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dude are you kinda stupid we are talking about respect and you say *beep*ishly "hey i should be jesus' buddy lol my name suits it perfectly" let your mom take you to a doctor .

1) jews made israel on a base on their relegion no body can forget his relegion GOD said :" if we muslims do things for god god will victory us .

i dont know how to say it that if we victory god got will give us victory no body can forget his relegion all the fighting goes cuz the deffernet nations and relegions crusades came for relegion points we cant do as because we muslims did it before cuz we forgot our relegion and fought for sovits and for nats and we losed but now we fight for GOD and we are winning i know we losed but wining now is more as lebanon won on israel .

and give me points how i pretend to be a muslims give me a proof i am not .

islam fights for supreme points :

1) to save people from cruel people .

2) to find a good place to serve god .

3) to make the muslim nation strong and been feared by anther people .

and we have them in holy koran .

1)we dont attack for petrol .as america

2)we dont attack to be the world strongest nation as america and sovits fought.

3) we dont fight becasue in some way we have right to kill people with nucler as america did with japan and use it but iran and north korea not allowed cuz we are not allince as america .

why its right for all the allince to america even finland to have the power and we cant . arabs tought eurpoe the math in past .arab tought europe the coffe and suger . arab even tought europe the shampoo we didnt learn them guns and so .

Mbeidas, I dont worship any God, but I think that 2000 years ago a man called Jesus existed and he taught people some very good advice. Love your enemy. They are just humans like yourself. Treat other people like you want to be treated yourself.

I dont think Jesus was a son of any God, but I do believe he had many great ideas and he teached those ideas to people. It is better do it that way.

Teach people, talk to them. Dont fight.

You can argue verbally, but never make it physical. When you do, people will start to get hurt and it will escalate beyond control. If you fight, you, and your loved ones will get hurt, on both sides.

You are not strong if you are feared. Fear only makes man weak. Fighting makes man weak.

You are strong when you are loved. You are strong when you love. If you want strength, find love.

i respect mr saakal with every word but you anyalius i only just dont respect you cuz i said before i wont say jews or just our eneimes fights in uniform so do that make them the right i know the best defence is attack but dont leave people with no house cuz 3 men only died .

japan was bombed cuz it was natz allies so what it refuse serrunder so u bombed it and its forcing as you make it the angels oh they refused surrender so u have reason to make them monsters looking people iraq is been taking for 5 years give us positive. to think in it .

as islam save people it treated them in good way if not ask the orthodux in jerusalem when it was freedom by muslims they was trated better than roman that what i mean it just their is no same way in translating and holy koran is only arabian boob i had hard to translate .

civial war as i think america is making the civial war .

saladin didnt have the idea of peace when jerusalem was taking by the crusaders he asked the peace when he get them off our lands .

i have a point on the fear .   if a normal kid i am not saying fear you as when he sees you as he saw devil no it means that no body attack it cuz he knows he will lose .    the find a place to serve god is mean as jerusalem is was freedom by muslims cuz its the gates of heaven and mohamad gone their in the speed of light and go to see god .

That's true, I read somewhere that one time 10 Templar Knights where captured by the Islam. All 10 where given the choice of either life as an Islam or death right there. One by one, each of them lost thier heads, but they did not give in.

Also on an another note.......isn't like all gods near Europe are the same? Chirstians have one god, Muslims have one god, Jews have one god (not sure with Jews) but either way, 3 relegions, 3 ONE Gods......doesn't that say something? Hell maybe IT'S THE SAME GONE.

just God favors the Christians a bit more=P

those templars attacked the pilgrams of muslims going kaiba and the pilgrams said i got the leader name its "arnat" but he said the leader to let your mohamad get you out and kill them .

but i got evidence from chrtions before muslims history people that when jerusalem was been killed when the crusades came  .

look tell me how can a 5 muslims began a war with all the people in mecca how islam would be gone and saladin was after hotin after he capture arnat he treated the king of jerusalem as they said good and kindly and its story that saladin capture them he gave the king water to drink the king drink and pass it to arnat saladin got angried he sweared to kill arnat he got his sword and let him choose again he gave him his chance he didnt want .

and the templars wasnt the same who was killed cuz it was long after saladin won heten but he killed the jerusalem emplars and for information they was nt priests it was only a name .

