] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: you might think that because i spend so little time considering opposing ideas?
[22:18] Mr. Lazydragoon: the new testament..he becomes a loving caring god, wiether of not he put himself there and experience physical reality or not...he still changed
[22:18] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: that is the key to life (or one of them) open mindedness and tolerance!
[22:18] Mr. Trogdor: but i have no repect for ppl that make christianity looks like a comercial business like ambro
[22:18] Mr. Lazydragoon: change=not perfect, there for contradiction
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[22:19] Mr. Trogdor: go door to door to recruit people
[22:19] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: He never changed!
[22:19] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: no Troggers, I know you can be intelligent (can)
[22:19] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i am not close minded on this which i know for sure because i used to be on the other side
[22:19] Mr. Lazydragoon: ohh then can you tell me the story of sodom and gramora real quick
[22:19] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i have seen both sides and still go to talks from christians who try to disprove evolution and stuff
[22:19] Mr. Bayushi Clamps: i go to church sometimes too
[22:20] Mr. Trogdor: i go to midnight mass and easter mass
[22:20] Mr. Trogdor: with my grandparents
[22:20] Mr. Trogdor: thats bout it
[22:20] Mr. Chimey The Chonga: Clamps... I have alot of respect for you, not blindly following what you believe
[22:20] Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis: God is an angry and vencful God becuase of the sinners that had populated the earth. He loved every one. He was only angry and vencful becuase of the sin in the life of men

mm..

yeah... i agree.... uhuh.. especially on that one!!... not much on that though...

say, can I have your number Ambrosia? We'd be a great team of argumentatorssss!!

If wisdom is sin, then by definition God must be the worst sinner of all.

Besides, which is better:  to live in complete ignorance of right and wrong and thus never sin, or to know of and live in a world of sin, yet still live a virtuous life?

And also, wouldn't a degree of questioning be necessary for believers in God to not be mislead by pagan priests and gods?  Isn't it necessary to question the actions and intentions of your priest so you aren't called into holy war while they are just sending you to reclaim a city that earned them a lot of tax?

Duke Luta Mor Report 1/13/2008 4:30:31 AM

Besides, which is better:  to live in complete ignorance of right and wrong and thus never sin, or to know of and live in a world of sin, yet still live a virtuous life?

You do not have a choice, the more you grow, the more you will learn, wether you like it or not. Therefore you are living in a sinful world. And you will sin, becuase of the temptaitions the devil sets before you.

"Wisdom is not sin. Wisdom is the knoledge of Good and Evil. God is not a sinner, you have a choice, if you want to sin or not. Wisdom is just a greater understanding of the world and all things in the world."

Why then should the bible condemn a city of wisdom?  Why condemn learning?

"And this last part made no sence... no offence though."

Well, think about it.  If the Pope today were to call all Christian presidents to go on a neo-crusade against the Middle East, would you do it?  Would you actually believe God's wish is for us to go and kill everyone, or would you think the pope is abusing his power?

Or what keeps you from joining another religion?  If you truly think about it, anyone with an old document that says stuff, and everyone testifies that the old document in God's own written truth (not that demon-written Bible of yours!) has just as much logical authority as any other religion.  Rather than just simply say "okay, I was wrong before, now I'll join you guys," you question them, and either agree or disagree.

If your pastor were to go out and tell you to kill someone who stopped going to church, I'm pretty sure you'd question that demand too, even if the priest poured all his heart and soul into trying to convince you it is God's will.

Understand what I'm getting at?

1. just realized you're a guy. forget my post.
2. catholicism is great part of christianity
3. for 9.123 - fight does not always mean kill. you can fight with words, or not obey..
4. for 4.89 - who is 'they' ?


and the ultimate question that will wreck your mind:
WHAT IS FAITH?
Maybe you think it's faith.. but it actually is stubbornness to see truth?

well said Architect, though christaianity is still in Catholicism. I simply do not agrea with what the pope said in the past, and posibaly in the future. I am babtist.

"If your pastor were to go out and tell you to kill someone who stopped going to church, I'm pretty sure you'd question that demand too, even if the priest poured all his heart and soul into trying to convince you it is God's will."

Firstly, If my paster told me to freekin kill somone, I would probably leave the church. Secondly I would not make ANY big descision without me knowing inside my heart that it is the will of God.

What is fiath?

Belief in, devotion to, or trust in somebody or something, especially without logical proof coming from the human mind of non-believers.

It does not sound similar to me.

@ mbeidas
uh
it's not YOUR religion.
you don't own it. you didn't make it.
I even doubt you contributed to it....


@amberosias
the effects are the same..

It's not always as simple as that though.  Take the giant evolution controversy.  All evidence points to a world far, far older than 5000 years and there is massive proof of evolution, enough that it is today's most widely accepted theory among the scientific community and a base to modern medicine, yet due to the fact scripture can be interpreted different people reject all the decades of research.  Is that faith or stubbornness?

In those examples I don't see a difference. If you look at those definitions you and I got, they basically say that stubbornness is being set in an opinion, but faith is that plus especially without logic or proof. Stubborn is bad enough but at least it can be reasonable. I don't even feel exactly stubborn, I am forced to think what I do based on logic; it isn't a choice.
The problem with faith is that a person chooses to maintain their belief, and most times are unwilling or unable to put their finger on why that is until they eventually become atheist. For me it was because I was embarrassed for being so faithful in something imaginary, so instead of just snapping my fingers and becoming atheist, it took years. When people let go of their superstition they can, in time, stop feeling silly about the things they believed by seeing all the people around them who went through the same thing.
The thing that confuses the situation is that so many people believe right until their death bed. I know it can never be proven, but I would love to bet vast sums of money that if 50% of the world's population kept up the lie about Santa Clause, people would believe in him until death too. Believers would feel the fight isn't over yet, mass together a couple times a month, and all egg each other on so they don't all feel crazy or silly.

Ambrosia, you don't seem to understand that you can't just put exclamation marks after your sentences to make them true. If you say science can't prove anything then you are misunderstanding the definition of "science" or "prove" somewhere in your chain of thoughts. Educate yourself on science and see what they mean when they say those two words and you'll see how you are wrong.

Duke Luta Mor Report 1/13/2008 8:35:16 PM

It's not always as simple as that though.  Take the giant evolution controversy.  All evidence points to a world far, far older than 5000 years and there is massive proof of evolution, enough that it is today's most widely accepted theory among the scientific community and a base to modern medicine, yet due to the fact scripture can be interpreted different people reject all the decades of research.  Is that faith or stubbornness?

There is more facts pointing towards a world that is 5000 years old rather then a world that is 100,000 years old. and there is also a lot of facts saying that evelution is wrong.

Dark Lord Finwe Report 1/13/2008 9:22:47 PM

ROFL sorry but if you seriously belive the world is only 5000 years old and that facts actually support that then there is no hope for you   Do you belive the earth is flat and that we are the centre of the universe as well?

It was a medifor...

Obveasly Dark Lord Finwe handles himself very well. Can everyone see that?

I beleive everything i write in this topic. else i would not write it.

can you provide any evidence that shows the earth is 5000 years old?