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Magic Morale
20:23:15 Nov 16th 09 - Lord Wraith:

Casting Anger from ********** upon Noonehome with 78% chance of success... and Successful!
We have managed to make the morale in The Noonehome from Duke Voltaire[Soul] drop by 10%

Ok, so my question is how does Morale affect the army? A Kingdom mate had 99% on the army before, and 99% after... Shouldn't it have gone up with a drop of 10% morale? :\


20:44:49 Nov 16th 09 - Mr. Kobuskan:

If you cast Hapiness a few times, morale will go up above 100% till about 112%(did not see more then that), but the tick after it falls to 100%

Used hapiness a lot while i was playing halfer to boost morale on a high experienced adventurer army, i had the feeling more treasures where found that way.


20:47:54 Nov 16th 09 - Lord Wraith:

I know about Happiness, its Anger thats confusing me... We checked literally 5 minutes from when I cast so he couldn't have used Happiness :\


20:50:40 Nov 16th 09 - Mr. Rijstwafel:

@Kobuskan, i casted happiness a tick ago, i went from 97% to 116%, waited a tick, and still have 116%...



Morale Exp. Located Upkeep
116% 0 on mission  


21:47:56 Nov 16th 09 - Sir Lanoc:

I think it is that when the morale drops below a certain point your troops become weaker. Not sure at all though. And out of curiousity, why did you cast Anger on it when your kd mate had 99% chance on it?


21:48:50 Nov 16th 09 - Lord Wraith:

Because I wanted him to have 100%?


21:49:53 Nov 16th 09 - Sir Lanoc:

Fair enough. Seems a bit excessive to me.


22:00:43 Nov 16th 09 - Lord Wraith:

Not at all. It means less losses and a slaughter, so no resurrected armies coming back for a second beating.
I still don't understand about the morale though :\


22:14:28 Nov 16th 09 - Mr. Knish:

My two cent's worth is that it appears that morale is more important to the attacker, than the defender. I've noticed a real increase in % before attacking when I went from 97 to 100. But noticed very little change when I dropped my opponent's morale with anger.


23:13:56 Nov 16th 09 - Duchess Mama Bear:

not sure but it could be one of two reasons...

there is a rather large difference in power for 99%-100% chance.

2.33 99%

3.0+ 100%

Perhaps the change with 10% moral loss wasn't enough to tip it...

Either that or as someone else suggested maybe the chances aren't affected until a cergain %age drop :P


07:17:43 Nov 18th 09 - Mr. Yes Twamao:

you angered them.  what do you expect?  Of course they got stronger!


23:37:21 Nov 28th 09 - Praetorian Wyzer:

Knish has one very good part of it posted, yet you can also add that lowering the moral of a "defending" army, can also increase the losses to that army, the lower the moral the more losses it will incur.

Mama Bear nailed the rest of it.


11:19:49 Nov 29th 09 - Lord Wraith:

Ok, that made sense.....

Now I have another question about Morale. I cast Anger on an army till the point it had 0 Morale and EitSed before and after tick change.... The troops are still the same... Doesn't low morale make your troops leave or something?
Basically, how does morale affect the army?


17:20:09 Dec 2nd 09 - Sir Binh The General:

i don't think you dropped his morale to 0. I think there is a cap to which you can drop morale to with magic or it doesn't stack, or it's bugged. lol. I tried the same thing yesterday to a MAD army (about 20 cast each dropping from 10% - 18% morale) and nothing happen :P


17:31:18 Dec 2nd 09 - Mr. Tyrgalon:

did you wait a turn to see if some troops dissapeared?


18:01:15 Dec 2nd 09 - Sir Binh The General:

of course :D two turns in fact. I did 10 spell first turn, wait 1 turn, nothing happen did another 10 spells, wait 1 turn, nothing happen. :P


18:07:09 Dec 2nd 09 - Mr. Tyrgalon:

hmm...then its kinda strange that nothing happened lol


19:00:22 Dec 2nd 09 - Sir Mcmax:

Mr. Knish


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22:14:28 Nov 16th 09
My two cent's worth is that it appears that morale is more important to the attacker, than the defender. I've noticed a real increase in % before attacking when I went from 97 to 100. But noticed very little change when I dropped my opponent's morale with anger.

If nothing old have been changed (with or without purpose) only berserks gets a lower OP/DP with the lower morale. It have been so since I started (age 30).

But - big BUT - I (think) I have seen the same with mages, when I cast StG. If the morale on my casting city/army is below something close to 100%, I tend to fail more time..... but that's probably only how I feel it.

So - I must write, that I do not know if this actual is how the game-engine is working. It's just....... my feeling.


20:23:02 Feb 20th 10 - Mr. Briefcase:

I think the reason that so few people see morale change their % of victory, is that there are very few even matchups in vu, and the majority of players have half mu's in their armies.    **No not half orc/hald mu's running around, but I mean half the troops are mu's**     And a % drop in mu morale would not change the % to win,  for either side. And you can't cast 'Anger' while you are prepping w/o losing prep, so you would probably never see it make a difference. The army would have to be prepping you, and have very little magic, but not something that you could beat..


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