When Abraham sinned and slept with his servant to have a child; Ishmael was the result. God told Abraham that The decedents of Ishmael(Muslims) would be a problem for Abraham's decedents (the Jews), as a punishment for the sin Abraham committed. Thats where Islam came from, and thats also why they hate each other so much.

That didn't contradict what I said at all you just described it a little more.
And what do you mean
"no you cant say a prophet made a wrong"

So sleeping with someone other than your wife is ok in your religion; just like Abraham who God had told he would give a son through Sarah but he didn't believe God and took matters into his own hands.
I'm not trying to  put down Abe he was one of the most Faithful men in the bible.I'm just telling the facts.

and yea its the same GOD the almighty muslims and chrtions and jews worship ONE GOD and moses and jesus and mohamad came in a message to warship him cuz he is the only GOD creator of everything so that he is the only one gave us merecales and evidences that he is the only and it must be worship by all humans . and i respect if you people who worshiping stones dont talk or move you make it , or nothing .

GOD favor those relegions all not only chrtions . and the favor was worshiping him and pray to him i think he gave those relegions advantges and disadvantges and if you get total of it we are same on one say : WE PRAY TO YOU GOD OF EVERYTHING.

So your just saying Abe had more than one wife, thats also a sin in Gods law. God uses IMPERFECT people to do his will they still sin, but they are very Godly people, and they point to the perfect person that did Gods will, Christ.

So tell me this Mbeidas, back whenever. Pagans thought that whoever won battles and so forth meant thier gods where stronger and so on their side? So if this is true Pagan's Gods have been around since the first relegion started (before christianity and muslim and so forth). Does that mean the Pagan gods where the "real" gods for all those centuries?

Also on a side note, Mbeidas learn to spell for Gods Sake! It's already hard enough to understand your horrible sentence structure, but your spelling is just a killer! Lol, let an english teacher in here and he would go beserk =P

i am arabian but you talk english and i can speak but i cant writes well  mean i can write but things i dont use alot of english i forget it and i am on base to learn all the history of all people i am tryin i know i am not gona do that .

ah ah ah what in hell and seven seas let me say the devil understand my talking and you dont .

ther is nothin named pegan if victory came from somthing it came from GOD for any both fighting even if they dont worship him cuz god will choose who will win from both .

omg oh they won and they said that myth let them won give me proof i am talking in GOD's proofs which is bibel and koran and some old testemnt as reader for the first and want to read the third .

look look the problem that i am translating the arb  meanings cuz i dont have knolidge in alot of english phases so i translate arabia phases .

omg i like to make people laugh and cry .  but laugh when they do good thing and cry when they enter the islam or the chrtion to start a new life and forget the past .

we have a sentence in koran said omg i wil translate but to let you understand

if we fight and if we rise his name up he will rise and give us victory thats why most of the arabs countries are not with GOD so that god dont give victory for us if we rise his name to fight for it as omar bn alhtabsaid:

we win because the enmeies faults not warshiping god if we even them with this fualt the power will be here as if the more and equpments and that thats why lebanon won at 2006 and thats why the egyptions lost on 1967 althought the egyption army only was bigger than the israeli without taking the jordan and strians and lebanon and troops caming from iraq .

you understand that cuz we not unite under the flag of GOD we keep losing but when people like hamas fight for GOD and america knows that hamas can beat it for that reason so they named every man a terorist cuz they are stronger .

even jews have this they also keep wining in this way they made a rebal in past of romans more than 1/4 of roamn army gone only to put rebals down as more than 6 legions as like 36,000 roman only for 5000 not so power but when the jews say oh we can take romans they start to be weak cuz they said no we take them our selves and forgot GOD so GOD forgot as its only meaning GOD dont forget gave it to roamns .

but loyalty and as i said if we even with the fult the power came as in bonitic war between romans and carthage both didnt worship GOD so power came and loyalty of roamns to rome won them the war and carthage losed all as they said a legion had control of all the north africa fighting all rebals .

