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You're a grumpy old bastard.

And i still say nerf Halfers because this is just silly. Other races don't stand a chance against a halfer. Period.

i havn't noticed halfers over powered.  OOP nothing stops them but later game i havn't seen much but i am not fighting many halfers so i don't know the whole story.

Halfer are hardly unstoppable..

Well depends on how you see halfers being overpowered.

Military defense wise it's really garbage what Halfers get
for the price. But in return you get the eco to train twice as many troops to balance them up. If you can get your adventures working than maybe it can be really usefull.

But don't you agree on halfer defensive quality?
We need twice the numbers of troops against other races to compeet so it's not strange that you can achieve a quicker higher income.
And it also depends on your situation your in HEMA for example you get some luxure problems and good members helping you with good armies.
If you have a kd thats less than the halfers aren't coming out as nice as you make them.

Lord Himanil X Report 07:13:56 Mar 15th 10

Who the hell is this guy.

Idiot.

I completely agree with Raist. I had one of/the strongest armies in Hema. It took a halfer 2 ticks to prep a city I was in and kill everything. I'm not complaining at my loss of an army, thats happened twice this era already :P I'm just saying nobody stands a chance against halfers, especially ones who know what they're doing and even more so, ones that have excellent magic support.

Yeah well if I was still alive, my army wouldn't be that powerful compared to most people as it was a couple days ago :P

It was my own fault anyway, lots of things I could of done which I didn't. Alas, things happen for a reason. Plus I can't help but go out drinking at awkward times!

You may need x20 troops and you're army upkeep may suck, but the amount of income you guys have is, provided you get some spoils or are able to farm is unreal. I'm sure if ZeTa doesn't nerf Halfers, we'll be seeing alot more of them next era.

IMHO Halfers are way overpowered oop. After oop (if you last that long :P) everyone else has the chance to crank level 5s and hurt halfers if you have good magic support.

no to boats

Zeus: Have you in your "two eras of gameplay" managed to completely overlook the fact that attacking is just something you do to break the monotony of farming? It serves no purpose and (quite sadly might i add) it gets countered really easily, especially if one wants to ruin the game for everyone. Of course i'm not going to discuss that, as there would be people trying it out, but just remember - attacking is only a useful pastime on your way to a win (if you find it in you to actually want one).

I say keep it as it is.  Bout time halfers get a boost ;)

Grumpy.
Again like I said I just believe what I read. I'm to new to make a real call here. But judging  by what I've read in the forums over the era's there have always been a dominating race and that always will have to be that way.
or Rather it has to be a certain race dominating over an other and stuff.
I've read the suggestions to lots of good suggestions are being made.
And maybe yes halfers could be tweaked but like I said before with vu history in mind it would mean the coming few era's is going to be the era of the halfers.

And I know you've got a pretty good army but I got no numbers to tell if I am going to be amazed or not. And like you could have seen I got beaten by a troll yesterday. Means that other race still are pretty good in fighting back. Like you might now my army ain't that weak either and being defeaten by a troll means something.
Besides that if I compare myself as halfer to my other races in the kd
I would find them all are almost equal in strenght to me. Only they pay less upkeep than me and need lower amount of troops than I do.

Ali: You are throwing pearls to swine. If somebody doesn't want to see something you may as well stick it into his forehead and hang a flag on it for all the good it will do.

Zeus: The troll win was pure coincidental luck, you know that. While i am not complaining about Q getting lucky, it still only proves a point. My army isn't amazing. It shouldn't be amazing either. The only thing about it that defies sense is the amount of time and income i had to spend to get it. Show me who of the mentioned races can replace a lost army as easily as a developed halfer? Upkeep? Sure. We pay heavy upkeep. But the armies pouring forth are rather monstrous as well.

And we haven't even touched upon the "god how pointless it is to actually fight somebody the way things are right now".

anyone can pour out a big army if they know how and are active enough. Halfer just make the farming aspect to getting a large army easier than other races.....

One race will be seen as overpowered each era because they have a slight or slightly more than slight advantage in area x over the other races and the good players choose to exploit it.

In the same respect, if only newbs played halfer and all the vets played troll this era then people would be calling for a nerfing of troll as opposed to halfling.

Arthritic donkeys are a force to be reckoned with.

I just restarted as a halfer yesterday, and already have an income larger than most of my kd =( Granted we are being pushed back, but less than 24 hours after restarting, having over 500k income is a bit ridiculous lol.

lol and?
I know of an elf with 3.6M raw OP.... and apparently they're the worst race around....

It's really not the race, its the person who plays it and how they play it.

i agree, halver eco is amazing straight out in the error, but i am playing them atm and the military side is shocking atm, yes atm i might have to biggest army in nirvana BUT that is only in numbers, i cant kill ANYTHING with it. Halvers cannot afford to go 100% military production and must keep their economy going all era and must keep building mines and other resources. I believe that if u can force a halver to play defence and keep the pressure on them, then they can easily be over come

I very well doubt that Hartonius. Or you wanna try out your army vs me or Grumpy ?
Halfers military is indeed pretty strong but you gotta keep balancing the eco too. Grumpy like I stated before you had not warred or fight a single battle since you and me met on the battlefield. Meaning you could get up your eco up alot. Compared to those who were warring. They won't have it as easy on building up the eco as they still have to balance there army ( upkeep ).

Halfers the new superpower! Only reason they werent last era or before was well cause elves were hear to slaughter them XD

"almost 2 mill income" is all you've managed?

I'm sorry to say this but you, my dear boy, suck. With the current protection plan and income boost and all the little perks you get from restarting you should come OOP with at least 3 mill income with productivity shot to smithereens. Which should/could/would boost you over time to a steady behemoth of an income.

But alas you have proven my point, even the likes of Karac can squeeze something out of Halfers. 'Nuff said.

You know something's wrong with the game when that soppy Slovak can get over 2m income without having half his kd feed him cities.

halfer troops should be crap, thats the whole idea...don´t start making them to a troll or orc...I suggest change the building cost, 50% is extreme.

*poof*

i r human... again...

Hooo Silver... my faithful one... begone! You are no longer needed!

:->

lol... :P

All jesting aside. I stand by my initial observation, especially when paired with the insane boost you get for "being small". Granted, the rather huge upkeep you have to live with if you want to field proper OP mid-late era takes a big chunk out of your liquid assets, but it still doesn't offset the fast retrain/rebound rate you have as a halfer, especially considering the eliminated need for dedicated armories.

And this is enough of me ranting.

/Raist