GOD dont need us but we need GOD .

the proof is that the money taking from soliman temple used to build the colusium .

carthage are phinx and phinx are canan and hanibal mean bal worshiper and bal was god of canans . he was oldest as they say even from rome 6000 year from now oh i am palestine as son of the giants lol.

no hanibal troops wher cavarly he couldnt seige rome well so he fall and royalty of the people of rome and around helped too lol .

God says who be victory and that have reaso0n to make the romans become chrtions later and to make jerusalem after the banner of chrtions to be freedom by muslims in 636 .

tata

Wasn't hannibal the *beep* who lost his elephant calvary in the alps?

Mr. Mbeidas Edit post 7/4/2007 5:12:38 PM

to some people first thing god creat was a pen and ordered him to wright so it wrote the quran . ok i am home i will write the evidence here and then copy paste it in jesus as roman and in universe creation also the great evidence that quran is a book from god  which mean ther is one and he made the universe a thing quran said it will happen and it happened in 7 years later as it said . "the persian emparor attack what is now palestine and syria he took the money from most of churchs and the jews was fighting with him as rebels on the eastern roman empire because they treated them bad . as the koran say in a verse named as "roman verse"  alm * the romans were beaten * in the lowest land and after they are beaten they will beat their enemies  *  in few years , god who have the choise what to happened before and after , and when that happened the faithfull will be happy   *    god is always truly say now this is the subject the , this is your life barny ,sakaal , iwasfrozen , dake and all people on earth its the proof evidence i will translate all now         alm   its alot of words starting in koran when mohamad told us he said god didnt give me the meanings of them so i dont know . the romans were beaten    the romans was beaten by persia and the historical right i looked in internet also the romans were beaten by persia and alot of people said romans will not get palestine and syria back . abu baker after he heared the words from mohamad he said its ight but the people of mecca said its imposible and mohamad is lieing all notice that this meaned they were still in mecca and before the leaving to al madina in 1 year  in the lowest land and after they are beaten they will beat their enemies  this is the coolest thing , if mohamad really invent the koran the lowest land ment   in JERCHO in palestine its the lowest land like 400- low than the sea and historical it says that the final battle between persia and romans to get back palestine was near jericho and they won.  now tell me people only knew that jericho was the lowest land in the 20 sentures how mohamad knew before 1428 or 1427 cuz we said it was 1 year before the leaving . in few years , god who have the choise what to happened before and after , and when that happened the faithfull will be happy . the few is always known as 3 - 9 . romans got palestine back in 7 years and koran said  in few ye*beep*M>, its historical and i cheked all that took me time and i was in my uncle's house that's also took me time . and when that happened the faithfull will be happy . the pretty good thing that abu baker wagered the mecca people on 100 camel (that was before the wager is bad in consider of islam)  it was always bad but islam took the learning little and little as you cant change in a day and night. back the proof the chrtions are not the faithfull will be happy they got back no no the meaning was 1) mohamad and the small bunsh of muslims made their point that koran is right. 2)abu baker won 100 camel but he didnt have them cuz in this 7 years the wager is said to be bad and not good . THIS IS HISTORICAL PROOF THAT KORAN HAD A FUTURE SEEN AND SCINTFIC SEEN MOHAMAD WONT HAVE IT IN HIS AGE AND SURE THAT THER IS GOD i wish all world read this cuz i want to help you thanks for reading mbeidas          i am not gonna die why i am saying this